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I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
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dahui9 said:
I figured I'd make this its own thread after speaking with several people with the same problems using a CMOD 5.0.5.3+ rom. This wasn't a problem in lower editions from what I can remember in testing.
Idk but I believe it is something in the kernel affecting this problem with the display hogging my battery. Even after flashing an undervolted kernel I still can only last 24 hours with an extended life battery, vs a weeks time before. And the display problem has been like this in all CMODS test .6 Roms as well so idk if it is in the process of getting fixed or simply overlooked. And other Rome work well but are slower it seams.
The display settings doesn't matter auto or manual its about the same. So devs what can we do to find the change or what can I do to help?
-charlie
Pictures in the morning of drain when I'm at the computer
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I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
rekrapg said:
I'm running test 3 of 5.0.6. Today i read a book with fbreader for around 2hrs on it whilst on the train, had 2 30 minute phone conversations, around 20 texts, a dozen gtalk messages, and played blackjack for about 20 mins. i'm also using pershoots OCUV kernal, and after 11hrs without being plugged in I am at 75% battery. I'm happy with that.
I think it is a work in progress, as each new build comes out it's better. His testing builds are just that - testing. None of his release builds I have ever had an issue with either, although maybe my phone ue is a lot less than others I dunno. All i can say is i've never been tempted with another rom since early days on my magic phone Cyanogen rocks!
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
popophobia said:
That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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A week? My Nexus couldn't get more than two days or so brand new... Also, what LCD?
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That's awesome. Are you turning the LCD light all the way down?
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Nope, I have it on auto-detect, so quite bright when on the train and outdoors. I have setCPU (market, paid) running and set battery profiles - although I haven't hit them yet. I have it set to max 1.1ghz 100% to 50%, 998mhz from 50% to 40%, 776mhz from 40% to 30%, and under 30% to 500 and something.
I do use an app called autostarts (market, paid) and have set everything but system services/apps to not run on any kind of state change or startup. I use Advanced Task Killer to kill apps as soon as I finish with them.
But i've had all these for ages, I just think a big improvement on the last release test 3
Nandroid your existing and try out test3.
I've been experiencing the same symptoms with my battery usage generally dominated by the display. I'm using a UV kernel currently (intersectravens) so we will see if the same happens.
KingKlicks's DESIRE rom doesnt have the same problem it seems and the battery usage is much better.
Wondering if there is a underlying issue.
after .6 test 3 the battery has improved decently, still the display is hogging battery life more so than in the sense rom
Same thing here... Display totally kills the battery with CM5.0.5.3 and OC/UV kernel. Phone rarely lasts over a day with moderate to low usage...
Without usage I can barely get a days use :s
I get the impression that its not the display. I can have 50% display usage, sleep my phone while playing a MP3 and then have more than 50% usage... suggesting that its either he display+something in one category , or there is a bug.
The stock ROM always showed display at the highest usage also. I'm not saying that there isn't an issue, but remember that those numbers are all relative.
I'll say this: I charge nightly to prevent my battery "deep cycling"....That being said I un-plug at 8am and plug-in at about 11p-12a, I use my phone a TON.....usually when I plug in I have about 45-55%.....Not bad at all.....
I originally thought display being the main battery hog was a bad thing.....Then I thought about it a bit......
Would you rather the "system" use more batt? Cell Stand by?
Display (by all rights) should use most battery. More usage=Less time with a fully charged battery.....
Im using CM 5.0.5.3 and I switched Roms after using the stock for 3 months. As soon as I moved to CM I immediatly noticed the battery life was lower than before. I hope you find an issue to this problem ASAP.......I love your ROMs CM, but I love my battery life even more
Good luck with this !!
"display" = gpu acceleration and actual amoled power
Something else i just noticed, very odd. I had 41% display and 23% spotify.... i had been playing for music for a while (offline only). When i quit the spotify app... the entry from the battery usage vanished and display took a spike to 65% ish... really odd. Almost display is showing usage for a group of things.
What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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What? How ? I get 6 hours maybe 7 if I'm lucky out of my battery.... even b4 my nexus was rooted ... how r u guys gettin 24
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Ignore any figures people quote - battery life is always relative. One persons 'usual' usage is different than yours. A friend of mine brings his N1 to works and it sits on his desk syncing email - he gets 1 full day.
I bring mine, sync 2 accounts, play a lot of podcasts, have a RSS syncer going and use twitter and FB loads, i get a LOT less.
Dont worry to much, your usage figures are pretty normal depending on your usage patterns.
They say your mileage may vary for a reason
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My Battery life has always sucked. Maybe I should buy a new Battery?
