What's up with the mirror image thing? - Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Questions & Answers

Anyone know why Samsung switched the buttons AND s-pen location? After owning 4 Notes with the stylus in the same position, this is gonna be weird. Was it because of the camera module? I think as a right handed person, this will be annoying.

PsiPhiDan said:
Anyone know why Samsung switched the buttons AND s-pen location? After owning 4 Notes with the stylus in the same position, this is gonna be weird. Was it because of the camera module? I think as a right handed person, this will be annoying.
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To know why location changed, we maybe will have to wait till JerryRigEverything shows us an inside look.
Buttons I always preferred on the right.
I'm a left handed person.
Having the S-Pen on the right, I never had an issue using it when all these years it was on the right. Now when it's on the left, maybe I will feel what I was missing all these years...

Virgo_Guy said:
To know why location changed, we maybe will have to wait till JerryRigEverything shows us an inside look.
Buttons I always preferred on the right.
I'm a left handed person.
Having the S-Pen on the right, I never had an issue using it when all these years it was on the right. Now when it's on the left, maybe I will feel what I was missing all these years...
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If you're lefty, that is probably why you preferred buttons on the right. I really liked them on the left, as a righty.
I'm sure I'll adjust. It's just strange after so many years of the s-pen in the same spot...

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The little end on the s-pen is stuck in?

So I have noticed for a while that my s-pen is acting weird buy I found out today that the little transparent end that touches the screen is stuck in and not out like it used to be. Anyone know how I can get it out?
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Think mine is to but not sure how much travel its suppose to have.
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It doesn't move...
khaytsus said:
It doesn't move...
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I've gone through 3 notes and they all moved a little. My current one is a bit wobbly. Every other Wacom stylus I have moves a little bit.
johnus said:
I've gone through 3 notes and they all moved a little. My current one is a bit wobbly. Every other Wacom stylus I have moves a little bit.
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It does not "retract" up and down, or have any travel. Yes it wiggles a tiny bit...
Think mine is to but not sure how much travel its suppose to have.
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khaytsus said:
It does not "retract" up and down, or have any travel. Yes it wiggles a tiny bit...
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Hm. I don't know...i swear mine pushes in and out as i place pressure on it. I know for a fact my other Wacom pens do.
johnus said:
Hm. I don't know...i swear mine pushes in and out as i place pressure on it. I know for a fact my other Wacom pens do.
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Hmm, I dunno, maybe mine is messed up too then I actually have used the S Pen very little, but when I used in the store I poked at the S-Pen and its tip was "solid" feeling, and mine is too.
I read that it can detect 255 different levels of pressure, however on mine, it seem like it's more like 3. Maybe wrong thread, but...
S-Memo, if I put zero pressure on the pen and draw, nothing draws. A tiny bit of pressure and I get a light or thin drawing, depending on tool.. More pressure and it darkens/gets thicker. But pretty much nowhere in between. Maybe not the best app to try it.
Well, Multitouch Visualizer 2 I can see a wide amount of pressure sensitivity, but in real world use (at least in S-Memo) I only really see two. I suspect app limitation...
khaytsus said:
Hmm, I dunno, maybe mine is messed up too then I actually have used the S Pen very little, but when I used in the store I poked at the S-Pen and its tip was "solid" feeling, and mine is too.
I read that it can detect 255 different levels of pressure, however on mine, it seem like it's more like 3. Maybe wrong thread, but...
S-Memo, if I put zero pressure on the pen and draw, nothing draws. A tiny bit of pressure and I get a light or thin drawing, depending on tool.. More pressure and it darkens/gets thicker. But pretty much nowhere in between. Maybe not the best app to try it.
Well, Multitouch Visualizer 2 I can see a wide amount of pressure sensitivity, but in real world use (at least in S-Memo) I only really see two. I suspect app limitation...
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In S-Memo, switch to brush (which darkens with pressure), and you'll see finer pressure responses.
tenderchkn said:
In S-Memo, switch to brush (which darkens with pressure), and you'll see finer pressure responses.
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Did, still only saw two levels as far as I could tell. I looked around for some other P-Pen apps, but so far not seeing anything.. Maybe Autodesk will release another version of Express Paint for a few bucks with S-Pen support.....
Mine is the same. Just a bit of wiggle room to it. Can't really see it physically moving up and down.
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It doesn't move...
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Sure it does. It's a pressure sensitive tip. Has about 1mm of travel.
Sent from my Galaxy Note (SGH-i717) using XDA Premium.
PeartFan40 said:
Sure it does. It's a pressure sensitive tip. Has about 1mm of travel.
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Don't see 1mm of travel on mine, but yes it moves a tiny bit. IMO it seems like there should be more travel in order to really use the 128 levels of pressure sensitivity. I'm going to find and check out a "real" wacom stylus and look at its tip for giggles.

