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I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
cons:
color shift on curve edges, it look abit blue by eye ( when screen is display light tone - white ). This not effect with dark tone color ( It look normal from flat to edges curve )
camera it come with older build compare to mi5s which announce 2 months before mi note 2. Mi note 2 come with imx318 which release since Feb 2016 compere to mi5s come with imx378 which release on Sep 2016. Look at that gap for possible improvement make me feel abit disappoint. ( but it also has a pros from sacrifice **see in Pros**)
It doesn't come with 3D touch (T_T)
LTE bands for non-global version. Why they remove FDD B8. but mi5s have 5 bands include B8
Benchmark Performance for 128/6gb model abit disappoint. It only get around 110k-125k on antutu, 1800SC 3900MC on Geekbench. Compare to other phone with this spec even mi note 64/4gb got higher. You also can see from this link: https://www.kimovil.com/en/best-smartphones-moviles/best-smartphones-antutu-benchmark
( I think this must be a software issue, with this spec it can improve with better ROM and Kernel. Still waiting for it )
Announce on the same day with Mi mix. Which pull down the hype on mi flagship (mi note2). Cause less developer taking eyes on mi note 2 over Mi mix by comparing on both forum.
Price per performance compare to mi5s.
Pros:
Battery 4070 mAh. DAMN!!! this make no wonder using this phone through a day. Daily use, message, phone call, browse, social, take photo, Bluetooth streaming, gaming, watch youtube still get spare juice before go to bed. No need to carry power bank around.
Feeling so good on hand. Its thin with that battery size. The dual curve edge feel premium. Whole Metal build + gorilla glass.
Spec sheet. even though i talk about performance above, But with this spec hardware there is huge gap to improve by software later.
Camera. Sacrifice newer model but what we get is image stabilization @4K and higher Megapixel. wide angle front facing camera.
Sound both on speaker and headphone quite good.
Equip with all kind of connectivity even infrared.
Fast and accurate fingerprint sensor.
Conclusion:
In real world scenario, i didn't feel any lag or slow performance. It still one of the fast/best phone in the market today. Camera is good just dont read the spec sheet. Feel premium on hand. Huge battery capacity more than enough for daily use, plus quick charge. Good sound. fast fingerprint scan. Have to wait abit for custom rom and kernel. Better if you can get global version.
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You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
j321123123 said:
I want to share my opinion pros/cons after use this device for a week. I would frankly say what is good, what is bad.
The unit i have is Xiaomi mi note 2 128gb/6gb non-global version.
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Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
SoreGums said:
Does it play x265/hevc well? (use mx player + custom codec)
This is the thing I'm looking for in my next phone.
test file: http://jell.yfish.us/media/jellyfish-250-mbps-4k-uhd-hevc-10bit.mkv
from http://jell.yfish.us/
My Nvidia Shield TV & Google Pixel C play this with zero effort (both have the Nvidia Tegra X1 chip)
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SD 821 is much more powerful than tegra x1 and yes it plays 10 bit hevc videos. I have Nvidia shield TV too, ja it's good but SD 821 is faster and better.
zmajdk said:
You can't really use these benchmark test for anything serious.
Here's my results:
AnTuTu: 162571
Geekbench 4: 1840 / 4403
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Yes, I saw many 4gb mi note 2 benchmark around 145-160k. With my unit (6gb mi note 2) i expect to see better ram performance but i got even lower than 4gb model. I think with newer rom update could improve ram management on 6gb model.
But as i said on original post that real world use i didnt get any pull down performance.
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
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roosta said:
Do you need to wake the phone to use the fingerprint sensor? Or is it like most phones that can be woken up and unlocked with a fingerprint scan?
RoOSTA
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You have to press to the home/fingerprint sensor to wake and unlock the phone at the same time.
How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless.
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Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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roosta said:
Ihave not read this wrong, as of November, there has been a 128GB/6GB combination of the 5.7" Xiaomi Mi Note 2 with a Global ROM? Or the CN one with litterally 4 or 5 unlocked bands?
So this phone must be woken up for the finger print to work. It doesn't try reading a fingerprint tap on the button and ,must be woken up to work?
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That is correct, but still it's done by one touch, while yu pressing the button the fingerprint scanner is unlocking the locked screen at same time.
Mi note 2 global version is about to be realest but all my Xiaomi mi phones are compatible in my country ( Denmark) so I am not bothered.
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How is the display of the mi note 2? Many reviewers are quite disappointed by the display. I wonder how sharp it is because of 5.7" amoled screen. Pentile matrix and 1080p resolution with that screen size could be a concern for me.
I just can't decide between MI note 2 and oneplus 3t...oneplus is much much cheaper than MI note 2 in 128 GB configuration and I guess it will be available much faster than mi note 2. But I want the edge screen so badly.