If I take my phone off the charger at 7:30, and don't plug it in all day, then I will be at about 30% or less by the time I get home at around 5:30. Unless I don't use it. But I use my phone to play stream music pretty much all day. Or at least 4 hours. One day I forgot my USB cable and I was below 20% by 3:00.
It is still better than iSuck, I mean iPhone, and worse than a BlackBerry. I have electricity everywhere though, a car charger, and an extra battery is like 25$?
So what is the big deal? You have the equivalent of a desktop computer from like 2002 in your pocked running off of a batter the size of a credit card, how long do you really want the thing to last anyway?
I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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maybe try out BetterBatteryStats, duuno but maybe this could help?!
cheers and good luck!
Try Hydrogen-ICS latest version, it seems to be "the rom" today
Battery life is very good and its overall a stable system.
Make sure to "Fix Permission" after first start, reboot recovery and do it.
Also sometimes "to much junk" in your SD card can cause battery drain, copy your files and format the SD card, you might see some diffrence. (i did)
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I know this question has been asked really lots of times, but I didn't seem to find cases similar to mine.
there doesn't seem to be any wakelock (except 2 which is incredibly short) and it was in deep sleep mode all the time. but yet, it drains almost 5% per hour which i find is really too much...
I've tried lots of firmware (litening, wamanlite, turkbey, stock, ICS) and removed all the unnecessary bloatware to reduce wakelocks to a state as shown in attachment. but still, they do not have any results, still get less than 1 day life without any usage at all...
Could this be hardware problem? I find it gets hot really fast even when i'm just facebooking.
Or is there anything else can i try to do? this device really started to disappoint me ever since the battery life looks like this.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
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you got 20Hrs out of your phone? grats! as of lately i've been trying alot of different roms and different customization settings from kernel tweeks to CPU tweeks (undervolting/underclocking) and im even turning off every extra setting that consumes battery power apart from wifi
on best with a 2000Mah battery i get 13 hrs on standby and 4 hrs if im playing a game - these days my phone doesnt charge anymore - it discharges even when plugged in
I recommend downloading HydrogenICS, it's good! Download Battery drain, so you can see how fast your battery is being drained.. Also, let your battery go down to 5% then charge your phone
Something is seriously wrong - you've hardly used it, looking at those graphs.
I'd try a stock anything, and if you get similar drainage send it in for repair/buy a new battery.
this is'nt normal , in sleep mode i can get 20 hours and only lose 9%
use hydrogen and neak , and try , if you get the same result so it will be hardware fault
the 3g data it kills the batt very fast,i don think u got a hardware prblm,cause 20hrs an still to go is good ive seen ppl reporting worse...dude instal better batt stat,3g watch dog but remember batt saver apps too run in bckgrnd so i suggest u stay on a stable rom wiv a custum kernel like siyah or neak an watch the batt in better batt stat.....wen i need more juice i switch to airplane mode in nite then rebot in the morning....i don hav any tweaks or uv,oc but ive seen the batt is very good wen i don use the data or wifi or download or update,pm me if any doubt......cheeeerz
You flashed different ROMs the last days? First thing is you should only flash with full battery and after flashing it needs some time (three full battery cycles e.g.) untill the battery works fine for the ROM.
And you may recallibrate your battery. Turn the mobile off and load the battery to full. Then go to CWM and reset your batterystats. Now unload till the mobile goes of and reload to full with mobile off. If you doe this for e.g. 3 times the battery should be recalibrated.
I must say Omegas ICS + Speedmod or Siyahs Kernel. Best ever. Or checkout Paradoxxxs rom very stable but for me not so good xD
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Something is seriously wrong - you've hardly used it, looking at those graphs.
I'd try a stock anything, and if you get similar drainage send it in for repair/buy a new battery.
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yea i know right...i'll try Hydrogen ICS as they everyone recommended and see how it goes first.
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this is'nt normal , in sleep mode i can get 20 hours and only lose 9%
use hydrogen and neak , and try , if you get the same result so it will be hardware fault
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what is "neak"? sorry i am still newbie
rocky23 said:
the 3g data it kills the batt very fast,i don think u got a hardware prblm,cause 20hrs an still to go is good ive seen ppl reporting worse...dude instal better batt stat,3g watch dog but remember batt saver apps too run in bckgrnd so i suggest u stay on a stable rom wiv a custum kernel like siyah or neak an watch the batt in better batt stat.....wen i need more juice i switch to airplane mode in nite then rebot in the morning....i don hav any tweaks or uv,oc but ive seen the batt is very good wen i don use the data or wifi or download or update,pm me if any doubt......cheeeerz
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bro, 20 hours is with 99% deep sleep is seriously wrong. better battery stats cant tell me nothing, since i have no wakelocks or whatever, and all those battery savers apps, they spent more battery than they can save. when those screenshot is taken, i can tell you for sure, bluetooth, gps, 3g, wifi, auto sync etc everything was turned off. even brightness is 10% (which is even lower than auto brightness settings). anyway thanks for the reply
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You flashed different ROMs the last days? First thing is you should only flash with full battery and after flashing it needs some time (three full battery cycles e.g.) untill the battery works fine for the ROM.