[Q] Faulty Digitizer?

The bottom-most right-most corner of my display (in portrait) is not responsive to touches and is kind of annoying when typing. I have to usually try several times to get the response.
Stock ROM, only rooted. I just reset it again. I changed the lcd density back to 320 to see if that was an issue, formally at 240.
I used the S-Pen to do these drawing to demonstrate the problem area. The results are strange. In portrait the problem exists but when in landscape it doesn't appear to be a problem. Is this a hardware or software issue or anyone else experience this?
The local AT&T shop says it’s definitely not normal and I can go to their local warranty shop but I don’t necessarily want to get a refurbished replacement if the ICS release might fix it.
I dont have a note yet, but personally myself, I would unroot and take it back asap. Hopefully someone on here will be able to offer a better solution soon, but if not, then I would return it. Hope you get it sorted out.
Pretty sure it's the built-in offset. Go to phone settings -> pen options and change the dominant hand to left. I think you'll find that it is now the bottom left corner that won't respond. Also test with the phone upside down, and it should still be one of the bottom corners (but the other side, since you've turned the phone upside down).
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Pretty sure it's the built-in offset. Go to phone settings -> pen options and change the dominant hand to left. I think you'll find that it is now the bottom left corner that won't respond. Also test with the phone upside down, and it should still be one of the bottom corners (but the other side, since you've turned the phone upside down).
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Changing the dominance does swap the S-Pen's ability to recognize that corner and changes it to the other corner.
However, it's stll not recognizing my finger touches.
So to confirm, using my finger with the dominance swapped yields the same results as the images posted with the S-Pen.
When rotated to landscape and using my finger, I cannot reach that corner like I can with the S-Pen when rotated to landscape.
I would believe this is a finger touch issue and not to much S-Pen
Actually. I have a slightly bigger problem. Sometimes hovering my spen above the right bottom corner will trigger a touch. Mainly the space. Enter. Backspace. And m keys. I think I'm going to get it swapped out
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Mrglass86 said:
Actually. I have a slightly bigger problem. Sometimes hovering my spen above the right bottom corner will trigger a touch. Mainly the space. Enter. Backspace. And m keys. I think I'm going to get it swapped out
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that's actually been covered, there's a post here about putting aluminum foil tape on your stylus to correct the issue.
AT&T is sending me another one... we'll see what that one does and hope that it's just not my personal perception.
Replacement arrived and does not share the issue

[Q] S PEN functions different on Sprint and Verizon?

