Hi everyone,
I wanted to put this in the development section because it would get more notice, but I know it belongs here. I haven't tried ArrowOS for a while due to the build thread being closed/locked. Anyway, I've been playing around with different ROMS lately trying to find an android 10 version that gets the very low deep sleep battery usage that android 9 used to get. So on ArrowOS (android 10) I'm getting approx 2% battery drain per day if the device isn't used at all. Awesome.
I've been using CarbonROM and CRdroid which are both awesome ROMS btw, but on both of these I get approx 8% battery drain per day if the device isn't used at all.
So this thread is really just any FYI for anyone else out there like me, that thought Arrow wasn't still being updated. I've been using it for a day or so, and everything is working great. I haven't included the website link but any search will find it easily.
Hi ! I'm using Crdroid. The rom developer is already working on 11 androids.There is a future.
I can't write statistics. I installed the Hibernator apk. Now the battery is good.
In which version of the ArrowOs did you get these %2/day battery drain?
I'm using pixel experience plus for low standby battery drain. But it is Android 9.
NS_85 said:
In which version of the ArrowOs did you get these %2/day battery drain?
I'm using pixel experience plus for low standby battery drain. But it is Android 9.
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I'm using the gapps build 2020-10-02, from arrowos . net
Should have mentioned this first post - I've got the wifi only version, and I use tasker to turn wifi on/off with the screen. No other battery optimisations etc
This weird battery drain start to affect roms from March onwards. Hope the developers nailed down the cause in the kernel sources soon.
Wizballs said:
Hi everyone,
I wanted to put this in the development section because it would get more notice, but I know it belongs here. I haven't tried ArrowOS for a while due to the build thread being closed/locked. Anyway, I've been playing around with different ROMS lately trying to find an android 10 version that gets the very low deep sleep battery usage that android 9 used to get. So on ArrowOS (android 10) I'm getting approx 2% battery drain per day if the device isn't used at all. Awesome.
I've been using CarbonROM and CRdroid which are both awesome ROMS btw, but on both of these I get approx 8% battery drain per day if the device isn't used at all.
So this thread is really just any FYI for anyone else out there like me, that thought Arrow wasn't still being updated. I've been using it for a day or so, and everything is working great. I haven't included the website link but any search will find it easily.
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Been running carbon rom for a loooong time. If left I lose 4% per day. Not bad at all. That's with WiFi and cellular signal on and always connected, plus Bluetooth. Seems fine to me
Maybe that has something to do with it - yours is 4g, mine is the WIfi model? Are you running a recent build of Carbon, and do you have gapps installed?
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Been running carbon rom for a loooong time. If left I lose 4% per day. Not bad at all. That's with WiFi and cellular signal on and always connected, plus Bluetooth. Seems fine to me
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Yeah I found the same thing with all the other 10.0 roms I tried..... except for Arrow like I mentioned
Never_Sm1le said:
This weird battery drain start to affect roms from March onwards. Hope the developers nailed down the cause in the kernel sources soon.
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Wizballs said:
Maybe that has something to do with it - yours is 4g, mine is the WIfi model? Are you running a recent build of Carbon, and do you have gapps installed?
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Yup, updated regularly with the weekly builds. Have gapps installed. Not too sure, but as a guess I would have thought the 4g+WiFi would consume slightly more power than WiFi only as it'll be searching for/refreshing signal.
Also with the Bluetooth always on, whenever I watch TV it connects and disconnects to my Bluetooth speakers that come on with TV. I'd have thought that would add to consumption too.
Definitely would think that wifi only models should use less battery. Still tho, others have the same battery drain as me.. .
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Yup, updated regularly with the weekly builds. Have gapps installed. Not too sure, but as a guess I would have thought the 4g+WiFi would consume slightly more power than WiFi only as it'll be searching for/refreshing signal.