And you may recallibrate your battery. Turn the mobile off and load the battery to full. Then go to CWM and reset your batterystats. Now unload till the mobile goes of and reload to full with mobile off. If you doe this for e.g. 3 times the battery should be recalibrated.
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nope, i always try at least 5-6 battery cycles after flashing to see the real graph. and i've read in this forum somewhere, calibrating battery by deleting batterystats is useless for this phone.
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I must say Omegas ICS + Speedmod or Siyahs Kernel. Best ever. Or checkout Paradoxxxs rom very stable but for me not so good xD
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speedmod is a kernel like siyah rite? i've use siyah before, but it doesn't seem like much help. nonetheless, will try them ^^
thanks for all the replies and recommendation, will try different rom & update again (probably in 4-5 days for trying 2 roms
I have exactly same problem. On GB over night(7 hours), battery consumption was around 9%. On ICS more than 20%, but nobody touch phone. I try few roms: wanamlite, omega, bezke, pure. Now i have hydrogen. Better battery stats shows nothing special. Only thing what i can think is wi-fi. if i turn off seams to be better, not that dramatic, but anyway not that good like on GB.
strange...
let me ask this... what does the yellow color in the phone signal mean? anybody got any clue?
shouldn't it be green/gray ?
in my phone whenever i have green/gray in the battery view the bar hardly goes down on idle but i see a big drain compared to green/gray when it becomes yellow even in idle
let me post a pic to clarify...
i was complaining about sudden batt drop on cm9 ics, i know its 2 diff roms but still the yellow bar got my attention in both pics...
just searched google and came up with red= no signal, yellow=very bad signal to no signal, green = good signal/full
bad signal makes the phone look for the signal in a bad way using a lot of the battery...
guess i found out why my batt suddenly dropped so bad compared to the rest of the bar...
id suggest flashing a couple of modems and testing how good of a signal u get with each and sticking with the one that works for u, if its a weak signal from the provider then find a better provider that covers ur place with better reception...
start from there and then if batt life is still bad search search and search... best of luck with ur phone...
@mazroui
in those 7 hours your phone should lost 9 - 10% of battery, but not more than 20 unused, what is process causing that usage?
for me: i charged phone before sleep, when wake up after 7h i had 20% left.
Android OS - 92% , rest for cell standby, phone idle and screen. Wi-fi was setup to sleep when screen is off. Better batery stats show that wi-fi was on for almost whole time
Cell Standby and Phone Idle using that much of your power means that the signal in your area is horrible and the phone is struggling to maintain a decent connection with the towers, this can drain a tremendous amount of battery depending on how bad the signal really is, the yellow bar means it's not optimal but there is a large degree of variation between the top end and bottom end of the yellow bar spectrum. Try a different modem or move your phone to an area with better reception and see if you still get this sort of drain.
Android OS is misreported by practically every Kernel because for some reason Samsung accidentally made Screen On add to the Android OS bar, so your Android OS usage is actually AOS + Screen On, for the most part high AOS usage can be ignored as a source of drain using the phone info battery screen, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Sometimes rogue apps hide their wake locks in another wake lock, for instance if you have facebook or many of the IM programs on your system, they poll their servers a lot causing a kernel wake lock called 'svnet dormancy' (in gb) or 'multipdp' (in ics) this causes a lock of 5s to ensure proper packet transfer, if your app is requesting packets every 4 seconds, then its essentially a permanent wake lock but may not be reported as the app being the source.
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strange...
let me ask this... what does the yellow color in the phone signal mean? anybody got any clue?
shouldn't it be green/gray ?
in my phone whenever i have green/gray in the battery view the bar hardly goes down on idle but i see a big drain compared to green/gray when it becomes yellow even in idle
let me post a pic to clarify...
i was complaining about sudden batt drop on cm9 ics, i know its 2 diff roms but still the yellow bar got my attention in both pics...
just searched google and came up with red= no signal, yellow=very bad signal to no signal, green = good signal/full
bad signal makes the phone look for the signal in a bad way using a lot of the battery...
guess i found out why my batt suddenly dropped so bad compared to the rest of the bar...
id suggest flashing a couple of modems and testing how good of a signal u get with each and sticking with the one that works for u, if its a weak signal from the provider then find a better provider that covers ur place with better reception...
start from there and then if batt life is still bad search search and search... best of luck with ur phone...
