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devs are all busy making their own roms/Kernels or whatever, for example my poco f1 Has tons of roms while most of the users prefer to stay on the stock miui, others use Pixel Experience or LOS. The other 90% Of roms didn't change that much, so the idea is to be on the top of this game with a rom looking exactly like an ios device, based over miui but the main difference would be the theme, keeping the performance of miui with the look of ios, it would beat absolutely everything out there. I know that it would be more than difficult, but more than worth it simultaneously. So instead of developing many roms that may end up as a useless failed project, work on this idea and just imagine it being GSI too, would blow like hell, share your ideas about this if you can be helpful.

Skinning roms to look like IOS was a thing about 10 years ago. It never really took off.

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What's so great about CynagenMod?

What is cynagenmod and what's so "great" about it?
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At the time cyanogen brought a lot of features we now use everyday. Os optimizations apps to sd. Things lf that nature. It is fully opensource and open to anyone to use.
I am fascinated and captivated by the vibrant screen on my epic galaxy s.
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What is cynagenmod and what's so "great" about it?
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The ability to customize the phone, the stability, the speed, the battery life, and it gives phones the the g1/dream froyo which I guess was deemed impossible. It also gives users great support and updates quite frequently.
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The ability to customize the phone, the stability, the speed, the battery life, and it gives phones the the g1/dream froyo which I guess was deemed impossible. It also gives users great support and updates quite frequently.
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Plus it is a large group of people that work collectively together, they along with a few others are the ones that the leading "cutting edge" devs........ they blazed the trail and now all of us and the current devs benefit from their work.
Yea. Since its built from scratch it is faster than any roms here.
The g1 roms were same speed rooted or not
When cm came it was fast! And then a rom based on cm called super d was even faster and then a european rom was fastest!
So what I'm trying to say is, CM is and will be faster than the ROMs built here overclocked or not because the ROMs found here are based on the Official Froyo made by Samsung not a Vanilla Gingerbread rom built from scratch
So I think something built frrom scratch is better than something just modified and themed
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It's built from scratch using the AOSP source, which a lot of ROMs are not (many ROMs are merely modified versions of existing stock ROMs).
It has an extensive amount of customization and flexibility beyond any other ROM I've ever used on an Android device.
I don't mind the ROM I'm running on my Vibrant, but I miss CyanogenMod. Since the CM7 release candidate for the MT4G just hit, I think it's time for me to change it up a bit. I'm tired of my short-range wifi (seriously, less than full bars when I'm only six feet away from my 802.11n router?), non-functional GPS and totally wonky compass, anyway.
I think one of its advantages is the sheer size of the community, if you've ever used various Linux distributions the same concept applies. When your user base expands to the point where you've got dozens if not hundred of loyal users posting guides, reporting bugs, requesting features, and answering new user's questions the community really feeds on itself and builds momentum. Cyanogen is largely responsible for a lot of the momentum in the rom community, and I know it's brought more people to the community than almost any other project.
A lot of things.
The cyanogenmod options alone are worth it - VM Heap, swap, JIT, compcache, et cetera. Granted these things are more relevant to lower end devices. Then there's the native ADW launcher integration. I've never been about to replace the stock launcher with ADW and get the same results.
It's really just its use in practice. Everything works, the interface is very instant/responsive (no jagged animations/scrolling, ever), no force closes, lots of mods/hacks for it from the community, which in general is very scrutinous about performance/stability hangups. Battery life twice what you're use to.
They're the only ROM team I've donated to. I flashed hundreds of roms when I had my Magic (one of the hardware-weakest android phones) but CM is what kept it up to par, giving me an extra generation's life out of it.
I personally love all the features built in, like pulldown menu modifications, as well as pretty much customizing every aspect, NO roms like that exist for our Vibrants..
It is Cyan in color, and mod like the british music scene duh!
hmm... I might have to give cm7 a try once they get it working on the vibrant. They are working on it right? If the manufactures were smart, they would give a pre-release phone to those guys before it's available to the public. Of course, the carriers may not like it. I just purchased my vibrant 3 weeks ago (former iphone 4 user). I tried a few darkyy's roms, then toxic, then finally I stuck with trigger. I'm very satisfied with it - mainly b/c everything works nice and smooth.
I see I'm a bit late but yes, Trigger is awesome. I tried flashing others and I always come back after 2days tops.... For some reason, Trigger runs so much smoother than the other ROMs on my phone... And I have tried 2.2.1(Honestly I dont get the difference) and I am not a fan of the 2.3.3 because most say the GPS doesn't work and I use my GPS at work, yes through my phone(I'm cheap). Plus that is one of my reasons for buying a "smart phone" It has everything at your finger tips, or supposed to at least right. Hope your having fun.,..... BTW, CM is freaking awesome on every device I have seen it on...... I'm actually curious to know why it's not on the Vibrant as an official build but eh..... It will come when it's ready I suppose

Benefits of a Cyanogen 7 or 9 ROM over these already highly tuned custom roms?