Also with the Bluetooth always on, whenever I watch TV it connects and disconnects to my Bluetooth speakers that come on with TV. I'd have thought that would add to consumption too.
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@Wizballs Wow, thanks for the tip! I've been having the same problem, also with a WiFI-only miPad 4. Even with MIUI from Xiaomi.eu had the same problem. I also tested the latest LineageOS 17.1, CarbonROM, and crDroid. They all lose about 5% during 7 hours of standby with WiFI and Bluetooth turned off. Whereas the latest ArrowOS lost 0% during 7 hours. Quite impressive!
There are a few disadvantages though with ArrowOS:
- The system theme color, it appears there should be a dark orange color available (something like #e74e1b) but it is not available
- The AOSP keyboard has no top number row. This is something that crDroid has, also with the AOSP keyboard.
- The default camera app has no panoramic mode. I wish they could include the MIUI Camera app that Carbon ROM uses, While also keeping the default camera, which is better for most things..
- The LED light does not turn on while charging.
Cool I just thought it would be good to share. You are right about no led light while charging, I never noticed before. I use gboard for number row, and Google camera installs from the playstore, seems to work fine for panorama shots. Also haven't noticed any issues with theming, bit I've just left it on default.
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@Wizballs Wow, thanks for the tip! I've been having the same problem, also with a WiFI-only miPad 4. Even with MIUI from Xiaomi.eu had the same problem. I also tested the latest LineageOS 17.1, CarbonROM, and crDroid. They all lose about 5% during 7 hours of standby with WiFI and Bluetooth turned off. Whereas the latest ArrowOS lost 0% during 7 hours. Quite impressive!
There are a few disadvantages though with ArrowOS:
- The system theme color, it appears there should be a dark orange color available (something like #e74e1b) but it is not available
- The AOSP keyboard has no top number row. This is something that crDroid has, also with the AOSP keyboard.
- The default camera app has no panoramic mode. I wish they could include the MIUI Camera app that Carbon ROM uses, While also keeping the default camera, which is better for most things..
- The LED light does not turn on while charging.
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@Wizballs Any idea which CPU governor ArrowOS is using by default?
@sb56637 Kernel auditor says interactive governer
New android 10 build out 2020-11-09. All working well for me so far
https://arrowos.net/download
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New android 10 build out 2020-11-09. All working well for me so far
https://arrowos.net/download
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I installed it too. Seems pretty much like the last build. Still no LED notification lights during charging or when notifications arrive with the screen off.
Might be enough to annoy some people I guess. I just keep using it because Android 10 plus great battery standby for wifi only models.
I've just installed the official ArrowOS 11.0 build. Dirty flash over AOS 10 successfully. Will test and report back, especially regarding battery life on wifi only model
Reporting back on Arrow 11.0 builds (wifi only model)
- Standby battery approx 3% per day
- OTA update works
- Charging led not showing
- Nutflix not in playstore. Probably side-loadable, but haven't tried
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Reporting back on Arrow 11.0 builds (wifi only model)
- Standby battery approx 3% per day
- OTA update works
- Charging led not showing
- Nutflix not in playstore. Probably side-loadable, but haven't tried
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I also just dirty-flashed ArrowOS 11.0 (from 10.x) on my WIFI-only model. Also confirming that the LED does not appear when charging or for notifications. It has settings now to enable/disable the LED, but they make no difference.
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I am using Resurrection Remix 16/04 build for a month now. I am getting 5-5.5 hours of screen on time. But I need to charge it in the evening for it be usable. It was not the case in MIUI. Is battery life better in MIUI ? Which custom rom is best for battery life ? I am not a heavy user just social media, youtube etc.
I used Nitrogen OS Oreo and battery was bad. I reverted to last miui stable and battery now is good.
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I used Nitrogen OS Oreo and battery was bad. I reverted to last miui stable and battery now is good.