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I think the word disappoint for display of mi note 2 is under expectation. Everyone who plan to buy this phone would expect to see gorgeous IPS curve display. But after you get the phone hand on and the color on the edge doesn't seem as expectation so it would be abit disappoint.
As a mi note2 user I would say first impression was abit disappointed for display. The color on curve edge seem abit blue (only on white background) and abit warm tone display (compared to 1+2 i had used before mi note2).
But after using this phone for few days you will get use to color of display. Now i didn't feel any color change on the curve edges (after get used to) but the curve edge of screen still make you feel good on hand. Normally we look directly to screen not to the curve so right now color on the curve doesn't make me feel bad otherwise curve is still curve every time you hold your phone you always feel good on hand.
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Egde functions are only available with a theme called "minote2" and only in lockscreen.
Get it here http://en.miui.com/thread-393072-1-1.html
vavida said:
Thanks for the feedback. I personally don't care about other phones 2k displays (VR is not of relevance for me at all). I'm running the redmi note 3 pro international at the moment and the display is just fantastic. I just don't want a downgrade in display quality for my next phone which will cost about 4x more than the redmi note 3. In general the note 3 pro is already the perfect phone for its price tag (except for camera quality) but I always happened to be one of the enthusiast guys and I'm very curious about the curved screen.
An other thing that bothers me is the battery life. Reviewers speak about 4-5hrs on screen time. On the note 3 you can easily get between at least 7 hrs up to 10 hrs for some ppl. The difference in screen size is just 0.2 inches and the capacity is the same.
So what is the battery life for you guys?
The camera seems to be decent but it seems that pixel and s7/edge still play in their own league tho...
BTW: is anyone using the edge functions on the mi note 2?
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Battery life in my opinion is the best i ever used. It take me pass daily usage with 30%+,- before go to bed.
Yesterday i put phone on airplane mode during 9.30 hours flight. Mi note 2 is handle idle so well.
Note 2 flaishing xiaomi.eu rom
zmajdk said:
Frankly I would say that display is better then any other IPS screen in terms of color reproduction. Brightness is fine but Xiaomi 5s is brighter at max. It is not an issue for me because I keep brightness at 80%, in bright condition. Here's a bad thing I think, the screen changes to bluish tint if you look at it at angle but most noticeable if display is white. When it comes to sharpness it's fine to me but I think many people will say it's not sharp enough because they just happen to know that there are 2k displays on the other phones. They would never guessed what resolution particular displays has by just looking at it. OnePlus 3t it might be better in some aspects but personally it's looking boring to me and I would never consider one for myself. Besides I hate when camera frame is taller/higher than surface as it's case with OnePlus. The other thing you have to put in consideration is MIUI and for now there is no global firmware but I flashed Xiaomi.eu ROM and it's flawless. There are other phones in the same category like Leeco le pro 3 or vivo xplay6. Best regards
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I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
TGUY25 said:
I am a bit new to this. I have new note 2 with unlocked boot loader and would like to flash .eu rom. Do I need to unlock boot loader? If not too much trouble, can you provide directions on what you did to install the .eu rom?
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1. Yes, bootloader must be unlocked and TWRP for Mi note 2 must be flashed at first.
2. There is a guide on xiaomi.eu site how to do it : https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/6-12-29.37056/
Hello,
Today I went to a xiaomi shop in France and the paper near the mi a3 says 1080p screen !!!
So I asked a seller why on internet it's 720p.
He said the screen is 1080p but android display only 720p (because on other models a bug happens with android auto and 1080p. Maybe with an update it will become 1080p)
This is very weird. The screen doesn't look like a 1080p
Do you think this is true ?
And why it's written 1080 !?
(Sorry for my bad English ^^)
they probably messed up the product info paper. the explanation they gave you is ridiculous.
mi a3 = mi cc9e with android one.
Okay thank you for your answer.
I'm thinking maybe originally the mi a3 was supposed to be 1080 and they change it very late in the device creation. so they still have paper with 1080p screen ?
(Btw I bought one hoping the community will be big. My 2013 nexus 5 is pretty old ?)
i was hoping we get a rebranded mi cc9 (non e) too. not getting an a3 as it stands.
Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
dantir said:
Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
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if you can see the pixels that's bad. the excuse for better battery is just wrong. the 4k battery would easily survive a full day on a 1080p display too. and if they had used the cc9 that has a better graphics for games. no, this is just a bad move from xiaomi, no point to sugar coat it. they should have used the cc9 even if it brought the price over 300-350 or at least upgraded the screen. it still would have been a very good value device. as it is... it's a missed opportunity!
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Actually the 720p screen is not that bad (okay we can see the pixels) the battery life is suppose to be better and games are running better
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I have a Xiaomi Mi A3, the information you can see the screen pixels are wrong, it is not possible to see the screen pixels since unlike the IPS screen, in AMOLED screen this is not possible. You will not notice so much the difference between an AMOLED screen and an IPS screen. The only difference I noticed is that on Full HD the screen is sharper, but the difference is not that big. If you want to buy, you need not worry about it.