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IF yellow means poor signals then strangely iam getting yellow line but the signal bar shows full signals on home screen.
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IF yellow means poor signals then strangely iam getting yellow line but the signal bar shows full signals on home screen.
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There is a defect with Android where good signal strength is mis-reported on this screen as yellow, even if you have 100% signal.
Until you go to About Phone > Status, just once. Then when you go back to this screen, it will start reporting as green if you have good signal.
I've tested this out on my phone, and confirmed it... try it out yourself.
I stopped caring about it, so I just ignore it unless it gets reported as red.
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Cell Standby and Phone Idle using that much of your power means that the signal in your area is horrible and the phone is struggling to maintain a decent connection with the towers, this can drain a tremendous amount of battery depending on how bad the signal really is, the yellow bar means it's not optimal but there is a large degree of variation between the top end and bottom end of the yellow bar spectrum. Try a different modem or move your phone to an area with better reception and see if you still get this sort of drain.
Android OS is misreported by practically every Kernel because for some reason Samsung accidentally made Screen On add to the Android OS bar, so your Android OS usage is actually AOS + Screen On, for the most part high AOS usage can be ignored as a source of drain using the phone info battery screen, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Sometimes rogue apps hide their wake locks in another wake lock, for instance if you have facebook or many of the IM programs on your system, they poll their servers a lot causing a kernel wake lock called 'svnet dormancy' (in gb) or 'multipdp' (in ics) this causes a lock of 5s to ensure proper packet transfer, if your app is requesting packets every 4 seconds, then its essentially a permanent wake lock but may not be reported as the app being the source.
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Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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If you look at the graph in the right pic you can see that the curve is less severe when WiFi is active, while this doesn't prove my point that its a network issue it does increase my suspicion that the issue is mobile data related.
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Signal in my area is far from perfection, but in same location, on GB i had 9% consumed over night, but not 70 %. I turn off GPS, BT, leave only wi-fi and data. And over night when nobody touch phone, screen is off.
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Something is horribly wrong with that. Do a full wipe. If it still does that, reflash your firmware. If it STILL does that, maybe flash to a newer stock ICS firmware? Then as a last resort, you may want to go back to GB.
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If you look at the graph in the right pic you can see that the curve is less severe when WiFi is active, while this doesn't prove my point that its a network issue it does increase my suspicion that the issue is mobile data related.
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This guy may be onto something, actually. First thing you should try is flashing a different modem. THEN do all the stuff I said above.
EDIT: just noticed you're in Oz. Try flashing a T modem. Most Australian users report much better results with both battery and signal after doing this.
So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
Does not sound Normal but display is the largest user of battery( unless one can use the phone with display off
I had as video streaming yesterday for 30+ min from 80% it went to 14%
haven't tried keeping just display on should try that ...test for tomorrow
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So across all roms I have tried the display literally destroys the battery life of my phone. While the screen is off I get fine battery life. But when the screen is on I can watch my percentage decrease about 2-3% every minute so after a half hour of browsing my battery is gone.
I have an extended battery as well but that just prolongs it slightly. The brightness is about half right now. Is this normal?
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I have my brightness set to 15% and it still sucks about half of my battery use. The display is unfortunately nearly unstoppable when it comes to battery drain. HTC and others are like "BIG PHONE DISPLAY!!!1!111!" we're all like "I can haz batteries?"
That description is the best description of our issue.
But an answer to your question, drop you brightness to as low as you can stand it and if possible try to limit the amount of times you wake the display in a day the juice it requires to turn it on is greater than it needs to sustain the screen on.
I would say yes for the most part. We have a fantastic and power hungry display...the price for greatness?
That being said, its not so bad dropped down to 25% or so, and easily viewable, except if you're outside.
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Alright thanks. I just wanted to make sure my phone wasn't experiencing something that is atypical. Other than that I do love this phone and the developers
It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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It's hard to say. With screen on I loose about 1% a minute even with auto-brightness turned off and the screen at around 25%.
There are others on the forum that have made rather amazing battery life claims so it may come down the the individual device.
I have debated about returning mine for a different one to see if I get any better performance.
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I'm not sure I would bother chasing longer battery life with new devices. A lot of those are very optimized use cases -- either all on wifi, all in areas with great signal, or lots of screen on time but they don't mention what brightness. The fact of the matter is the phone has a tiny battery and uses up a lot of power for the display and radios. I get somewhere between 12-16 hours on a stock battery, depending on where I am and how much I use the phone (generally I'm a pretty light user, but I do leave 4G and Bluetooth on all day).