Hi,
Could someone please enlighten me to the benefits of a Cyanogen mod over all of these custom ROMS that include a version of Sense (I think that they all do).
I'm referring to Energy, Revolution ROMS.
Would a Cyanogen mod be faster, have more battery life, and be more stable since it is an AOSP (android open source project) based and doesn't have the Sense overhead? Does it have any other secret sauce?
Or are the custom ROMS already pretty much equal to what Cyanogen puts out, with the only difference being Sense?
Thanks!
p.s. Coming from the iphone world, it is interesting that there are no custom ROMs for iOS. There does not appear to be a need since the core OS is pretty stable. While I liked that, I do miss the ability to tweak my phone at the ROM level. In all honesty though, the fact that for the vast majority of Android phones, a custom ROM is a flat out necessity in order to achieve stability and battery life, would probably not fly with most customers. But I'm willing to go through the putting a custom ROM on my phone since it's more like an adventure to me than a hassle.
ICS is ran over AOSP which is the fastest because they include NO bloatware at all.
Sense includes tons of bloatware and Sense just slows down the system.
CyanogenMod is ran over AOSP for the fastest experienced.
Please post your questions in the Q&A section mate, to keep the Development section nice and tidy.
Cheers!
In general, the Cyanogen team added many features to the Android AOSP, in many ways out 'featuring' the cell providers teams. Things like gesture lock are great add-ons that provided functionality with very little in the way of bloat. Additionally, they could tweak things in AOSP that the vendors might not want to touch for fear of breaking thousands upon thousands of users. CM is a boutique ROM.
Apple, to your point, offers no custom ROM's, and this is by design. The whole point of the Apple ecosystem ( and it's success in large part), is due to the fact that they keep it very locked down. This ensures a consistent and predictable environment in which to work, and support costs are kept to a minimum.
Some of us (myself included) don't really enjoy the Sense's of the world, and although they are not all together horrible, I just don't favor some fancy graphics over app functionality. I just generally like the simple clean interfaces. I have to hand it to the Sense team though... there are some pretty nice base apps. BUT, I prefer 3rd party tools most times, and like supporting the little developer if he keeps his project going.
Finally, the computer hacker in me just loves tweaks, optimizations, and tinkering with things. If I can overclock a chip, you can be damn sure I am going to do it!

[Q] MIUI ROM on MEDIAPAD ???

possible MIUI rom ported to MediaPad?
I see MIUI rom on Nexus 7 it's so cool... :crying:
miui nexus 7 ---> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1841208
I've never been a fan of miui roms, they look so much like iphone ui, and all those colored icons and layouts make the device look like a tablet for kids.
if it's even possible to port a rom to the mediapad i prefer something from samsung 7" tablets, the look of touchwiz is really special.
I don't think anyone is working on a MIUI rom. I personally wouldn't want to turn my tablet into a giant phone, since to my knowledge they haven't implemented a tablet UI yet. It seems like there aren't many developers working on ROMs for our device as it is, I say let them work on trying to get HDMI on Jelly Bean instead.
HTC sense from flyer would be great if someone port it
hamdimo said:
I've never been a fan of miui roms, they look so much like iphone ui, and all those colored icons and layouts make the device look like a tablet for kids.
if it's even possible to port a rom to the mediapad i prefer something from samsung 7" tablets, the look of touchwiz is really special.
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There's a very large library of themes to change the colored icons and menus. Even still, I don't think the default looks at all like the iPhone.
I have MIUI on my phone and absolutely love it. Menus, toggles, drop down/pop-ups are so much cleaner. Would be awesome to have on my tablet too.
lilaliend said:
There's a very large library of themes to change the colored icons and menus. Even still, I don't think the default looks at all like the iPhone.
I have MIUI on my phone and absolutely love it. Menus, toggles, drop down/pop-ups are so much cleaner. Would be awesome to have on my tablet too.
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Yeah... me to, would love to se on my mediapad to.
Remember when cyanogenmod team brought life back to all our old phones? i was one of the lucky ones to get my HTC WILDFIRE supported by CM. at the same time MIUI pulled the middle finger and said F**K YOU!! we only develop for the the powerul devices.
what's the point of an after-market ROM when it dosn't support devices with few features.
after all, we are still stuck with two CM and AOKP ROMs that are not qualified enough to be used daily! how can we now start on MIUI?
it's useless
i'm sorry but that's the truth :crying: and i'm sad as F**K seeing all other devices on xda having tens of working ROMs.
we need more developers. i'm not one, but i help testing and do all my best to get something working.
huawei published all ics sources long time ago. It doesn't seems that's not helping, we already have an unlocked bootloader by default... pointless complaint imho, we only need interested developers
hamdimo said:
Remember when cyanogenmod team brought life back to all our old phones? i was one of the lucky ones to get my HTC WILDFIRE supported by CM. at the same time MIUI pulled the middle finger and said F**K YOU!! we only develop for the the powerul devices.
what's the point of an after-market ROM when it dosn't support devices with few features.
after all, we are still stuck with two CM and AOKP ROMs that wrae not qualified enough to be used daily! how can we now start on MIUI?
it's useless as long as Huawei isn't helping
i'm sorry bit that's the truth :crying: and i'm sad as F**K seeing all other devices on xda having tens of working ROMs.
we need more developers. i'm not one but i help testing and do all my best to get somzthing working.
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From my understanding, the T-Mo springboard is a redone Huawei Mediapad. The Springboard here has a very very small userbase, however the mediapad in China (from what I understand) has a much larger base. Given that MIUI is developed in China... I would think that the tablet might get some attention.
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huawei published all ics sources long time ago. It doesn't seems that's not helping, we already have an unlocked bootloader by default... pointless complaint imho, we only need interested developers
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I'll keep complainign till i see a WORKING CUSTOM ROM
I'm trying to make custom miui rom.
but....
lockscreen is not working,
icon-size is very little
i have hot reboots, when i trying to use sdcard/usb