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Yeah same I am also thinking of going back to MIUI. There the battery life is good and I am facing LTE signal fluctuation every now and then on all custom roms. Don't know if its a common bug.
customised lineage umang nougat wth shadow kernel
It could be better if other people will share their tests
Aug 2017 build of viper os is best for battery......
dex2601 said:
I am using Resurrection Remix 16/04 build for a month now. I am getting 5-5.5 hours of screen on time. But I need to charge it in the evening for it be usable. It was not the case in MIUI. Is battery life better in MIUI ? Which custom rom is best for battery life ? I am not a heavy user just social media, youtube etc.
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You can check [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][8.1.0][kenzo] LineageOS 15.1[Nightlies]. I've moved to this ROM from NOS 8.1, when SOT times were decreasing (3-4 hours, even of WiFi) and I'm quite surprised with SOT on LOS. Please keep in mind, this SOT is only linked to WiFi - I didn't used mobile data at all with this charge. I'm using latest Agni kernel.
I can also post statistics using mixed usage (WiFi + mobile data) someday, if you are interested.
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You can check [ROM][UNOFFICIAL][8.1.0][kenzo] LineageOS 15.1[Nightlies]. I've moved to this ROM from NOS 8.1, when SOT times were decreasing (3-4 hours, even of WiFi) and I'm quite surprised with SOT on LOS. Please keep in mind, this SOT is only linked to WiFi - I didn't used mobile data at all with this charge. I'm using latest Agni kernel.
I can also post statistics using mixed usage (WiFi + mobile data) someday, if you are interested.
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Thanks a lot!Please post it if you are free. I'm looking to upgrade to oreo come June before I go overseas, but I don't have time to test ROMs because I have exams before then.
Check here its works if doesn't blast here
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIFhAB&usg=AOvVaw2oDLijLxRBfZmZ5tyl2aIS
Hi guys,
I'm a new Poco user. I've checked out the forums and saw lots of ROMs, Kernels and even Recovery software. I'm a bit overwhelmed for the first time as I'm liking stock MIUI 10 for now. Can someone enlighten me on which ROM has the most features, what ROM is the most stable, which kernels go best with which?
Stability: BaikalOS, Pixel Experience
Powersave: BaikalOS
Customizability / Extra Features: Resurrection Remix, crDroid, Havoc-OS / POSP
Performance: Nitrogen OS, crDroid
Pixel Like: Havoc-OS, Pixel Experience
These are the ones I know but haven't tested all of them. Tell me if I'm missing any.
menfie said:
Stability: BaikalOS, Pixel Experience
Powersave: BaikalOS
Customizability / Extra Features: Resurrection Remix, crDroid, Havoc-OS / POSP
Performance: Nitrogen OS, crDroid
Pixel Like: Havoc-OS, Pixel Experience
These are the ones I know but haven't tested all of them. Tell me if I'm missing any.
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Wow thanks. Does BaikalOS have the app cloning feature? How good is the battery life compared to MIUI 10?
best kernels
Sphinx and Franco kernel
Best roms
Lineage and stock
Stock is of course the most stable, but the beta builds always have bugs they always remove settings add settings fix something break something.
hakkai999 said:
Wow thanks. Does BaikalOS have the app cloning feature? How good is the battery life compared to MIUI 10?
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It doesn't have the app cloning and battery life is a lot better if you manage the background apps strictly but you still have to install it and test it yourself.
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pingufanpoy said:
best kernels
Sphinx and Franco kernel
Best roms
Lineage and stock
Stock is of course the most stable, but the beta builds always have bugs they always remove settings add settings fix something break something.
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There is no best rom or best kernel, it all comes down to personal preference...
Lineage Pie with Franco kernel.
..and go with pixel experience only if u r into very stock version which I think is overrated given its customization limitations.
