Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
schwinn8 said:
Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
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I also use Accubattery, and I add the screenshot as an attachment,
but I don't understand why the battery drains when I use the 3G / 4G connection or the wifi,
by exomple
if I do not deactivate the 4g or the wifi at night I lose 15% to 20% easy, I do not know what to do even when the phone is on us998 it is the same thing
None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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i was on us998 oreo, it was the same thing no diferance it was even worse, that's why I follow part on h933 oreo then pie to see if it's the same thing, but nothing is change
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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Hello
Here I did what you told me, I deleted facebook and I took screenshots for daily use and then I deactivate the dark mode and nothing is the same thing
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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for the images I have hosted them other by it's good
and for the little story, my v30 was on h93120a
I converted it to us99810b then us99820h with the ChazzMatt method, but the battery was not terrible, but I follow it stayed like its about 6 months, well when pie came out I tried to update I blocked on the logo lg then I follow back on h99820h, then I saw that some person converted their us998 to h93330k I did the same thing with the ChazzMatt method through nougat and then pie
by the way that its could improve but nothing, in the end the discharge during the night is better
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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for the brightness it is automatic I do not touch it, and for the SOT I have never exceeded 4:30 (and it is very rare that I am a SOT that exceeds 4 hours) I voice people who say that it s arrives to have 8 hours of SOT "even 9h to 10h" for some, I told myself that my phone had a real problem of autonomy
Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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thank you very much for your help i will try advised calf and return the answer to you
jassim0104 said:
Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
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It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
messi2050 said:
It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
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the problem is that with oreo it was worse than on pie, the battery did not even hold the day, it is for this that I passed pie
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Hello, my first post and android phone. Anyway, I've been looking around and noticed most peoples display only uses around 30% whereas mine uses 66-70% consistently. I have my screen brightness to 10% as well so I'm not sure how that can be. Can anyone shed any light on this? Battery life seems to be alright so far.I've only charged twice so far and second time I'm at about 5 hours in and I'm at 68% battery left. I think the display is killing the battery more than it should be.
Thanks.
Depending on what you do, screen uses more or less battery If you play a game that uses a lot of phone's power, it will take more battery, therefore leading to less percentage usage from the screen.
If your battery life is okay, then you're alright
i think you just havent looked long enough. many many people have their display showing in the list as 60-80% more often than not. and my nexus one also has the display around 75%, each day, every day, for a year. the display is just always the highest.
the only way its low is if you use standby the entire time and dont turn your screen on for more than 2 minutes.
Okay, that sounds about right. It just seems weird. I haven't really had a chance to really do anything except browse the internet and download apps from the market. I haven't even gotten a chance to play any games. The display just doesn't ever seem to go below 60% while I see screenshots of other people's battery usage and they are all 30%. Crazyness I say.
66% ....
The mark of the devil burn it !!!!!!!
Yeah I was wondering about this as well.
I have no idea if this is normal? Running Cognition S2 v1.07.
The battery does run down pretty quickly, but I'm using it quite heavily at the moment as it's new.
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i think you just havent looked long enough. many many people have their display showing in the list as 60-80% more often than not. and my nexus one also has the display around 75%, each day, every day, for a year. the display is just always the highest.
the only way its low is if you use standby the entire time and dont turn your screen on for more than 2 minutes.
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I see I see, okay well that makes me feel better. I just got this phone yesterday morning and I thought something might have been wrong. It came all the way from Hong Kong to Canada!
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I see I see, okay well that makes me feel better. I just got this phone yesterday morning and I thought something might have been wrong. It came all the way from Hong Kong to Canada!
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yeah just give it some time, you will adjust to your new device. i promise it seems very normal so far.
as a test do some over night standby tests and check your numbers in the morning.
It is surely relative to how long the phone has been on and what else has been using power.
66% of a little battery life, isn't as bad as 66% of the whole battery life,
??I think I know what I mean
I have an LG G6 and a V30 on the Verizon network. On both, phone idle is using most of the battery. I've read several posts and searched the net without finding a solution.
I use a Samsung Gear S3 watch. Not sure if that could be the culprit.
When I Googled it, seemed like many others were also experiencing this problem. No one on this board is having this issue? Or has everyone figured out a solution? Thanks..
Why do you feel it is a problem? It doesn't matter unless your total battery life is not good to excellent.
Sounds like you just leave your phone Idle more than anything. I don't see a problem.
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check the battery usage ... find the offending app.
I am seeing the same: I don't use my phone very much, and not for gaming or video or anything very power consuming. So idle is by far the biggest battery drain on my V30 as well. The battery is still great on this phone, and it is quite frugal during use (as opposed to my beloved old Nexus 5, which was frugal when idle, but every touch of the screen would deplete the battery): I only charge the V30 every other night, and usually get 4-5 hours SOT on a full charge.
Battery stats attached. I have disabled most Google features (location reporting, always listen etc) but as you can see, Android Kernel and Android System remain by far the biggest app suckers. Lots of LG services buried in those. Some day I'll try and figure out which ones are the main culprits.
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Either this is a bug from software or this is the way the phone display itself..
As long as it doesn't effect the battery usage, it's not a problem imo
The high idle drain is real, at least on my phone. It is NOT merely an error in how usage is displayed. If I left my phone completely unused, it would run the battery down in about 3 days, with no SOT. Significantly faster if I move it (say, in the car), slower if it's just lying on a desk. But even lying on a desk, it drains pretty fast. Even overnight, when AOD is turned off.
This is fact, not opinion. Of course it could be unique to my phone and the OP's, although a few other threads mention high idle drain as well.
As I wrote in my last post, the phone has a good battery AND a frugal display, which means it's not a problem for most. Indeed, owners who use their phones all the time will appreciate how frugal it is in active use -- although they too would get even more SOT if their idle drain was lower. Obviously it is a bigger problem for owners who use their phones less, and who want to charge it only every two or three days to preserve battery health.