Having purchased the mate 10 pro back in march i was expecting a good 6hrs of SOT. However i have only managed to hit that once in 3 months. I have done multiple factory resets and investigated what was wrong using accubattery with little to no success. In fact i have found something odd. I get better battery life charging to 90% then 100%(how odd right?). From 100 to 20 i get about 3hrs 45mins to 4 hrs of screen on time. I get a similar amount if not more if I charge to 90 and let it drain to 20. ( usually around 4hrs SOT) I have thought about taking back to the carrier and fixing it but i cant be bothered waiting 2 weeks for them to probably not find anything wrong and returning it back. The model is BLA-L09 8.0.0.134(C34). Im gonna try using a different carrier to see if its a carrier problem even though i consistently get full bars of signal. Anyone else get such crap battery life or is it just me. Im hoping future updates like gpu turbo will rectify this problem and improve efficiency. Check my accubattery stats in the link below. Usage is normal web browsing, messnger, fb, youtube. All background apps disabled. Location wifi scanning off.
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I don't know when or who began the SOT fever, but it's not a very reliable way of measuring battery life across users and devices.
I can squeeze 4h maybe a bit more depending on the day, and people consider it bad, well in my former phone I would be happy if I'd get 3.
But I don't disable any radios, I don't set the screen brightness to the lowest value possible when it's just bearly readable and I don't care about apps running on the background, actually I've every kind of aggressive battery management disabled.
I stream a lot on YT, Netflix and from my cloud drivers, when the screen is of I'm probably still streaming some kind of audio (be it podcast, spotify or YouTube), all this mostly via 4G and connected to Bluetooth headsets.
I have seen a lot of claims that the Kirin 970 isn't as efficient as it's counterpart (SD835 and 845), but haven't found any test backing up this claim, neither have I been able to test it.
What I noticed is that the Mate drains quite a lot of battery on standby compared to other phones, makes me think that the modem isn't very efficient, because the kernel goes through the right cycles of sleep and wake (doze maintenance windows) when in standby.
Having the phone connected to WiFi while on airplane mode improved my battery consumption quite a lot, if your carrier supports vowifi you can try it.
But having a charger that can charge enough of the battery in a bit, I don't even care in saving battery tbh.
7-8h here regularly with most of 4g,ive never seen less than 6h.
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I don't know when or who began the SOT fever, but it's not a very reliable way of measuring battery life across users and devices.
I can squeeze 4h maybe a bit more depending on the day, and people consider it bad, well in my former phone I would be happy if I'd get 3.
But I don't disable any radios, I don't set the screen brightness to the lowest value possible when it's just bearly readable and I don't care about apps running on the background, actually I've every kind of aggressive battery management disabled.
I stream a lot on YT, Netflix and from my cloud drivers, when the screen is of I'm probably still streaming some kind of audio (be it podcast, spotify or YouTube), all this mostly via 4G and connected to Bluetooth headsets.
I have seen a lot of claims that the Kirin 970 isn't as efficient as it's counterpart (SD835 and 845), but haven't found any test backing up this claim, neither have I been able to test it.
What I noticed is that the Mate drains quite a lot of battery on standby compared to other phones, makes me think that the modem isn't very efficient, because the kernel goes through the right cycles of sleep and wake (doze maintenance windows) when in standby.
Having the phone connected to WiFi while on airplane mode improved my battery consumption quite a lot, if your carrier supports vowifi you can try it.
But having a charger that can charge enough of the battery in a bit, I don't even care in saving battery tbh.
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i never used to care about SOT either but upon watching utubers like uravg consumer and Mr mobile and other say they easily last the day with 60-70% remaining makes me annoyed that my mate 10 pro cant do that. Also reading through the battery forums where people are getting 6-8hrs makes me frustrated that i cant similar mileage.
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7-8h here regularly with most of 4g,ive never seen less than 6h.[/QU
do u have accubattery installed? what does the discharge rate say? My discharging speed currently is 529ma and this usually reaches 600. 4000/600=6.5hrs of continue use. Im never gonna get that because theres also standby battery usage.
PS: HOPE that croatia wins tonight!!! ( 1am in australia we always get ****ty broadcast times)
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On average I have 6-7 hours with very intensive use and moderate use of 9 -10 hours, I had never had a phone with which I was carefree of the battery. I have the c432 version. 145
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i never used to care about SOT either but upon watching utubers like uravg consumer and Mr mobile and other say they easily last the day with 60-70% remaining makes me annoyed that my mate 10 pro cant do that. Also reading through the battery forums where people are getting 6-8hrs makes me frustrated that i cant similar mileage.