I have always hated chinese ROMs or apps, take MIUI for example they have like hundreds of apps injected into core system (miui security, miui contacts, miui dialer, miui messaging, miui this that and what not...)
pingufanpoy said:
best kernels
Sphinx and Franco kernel
Best roms
Lineage and stock
Stock is of course the most stable, but the beta builds always have bugs they always remove settings add settings fix something break something.
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Do you know if Lineage OS has the signal issue fixed on it? I only really moved away from it because of that. Im on crDroid and my signal is much better now
hakkai999 said:
Wow thanks. Does BaikalOS have the app cloning feature? How good is the battery life compared to MIUI 10?
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Hey my fellow filipino , i am flashaholic and i loved cynogenmod until lineage16 very much ..but this im on stock open beta rom 9.1.24 which has Good battery life for gaming because i played a lot , no touch issue ever since day one my poco was one of the initial released manufacturing date was on july ,graphics is so smooth when playing pubg settings are HDR+extreme+60fps.. This rom has been tested very much by me.. by the way it's up to you buddy it's your decision.:good:
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Hey my fellow filipino , i am flashaholic and i loved cynogenmod until lineage16 very much ..but this im on stock open beta rom 9.1.24 which has Good battery life for gaming because i played a lot , no touch issue ever since day one my poco was one of the initial released manufacturing date was on july ,graphics is so smooth when playing pubg settings are HDR+extreme+60fps.. This rom has been tested very much by me.. by the way it's up to you buddy it's your decision.:good:
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Hi fellow Flip! Yeah I went with Ambasidii rom based on stock MIUI since I need the cloned app feature for ROM (Slave priest). It's rooted and has derp kernel. Battery life is quite a lot better. I was redownloading all my apps overnight and it only drained about 7% of battery life which is 1% more than full stock on idle without WiFi.
By the way, do you do a battery recalibration once you switch roms? Standby time is fantastic on mine but it seems to drain a little harder while playing ROM compared to stock.
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By the way, do you do a battery recalibration once you switch roms? Standby time is fantastic on mine but it seems to drain a little harder while playing ROM compared to stock.
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There's no need to recalibrated when switching roms. Recommended calibrating your battery ( each month or every three months )
android phones this days use lithium-ion (Li-ion) or lithium-polymer (Li-po) batteries for Poco F1 . This batteries don’t need to be fully discharged, and come with smart chips that make calibration unnecessary and that's the good thing for us.
Just want to share this method , i do this all the time after switching custom roms.
First, drain your phone’s battery completely. Don’t charge it at any point while it’s draining. Let the phone keep working till it shuts itself off. Once the phone has shut itself off, restart it so it shuts off again. Even though the battery was at 0 percent, it has a few reserves left. Now, while the phone is off, charge it to 100 percent. It’s safe to use quick chargers for this, but make sure you hit 100 percent. Once it’s fully charged, unplug it and boot your phone. Android might not say it’s at 100 percent, and that’s okay. In that case, plug the charger again and let it get to 100 percent. then unplug it. This cycle of full drain and recharging lets the chip calibrate its readings with the battery’s charge cycle.
hope that helps:good:
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Do you know if Lineage OS has the signal issue fixed on it? I only really moved away from it because of that. Im on crDroid and my signal is much better now
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What signal issue exactly? I'm trying Lineage at the moment and using Derp Kernel.
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What signal issue exactly? I'm trying Lineage at the moment and using Derp Kernel.
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This thread here has a good amount of info on it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/cell-signal-worse-custom-rom-t3881912
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This thread here has a good amount of info on it.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f1/how-to/cell-signal-worse-custom-rom-t3881912
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Thanks mate!
I was wondering if some are still using Android 9 (stock or custom) I'm on CR 5.10. Tried 10 a few times and always came back, mainly due to missing features. But i would like to update the kernel, does anyone know of any kernel still being updated?
After 2 years of very intensive use, 14+ hours a day on screen. I thought battery was dieing.
It was not, switches back to pie PE legendary edition I I got 11 hours on screen at 50% brightness. ( I have to say I disabled big clusters temporary using 3ctool) still, fluid. And fine.