I remain convinced that the drain is caused by some of the LG or T-Mobile services on my phone, which would cause it to be buried under System or Kernel usage in GSAM. I just haven't had time to dig deeper into which ones it may be. If others have suggestions for which apps or services are the culprits, I'll be very interested.
@mankind_18: I am glad to hear that this is not a problem for you.
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The high idle drain is real, at least on my phone. It is NOT merely an error in how usage is displayed. If I left my phone completely unused, it would run the battery down in about 3 days, with no SOT. Significantly faster if I move it (say, in the car), slower if it's just lying on a desk. But even lying on a desk, it drains pretty fast. Even overnight, when AOD is turned off.
This is fact, not opinion. Of course it could be unique to my phone and the OP's, although a few other threads mention high idle drain as well.
As I wrote in my last post, the phone has a good battery AND a frugal display, which means it's not a problem for most. Indeed, owners who use their phones all the time will appreciate how frugal it is in active use -- although they too would get even more SOT if their idle drain was lower. Obviously it is a bigger problem for owners who use their phones less, and who want to charge it only every two or three days to preserve battery health.
I remain convinced that the drain is caused by some of the LG or T-Mobile services on my phone, which would cause it to be buried under System or Kernel usage in GSAM. I just haven't had time to dig deeper into which ones it may be. If others have suggestions for which apps or services are the culprits, I'll be very interested.
@mankind_18: I am glad to hear that this is not a problem for you.
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I'm actually seeing the opposite on my phone. Idle battery drain is minimal, but I feel like it drains a bit faster than others while in use. I did disable a lot of carrier/LG bloat I'm sure it's helped with idle battery usage to a degree.
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I'm actually seeing the opposite on my phone. Idle battery drain is minimal, but I feel like it drains a bit faster than others while in use. I did disable a lot of carrier/LG bloat I'm sure it's helped with idle battery usage to a degree.
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Thank you for sharing this. Good to hear that your idle drain is low after disabling LG/carrier bloat. Makes me hope that if I take the time to go through it on mine, I may see improvement. So far I uninstalled a couple of LG apps through the Settings/Apps menu, that's all. I've meant to do more with ADB, just haven't had the time yet. Your post is encouraging in this regard.
But puzzling that you find active drain so high. My old Nexus 5 was like you describe: Very low idle drain (lean custom ROM and not many Google apps installed), but drained fast whenever I used it. As described, the V30 surprised me by doing the opposite. Hmmm....
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Thank you for sharing this. Good to hear that your idle drain is low after disabling LG/carrier bloat. Makes me hope that if I take the time to go through it on mine, I may see improvement. So far I uninstalled a couple of LG apps through the Settings/Apps menu, that's all. I've meant to do more with ADB, just haven't had the time yet. Your post is encouraging in this regard.
But puzzling that you find active drain so high. My old Nexus 5 was like you describe: Very low idle drain (lean custom ROM and not many Google apps installed), but drained fast whenever I used it. As described, the V30 surprised me by doing the opposite. Hmmm....
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Well it's not excessive relative to other phones I've used, just seems higher than other people based on their battery usage screens posted.
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The high idle drain is real, at least on my phone. It is NOT merely an error in how usage is displayed. If I left my phone completely unused, it would run the battery down in about 3 days, with no SOT. Significantly faster if I move it (say, in the car), slower if it's just lying on a desk. But even lying on a desk, it drains pretty fast. Even overnight, when AOD is turned off.
This is fact, not opinion. Of course it could be unique to my phone and the OP's, although a few other threads mention high idle drain as well.
As I wrote in my last post, the phone has a good battery AND a frugal display, which means it's not a problem for most. Indeed, owners who use their phones all the time will appreciate how frugal it is in active use -- although they too would get even more SOT if their idle drain was lower. Obviously it is a bigger problem for owners who use their phones less, and who want to charge it only every two or three days to preserve battery health.
I remain convinced that the drain is caused by some of the LG or T-Mobile services on my phone, which would cause it to be buried under System or Kernel usage in GSAM. I just haven't had time to dig deeper into which ones it may be. If others have suggestions for which apps or services are the culprits, I'll be very interested.
@mankind_18: I am glad to hear that this is not a problem for you.
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I think it's kind a normal to find idle taking up most battery if you're not using the device (i mean less), because when i compare it to a9 pro, it's the same actually.. when i use it often, screen will take the most battery percentage.. but if i use it less, device idle will be the most at the top..
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The high idle drain is real, at least on my phone. It is NOT merely an error in how usage is displayed. If I left my phone completely unused, it would run the battery down in about 3 days, with no SOT. Significantly faster if I move it (say, in the car), slower if it's just lying on a desk. But even lying on a desk, it drains pretty fast. Even overnight, when AOD is turned off.
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If the phone is flat in 3 days, then your idle drain rate is 1.25%/h. That's elevated.
It should be possible to improve depending on what the causes are. Could be apps, could be apps you need and then there is the network.
As a simple test, charge up your phone before you go to bed. Then leave it there, untouched with AOD off.
In the morning, settings - battery - battery usage - estimated time remaining <-- how much is that ?
Your battery will have to drop to at least 98% before that info is available which in your case could be sooner than morning maybe in a couple of hours
Indeed, owners who use their phones all the time will appreciate how frugal it is in active use -- although they too would get even more SOT if their idle drain was lower. Obviously it is a bigger problem for owners who use their phones less, and who want to charge it only every two or three days to preserve battery health.
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True. After two days you've lost half the battery. Ideally it should be less than that.
I just haven't had time to dig deeper into which ones it may be. If others have suggestions for which apps or services are the culprits, I'll be very interested.
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Do you have access to a PC with adb installed ?