Hello. I bought both a Sprint and Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Amoung the many differences is the S PEN. The Sprint one does not have tne non-touch of the stylus to perform funtions on the phone.For example, I can swipe pages or select a function without ever touching the screen with Verizon' stylus. And both sylus' are compatible with ea h phone. Tne manuals are correct for version.My question: Has any body else experieced this. Is there a way to tell which stylus model you have? Would buying one off from Samsung products page help? Thanks!
1Brite1 said:
Hello. I bought both a Sprint and Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 2. Amoung the many differences is the S PEN. The Sprint one does not have tne non-touch of the stylus to perform funtions on the phone.For example, I can swipe pages or select a function without ever touching the screen with Verizon' stylus. And both sylus' are compatible with ea h phone. Tne manuals are correct for version.My question: Has any body else experieced this. Is there a way to tell which stylus model you have? Would buying one off from Samsung products page help? Thanks!
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I don't think that you're supposed to be able to switch the pages without touching the phone if you can draw without touching the phone something is probably wrong with the spen try tapping it on something hard
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The Verizon stylus does not draw in the air. But, I literally tap the air not the screen to select apps or swipe to a different screen. There is no physical contact unless I am actually drawing or taking a note.
On the Sprint stylus, there is a light beam that you can line up to certain functions for a pop-up effect. But every thing else is using the beam to make it scroll with arrows without touching. Verizon's sylus you do all of the functions except as noted, in the air.
timmyd463229 said:
I don't think that you're supposed to be able to switch the pages without touching the phone if you can draw without touching the phone something is probably wrong with the spen try tapping it on something hard
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This^ My roommate has the Verizon flavor and each stylus works the same way with both phones.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028581
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Thanks. I did see that. But I am not having any issues other than the fact both stylus' seem to be working according to each phone carriers manual. I prefer the way the Verizon works by not touching the screen itself. I thought it my be software related, but each stylus is interchangeable and just curious as to why and how to get one like the Verizon for Sprint.
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Thanks. I did see that. But I am not having any issues other than the fact both stylus' seem to be working according to each phone carriers manual. I prefer the way the Verizon works by not touching the screen itself. I thought it my be software related, but each stylus is interchangeable and just curious as to why and how to get one like the Verizon for Sprint.
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There is no difference mate. They work like one and the same. At least that is the intention, if they do work differently it needs to be fixed by tapping the pen on a hard surface until it works right.
You're supposed to only get Air View functionality by holding the pen over the screen, not actual control as if it's touching.
I guess I am going to have to actually go into the Verizon and Sprint stores to look at their models as even after "calibrating" both, they still function the same. Like I said before, the Verizon S Pen not actually having to touch the screen is totally cool. If you want to swipe to a different page it does it in the air. If you want to select a function or App, you just "tap" it without touching the screen. It has no round circle indicator that shows up like the Sprint model. I can't believe that I am the only one to have this working like this.
I tried the hard tap calibrating and also where you take the actual button cover off and calibrate to try to make them the same but they both still do their thing. And both S Pens function the same way if I use them on either phone. Trust me, if you could get this to work you would love it. I just wish I could figure out how to get the Sprint S Pen to do the same as it seems like it is missing something after using the one from Verizon.
1Brite1 said:
I guess I am going to have to actually go into the Verizon and Sprint stores to look at their models as even after "calibrating" both, they still function the same. Like I said before, the Verizon S Pen not actually having to touch the screen is totally cool. If you want to swipe to a different page it does it in the air. If you want to select a function or App, you just "tap" it without touching the screen. It has no round circle indicator that shows up like the Sprint model. I can't believe that I am the only one to have this working like this.
I tried the hard tap calibrating and also where you take the actual button cover off and calibrate to try to make them the same but they both still do their thing. And both S Pens function the same way if I use them on either phone. Trust me, if you could get this to work you would love it. I just wish I could figure out how to get the Sprint S Pen to do the same as it seems like it is missing something after using the one from Verizon.
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All it is is that your Verizon s-pen has the pen nib jammed in so it always thinks it is touching the screen. When you get close to the screen, the Wacom technology kicks in. You can test this pretty easily. On your Sprint s-pen hold it against your pinky and do the same thing as you do with your Verizon one. It will move around without touching the screen. That's also the reason why you don't get the air view functionality on the Verizon because it always thinks it is touching the screen. Hope this helps.
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Its TwiX said:
All it is is that your Verizon s-pen has the pen nib jammed in so it always thinks it is touching the screen. When you get close to the screen, the Wacom technology kicks in. You can test this pretty easily. On your Sprint s-pen hold it against your pinky and do the same thing as you do with your Verizon one. It will move around without touching the screen. That's also the reason why you don't get the air view functionality on the Verizon because it always thinks it is touching the screen. Hope this helps.
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Yea! You are totally right. I wasn't sure at first what you meant by the pinky thing, but once I put my pinky on the tip of the S Pen and tried to swipe or whatever, it works. I guess now I just need to "jam" the rib in on the Sprint one and I will be good to go! HA! Thanks so much. You made my night.