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if you can see the pixels that's bad. the excuse for better battery is just wrong. the 4k battery would easily survive a full day on a 1080p display too. and if they had used the cc9 that has a better graphics for games. no, this is just a bad move from xiaomi, no point to sugar coat it. they should have used the cc9 even if it brought the price over 300-350 or at least upgraded the screen. it still would have been a very good value device. as it is... it's a missed opportunity!
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Yes you are right :/ that's sad. But I okay with it :/
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I have a Xiaomi Mi A3, the information you can see the screen pixels are wrong, it is not possible to see the screen pixels since unlike the IPS screen, in AMOLED screen this is not possible. You will not notice so much the difference between an AMOLED screen and an IPS screen. The only difference I noticed is that on Full HD the screen is sharper, but the difference is not that big. If you want to buy, you need not worry about it.
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Actually I see the red on the top of white things and a bit of green on the bottom :/ The pixels are arranged diagonally.
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Yes you are right :/ that's sad. But I okay with it :/
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you shouldn't be "OK" with it. in 2019 you should be able to pick the features/things that you want on a phone instead of having to live with bad decisions from xiaomi. we are not sheep having to buy any turd they put out. there are many more manufcturers and many more phone models. if you have any second thoughts about the phone, return it, get your money back and pick something else. it's a free economy, you dont like something, pick something else. the market will bend xiaomi and not the other way around.
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you shouldn't be "OK" with it. in 2019 you should be able to pick the features/things that you want on a phone instead of having to live with bad decisions from xiaomi. we are not sheep having to buy any turd they put out. there are many more manufcturers and many more phone models. if you have any second thoughts about the phone, return it, get your money back and pick something else. it's a free economy, you dont like something, pick something else. the market will bend xiaomi and not the other way around.
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I can't find any other phone with low sar and big dev community (I hope it will be big at least the sources are aviable)
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I can't find any other phone with low sar and big dev community (I hope it will be big at least the sources are aviable)
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There are actually more than a few Xiaomi phones that are cheaper or almost as cheap as the Mi A3. I'm not sure where you got your SAR specs for the Mi A3, but I suppose this can be fixed by using earphones, preferably not Bluetooth (since they have their own radiation issues). Myself I normally don't use my phone as a phone but as an ultraportable tablet, so I'm not too concerned about SAR.
I got the sar here : https://www.devicespecifications.com/en/model-sar/51c75175
And also in the store (you can also see the 1080p resolution here) :
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Hello,
Today I went to a xiaomi shop in France and the paper near the mi a3 says 1080p screen !!!
So I asked a seller why on internet it's 720p.
He said the screen is 1080p but android display only 720p (because on other models a bug happens with android auto and 1080p. Maybe with an update it will become 1080p)
This is very weird. The screen doesn't look like a 1080p
Do you think this is true ?
And why it's written 1080 !?
(Sorry for my bad English ^^)
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He is saying the truth cuz as all of you know the iPhone 8 currently my social phone is 720p resolution but when I open youtube for most Android phone with 720 p screen they limit at 720p but my iPhone can max out at 1080p the other one is my brother's Xperia 1 all of you must know that it has 4k display but it is not 4k Everytime.when you game on the Xperia it will compress to 720p also when you are multitasking it switch to 1080p the only time when 4k is applied when you web surfing like YouTube or Instagram and when opening the gallery and camera
It's 720p screen and it's ****, no honest person gonna deny that,, that's just not acceptable in 2019.
Xiaomi is a bad company they are putting an end to the mi A line up in favor to their ****ty miui os,,
I got Mi A2 Lite (FHD) and Mi A3 (HD) - i personally cannot see much difference in everyday normal using. There are options for interface and font size, i was allways using custom ones, so the screen is not a problem for me. Mi biggest problem is navigation buttons missing, but thats different topic.
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I got Mi A2 Lite (FHD) and Mi A3 (HD) - i personally cannot see much difference in everyday normal using. There are options for interface and font size, i was allways using custom ones, so the screen is not a problem for me. Mi biggest problem is navigation buttons missing, but thats different topic.
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Can't see the difference too, actually i'm prefering Mi A3 display against Mi A2.
I'm loving this phone for now, way better than A2 in all aspects, my only complain is same as yours, the navigation buttons missing
https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/08/...d-in-russia-may-launch-soon-as-the-mi-a3-pro/
looks like the a3 pro is finally coming to the rescue
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https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/08/...d-in-russia-may-launch-soon-as-the-mi-a3-pro/
looks like the a3 pro is finally coming to the rescue
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If this is true, big mistake from xiaomi that doesn't announced the entire A3 line at once. Why announces one in July and one in August? This will really frustrated a lot of A3 owners, including me.
fir1996 said:
It's 720p screen and it's ****, no honest person gonna deny that,, that's just not acceptable in 2019.