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If the phone is flat in 3 days, then your idle drain rate is 1.25%/h. That's elevated.
It should be possible to improve depending on what the causes are. Could be apps, could be apps you need and then there is the network.
As a simple test, charge up your phone before you go to bed. Then leave it there, untouched with AOD off.
In the morning, settings - battery - battery usage - estimated time remaining <-- how much is that ?
Your battery will have to drop to at least 98% before that info is available which in your case could be sooner than morning maybe in a couple of hours
True. After two days you've lost half the battery. Ideally it should be less than that.
Do you have access to a PC with adb installed ?
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Thank you for the response. That was posted over a month ago, and I finally did get around to disabling (or rather, uninstalling with ADB) a bunch of LG apps and services. Also some T-Mobile apps after switching to AT&T MVNO. That helped a lot, and I am now down to approx 0.5%/hour idle drain. That's overnight, mind you, and I still find it somewhat high considering AOD, Location, Bluetooth, NFC are all off, and the phone is completely still for 8-9 hours.
But I can now generally recharge only every three days, and still get 6-7 hours SOT. I guess that is great for any phone. Sometimes and I have to use Battery Saver to make it that far. It helps a lot to reduce battery drain, both during idle and use, and has no noticeable effect on usability.
Also on the positive side, I haven't had any of the lag issues mentioned by others in various threads after disabling apps. In fact, it is even smoother than before disabling them. I did go a bit too far, as I lost the ability to Google Cast the screen -- strangely, as I didn't touch Google apps or services. Also, I lost LG SmartSettings, which I didn't actually use, but didn't mean to lose either. I kept the SmartSetting app, but apparently one of the LG task related apps I disabled caused it to disappear from Settings. No other issues or functionality losses -- except the ones I wanted to lose.
So I am OK now -- though I still think idle drain is higher on this phone than it should be, even after disabling LG's duplicate and redundant services and turning off known battery draining features (AOD, Location etc).
Edit: Thanks again for your response and offer to help. Re-reading my post, I don't think I fully acknowledged that.
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I finally did get around to disabling (or rather, uninstalling with ADB) a bunch of LG apps and services.
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By adb i was referring to granting a one time permission to the better battery stats app. Will be a good next step if you've not used it yet since you've done a cleanup already.
The dump file will reveal what your phone is up to when you set it down and whether further improvements can be had if feasible.
I am now down to approx 0.5%/hour idle drain. That's overnight, mind you, and I still find it somewhat high considering AOD, Location, Bluetooth, NFC are all off, and the phone is completely still for 8-9 hours.
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How did you measure that rate ? wonder if its possible to reduce it further. Up to you
But I can now generally recharge only every three days, and still get 6-7 hours SOT. I guess that is great for any phone. Sometimes and I have to use Battery Saver to make it that far. It helps a lot to reduce battery drain, both during idle and use, and has no noticeable effect on usability.
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6-7h/SOT is normal for the v30, on wifi or bands 12 & 20 with heavy use.
So I am OK now -- though I still think idle drain is higher on this phone than it should be, even after disabling LG's duplicate and redundant services and turning off known battery draining features (AOD, Location etc).
Edit: Thanks again for your response and offer to help. Re-reading my post, I don't think I fully acknowledged that.
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If you're interested in exploring further with BBS, let me know. It has a strict procedure to follow which i can walk you through
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By adb i was referring to granting a one time permission to the better battery stats app. Will be a good next step if you've not used it yet since you've done a cleanup already.
The dump file will reveal what your phone is up to when you set it down and whether further improvements can be had if feasible.
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I did grant usage stats permission to GSAM. Otherwise it wouldn't have shown the details in those screenshots.
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How did you measure that rate ? 6-7h/SOT is normal for the v30, on wifi or bands 12 & 20 with heavy use. wonder if its possible to reduce it further. Up to you
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GSAM can show stats for various time periods, including custom ones. I generally check it in the morning after it's been lying on my desk or nightstand overnight for 8-9 hours. That's the ultimate Deep Sleep condition.
MY cell radio uses a bit more after switching to AT&T and returning the signal booster that T-Mobile provided me. The booster didn't improve T-Mo weak's reception in my apartment, but it DID provide a stronger signal to the phone, so it doesn't have to work so hard to maintain it.
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If you're interested in exploring further with BBS, let me know. It has a strict procedure to follow which i can walk you through
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I'll take you up on that. I haven't used BBS in years (different phone) so not up-to-date on it at all. I'll follow your procedure, just tell me what to do.
Thanks again. Much appreciate your help!
Edit: I downloaded and installed BBS 2.2.2.0. Holy crab, I can't believe that thread is now 3300+ pages!
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I'll take you up on that. I haven't used BBS in years (different phone) so not up-to-date on it at all. I'll follow your procedure, just tell me what to do.
Thanks again. Much appreciate your help!
Edit: I downloaded and installed BBS 2.2.2.0. Holy crab, I can't believe that thread is now 3300+ pages!
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Good, this will allow you to compare both tools and see which one is more useful.
Now you need to give BBS the permission in ADB as shown here
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pm grant com.asksven.betterbatterystats_xdaedition android.permission.BATTERY_STATS/
That's it. Switch off Developer options.
Then go into BBS-Settings-Advanced- (scroll to the bottom and click System App) and verify it says BATTERY_STATS granted. Cannot proceed further otherwise.
If ok, back out of advanced and tap 'Watchdog' then enable
Next, try a dry run. AOD off. Let the cell be on since that's how you use it and wifi.
What battery level is when you start the idle test matters. Can be anywhere between 50 to 95 but not over or under. More consistent data between those two points.
Let it rest for an hour. Do not touch it during this time. if the phone rings and you answer it then your log is going to get polluted with irrelevant info. It's useless, have to redo the idle test. The not touching it matters a lot.