Samsung notes lack in handwriting recognition

I did test the s6 at a retailer and I noticed that the Samsung Notes App did not recognize my handwriting in landscape mode at a specific place. It was when I did get closer with my palm to the edge (with power and volume button on the upper side).
At the middle kind of a little bit to the right there seems to be a blind spot where writing/drawing is not recognized in first place. Only after second or third attempt and then it seems like the recognition of the pressure is half off.
Don't know if the bright light from above or a already often used spen causes this.
Can any owner confirm?
Picture is attached (left space is empty because I did not encounter issues there)
LaCereb said:
I did test the s6 at a retailer and I noticed that the Samsung Notes App did not recognize my handwriting in landscape mode at a specific place. It was when I did get closer with my palm to the edge (with power and volume button on the upper side).
At the middle kind of a little bit to the right there seems to be a blind spot where writing/drawing is not recognized in first place. Only after second or third attempt and then it seems like the recognition of the pressure is half off.
Don't know if the bright light from above or a already often used spen causes this.
Can any owner confirm?
Picture is attached (left space is empty because I did not encounter issues there)
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Looks just like mine in this post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80372311&postcount=16
Was it in a case or something else with magnets?
TiTiB said:
Looks just like mine in this post. https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80372311&postcount=16
Was it in a case or something else with magnets?
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HAH.
Yes indeed it was on a stand with a magnet on top to hold the device. And that field where i could not draw would fit the size of that magnet..
Unbelivable that you have to keep such things in mind when you want to you a tablet with that price...
Does Apple have such problems with their ipad series? Im so much struggling in the decision if apple or samsung. Im a Android guy and would like to keep my Android world but i want a performant device which does not have childhood injuries like that....
LaCereb said:
HAH.
Yes indeed it was on a stand with a magnet on top to hold the device. And that field where i could not draw would fit the size of that magnet..
Unbelivable that you have to keep such things in mind when you want to you a tablet with that price...
Does Apple have such problems with their ipad series? Im so much struggling in the decision if apple or samsung. Im a Android guy and would like to keep my Android world but i want a performant device which does not have childhood injuries like that....
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It isn't the tablet, but the case/holder.
I have two cases. One which the tab slips in to a holder—no probs there.
My other case holds the tab (very securely) with a magnet—therefore the dead spot. Love this case, except for the dead spot ceated by the stting magnet. This an awesome case in every other way, especially because there is nothing blocking the sides of the tablet, no edge swipe issues, et al.
So, I've just accepted that if I want to do any serious S-pen writing or drawing I have to either go case-less, or switch to the other one.
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It isn't the tablet, but the case/holder.
I have two cases. One which the tab slips in to a holder—no probs there.
My other case holds the tab (very securely) with a magnet—therefore the dead spot. Love this case, except for the dead spot ceated by the stting magnet. This an awesome case in every other way, especially because there is nothing blocking the sides of the tablet, no edge swipe issues, et al.
So, I've just accepted that if I want to do any serious S-pen writing or drawing I have to either go case-less, or switch to the other one.
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Could you link your second Case please
LaCereb said:
Could you link your second Case please
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Just search my name in S6 forum. Both cases are linked—Amazon.

Question Seeing touchscreen issues. Would you guys mind trying to do a touchscreen test and report back??