Xiaomi is a bad company they are putting an end to the mi A line up in favor to their ****ty miui os,,
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I used to think like you, including the bits about how xiaomi is probably trying to make us buy its MIUI products. However, I've since gotten an A3. And I can tell you, the problem is not nearly as bad as everyone made it out to be. It does save battery life, and pixelation is not nearly as noticeable as I thought. I have to look pretty hard to see the difference that the complaint seems moot. Yet OLED is obviously brighter and more vibrant than IPS LCD, and also necessary for the in screen fingerprint sensor. To have all these specifications (OLED, imx586, 4000mah, SD665, sd card, headphone jack, gorilla glass back, etc) at this price point itself is a sincere effort.
You have to check it out yourself before you make your final judgment. I personally am an unlikely convert and I'm loving it. Although I still wouldn't mind having a CC9 a3 pro, I honestly think xiaomi did a really good job with A3, and it's probably a more thoughtfully balanced package if not the best spec'ed in the latest xiaomi lineup, in my opinion.
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I heard from two people at least there's a problem with this phone that it has visible greenish tint on lowest brightness. Is that true. They said it's a widespread problem...
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I heard from two people at least there's a problem with this phone that it has visible greenish tint on lowest brightness. Is that true. They said it's a widespread problem...
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I have not seen that on any brightness setting on my unit. UK model ordered from realme in the EU.
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I heard from two people at least there's a problem with this phone that it has visible greenish tint on lowest brightness. Is that true. They said it's a widespread problem...
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Confirmed. Sent mine back for this reason.
I can confirm this is a problem when display is low brightness. But if Flicker-Free mode is turned on the tint disappears completely. And the colours change just a little bit (only when display is low brightness), and not in a bad way. It makes white more natural. I will keep it.
It's an issue due to how amoled display's lower the brightness
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I can confirm this is a problem when display is low brightness. But if Flicker-Free mode is turned on the tint disappears completely. And the colours change just a little bit (only when display is low brightness), and not in a bad way. It makes white more natural. I will keep it.
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I think I had it turned on and the tint was still there. Cannot check as already sent the phone back
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Kingič said:
I can confirm this is a problem when display is low brightness. But if Flicker-Free mode is turned on the tint disappears completely. And the colours change just a little bit (only when display is low brightness), and not in a bad way. It makes white more natural. I will keep it.
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It's an issue due to how amoled display's lower the brightness
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Other AMOLEDs do not have this issue. It's not normal.
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I think I had it turned on and the tint was still there. Cannot check as already sent the phone back
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Other AMOLEDs do not have this issue. It's not normal.
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Let me correct, other 60Hz amoled do not have this issue.
Rest all high refresh rate have this viz. Rog II, Pixel 4/Xl, 1+7T/pro, etc.
Salut, frère. J'ai une question svp. J'aime ce téléphone avec toutes les recherches que j'ai sur Internet et par le biais de critiques YouTube. Ma question est est-ce que je vais l'acheter? J'aime vraiment ce téléphone. Je prévois de le commander ce soir.
Merci beaucoup !
good minimum brightness
It looks like the minimum brightness is on the same level with my old Moto G4+, which seems to have a minimum brightness of 25 cd/m².
But I can confirm a greenish tint (but I think it's not only in low brightness but in all brightness levels, just less visible with higher brightness). It doesn't make a difference if I activate DC-Dimming ("flicker free low brightness" or so) or not. And it's also visible in cold as well as in warm display color temperature. I use 90 Hz.
Sharma_Ji said:
Let me correct, other 60Hz amoled do not have this issue.
Rest all high refresh rate have this viz. Rog II, Pixel 4/Xl, 1+7T/pro, etc.
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Yes they do... I've personally seen it on 1x S10, 2x S10 plus, 2x note 10 plus, 1x X2 pro, 1x op7t and recently on the galaxy tab 6. I've also seen people say they have it on mi9t pro and iPhone X.
Edit: Believe me this is a wide spread issue among Samsung oleds... I'm not saying every single person has the issue... But I definitely think most do but don't notice or don't know what to look for. There's no way that it's a minority when I've had 2x S10 plus and the X2 pro and my brother 2x note 10 plus aswell as tab 6 and his partner standard s10 and all have a green tint just to different degrees..
Edit: I'd also like to say it's not limited to region or batch... The first S10 plus I had was from Argos UK, the second from eBay and it was a Hong Kong snap dragon version, my brother's note 10 plus both was eBay, his partner standard s10 was if I remember bought from EE when the S10 range first came out.