When time is up, in the app under summary there are a couple of dropdown menus. Select 'Screen Off' instead of 'Boot' for the left and the menu next to it, select 'Screen On' instead of Current. Telling it to print data only during the time screen last switched off and turned back on. Very handy. As you can use your phone before the test and when ready to do the test it doesn't matter where you start within the limits mentioned. Screen off to screen on, That's what watchdog does.
After that, Look for the share button at top and select Dumpfile then Save. The txt file will be saved in emulated/0 so in LG's file manager, Internal storage, scroll down, it should be there by default. file name betterbatterystats- date-time.txt
Post that txt file as an attachment in your next post. Hopefully, on the V30, BBS will record under the sections, partial wakelocks, alarms, network which are required to understand where wakes are coming from. If this part is successful then you can go on to do a real idle test.
There are three key points here,
- idle test done when battery between 50 - 95
- your screen on during the idle test cannot exceed 1 minute. No touching
- getting the correct start and end points meaning you selected screen off to screen on to record in the dump.
Get this down right and you will be ready to do a real idle, test. There is one extra condition now. Test cannot be less than six hours. Can certainly be longer but not less than 6h. This is where the no touch rule starts to grate but that is the minimum time required for any wake locks to make themselves known. Getting the procedure right means you don't waste runs. And you will be doing several as you hone things
A bit rigourous but this is what the creator of BBS and the guys in that 3k+ thread insist you do to get the most out of BBS. They won't look at your dump file otherwise. Redo it they will say
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Good, this will allow you to compare both tools and see which one is more useful.
Now you need to give BBS the permission in ADB as shown here
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pm grant com.asksven.betterbatterystats_xdaedition android.permission.BATTERY_STATS/
That's it. Switch off Developer options.
Then go into BBS-Settings-Advanced- (scroll to the bottom and click System App) and verify it says BATTERY_STATS granted. Cannot proceed further otherwise.
If ok, back out of advanced and tap 'Watchdog' then enable
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Thank you. I'd already granted it permissions (BATTERY_STATS and DUMP). But I cannot install it as System app, since I am not rooted -- which it promptly tells me if I try. I was looking for somewhere to confirm the permission, but didn't find it.
Anyways, I started the Watchdog. I'll be charging it overnight, then do the dry run tomorrow after the battery has dropped below 95%.
Thanks again. This will be interesting!
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Thank you. I'd already granted it permissions (BATTERY_STATS and DUMP). But I cannot install it as System app, since I am not rooted -- which it promptly tells me if I try. I was looking for somewhere to confirm the permission, but didn't find it.
Anyways, I started the Watchdog. I'll be charging it overnight, then do the dry run tomorrow after the battery has dropped below 95%.
Thanks again. This will be interesting!
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Ah, i wasn't clear, install as a system app isn't required, that screen is just to check if the permissions took.
A popup appears saying root is required and disappears after a second or two, if you see the word 'granted' then you're good to go. Fingers crossed the right sections get data
Having purchased the mate 10 pro back in march i was expecting a good 6hrs of SOT. However i have only managed to hit that once in 3 months. I have done multiple factory resets and investigated what was wrong using accubattery with little to no success. In fact i have found something odd. I get better battery life charging to 90% then 100%(how odd right?). From 100 to 20 i get about 3hrs 45mins to 4 hrs of screen on time. I get a similar amount if not more if I charge to 90 and let it drain to 20. ( usually around 4hrs SOT) I have thought about taking back to the carrier and fixing it but i cant be bothered waiting 2 weeks for them to probably not find anything wrong and returning it back. The model is BLA-L09 8.0.0.134(C34). Im gonna try using a different carrier to see if its a carrier problem even though i consistently get full bars of signal. Anyone else get such crap battery life or is it just me. Im hoping future updates like gpu turbo will rectify this problem and improve efficiency. Check my accubattery stats in the link below. Usage is normal web browsing, messnger, fb, youtube. All background apps disabled. Location wifi scanning off.
https://imgur.com/a/SMLodHe
I don't know when or who began the SOT fever, but it's not a very reliable way of measuring battery life across users and devices.
I can squeeze 4h maybe a bit more depending on the day, and people consider it bad, well in my former phone I would be happy if I'd get 3.
But I don't disable any radios, I don't set the screen brightness to the lowest value possible when it's just bearly readable and I don't care about apps running on the background, actually I've every kind of aggressive battery management disabled.
I stream a lot on YT, Netflix and from my cloud drivers, when the screen is of I'm probably still streaming some kind of audio (be it podcast, spotify or YouTube), all this mostly via 4G and connected to Bluetooth headsets.
I have seen a lot of claims that the Kirin 970 isn't as efficient as it's counterpart (SD835 and 845), but haven't found any test backing up this claim, neither have I been able to test it.
What I noticed is that the Mate drains quite a lot of battery on standby compared to other phones, makes me think that the modem isn't very efficient, because the kernel goes through the right cycles of sleep and wake (doze maintenance windows) when in standby.
Having the phone connected to WiFi while on airplane mode improved my battery consumption quite a lot, if your carrier supports vowifi you can try it.
But having a charger that can charge enough of the battery in a bit, I don't even care in saving battery tbh.
7-8h here regularly with most of 4g,ive never seen less than 6h.
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I don't know when or who began the SOT fever, but it's not a very reliable way of measuring battery life across users and devices.
I can squeeze 4h maybe a bit more depending on the day, and people consider it bad, well in my former phone I would be happy if I'd get 3.
But I don't disable any radios, I don't set the screen brightness to the lowest value possible when it's just bearly readable and I don't care about apps running on the background, actually I've every kind of aggressive battery management disabled.
