Tab 7+5G and no factory NFC - Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 / S7 Plus Questions & Answer

Hi all, as we know the Tab7+5G has no NFC (Near Field Communication) hardware or software/firmware installed
by Samsung, while I know this is not a mobile phone it has everything else that a mobile phone can do, so
I don't understand why Samsung would leave off such a cheap production add on, maybe something to do
with their flat magnetic Keyboard/Cover installation to the back of S7 Tablet?
Anyway, for the expert members (I have looked around and googled) is there anyway I can
install an aftermarket removable NFC Dongle into USB C port and perhaps run an appropriate
App to activate so I can get working NFC on this S7 Tablet, or is it impossible or non-existent.
Thanks from this old guy, sorry to ask such a question but I cant find clear answers.

Yes, it's true, this tab lacks NFC. When I bought it, I just assumed that it had it, and was surprised that it doesn't.
It also doesn't have a proximity sensor, which is more important to me, but not a deal breaker.
Another thing that really ****ing peeves me is that you can't get the 256/500GB variant's if you also want LTE/5g. For some retarded reason, they restricted the carrier versions to 128gb only. Why can't I have 500GB AND 5g compatibility in the same tab? The WiFi only/carrier version's of the Tab S7+ are exactly the same size, there's no technical reason why the carrier versions can't have the larger sizes too.
Who are we lowly users to question the design decisions of Samsung?

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Tv remote control

*update, the conclusion is that the current software is useless and as of the ppc6800 and the following HTC models, the IRDA port is either crap or non-existent, for that reason I am building a powered, universal adapter to turn any phone into a remote*
hello. first off, yes I know there are old threads about this, but they are dead and had a different take on this topic. I am looking to know if anyone has gotten any tv remote control software working on the mogul. I don't care about the distance so I dont want to hear about how the mogul is ill-equipped to do this, I just want to know what software works as I will use\make a IR repeater\booster that will give me all the range I need.
I have tried the following software
1-PDAWin tv remote controller simply crashes when I press any button
2- noviiRemote is not compatible with our IR
3- RemoteControl II v.2.12 stays it is incompatible with our processor and for that reason, it turns off the IR access... but the rest of the software works ??? odd
4- UniversalRemoteCE 4.0 Tested by wagonis, froze his phone with every try
5- Total Remote does not work, freezes when I try to record a signal.
Untested
6- UltraMote
can't find
7- VITO remote
so to recap. Has anyone found a working software? I will give a free IR booster\repeater to anyone who can point me to a proper and working programmable universal remote control software that works over IR and not the web (or even better, anyone who can get PDAWin tv remote working )
thanks.
Honestly, I've tried 4 different softwares from that list and none worked, if anything they kept crashing my phone...so I gave up before I caused any damage to my phone. If you figure out which one works though, please list it, I'd like to know and try it.
can I know which was teh 4th that did not work so I can update my list please?
UniversalRemoteCE 4.0 froze up my phone every time I tried to use it
Many have tried. I am pretty sure no one has succeeded.
in my best Airplane - The Movie voice
"good luck, we're all counting on you"
my best suggestion is to buy an older known compatible phone with stronger irda
i looked into it a bit ago and came up with a good solution and found two of the phones on ebay for $20...but never bought them
i know it would be convenient to use our daily cell for this feature...but its an uphill battle
dont give up...lol
double post
Since the whole software thing does not seem to work... I am going to set out on making my own! My goal is to make a universal-universal remote app; even cross-platform, and the way I will do this is with external hardware. Since most new phones do not have a good IR port, I will make an external IR port that plugs into phones, mark my words!
I will keep people up to date on this
I'll subscribe to this thread to keep tabs on this. Good luck.
Well I am very excited to say that things are moving along nicely. Unfortunately, my local electronics supply shop (that is actually worth going to) is closed during weekends since its a small business who's main clients are engineering students during the year . This means that My full prototype (with range booster) will have to wait, but the basic premise is working, and, depending on my schedule, I should have a working prototype soon. I have already gotten in contact with a few chinese companies to compare the price of production of the modules.
well, the project is coming along well, but I need some input from the community. 1 is a note, 2 is the important question.
1- the software will be open source. The exact format still has to be determined, but the main lead right now is java so that i can be universal for all phones (except the Iphone that will need its own app).
2- Should it be powered or not? The module is coming along well, but I need some input. If it is powered, I have to make the tough decision between having the ext-usb plug sticking out on the edge of the board, meaning you have a 9v battery dangling from your phone or a short cable (1-2 feet) that plugs in the ext-usb port and the module rests next to you. What is the best route for this? (Ideally I would love bluetooth, but I do not have the electronic know-how for this)
julienrl said:
well, the project is coming along well, but I need some input from the community. 1 is a note, 2 is the important question.
1- the software will be open source. The exact format still has to be determined, but the main lead right now is java so that i can be universal for all phones (except the Iphone that will need its own app).
2- Should it be powered or not? The module is coming along well, but I need some input. If it is powered, I have to make the tough decision between having the ext-usb plug sticking out on the edge of the board, meaning you have a 9v battery dangling from your phone or a short cable (1-2 feet) that plugs in the ext-usb port and the module rests next to you. What is the best route for this? (Ideally I would love bluetooth, but I do not have the electronic know-how for this)
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Why not make all? Powered and not. Corded and not. Are you encasing the electronics? If just for the Mogul how 'bout a phone case type add on putting the IR port on the right end of the phone while you're at it so we don't have to rotate our screens? That being said, with the Mogul getting dated, how 'bout for newer phones lacking IR ports all together like the touch pro and touch pro 2? Oh, maybe someone could help you out with bluetooth.
Well its not just for the mogul, it is going to work universally for all HTC phones and will be one little tweak away from working with other phones.
As far as corded or not, I think I will make it non corded and then you can just add it. It will cost a few cents extra but save alot on production costs of 2 different modules (if I go with powered, unpowered can easily be both).
The reason I am not doing powered and unpowered is that the powered requires a case and a battery and starts getting a little big (the size of half a thumb approximately), while the unpowered one is about 0.5mmx0.5mm. Also, making the powered one requires a much greater production cost as it would be made in china because if I make it myself, the powered one would be about 4 inches by 2 inches as I can't make the small traces myself, many of the parts are hard to come by and suftace mount is hard to do.
The reason that none of the programs work is because they require raw IR port access, not the IRDA protocol.
dj13241 said:
The reason that none of the programs work is because they require raw IR port access, not the IRDA protocol.
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Thats ok, this is a hardware\software combination so the IR will work.
I think I love you man. I've been looking for this since before I got my Mogul in my hands.
Manicmoguladdict said:
I think I love you man. I've been looking for this since before I got my Mogul in my hands.
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lol I hear ya. Everything is being delayed because the store I usually go to was selling IR LEDs for 4 bucks and they don't specify voltage so I had to order some online. I just need to get that stupid LED so that I can be done with the hardware and get working on the software.
I am still waiting on those diodes. I bought molding and casting material so that our IR emitters will look better than a loose set or components soldered on an extusb port
Anyone going to china who can buy ExtUSB ports for 50 cents with the breakout port? I got that quote from a company but I don't like sending unsecured payments and 10$ per extusb port + breakout board is going to make it pretty expensive for us. If so, let me know, I would like to buy a batch.
thanks.
since our device will work on many phones, instead of creating threads in every forum of every device, we decided to opt for a twitter account where we will keep everyone up to date on this project.
Spread the word!
http://twitter.com/wrctweets
Found this thread searching for a Bluetooth to IR converter, so I could use my Rhodium as a universal remote.
I was wondering... since all modern smartphones have Bluetooth, why not make a powered BT -> IR converter, which uses the HID standard? Since most phones have a HID application already (my old SE K750i could be used to control my desktop computer with HID), you don't need a lot of development on the phones itself. You'd need a way to program the conversion table (key 5 -> send PLAY IR sequence), I guess. You could then have a simple HID remote on simple phones or a full blown custom skinnable remote on a WVGA smartphone.
It would really be nice to have a Philips Pronto (or similar) universal remote where you can operate all sorts of equipment.
unfortunately, working with bluetooth at that level would be well beyond my expertise and bring the cost up $$$$$ because of the low volume of production. Also, making the drivers for this would be much harder and way to phone-specific, killing the intent of this device. Also, the way this works, it should work with any standard IR device.
I have a p4000 and am upgrading to a touch pro2, when I upgrade again in 2 years, I don't want to have to start the project over .
Finally, bluetooth device = more components = bulkier and = batteries!
I am getting back home late tonight and I will get back to work on the project (got the LEDs the day I was leaving).
ps. I do appreciate all feedback and comments.
thank you
julienrl said:
unfortunately, working with bluetooth at that level would be well beyond my expertise and bring the cost up $$$$$ because of the low volume of production. Also, making the drivers for this would be much harder and way to phone-specific, killing the intent of this device. Also, the way this works, it should work with any standard IR device.
I have a p4000 and am upgrading to a touch pro2, when I upgrade again in 2 years, I don't want to have to start the project over .
Finally, bluetooth device = more components = bulkier and = batteries!
I am getting back home late tonight and I will get back to work on the project (got the LEDs the day I was leaving).
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sorry for being off topic, but do you know when the touch pro 2 is coming out in Canada ? And who's gonna get it telus, roger, fido or bell ?? (hope this is coming to Telus)
hehe, its out with telus waiting for mine in the mail now!
Inbound Ir
Will your Module accept inbound ir transfer? I am using a polar hr monitor that uses ir to download files to my phone. I've been looking for an upgrade option with ir without success. If your module will work, this is great news. Keep up the good work.