[Q] Jelly Bean 4.2?

Just pre-ordered an HTC One X + from AT&T today. Comes with JB 4.1 I believe. Coming from iPhone (jailbroken of course.) I see there was also a recent announcement, something about 4.2 being released by Google to VOSD. Read some of the improvements in 4.2 and would love to have them. But frankly, I don't want to spend hours futzing with my phone or risk bricking it. On the other hand, I don't want to wait 6 months for HTC to release a 4.2 update.
Without any prior experience can someone throw me a bone. Will there be a 4.2 ROM here I can download that will be stable and how long do you estimate before it is available versus waiting for HTC?
I've heard good things about Sense, but if I consider myself to now be a lifelong Android user, isn't it better to get used to using a vanilla version of the OS instead of using some manufacturer-specific overlay like Sense? So should I install a custom ROM no matter what from that perspective or will I loose to many conveniences/features specific to the phone?
Finally, will I be able to go back to stock HTC ROM (whatever is the most recent version) for warranty/resale purposes if I don't wait for the HTC upgrades?
I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
So in a way, it seems you could consider Sense a package of apps/features, that you might otherwise install over the vanilla OS anyway? I suppose when I think about it, I spent hours to jailbreak and install Cydia apps on my iPhone to customize how the lock screen works, notification works, the spring board works, the wallpapers work, etc. So even though iOS interface is consistent from version to version, I always modify it to my liking - essentially building my own "Sense" for iPhone.
One thing I don't like is bloatware - apps installed that I don't need but can't install. And I'm sure the AT&T One X+ comes with plenty of it? (At least in Windows PC's you can uninstall the stuff.) So my gut is telling me I will still probably end up rooting and going with a custom ROM anyway. I'm mainly looking for stability and consistency for years to come, despite what device I own. Not that learning a new interface "flavor" has a steep learning curve, but it would be nice to "standardize" on one "flavor" be it Sense or CM10 + some specific launcher app, etc etc. To be honest I don't have hours and hours to experiment anymore so it may be best to take what HTC gives me and be done with it. But I know I will crave 4.2 when available just to see what's improved (I've read about it - not groundbreaking but better), so I guess I'll probably cave and give at least one custom ROM a try. Makes the phone more unique too, which is kind of a novelty. But ya, this stuff we are talking about is foreign to probably 90% of the smartphone users out there. So the devices wouldn't sell as well as they do if they had issues or were hard to use out of the box!
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I believe the JB 4.2 was only released yesterday with the sale opening for the Nexus 4/10. I am not really bothered as there are only "cosmetic" updates anyway like this orb pic shooting cam setting and dop down notification.
I got my HOX+ yesterday, after being very happy with the HOX since it was releases in April. And I have to say, so far unlocking/rooting the HOX + is not really necessary or a thing that needs to be done as soon as the batterry has charged to full the very first time you have it in your hands.
HOX+ with HTCs Sense is running very well, smooth as hell. And while I don't like the Sense launcher as it is restricting too much my daily use, I find alternative launcher much better..they provide amazing eye candy. In particular the Apex launcher is worth to have a look at.
But the integration of Sense is the background is just great, Contacts/phone/social media integration is basically perfect, as is the Google calender and in particular Google Now.
There also is a noticable improvement with the sound quality, and sound is mind blowing with the alternative player PowerAmp.
Development will take off for the HOX+ soon, and devs are already on it. Once CWM is up and running I will also unlock/root, if only for for the adblock
I am not a fan of AOSP as it is too stripped down for me. But that is pure personal taste.
Give the development a few weeks, in my opinion the HOX+ is already coming out of the box an amazing piece of technology, and Sense together with JB 4.1.1 is a very good user experience!
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Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
sense UI is the best for me among all the launchers.
i don't mind 4.1.1 vs 4..2 i don't think there's much changes anyways.
I have Jellybean 4.2 on my Nexus 7 and my old GNex. It is really buggy and the UI changes suck. There is battery drain, slow charging, instability and BT is broken. I rather have a stable Jellybean 4.1 and get a stable 4.2 in a few months on my Hox+.
Hellion said:
Just to chime in. I'm coming from 4 years of iPhone (still have my 4S and from the day I turned on the X+, I was in wow factor! Device runs SMOOTH as heck, responsiveness is more than I expected, just overall Great experience overall. That being said, I still want to be able to customize it even more. My iPhone had all the tweaks, theming, etc that truly made it my experience. So, i'm new to the whole "rooting" for Android devices as I'm a Mac guy also, but have a PC on standby waiting for instructions.
I'm really excited to actually take the dive in Android and especially with this particular device!
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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I had a 4S for a time. Customising it was a pain in the arse. I'll be glad if I never see cydia again . You can customise a lot of android without needing to root. But some things like taskbar icons, transparency effects for system apps, bootlogo's, system transition effects ect. You need to be rooted for.
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Is there a verified working root for us ATT users yet? Saw a lot of talk about one which is why I'm asking. If so, any moon steps on how to root? I need it mainly for titanium backup to backup data files too and more tweaks.
Also hope someone can fix the broken Steele headset controls for this dang phone. All u can do is pause and play tracks from your wired or Bluetooth headset. Can't change tracks nor adjust volume from your stereo headset, huge fail for me! At the gym 5 days a week for hours and nothing worse then pulling this link out of my pocket the whole workout to manually change tracks and adjust volume for certain songs.