I stream a lot on YT, Netflix and from my cloud drivers, when the screen is of I'm probably still streaming some kind of audio (be it podcast, spotify or YouTube), all this mostly via 4G and connected to Bluetooth headsets.
I have seen a lot of claims that the Kirin 970 isn't as efficient as it's counterpart (SD835 and 845), but haven't found any test backing up this claim, neither have I been able to test it.
What I noticed is that the Mate drains quite a lot of battery on standby compared to other phones, makes me think that the modem isn't very efficient, because the kernel goes through the right cycles of sleep and wake (doze maintenance windows) when in standby.
Having the phone connected to WiFi while on airplane mode improved my battery consumption quite a lot, if your carrier supports vowifi you can try it.
But having a charger that can charge enough of the battery in a bit, I don't even care in saving battery tbh.
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i never used to care about SOT either but upon watching utubers like uravg consumer and Mr mobile and other say they easily last the day with 60-70% remaining makes me annoyed that my mate 10 pro cant do that. Also reading through the battery forums where people are getting 6-8hrs makes me frustrated that i cant similar mileage.
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7-8h here regularly with most of 4g,ive never seen less than 6h.[/QU
do u have accubattery installed? what does the discharge rate say? My discharging speed currently is 529ma and this usually reaches 600. 4000/600=6.5hrs of continue use. Im never gonna get that because theres also standby battery usage.
PS: HOPE that croatia wins tonight!!! ( 1am in australia we always get ****ty broadcast times)
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On average I have 6-7 hours with very intensive use and moderate use of 9 -10 hours, I had never had a phone with which I was carefree of the battery. I have the c432 version. 145
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i never used to care about SOT either but upon watching utubers like uravg consumer and Mr mobile and other say they easily last the day with 60-70% remaining makes me annoyed that my mate 10 pro cant do that. Also reading through the battery forums where people are getting 6-8hrs makes me frustrated that i cant similar mileage.
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Makes you wonder what they (and others) classify as intensive use.
Mr. Mobile also claims that he didn't felt let down by the 300ah battery on the G7 thinq, it would last him a busy day till the night.
Well it lasts me from 7am to noon before I'm reaching the lows 30%, depending on the day.
Here is the thing, what someone may consider "intensive use" might just be light use compared to your usage.
Someone that says "oh but I'm playing like more than 1h a day", well this person might have the phone on auto brightness (and the Mate chooses a level that falls loweer than what I would want), several radios turned off and he/she might be playing a not so gpu and cpu intensive game, in the mean while if I'm streaming 1h of youtube I know the hit on the battery will be dramatic, 4G radio and BT always on, screen on a higher than average brightness and I might even be doing something else on the phone (either using PiP or dual-window).
Unless there is an app crashing you battery, something that's easy to spot, it might just be that your usage is just more demanding that others.
The only variable that you don't have a control is indeed the network coverage, the leaser the coverage the more battery your phone will use, and if your network is based on lower frequency bands, your phone might be working a bit higher indeed to talk to the tower.
As for your mention of GPUturbo, it will automatically oberclock the gpu when in a demanding game, I'll suppose it might have a slightly negative impact on the battery, but it doesn't need to be this way, and if it is, you'll only notice it while playing a graphics intensive game.
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By all means I'm not trying to discredit those or any other reviewer, but I put my questions mark if the totally unscientific "in my use" measuring should be the only kind of information we get from them.
This will sound pretty familiar to anyone who watched any phone review: "in my use with browsing, some calls, music stream and emailing I get X hours of use"
And I'm like okay, but how many minutes of calls? Over what network (wifi, 4g, 3g...), Speakerphone, regular call or wired headsets, what Browser and how long, screen brightness, etc etc etc ..
Even if you try to be consistent it's difficult, I know for a fact that in winter I get more battery life out of my phones due the simple reason that the days are shorter and darker in general.
If you are testing a Key2 you'd be expending less time playing games or watching content, just because the form factor pushes you off doing those tasks.
I think those reviewers should move towards more consistent testing found in more classic reviews, providing a consistent environment for testing, like measuring the phones brightness to test how much battery something like X time of video playback takes. There are even automated tests that you could run a few you'll get a score at the end.
I'm not really sure why y'all get such bad battery life, I have all my apps set to manual monitoring none automatically launch unless I tell them to it only certain ones they running in the background. I don't need every notification every second, so that definitely helps GPS is turned off, Bluetooth always on connected to my Android Wear, Spotify three to five hours per day average over Bluetooth, PBA bowling for about an hour a day, camera wanted to pictures a day if I'm in the mood to take pictures of my car, and regular everything else phone calls texts checking Instagram Snapchat Etc
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do u have accubattery installed? what does the discharge rate say? My discharging speed currently is 529ma and this usually reaches 600. 4000/600=6.5hrs of continue use. Im never gonna get that because theres also standby battery usage.
PS: HOPE that croatia wins tonight!!! ( 1am in australia we always get ****ty broadcast times)
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NO i don't,don't have need for that. I just look at battery stats in settings occasionally.
Working days,house-caffe bar-office and vice versa,4G/WiFi,auto brightness,3 emails sync,twitter,whatsapp,viber,LINE,Vikings(battery hog game). Around 8h of sot. Give or take 30min.
Working days,traveling,4G only.weaker signal,all other the same....6-7h of SOT.
Weekends home WiFi....playing games and lurking on twitter. 9/10h of SOT.
Bummer for the game
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NO i don't,don't have need for that. I just look at battery stats in settings occasionally.
Working days,house-caffe bar-office and vice versa,4G/WiFi,auto brightness,3 emails sync,twitter,whatsapp,viber,LINE,Vikings(battery hog game). Around 8h of sot. Give or take 30min.
Working days,traveling,4G only.weaker signal,all other the same....6-7h of SOT.
Weekends home WiFi....playing games and lurking on twitter. 9/10h of SOT.