No Greenish tint on lowest brightness
ngagephone said:
Yes they do... I've personally seen it on 1x S10, 2x S10 plus, 2x note 10 plus, 1x X2 pro, 1x op7t and recently on the galaxy tab 6. I've also seen people say they have it on mi9t pro and iPhone X.
Edit: Believe me this is a wide spread issue among Samsung oleds... I'm not saying every single person has the issue... But I definitely think most do but don't notice or don't know what to look for. There's no way that it's a minority when I've had 2x S10 plus and the X2 pro and my brother 2x note 10 plus aswell as tab 6 and his partner standard s10 and all have a green tint just to different degrees..
Edit: I'd also like to say it's not limited to region or batch... The first S10 plus I had was from Argos UK, the second from eBay and it was a Hong Kong snap dragon version, my brother's note 10 plus both was eBay, his partner standard s10 was if I remember bought from EE when the S10 range first came out.
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So, those who were able to spot green tint, must apply for replacement then.
Well yes if it bothers them enough... Although good look getting a screen without this as my above message it's been on them all... As far as I'm concerned it's probably on most if not all recent Samsung panels... That's not me calling people who say they don't have it a lier... I just don't think they have tested enough... It's slightly different on each panel.
Just to add to this I've seen a mi9t pro tonight with the green tint.
ngagephone said:
Just to add to this I've seen a mi9t pro tonight with the green tint.
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You probably saw it on someones Mi 9T Pro who overclocked screen to 81Hz or 90Hz because on default 60Hz Mi 9T Pro have perfect display. You also said that you saw it on 1x S10, 2x S10 plus, 2x note 10 plus, 1x X2 pro, 1x op7t. Well guess what, I also saw that phones and they have perfect display.
Don't talk bad things about other phones if you have issues on your phone.
X2 Pro is really great phone but most of them have some issues with display because Realme had to cut somewhere to give phone with this specs for very low price so they ordered lowest quality amoled from Samsung.
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You probably saw it on someones Mi 9T Pro who overclocked screen to 81Hz or 90Hz because on default 60Hz Mi 9T Pro have perfect display. You also said that you saw it on 1x S10, 2x S10 plus, 2x note 10 plus, 1x X2 pro, 1x op7t. Well guess what, I also saw that phones and they have perfect display.
Don't talk bad things about other phones if you have issues on your phone.
X2 Pro is really great phone but most of them have some issues with display because Realme had to cut somewhere to give phone with this specs for very low price so they ordered lowest quality amoled from Samsung.
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Everybody's perception of colors and eyesight is different. No need to rant on it.
Well, guess what, some people even find their poco F1's display alright, so....
Micronap said:
You probably saw it on someones Mi 9T Pro who overclocked screen to 81Hz or 90Hz because on default 60Hz Mi 9T Pro have perfect display. You also said that you saw it on 1x S10, 2x S10 plus, 2x note 10 plus, 1x X2 pro, 1x op7t. Well guess what, I also saw that phones and they have perfect display.
Don't talk bad things about other phones if you have issues on your phone.
X2 Pro is really great phone but most of them have some issues with display because Realme had to cut somewhere to give phone with this specs for very low price so they ordered lowest quality amoled from Samsung.
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Don't tell me what I saw or didn't or make out I'm talking rubbish.. the s10 is my brother's partner... The 2 note 10s plus was my brother and the 2x S10 plus was mine... The mi9t pro is also my brother's and he only received it yesterday no screen overclock.
Little update regarding the mi9t pro... My brother got the phone replaced due to heating issues... The new one has less green hue over grey but is still there but this time grey is not uniform and lighter or darker on certain areas and this gets worse when brightness is lower.
This comment is pure speculation.
"Realme had to cut somewhere to give phone with this specs for very low price so they ordered lowest quality amoled from Samsung."
I've attached a photo of my brother's first note 10 plus and I'll have a look later if I can find anymore... He actually posted this on Sam community.
https://ibb.co/Bj0HBzZ
I've attached a good image for others to test... Download the image and double tap in the gallery to expand to full screen... Slowly adjust your brightness while checking the image... This on mine is hard to see any issues unless in a full dark room with no light.
https://ibb.co/wzTfYQP
Does people with the green tint tried the 60Hz mode to see if changed something ? Wanted to buy this phone but if the screen is bad...
titof972 said:
Does people with the green tint tried the 60Hz mode to see if changed something ? Wanted to buy this phone but if the screen is bad...
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Makes a small difference but the 90hz is not the problem... As I said above with the other phones of which most are 60hz.
Edit 17/04
Pixel 4XL, S10 lite, a71, s20s showing to have this aswell... Like I said previously this is a wide spread Samsung panel issue.
Hello. Can the owners of the Redmi Note 9 please inform the display manufacturer of the device? I have a Redmi note 7 with image retention and my unit uses a Tianma display, which seems to be bound for problems of image retention. And even so, Xiaomi/Redmi hasn't given up on this manufacturer still.