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Makes you wonder what they (and others) classify as intensive use.
Mr. Mobile also claims that he didn't felt let down by the 300ah battery on the G7 thinq, it would last him a busy day till the night.
Well it lasts me from 7am to noon before I'm reaching the lows 30%, depending on the day.
Here is the thing, what someone may consider "intensive use" might just be light use compared to your usage.
Someone that says "oh but I'm playing like more than 1h a day", well this person might have the phone on auto brightness (and the Mate chooses a level that falls loweer than what I would want), several radios turned off and he/she might be playing a not so gpu and cpu intensive game, in the mean while if I'm streaming 1h of youtube I know the hit on the battery will be dramatic, 4G radio and BT always on, screen on a higher than average brightness and I might even be doing something else on the phone (either using PiP or dual-window).
Unless there is an app crashing you battery, something that's easy to spot, it might just be that your usage is just more demanding that others.
The only variable that you don't have a control is indeed the network coverage, the leaser the coverage the more battery your phone will use, and if your network is based on lower frequency bands, your phone might be working a bit higher indeed to talk to the tower.
As for your mention of GPUturbo, it will automatically oberclock the gpu when in a demanding game, I'll suppose it might have a slightly negative impact on the battery, but it doesn't need to be this way, and if it is, you'll only notice it while playing a graphics intensive game.
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By all means I'm not trying to discredit those or any other reviewer, but I put my questions mark if the totally unscientific "in my use" measuring should be the only kind of information we get from them.
This will sound pretty familiar to anyone who watched any phone review: "in my use with browsing, some calls, music stream and emailing I get X hours of use"
And I'm like okay, but how many minutes of calls? Over what network (wifi, 4g, 3g...), Speakerphone, regular call or wired headsets, what Browser and how long, screen brightness, etc etc etc ..
Even if you try to be consistent it's difficult, I know for a fact that in winter I get more battery life out of my phones due the simple reason that the days are shorter and darker in general.
If you are testing a Key2 you'd be expending less time playing games or watching content, just because the form factor pushes you off doing those tasks.
I think those reviewers should move towards more consistent testing found in more classic reviews, providing a consistent environment for testing, like measuring the phones brightness to test how much battery something like X time of video playback takes. There are even automated tests that you could run a few you'll get a score at the end.
I'm not really sure why y'all get such bad battery life, I have all my apps set to manual monitoring none automatically launch unless I tell them to it only certain ones they running in the background. I don't need every notification every second, so that definitely helps GPS is turned off, Bluetooth always on connected to my Android Wear, Spotify three to five hours per day average over Bluetooth, PBA bowling for about an hour a day, camera wanted to pictures a day if I'm in the mood to take pictures of my car, and regular everything else phone calls texts checking Instagram Snapchat Etc
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do u have accubattery installed? what does the discharge rate say? My discharging speed currently is 529ma and this usually reaches 600. 4000/600=6.5hrs of continue use. Im never gonna get that because theres also standby battery usage.
PS: HOPE that croatia wins tonight!!! ( 1am in australia we always get ****ty broadcast times)
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NO i don't,don't have need for that. I just look at battery stats in settings occasionally.
Working days,house-caffe bar-office and vice versa,4G/WiFi,auto brightness,3 emails sync,twitter,whatsapp,viber,LINE,Vikings(battery hog game). Around 8h of sot. Give or take 30min.
Working days,traveling,4G only.weaker signal,all other the same....6-7h of SOT.
Weekends home WiFi....playing games and lurking on twitter. 9/10h of SOT.
Bummer for the game
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NO i don't,don't have need for that. I just look at battery stats in settings occasionally.
Working days,house-caffe bar-office and vice versa,4G/WiFi,auto brightness,3 emails sync,twitter,whatsapp,viber,LINE,Vikings(battery hog game). Around 8h of sot. Give or take 30min.
Working days,traveling,4G only.weaker signal,all other the same....6-7h of SOT.
Weekends home WiFi....playing games and lurking on twitter. 9/10h of SOT.
Bummer for the game
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What percentage of the battery does your screen and phone idle take up under hardware?
There's a battery thread in this subforum i believe I've put all my screens there
First of all: you are a victim of your own mind. I study behavioral economics atm and one big implication is that a lot of judgments are based on a reference point that is initially set when you first receive information about something. You watching all these ridiculous "reviews" anchored the magic 8h sot in your head. now you will always compare your numbers to that. or other high numbers. and be disappointed. huawei did not understand yet that it is not enough to make a quick sale by exaggerating specs but long term customer satisfaction.