Bummer for the game
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What percentage of the battery does your screen and phone idle take up under hardware?
There's a battery thread in this subforum i believe I've put all my screens there
First of all: you are a victim of your own mind. I study behavioral economics atm and one big implication is that a lot of judgments are based on a reference point that is initially set when you first receive information about something. You watching all these ridiculous "reviews" anchored the magic 8h sot in your head. now you will always compare your numbers to that. or other high numbers. and be disappointed. huawei did not understand yet that it is not enough to make a quick sale by exaggerating specs but long term customer satisfaction.
I only get like 4-5h of sot too (in a period of 24h). I think its great coming from an s8+. The iphone 7 of my gf gets like 1.5h sot in 8h usage lol
I think you should not focus on numbers. battery is dependent on too many factors. (your screenshots about charging to 100 or 90% are pretty useless). rather should you think about "is it enough for what i need it every day?".
i play pubg mobile on max brightness quite a bit lately some arcades mostly, full matches on my ipad (20-40min/day), watch some youtube but i dont have any social media apps besides twitter installed, though i use instagram in chrome. i have a garmin watch aswell. What i am trying to say: doesnt matter what times others get, there are 1000 variables influencing battery life it is simply impossible to pin it down to one number. i have my pattern of usage and its not changing so much only sometimes there are spikes, so all i care about it "will it get me through a normal day, preferably with a little buffer?". if you cannot manage your daily life with one battery charge you should think about a powerbank (there is a huawei with supercharge). because there is no other phone better than huawei atm. its simple as that. 4000mah is the most you get in a flagship, some others reach same usage numbers but in the end no one is notably better than huawei.
I am happy with my 4h-5h sot in 24h because i dont need more. in fact most of the time i only have like 3h sot after 24h and still have 25-30% when i charge. i think our batterie life is pretty similar tbh if i use my phone more i get more sot. i think i could get 8h sot in 10h of usage with youtube or netflix but over a period of 55h i once had almost 2h sot with flight mode at night. i am happy with that.(wth are you guys doing with 8h sot in one day lol do you work?.)
when i go out spontaneously for example i experience the need for a bigger battery but it is only sometimes. for that i enojy supercharge. while all my friends have dead batterys i am still on 40% cause my phone charged from 25-75 during the 20min i showered before going out. all others only manage to charge theirs from 15-35 RIP
With my Mate 10 Pro i get 9h SOT.
if anything, this device is far too stringent with preserving battery life.
if you are having this issue, then the issue is with you and not the device. you won't find better battery efficiency than EMUI
First off disable chrome
I can get 11-13h onscreen easy with my setting. My battery accu check 102% omg
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First off disable chrome
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what browser do you recommend? i have tried kiwi but it sucks just as much. (i mean it is like 95% chrome)
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what browser do you recommend? i have tried kiwi but it sucks just as much. (i mean it is like 95% chrome)
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i use firefox, because i have synced passwords and tabs and everything
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i use firefox, because i have synced passwords and tabs and everything
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so can you post your power consumption?
for 1h usage of kiwi or chrome it draines 1200mah according to my stats.
generally what i notice is that for it always displays hardware around 25-30% and software around 70-75%. Most people with 8-10h sot here have something close to 50/50. this means that their apps consume less power relative to the phones hardware. i guess the hardware is less variable compared to software.
https://imgur.com/a/KtyxlaR
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so can you post your power consumption?
for 1h usage of kiwi or chrome it draines 1200mah according to my stats.
generally what i notice is that for it always displays hardware around 25-30% and software around 70-75%. Most people with 8-10h sot here have something close to 50/50. this means that their apps consume less power relative to the phones hardware. i guess the hardware is less variable compared to software.
https://imgur.com/a/KtyxlaR
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most of my power is used by facebook and messenger and bad mobile signal
Hi all,
So I've got a rooted v30 and the battery life is not great, getting about 5 hours screen on time from 100 to 0. I've tried using wakelock but cannot get it to work, keep getting the 'this operation cannot be done' at this time message even after leaving it on for a few days or so. What alternative apps should I use to find out what's causing the drain?
Should say I don't use auto brightness, generally have 0 screen brightness really.
I also get 10% knocked off overnight whilst not using the phone, what prompted me to root the phone was losing 25% over one night once, thankfully that has stopped.
it might be the sim card to blame. i am also having bad battery as long as i am not at home on my wifi, about 5 hours IF i'm lucky, while at home i can even get to 8 damn hours, even while playing games. try using bbs or gsam, and maybe, if you do not urgently need your phone, try supervising it with data on for an hour and then on airplane mode for one hour, and see if there's a difference.
Is this some kind of prank? 5h is bad result? If you have more than 5h means that you not using the phone. Always 3G on, Facebook, messenger, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, chrome. With using everything I'am getting max 4h SOT and about 18-20h out of charger. Where is the magic trick to make a 6-7h SOT??
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Is this some kind of prank? 5h is bad result? If you have more than 5h means that you not using the phone. Always 3G on, Facebook, messenger, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, chrome. With using everything I'am getting max 4h SOT and about 18-20h out of charger. Where is the magic trick to make a 6-7h SOT??
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Well....
ok, could you show me your apk percent used?
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Well....
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Sorry, but 14 hours seems impossible. How did you manage to get this? Could you elaborate what apps do you used and how many hours in that 14h SOT?
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ok, could you show me your apk percent used?
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See top post on that page.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-v30/themes/anxiousv30-magisk-mod-t3865146/page93
Would it be safe to say 4-5hr is general SOT?
Inerent said:
Sorry, but 14 hours seems impossible. How did you manage to get this? Could you elaborate what apps do you used and how many hours in that 14h SOT?