If you don't know how to, please use this guide:
https://all-spares.com/en/articles-and-video/how-to-check-the-lcd-vendor-in-xiaomi-smartphones.html
Thank you very much.
mine redmi note 9s global, huaxing panel ft8756
Mine huaxing
My Redmi Note 9S is huaxing
I think the majority of RMN9S sold globally is used huaxing panel
RMN9s Vietnam huaxing panel
https://youtu.be/AG8S6WSjJ-A?t=42
I didn't understand what the guy said (language), but it's clear there is image retention on his unit. Sadly, no hope for better Xiaomi/Redmi LCD panels.
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https://youtu.be/AG8S6WSjJ-A?t=42
I didn't understand what the guy said (language), but it's clear there is image retention on his unit. Sadly, no hope for better Xiaomi/Redmi LCD panels.
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he mentioned two major problem of lcd panel. 1) pixels burning like amoled screens (he shows putting keyboard on for 30 min and it burned on display). 2) Edge bleeding specially near camera cut and whole boarder of phone.
I don't know is true ? somebody please confirm this. (this redmi is indian version shown in youtube video)
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
Umb0 said:
Hello
here's a question for owners of Xiaomi Mi Note 10.
Having made experience with it, and knowing what you know, would you buy a Xiaomi Mi Note 10 today?
I ask because I'm about to change smartphone and I'm leaning towards the Mi Note 10.
Looks a solid pick to me; I especially like the Camera and the presence of OIS.
I don't like the fact that the storage can't be expanded, but I've been living constrained within 32 GB with a Huawei P9 for the last 4 and a half years... don't think it'll be much worse within 128 GB.
Everything else about the Mi Note 10 --> I don't know.
How is the skin? Does it have the features you want? What about bugs?
Does the phone heat during usage? If so, when? My P9 would heat quickly while using the Camera.
Keeping the screen On for a good while (browsing, or a long chat...) would also heat my phone.
What about the AMOLED panel? Anything I should know about it? My P9 got an IPS, I never had OLED tech to play with.
How is the Camera software? The P9's is lovely, letting me choose ISO, shutter speed, EV, AutoFocus mode, white balance...
Does the Mi Note 10 have a professional mode?
What about the software updates? Does Xiaomi make them frequently?
Please share your opinion on this device and tell me why you would buy it again today.
And also why you wouldn't.
Thank you
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I saw you reposted your question somewhere else, so I'm reposting mine answer too
Well, mate. Simple answer to your question would be: probably yes. I'll explain this "probably" bit later
At first, I've been using stock MIUI ROM only for one week. I've instantly applied for unlocking bootloader in order to flash Xiaomi.eu, which is a debloated version of MIUI with some improvements. I think it improves an overall performance a little bit. There are some other custom ROMs available for tucana, based on AOSP, but I prefer to stay with MIUI at the moment.
1) Camera: It's really good, but it could be even better with better SoC In my opinion, it is bit too weak at least for the huge main lens. Sometimes it lags, but it's not absolutely bad though. The pics quality is really good. Especially huge main lens gives bright, clear photos, it shines most in the night/low light scenarios. Even better with GCam. OIS is an excellent addon. Tele lenses are good enough, wide angle as well. Macro lens is only 2mpx and it is useful for me only when I need to take a photo of a very close object (1-2 cm), but quality is rather poor. But surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
Just one thing: main lens isn't very good for macro shots. Because of its size, it can blur edges of the objects. But for landscapes and people it's just perfect.
There is a PRO mode with EV correction, exposure time, focus and white balance manual sliders. You can get additional features like long exposure, cloninig and stickers with a Magisk module (they are present on stock in Mi Note 10 pro).
Overall, I would give 8 out of 10 as for camera experience.
2) Storage: 128GB is more than enough for me. My previous device was Redmi Note 4 with 32GB plus 16BG on SD card and I managed as well. If you keep your device reasonably clean, I dont think there is much to worry. I sync my photos with Google Photos, so I can delete them from storage later. The only minor inconvenience is that when I want to/have to make factory reset (granted, most people dont do it often ), I have to copy files from internal storage to USB rather than keep them on SD card. But I can live with that.
3) Skin: I've always liked MIUI, so I'm satisfied. Stock features are ok, although I always like to customize my device as much as possible, so I root it and use Xposed Framework. But this is mainly matter of personal preferences. MIUI is heavy skin though, so it can explain occasional lags and little worse battery life than you could expect from >5000mAh battery. It's not absolutely bad though, I can easily use the phone more than one day with moderate usage (I don't play games).
I didn't notice much heating during usage, although as I mentioned, I'm not a gamer It heats a bit only when turbo charging, but it's not unusual.