I only get like 4-5h of sot too (in a period of 24h). I think its great coming from an s8+. The iphone 7 of my gf gets like 1.5h sot in 8h usage lol
I think you should not focus on numbers. battery is dependent on too many factors. (your screenshots about charging to 100 or 90% are pretty useless). rather should you think about "is it enough for what i need it every day?".
i play pubg mobile on max brightness quite a bit lately some arcades mostly, full matches on my ipad (20-40min/day), watch some youtube but i dont have any social media apps besides twitter installed, though i use instagram in chrome. i have a garmin watch aswell. What i am trying to say: doesnt matter what times others get, there are 1000 variables influencing battery life it is simply impossible to pin it down to one number. i have my pattern of usage and its not changing so much only sometimes there are spikes, so all i care about it "will it get me through a normal day, preferably with a little buffer?". if you cannot manage your daily life with one battery charge you should think about a powerbank (there is a huawei with supercharge). because there is no other phone better than huawei atm. its simple as that. 4000mah is the most you get in a flagship, some others reach same usage numbers but in the end no one is notably better than huawei.
I am happy with my 4h-5h sot in 24h because i dont need more. in fact most of the time i only have like 3h sot after 24h and still have 25-30% when i charge. i think our batterie life is pretty similar tbh if i use my phone more i get more sot. i think i could get 8h sot in 10h of usage with youtube or netflix but over a period of 55h i once had almost 2h sot with flight mode at night. i am happy with that.(wth are you guys doing with 8h sot in one day lol do you work?.)
when i go out spontaneously for example i experience the need for a bigger battery but it is only sometimes. for that i enojy supercharge. while all my friends have dead batterys i am still on 40% cause my phone charged from 25-75 during the 20min i showered before going out. all others only manage to charge theirs from 15-35 RIP
With my Mate 10 Pro i get 9h SOT.
if anything, this device is far too stringent with preserving battery life.
if you are having this issue, then the issue is with you and not the device. you won't find better battery efficiency than EMUI
First off disable chrome
I can get 11-13h onscreen easy with my setting. My battery accu check 102% omg
klemen241 said:
First off disable chrome
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what browser do you recommend? i have tried kiwi but it sucks just as much. (i mean it is like 95% chrome)
0alfred0 said:
what browser do you recommend? i have tried kiwi but it sucks just as much. (i mean it is like 95% chrome)
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i use firefox, because i have synced passwords and tabs and everything
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i use firefox, because i have synced passwords and tabs and everything
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so can you post your power consumption?
for 1h usage of kiwi or chrome it draines 1200mah according to my stats.
generally what i notice is that for it always displays hardware around 25-30% and software around 70-75%. Most people with 8-10h sot here have something close to 50/50. this means that their apps consume less power relative to the phones hardware. i guess the hardware is less variable compared to software.
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so can you post your power consumption?
for 1h usage of kiwi or chrome it draines 1200mah according to my stats.
generally what i notice is that for it always displays hardware around 25-30% and software around 70-75%. Most people with 8-10h sot here have something close to 50/50. this means that their apps consume less power relative to the phones hardware. i guess the hardware is less variable compared to software.
https://imgur.com/a/KtyxlaR
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most of my power is used by facebook and messenger and bad mobile signal
Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
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Take a screenshot of the Battery screen in settings and post it here. This is a good place to start looking for what is draining the battery.
You can also use other apps to see what usage is (I use Accubattery, for example, and it tells me I have an average SOT of 7:39. Keep in mind, this is a calculated average, not a real time... but it gives you an idea. Beyond that, you can see what your usage is. I'm down to 87% after about 4 hours of usage today, and it's telling me that 10% is due to a game I played this morning, which makes sense.
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I also use Accubattery, and I add the screenshot as an attachment,
but I don't understand why the battery drains when I use the 3G / 4G connection or the wifi,
by exomple
if I do not deactivate the 4g or the wifi at night I lose 15% to 20% easy, I do not know what to do even when the phone is on us998 it is the same thing
None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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None of the attachments appear to be working?
I have heard people have issues with Pie. Have you tried going back to Oreo to see how it fares? Be careful to follow instructions when you do this - I have heard there are issues when you do this (ie, you may have to KDZ back to Nougat before going forward to Oreo).
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i was on us998 oreo, it was the same thing no diferance it was even worse, that's why I follow part on h933 oreo then pie to see if it's the same thing, but nothing is change
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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I'm not a French speaker/reader so I'll do my best. Looks like Facebook is taking a large amount - on you 71% battery level, it's taking 10%.