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I get 9+ hours of SOT per charge, and I can get 14+ and have in the recent past, even hit 17.5 hours of SOT at one point (watching some movies). It's not an impossible thing, seriously, but every phone is different and so is every user and how they use their devices.
And... I never use Battery Saver either, go figure.
Here's my 14.75...
My battery life might be worst than the OP
Something going on with Chrome for both of you that are having such horrible drain according to those screenshots. I'd personally say remove Chrome - uninstall it if possible or at least roll it back to the original default version, then clear out the cache on the device/reboot it afterward and then perhaps re-install it to the latest available version. If that doesn't help I'd suspect perhaps the battery itself has seen better days - the V30 has been out for 2+ years now so if you've got one that came from an original production run long ago you might end up having to replace the battery whether you want to or not.
But there is definitely something going on there with respect to Chrome and it's not good. I've been 2-4 hours at a time with Chrome running on my V30 while I looked at Reddit/Tumblr/etc sites, constantly with the display on at 50% brightness where I always have it at home and Flipboard uses way more power on mine than Chrome ever has.
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I get 9+ hours of SOT per charge, and I can get 14+ and have in the recent past, even hit 17.5 hours of SOT at one point (watching some movies). It's not an impossible thing, seriously, but every phone is different and so is every user and how they use their devices.
And... I never use Battery Saver either, go figure.
Here's my 14.75...
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I also get 10h+ with my V50 and moderate usage (30% on lte, 70% on wifi, 1 h calls, and some sms, 30 min video recording and photos, 5-6h YouTube vanced and 3-4 h opera browser. The brightness is auto, let's say 20% of this over 90% and the rest of 80% indoors, with, maybe, 10% and AOD off)
But I have 4000mah battery, better processor - 7nm, and so on. But 17h SOT it seems impossible. Maybe somehow your rooted rom calculates also AOD feature.... ?
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Is this some kind of prank? 5h is bad result? If you have more than 5h means that you not using the phone. Always 3G on, Facebook, messenger, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, chrome. With using everything I'am getting max 4h SOT and about 18-20h out of charger. Where is the magic trick to make a 6-7h SOT??
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i used to get 10 hours of SoT when i frist got the V30. At my current job, there is no signal yet im still clocking 5+ hours usually almost 7 hours when not at work.
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I also get 10h+ with my V50 and moderate usage (30% on lte, 70% on wifi, 1 h calls, and some sms, 30 min video recording and photos, 5-6h YouTube vanced and 3-4 h opera browser. The brightness is auto, let's say 20% of this over 90% and the rest of 80% indoors, with, maybe, 10% and AOD off)
But I have 4000mah battery, better processor - 7nm, and so on. But 17h SOT it seems impossible. Maybe somehow your rooted rom calculates also AOD feature.... ?
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I don't use AOD, it's kinda pointless to me overall - and I'm someone that used to use that feature on a Motorola Moto X which was the first phone to ever have that feature but Motorola is still the only one that really did it right IMO.
I don't use auto-brightness; that's just another thing that can sap up some power for no really good purpose. I leave my V30 at 50% brightness unless I go outside where I typically use 75-90% and never more, I never use 100% brightness and nobody ever really should on any OLED tech displays but that's just a personal preference I suppose. When watching videos I set the brightness to 75% - that 17.5 hour run I had was when I spent time in a hospital where my Wife was undergoing surgery and I had nothing better to do so I watched a lot of videos most of the day into the night, probably 12+ hours of movies/TV shows, etc. The AC plug on the wall in her hospital room was too far away (I just had a 3 foot USB cable with me) so I just let the damned phone run down save for a ~20 minute period (slow charging) where I plugged in with an external battery pack so did influence the run time just a bit (probably added 2 hours overall).
And again, I never use Battery Saver. I don't need it so I never bother enabling it even when the V30 tells me the battery is down low and I should.
Wi-Fi pretty much always unless I'm out and about in town for something which is when I use the T-Mobile service I have, 50% brightness always except in some situations, nothing really running in the background, I don't do social media crap like Facebook or Whatsapp, Twitter, etc. Don't use Bluetooth for much of anything - I do have a Bluetooth speaker at home but most of the time I'm using my laptop at home so I have my headphones on.
Dark themes on as many apps as possible and I'm using the Dark G7 theme from the Play Market that many of us use. I also have no intentions of using Android 9 Pie either, Oreo is damned near perfect on my V30 and I'm not even interested in ruining how well everything works right now.
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Dark themes on as many apps as possible and I'm using the Dark G7 theme from the Play Market that many of us use. I also have no intentions of using Android 9 Pie either, Oreo is damned near perfect on my V30 and I'm not even interested in ruining how well everything works right now.
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what version of oreo are you at? im getting some worse battery on pie with my V300L (korean)so i was thinking of going back to oreo since the only positive thing on pie was that manual rotation control. best i could reach on pie was 7 hrs and then i could never do it again even with light usage.
Uhmmm... Oreo is Android 8, and the last update for mine was the 20h build (since it's a converted H931 to a US998).
br0adband said:
I don't use AOD, it's kinda pointless to me overall - and I'm someone that used to use that feature on a Motorola Moto X which was the first phone to ever have that feature but Motorola is still the only one that really did it right IMO.
I don't use auto-brightness; that's just another thing that can sap up some power for no really good purpose. I leave my V30 at 50% brightness unless I go outside where I typically use 75-90% and never more, I never use 100% brightness and nobody ever really should on any OLED tech displays but that's just a personal preference I suppose. When watching videos I set the brightness to 75% - that 17.5 hour run I had was when I spent time in a hospital where my Wife was undergoing surgery and I had nothing better to do so I watched a lot of videos most of the day into the night, probably 12+ hours of movies/TV shows, etc. The AC plug on the wall in her hospital room was too far away (I just had a 3 foot USB cable with me) so I just let the damned phone run down save for a ~20 minute period (slow charging) where I plugged in with an external battery pack so did influence the run time just a bit (probably added 2 hours overall).