[Q] Time to think beyond stock?

Ive been using stock roms from the time i got my kenzo. Stock roms are great and so much feature rich. The recent launch of MiUi 10 has many interesting features and it has made me think if I should go back to MiUi just for the visual experience. I mean user experience is also important right. What do you guys feel?
Quite a subjective question. I only use miui like a week. I don't the visuals nor the amount of crapware it has.
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Quite a subjective question. I only use miui like a week. I don't the visuals nor the amount of crapware it has.
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Agree, few like MIUI and few like me hate it from the core of the heart. I kept my phone in drawer for 14 days until I was able to unlock the bootloader. I can't stand MIUI, I can still use buggy AOSP rom instead of stable MIUI.
vgpranav said:
Ive been using stock roms from the time i got my kenzo. Stock roms are great and so much feature rich. The recent launch of MiUi 10 has many interesting features and it has made me think if I should go back to MiUi just for the visual experience. I mean user experience is also important right. What do you guys feel?
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Miui gives u good features. Good camera quality, audio experience, battery life too. It also has inbuilt call recorder. But it has stock gapps which u may not use all and consider it as unnecessary bloat.
Even if it has so many features people mostly prefer higher android version and go with custom roms. Coz it has better performance, security and new innovative features and much improved core structure.
As mentioned before, I've never seen anyone neutral about miui. This ROM is made and optimized for xiaomi devices and there are many features only miui can give compared to others. The convenience and the visual experience, the smoothness of miui kept me going back to it again and again - Epic ROM Miui9 was the best build I've tried and used for a 6-8 months. Now I use oreo RR, because this is now on a level to compete user experience with miui... I mean this was... before miui 10.
Now I really hope that both, android P and miui 10 will be ported to this device, and I can try both before decide. I love my oreo setup now, but this is getting boring after months of use...
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As mentioned before, I've never seen anyone neutral about miui. This ROM is made and optimized for xiaomi devices and there are many features only miui can give compared to others. The convenience and the visual experience, the smoothness of miui kept me going back to it again and again - Epic ROM Miui9 was the best build I've tried and used for a 6-8 months. Now I use oreo RR, because this is now on a level to compete user experience with miui... I mean this was... before miui 10.
Now I really hope that both, android P and miui 10 will be ported to this device, and I can try both before decide. I love my oreo setup now, but this is getting boring after months of use...
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Its the same thing with me.. Oreo setup with AEx rom is cool bt its getting boring now and all stock roms have more or less the same features. Miui 10 videos are too tempting to give a try wen its out.

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