Similarly, on your screen utilization, you have 31%, and you say you have dark mode active (which I don't). So, I'm not sure why you have so much usage.
I would start by removing Facebook and seeing if that helps. Some people just use it a lot, and so you'll have more drain there. My wife used to use it a lot, but I have since switched her to using Metal, which works MUCH better and isn't as much of a privacy risk either. Some apps are just heavy, and Facebook has (historically) been awful... which is why we don't have it on either of our phones.
Next time you run down the battery, show us the app usage in Battery and Accubattery if possible. Also would be good to see the rest of the screen (scroll down) so we can see if there's anything else going on.
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Hello
Here I did what you told me, I deleted facebook and I took screenshots for daily use and then I deactivate the dark mode and nothing is the same thing
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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All those images are locked behind a password. I can request each one, but that would be slow and annoying to do. Please share them publicly or via the other system you used before. then I will be able to see and suggest more if I have any other ideas.
Also, just to go back, you said you're on Pie now. How did you get to this, exactly? I have read of issues with flashing improperly. @ChazzMatt maybe be able to explain better, but this could be the root of the problem. I think you had to go to Nougat first, then flash in a very specific way to Pie. Was this process followed?
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for the images I have hosted them other by it's good
and for the little story, my v30 was on h93120a
I converted it to us99810b then us99820h with the ChazzMatt method, but the battery was not terrible, but I follow it stayed like its about 6 months, well when pie came out I tried to update I blocked on the logo lg then I follow back on h99820h, then I saw that some person converted their us998 to h93330k I did the same thing with the ChazzMatt method through nougat and then pie
by the way that its could improve but nothing, in the end the discharge during the night is better
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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So, just doing some quick math, your battery screen shows about 72% usage with apps you have shown, and you have 15% battery left which totals 87%. There's 13% "missing" but that's not too surprising (I have never found the battery usage to be 100% accurate). That said, it looks like you're just a heavy user? My wife uses her phone hard as well - she has brightness turned relatively bright all the time. In comparison, my phone I leave relatively low (I'm at 26% brightness in my room right now, with automatic adjustment turned on. I'm almost never at full-bright). Neither of us runs dark-mode.
Maybe that's the issue - do you have your brightness high?
Your last screenshot also shows 17% utilization for the cell service, even though it's inactive. That might explain some of the missing 13% from above. It also seems a little high. If you have low signal in your area, I have found this can use a lot of battery too. I see no-bars in your screenshots, and also low-wifi. Both of these can hurt too.
As you can see, I'm guessing at this point... and I don't have many more ideas. But I think you're close to "normal"... just that you're a heavier user and have a bright screen setting?
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for the brightness it is automatic I do not touch it, and for the SOT I have never exceeded 4:30 (and it is very rare that I am a SOT that exceeds 4 hours) I voice people who say that it s arrives to have 8 hours of SOT "even 9h to 10h" for some, I told myself that my phone had a real problem of autonomy
Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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Even if you don't touch the brightness, it does "learn" from what you prefer. So, you should adjust it to your needs. Ideally the less bright the better.
I checked my wife's phone, and she gets an average of about 5 hours on her phone. I think you (and her) just use it a lot and use it with the screen brighter than I do (or other people with high SOT). I do think using dark mode would help you... I should try that with my wife's phone, but she likes what she likes, so she may not want to change it, which is fine too.
In the end, after all this looking, I don't think there is anything wrong with your phone. If you're looking for high SOT, turn down the brightness as low as you can go, and use dark mode. I don't think there is much more you can do. Maybe custom kernels or ROMs can help, but I haven't had luck with that in the past, so I don't bother.
Of course if anyone else ideas, please let us know... I am not an expert!
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thank you very much for your help i will try advised calf and return the answer to you
jassim0104 said:
Hello to all
sorry in advance for my english, I see on all the discussions that all the world is very satisfied with the life of the battery, I would like to understand how you do to have a SOT so high from 6h to 8h, me never exceed 4 hours of SOT, my v30 is a H931 converted to H933 oreo then Pie ,
configuration :
- non-root system
- android stock rom pie
- dark theme
- SRTC deactivates,
-use "YouTube, social networks,
-occasional maps,
-very few games
-4G connection in large part of the time and some wifi
-automatic brightness
the state of my battery is 94% and I have reset or gone through LGup nothing is don't change,
when I activate the 4g or the wifi the battery melts like snow in the sun
Help me
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It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
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It's very simple downgrade to latest oreo i get 6+ sot on oreo and only 4 on pie
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the problem is that with oreo it was worse than on pie, the battery did not even hold the day, it is for this that I passed pie