And again, I never use Battery Saver. I don't need it so I never bother enabling it even when the V30 tells me the battery is down low and I should.
Wi-Fi pretty much always unless I'm out and about in town for something which is when I use the T-Mobile service I have, 50% brightness always except in some situations, nothing really running in the background, I don't do social media crap like Facebook or Whatsapp, Twitter, etc. Don't use Bluetooth for much of anything - I do have a Bluetooth speaker at home but most of the time I'm using my laptop at home so I have my headphones on.
Dark themes on as many apps as possible and I'm using the Dark G7 theme from the Play Market that many of us use. I also have no intentions of using Android 9 Pie either, Oreo is damned near perfect on my V30 and I'm not even interested in ruining how well everything works right now.
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May i know the link to Dark G7 theme?
kventura said:
May i know the link to Dark G7 theme?
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Apparently the developer of that theme - which was free - has now changed it and it might not work on the V30 with Oreo as it did (and does) for me and they're charging for it too:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lge.wsdeveloper.g7.dark
There might be another one, I don't know, guess I'll have to back up the APK I have for the older version since it can't be downloaded from the Play Store any longer. This one might work (same developer) but again they're charging for it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lge.wsdeveloper.g7.outray
Achmed007 said:
Is this some kind of prank? 5h is bad result? If you have more than 5h means that you not using the phone. Always 3G on, Facebook, messenger, Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, chrome. With using everything I'am getting max 4h SOT and about 18-20h out of charger. Where is the magic trick to make a 6-7h SOT??
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Lol I agree. I used to get around 5h SOT on earlier builds of Havoc, which is honestly the best I could ever get, but now I get average 3h SOT on Havoc. I can't even comprehend how people could get even more than that.
Like, no offense to anyone who is getting way more than 5h, but that is just impossible without sacrificing core apps such as Google, Chrome, or play services.
But then again, maybe every V30 was made different. Some people are probably lucky and have maintained a perfectly healthy battery (while mines is already down to 89%).
br0adband said:
Apparently the developer of that theme - which was free - has now changed it and it might not work on the V30 with Oreo as it did (and does) for me and they're charging for it too:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lge.wsdeveloper.g7.dark
There might be another one, I don't know, guess I'll have to back up the APK I have for the older version since it can't be downloaded from the Play Store any longer. This one might work (same developer) but again they're charging for it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lge.wsdeveloper.g7.outray
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thanks for replying
i downloaded this one: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lge.wsdeveloper.g7black
from the same developer...it looks good.
Good morning good evening and good night everyone,
As the title says, I'm looking for any recent kernels for an s9+ with solid battery life improvement, with the current stock android 10 ROM I get 4 to 5 hours of SOT with medium work load.
I've looked into the kernels and roms available on the boards but I need a solid recommendation, preferably from experience.
Thanks in advance
Glidion said:
Good morning good evening and good night everyone,
As the title says, I'm looking for any recent kernels for an s9+ with solid battery life improvement, with the current stock android 10 ROM I get 4 to 5 hours of SOT with medium work load.
I've looked into the kernels and roms available on the boards but I need a solid recommendation, preferably from experience.
Thanks in advance
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People should change their behavior not kernels I mean i do agree that any custom kernel, rom always gives better battery life, BUT end user is the cause of bad battery life, i often notice people have turned on EVERYTHING they can, NFC, Bluetooth, Wifi, Data... why???? if you have wifi-turn off data, if you ave data turn off wifi. If you don't have anything connected to Bluetooht-turn it off. Lower your screen brightness, many people use SUCH A HIGH brightness it burns their retinas. With Every phone i had last 5 years i need to charge battery every 3rd, sometimes 4th day. But i dont live in phone. I do have computer, phone is phone not replacement for computer. My words may sound like nonsense for nolifers who lives in phones (facebook, instagram and so on), but that's truth.
So to answer your question - ANY custom rom with custom kernel will be better then stock. Also make sure your resolution is fullHD not maximum, that helps too, and try lowering brightness even tiny bit. screen is biggest power consumption (if not gaming, but people use consoles for gaming)
afigienas said:
People should change their behavior not kernels I mean i do agree that any custom kernel, rom always gives better battery life, BUT end user is the cause of bad battery life, i often notice people have turned on EVERYTHING they can, NFC, Bluetooth, Wifi, Data... why???? if you have wifi-turn off data, if you ave data turn off wifi. If you don't have anything connected to Bluetooht-turn it off. Lower your screen brightness, many people use SUCH A HIGH brightness it burns their retinas. With Every phone i had last 5 years i need to charge battery every 3rd, sometimes 4th day. But i dont live in phone. I do have computer, phone is phone not replacement for computer. My words may sound like nonsense for nolifers who lives in phones (facebook, instagram and so on), but that's truth.
So to answer your question - ANY custom rom with custom kernel will be better then stock. Also make sure your resolution is fullHD not maximum, that helps too, and try lowering brightness even tiny bit. screen is biggest power consumption (if not gaming, but people use consoles for gaming)
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I totally expect to drain my battery when I'm on a workload, but there's a discrepancy with my work load and battery usage, sometimes the phone sits idle and it eats 10 to 15% in an hour (no always on display or anything else). I've never been a guy of irresponsible phone usage either, I like to keep track of what my phone is doing and I usually turn off all the extras i'm not using (it's second nature to me to do so just like how you would check if your keys are there every once in a while). I'm not looking for a miracle kernel that saves battery even when i'm using my phone irresponsibly. I'm just looking for a well rounded efficient experience with my phone which doesn't get me through the day.
Thanks a lot for your answer and do you have any specific custom rom names or kernels that you've tested and would suggest, please?