I was on crDroid 5.9 till March. Switched to 6.4 and pretty satisfied. Which features are you missing the most?
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I was on crDroid 5.9 till March. Switched to 6.4 and pretty satisfied. Which features are you missing the most?
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Missing privacy guard
Some of my old apps don't work on 10
The old card recent style, don't like quickstep
Xposed works on 10 but some modules don't work
Overall pie firmware touch feels smoother
I will give 10 another chance later maybe.
Hello all,
I tried all the custom ROMs available and they seem to have a high idle drain. I am loosing usually 10-20% per day which is extremely high in my opinion.
The Paranoid Android and Arter97's software collection seems to be slightly better but that is Android Pie based.
Is Android 10 the actual problem for the drain? Do you have any suggestions on how to fix it?
I never tried MIUI so I do not know how is the idle drain on the official OS but I had a Lenovo Tab 4 8" plus before and it was barely loosing 1% per day.
I hope I can find a good setup because at the moment there are not many options for a good 8" tablet. Even the Mediapad M6 8.4" is not produced anymore.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention that I use f2fs partitions on data and cache. I am not sure if that could cause any issue but on other devices I never noticed battery drain because of it.
ghiri said:
Hello all,
I tried all the custom ROMs available and they seem to have a high idle drain. I am loosing usually 10-20% per day which is extremely high in my opinion.
The Paranoid Android and Arter97's software collection seems to be slightly better but that is Android Pie based.
Is Android 10 the actual problem for the drain? Do you have any suggestions on how to fix it?
I never tried MIUI so I do not know how is the idle drain on the official OS but I had a Lenovo Tab 4 8" plus before and it was barely loosing 1% per day.
I hope I can find a good setup because at the moment there are not many options for a good 8" tablet. Even the Mediapad M6 8.4" is not produced anymore.
Any feedback is welcome. Thanks!
Edit: I forgot to mention that I use f2fs partitions on data and cache. I am not sure if that could cause any issue but on other devices I never noticed battery drain because of it.
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yes. I'm facing same issue too. performance is owesome but idle battery got problem. have been try all android 10 for clover. all of them have the same issue . I don't think android 10 causes the problem because my lavender on miui android 10 battery life very good.
Turning off wifi works for me. When I do not need the device I just turn it off and the battery lasts much longer then when idle. have not really looked into it but I guess it is related to data usage or device not going to "deep" sleep
Yes, I had this issue with many custom roms, except Carbon rom. I've been running Carbon rom since I found this rom didn't have that issue, though it has less features than most of other roms
GialanG said:
Yes, I had this issue with many custom roms, except Carbon rom. I've been running Carbon rom since I found this rom didn't have that issue, though it has less features than most of other roms
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Yup, I second that. Also using carbon rom and idle drain is good
If you're using magisk then v20.4 have higher battery drain during idle. Try v20.3
How does LiR 18.1 GSI compare to official lineage 16.0? Are there any major bugs in either? How do they compare in regards to battery life and overall performance? How is performance compared to stock EMUI?
I am running LIR 312 as a daily driver. It the first few days the battery usage was enormous, it did not last a full day. That may be because of all the app installations, setting tweaking, downloads, etc. Strange thing was the battery usage was huge even when I did not use the phone. But after a few days everything went back to normal, battery usage is similar than in stock. For my use the performance is similar than in stock. That said that is enough for me.
As for stability and bugs I did not yet find anything that would affect me. After installing NFC patch I have working all of my banking apps. I do not need super-fast charging so I did not test that. The offline charging does not work, but I can not see why would I need that.
While using CAOS11 I noticed that sometimes I lost all phone connections. That did not happen using LIR, but on CAOS it started appearing after several weeks of usage, so I have to wait a little longer to be sure.
As I am not power user, perhaps somebody else could give a more detailed answer...