I've been seeing my taps show up as swipes on my touchscreen. Would you guys mind downloading touchscreen test, setting the zoom to 0%, and tapping around like you're typing on your keyboard? On my other phones all the taps show up as dots, but on a few of the Pixel 6 devices I've tried, like 20% of the time they are show up as small swipes.
link to the app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.rallwell.siriuth.touchscreentest
see the small swipes happening here: https://gfycat.com/agreeablepertinentarachnid
The app hasn't been updated in nearly a year, maybe that could be an issue. But I don't have any touchscreen issues so perhaps someone else can help more.
bobby janow said:
The app hasn't been updated in nearly a year, maybe that could be an issue. But I don't have any touchscreen issues so perhaps someone else can help more.
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The app not being updated isn't an issue. I think most people don't think they have issues with the touchscreen, but it just may not be very apparent to them. That's why I wanted people to just try it and report back. It's definitely super janky on every P6 I've tried, even the ones in store, making me think its widespread.
Mg213 said:
I've been seeing my taps show up as swipes on my touchscreen. Would you guys mind downloading touchscreen test, setting the zoom to 0%, and tapping around like you're typing on your keyboard? On my other phones all the taps show up as dots, but on a few of the Pixel 6 devices I've tried, like 20% of the time they are show up as small swipes.
link to the app here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jp.rallwell.siriuth.touchscreentest
see the small swipes happening here: https://gfycat.com/agreeablepertinentarachnid
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I've noticed that as well and always thought I was just ... doing it wrong lol. Sometimes a simple tap will bring down QS or my side launcher. Sometimes a tap does nothing at all and I have to tap an icon or widget 2-3 times before the Pixel agrees to do whatever it is that tap was supposed to do.
Then again I do use an "unsupported" tempered glass screen protector, so I'm inclined to think that's the reason.
I have also seen this and am not sure if the problem is due to the screen protector that i use (not one of the officially approved ones) or the software being still a little buggy or both in combination. It happens rarely enough to not bother me much.
So I loaded the app, got my magnifier out, and tried it. I have fat fingers and it seemed to go alright. If I touched it for too long there was a tiny swipe but then I corrected my touches and almost all were dots. Itsy bitsy swipes now and again but nothing that was super obvious as a flaw. I see a ton of little dots, where are your dots?
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So I loaded the app, got my magnifier out, and tried it. I have fat fingers and it seemed to go alright. If I touched it for too long there was a tiny swipe but then I corrected my touches and almost all were dots. Itsy bitsy swipes now and again but nothing that was super obvious as a flaw. I see a ton of little dots, where are your dots?
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It just depends on the size of the itsy bitsy swipes that show up. For example mine are attached. I feel that these are too big and cause issue with the with tapping sometimes.
And actually I feel it's even worse when tapping with my index finger.
Seems good to me, I mean I got some micro swipes but I'm sure that because I swipe my finger a tiny bit.
You can't even see the dots on my 3 XL with 0 to 100 but zero swipes registered.
(I had made a post before where I didn't follow instructions so I edited all of it out and did it right).
Sure seems like a hardware issue to me.
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You can't even see the dots on my 3 XL with 0 to 100 but zero swipes registered.
(I had made a post before where I didn't follow instructions so I edited all of it out and did it right).
Sure seems like a hardware issue to me.
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thanks, it'd be good to see what other pixel 6 users see
Now that you say it, I'm pretty sure I'm experiencing the same, that would be why sometimes I have the feeling my commands are not registered. I don't know if it's software or hardware, I believe it could be easily fixed with software (a bit like a palm rejection feature, to ignore tiny slides)
I had similar experience. Once noticed my mind started exaggerating it I believe. Because I also have the same challenges with touch on my Galaxy S10 work phone. For me at least I think it's me not the P6. Will certainly try the app on both phones this weekend.
I have a completely different issue that I was suspecting for some time now. Taps don't register on the lower corners of the screen. I have to squeeze it to register. Swiping though at the same areas is working fine.
derausgewanderte said:
I had similar experience. Once noticed my mind started exaggerating it I believe. Because I also have the same challenges with touch on my Galaxy S10 work phone. For me at least I think it's me not the P6. Will certainly try the app on both phones this weekend.
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I mean, from your signature, it looks like you've gone through alot of phones. How could it be you, not the P6 if you've never experienced this before on anything other than your S10?
Mg213 said:
I mean, from your signature, it looks like you've gone through alot of phones. How could it be you, not the P6 if you've never experienced this before on anything other than your S10?
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I only have the P6 for a couple of months. The only other phone I currently have and rarely use is the S10 and I can only make a comparison to that. Or in other words, this might have been there all along and I never paid attention to it.
arvylas said:
I have a completely different issue that I was suspecting for some time now. Taps don't register on the lower corners of the screen. I have to squeeze it to register. Swiping though at the same areas is working fine.
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Yeah now that you mention it my lower corners don't respond either
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Yeah now that you mention it my lower corners don't respond either
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I haven't had a phone since the P3 that responds on the lower corners all the time. I've learned to live with it since it's really not all that bad and it's not always. I mean this is a mass produced phone and I'm sure all devices have little quirks like this. It's not a lunar landing module that needs nano second response it's just a phone. I find that if I obsess over the small stuff I won't enjoy the device and I really don't want to do that. That being said, I do understand what you're going after and your upset. I'm just not there.
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I haven't had a phone since the P3 that responds on the lower corners all the time. I've learned to live with it since it's really not all that bad and it's not always. I mean this is a mass produced phone and I'm sure all devices have little quirks like this. It's not a lunar landing module that needs nano second response it's just a phone. I find that if I obsess over the small stuff I won't enjoy the device and I really don't want to do that. That being said, I do understand what you're going after and your upset. I'm just not there.
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For sure. The device is fast but it feels like a step backward from all my previous phones in terms of usability since I find I often have to tap things twice or doesn't respond to touch the way I expect it to. To me this is completely unexpected. I guess most people just don't notice these issues and so if that's the case, it's never going to be fixed. I just want Google to do right but I give up. Moving on to Samsung or iphone now.
Thanks for providing the info all, I was thinking of downgrading from a Pixel 6 pro to the 6. Although the screen on the 6 pro is curve I have the exact same issue. Never experienced this on my past pixels.

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