3) AMOLED screen: Perfect for me. Nothing to complain about. Some people doesn't like rounded edges, I don't mind. Quality is excellent. OLED gives inifinite contrast, so black is totally black (because unused pixels are just turned off). Highest brightness is high enought to see everything even in sunlight (this is the biggest advantage over LCD). And you can use Always-on Display - I like this feature a lot.
4) Software: With stock ROM, as far as I know, updates are not that rare, but not very frequent too. The phone just got official Android 11 and since it started with A9, it's probably last major update (but probably will be getting new MIUI longer). I use weekly beta and I have A11 for some time already Actually there is one annoyance with MIUI based on A11: permissions and restrictions. You have to manually grant almost all permissions and with those more sensitive, you have to wait 10 seconds until the system lets you to grant it. It drives me crazy but fortunately, you have to do it only once Generally, MIUI A11 performes just ok.
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
Lord Sithek said:
So, despite those minor shortcomings, I would probably buy this phone again. I had limited budget and it was within my range. But if you can afford, I'd recommend to consider Mi Note 10 Pro. It has more powerful SoC and that can make a difference.
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My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Lord Sithek said:
If you'd like to know something more, I can tell you Cheers!
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Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
Umb0 said:
It's nice of you to share, thanks
(and, sorry for having you chase me on this other thread )
My budget wouldn't quite afford me a Mi Note 10, but I'm willing to shell an extra for this phone.
The Mi Note 10 Pro is far above my limit, instead. Will prices drop once the Mi 11 hits the market?
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I'd happily buy a mid-range should I find one that takes proper photos without a metric ton of postprocessing to mask a cheap sensor. Even some flagships of today leave much to be desired here [...]
If you got recommendations, feel free to tell -in PM if they're OT here-.
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You say that the Mi Note 10 Pro has better SoC over the Mi Note 10, but the two units should be identical save for RAM/Storage GB (6/128 vs. 8/256). Perhaps I misunderstand what you mean?
Yes, I forgot to ask about the fingerprint sensor!
I'm spoiled by the phenomenal one on the Huawei P9.
I'm an EMT and wear non-trasparent lattice gloves most of the time and yet the P9's sensor recognizes my fingerprint without issues. Gloves on, just press on the sensor a tiny bit harder --> it unlocks lightning fast as always.
How good is the Mi Note 10's fingerprint sensor, instead?
As for the software...
I don't make rooting. Bricking an expensive device taugh me a lesson, and I decided to stick to OTA and stock software as much as I can. Should stock MIUI be somewhat heavy, I'll live with it.
But it doesn't hurt to know things in advance, so thank you
Another question:
Is there some kind of Secure Folder in MIUI? I mean an encrypted storage protected by password/fingerprint.
Thank you again.
I'd like to hear more on the Mi Note 10...
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Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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...surprisingly, you can take very good macro pictures with wide angle lens
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Thanks for the tip, that was a revelation!
I've had the Mi Note 10 for just over a year, and I'd buy it again. The stock camera sometimes over-processes/saturates greens in landscapes, but it's not a deal-breaker. The portrait mode can produce some excellent pics. I've occasionally tried Gcam mods, but the stock camera is good enough most of the time.
Lord Sithek said:
Sorry, my bad, you are right - Mi Note 10 and Mi Note 10 Pro have the same chipset. I must remembered it wrong. But another options you might consider are:
1) Mi Note 10 Lite: The same chipset and bit less equiped with cameras than regular Mi Note 10, but as I know from reviews, people praise photos quality as well. There is no 108mpx camera, but I must admit - it's a bit overrated. It consumes much power, but in practice I use the full resolution very rarely. It's not really neccessary in real life. Lite version has 48mpx and it's probably sufficient. And no blurry macros from main lens Amoled screen present as well and the prices should be considerably lower.
2) Mi 10T: If you don't care about Amoled that much (personally I care ). It has high screen refresh rate, so user experience should be really fluent. Supported by powerful chipset. I don't know much about cameras, you would have to watch some reviews. And I don't know about prices...
3) Mi 9T/Mi 9T Pro: I'm not sure they are still available, but they were among the best Xiaomi devices up to date. Mi 9T Pro has more powerful chipset, but is more expensive obvioulsy. Both have Amoled screen, good photo quality, no notch. The latter can be advantage or disadvantage, depending on what do you expect (selfie lens pop up automatically). I was considering Mi 9T seriously until Mi Note 10 appeared
As for Mi Note 10's fingerprint: It's ok. I wouldn't call it phenomenal though. When the screen is active (I mean on lock screen or in the secured app login screen) it works pretty fast. But it's noticeably slower on Always-on Display - I have to hold my finger a little bit longer to get unlocked. Alternatively, I use face unlock. It's standard on MIUI. I know its less secure, but Im not that scared And my enviroment is relatively safe. Face unlock works really fast.
There are tools to secure your data and apps. I just use app lock for one app with my passwords, and I checked you can secure any folder in the file manager.
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The more I look at the pics the Mi Note 10 can take, the more I'm set to it.
I was looking at the Mi 10T too.
I may buy it or the Mi Note 10 for the same price right now.
Speaking for myself, the Mi 10T sports a number of features that I don't find useful or even valuable, but I'd have to pay for nonetheless.
5G support is a pink invisible unicorn in my Country, at least for a good while. 4G devices are perfect.
The high Hz panel is a battery drain I don't need. You want 144 Hz? The chip must compose and present each. Talking of a... *mumbling* some quick math... 60:100=144:x ... x=144*100/60 ... x=240%... umm, talking of a +140% workload increase over a 60 Hz panel. No thanks!
The SoC is also powerful. Perhaps too much? My P9 runs 4x @ 2.5 and 4x @ 1.8 GHz cores. I can tell you it drains the battery quickly. I value more a slower chip that won't drink energy like beer.
Then there's the IPS vs. AMOLED thing... I've been living with IPS for the last 4.5 years and I appreciate it, but in total darkness the grey fog where black should be is gonna make you wish you chose differently.
Last, but not least, I have no samples to compare the Cameras against other devices. I'm sure that the Camera department has been shrunk to contain the production costs. It also lacks OIS, which I want this time around
As for the Lite versions... they were all in my radar. But none has OIS, and their photos always show artifacts from lot of Post-Processing (PP) to enhance the details. Sure, every phone does PP, but there's a reason if the more expensive devices don't need as much PP as the midrangers.
Camera wise, the Xiaomi Mi Note 10 is something! It's also modern and doesn't cost me a fortune
What I'm not thrilled about are the panel's rounded edges. Will get used to 'em, but I don't dig the change.
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Spoiler: 33 Hours Later (a true story)...
I'll just edit this in, hoping it's not against forum rules.
This afternoon I went to buy the smartphone. I could hardly believe to have found it so close to home (6 km) and at such a low price (349 €). And it was not from some minuscule shop nobody heard of, but in a Shopping Center and from none other than... um, I'm not sure I can name them.
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But I can reveal that it's a 2-words name, each word starting with M and each 5 characters long.
In their ads a capital red M character is also the omnipresent 3D object appearing in place of whatever the advertized product is.
Funny how they use their original name in all Europe, but in my Country alone they operate under a different name (always starting with M. Also, the ads copy the same graphics as the german originals).
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Anyway...
When I go at the counter, the surprises begin. They have 6 units total available and each box is NOT sealed, each phone has a protective film applied ALREADY, and there's a hidden EXTRA cost of 24 € for the "service", in addition to the price stated online.
I couldn't believe my ears as the clerk explained this stuff.
I asked if the phones were returned products or even refurbished, for none of this was explained or hinted at, online.
Heed his words: he didn't say they were "new" or "not refurbished", he said they were "not damaged products"!
Yeah, right...
I said this to him: "You can't prove your claim since the boxes are open. Keep your pre-applied protective films. For 350 euros I buy a sealed box covered by full warranty. You have one ready now, or I go away".
He mumbled: "I'm sorry" while turning at his monitor -- couldn't sustain my stare.
I didn't buy online to reserve the merchandise.
I could do so up until midnight yesterday, but waited too much and lost the opportunity (for reason unknown the merchandise went Unavailable for the time being).
Lady Luck herself made me miss the deal -- thank you thank you thank you!
Had I bought online, now it'd be trouble because... 1) I wouldn't get my money back (they'd give me a time-limited voucher valid in their shops only, but they got nothing I want) and... 2) to retrieve my merchandise at the counter I'd be charged the hidden 24 € -- else I wouldn't walk away with my property. Believe, it's all true!
I wonder what would have been sent me if I purchased online and chose to have it delivered home, and shudder at the idea of receiving a refurbished unit sold for pristine.
This thought is further strengthened by the customer reviews found on the website. Two reviews only, the last one from December 2020 saying that he "likes the Mi Note 10 but is disappointed by the lame touch display and fingerprint sensor".
From all accounts the Mi Note 10 doesn't mount lame hardware. I believe that this guy was sold a refurbished unit and he doesn't suspect it. He also praised the low price of the Mi Note 10. Sounds like he got a device from the lot I was presented today.
This is plain Commercial Misbehavior
[SMALL UPDATE]
In the end I bought the smartphone, at another shop, for another price.
I opted to have it delivered at the very shop, because it's near home and I'd go retrieve it myself.
Why use a courier when the shop is a mere 3 km from home -- right?
The package will arrive in two days from now, that is: the coming Monday... however I won't be able to retrieve it because starting with Monday we're in Lockdown and all shops will be closed. Until March 29th.
Covid sucks in every way