(Work in Progress)NFC for all SGS2

Hi guys,
Yesterday I was thinking about how to enable the NFC sgs2 not have this technology, so I thought that using bluetooth or wifi direct you might also enable nfc
Android is not a developer so I need someone who can create a program that "hijack"the signals that are transmitted via the nfc nfc chip to an external device via bluetooth or wifi direct, then I did this I will create a hardware device composed of the NFC chip and a receiver / transmitter bluetooth or wifi direct to hide behind the battery, you will be able to receive the signal and then sending it to the NFC chip.
Does anyone know how to help me?, I am completely new in the Android paronama.
I think nfc is a magnetic signal, very different from BT, or wifi, so I think this idea would take a whole notha level of brilliance to actual make happen
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
It should be possible in the future to use NFC with an SD-Card that has NFC integrated. I think a diy is fun, but possible more expensive due to your bt solution.
are we sure nfc is not inside first sgs2 ? how to check ? Maybe it can be activated in few times.....
NFC is very similar to wifi, and also by bluetooth it to communicate using a wireless frequency.
however, what is the story of the NFC in the sd card?
I really don't think its worth the effort involved. Reminds me of someone I know who spent thousands trying to make his bmw 318 into an m3. When he finished, it looked ****e, didn't work properly and could have bought an actual M3 with the money he spent. Sorry to put a downer on this.
There is no NFC in the Sgs2. Als new Sgs2 has been announced with tiny improvements and NFC os included.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SII with XDA Premium
You would be better with SIM based NFC tbh... You can't just randomly say "let's use wifi/bluetooth instead of NFC, as they both work on radio waves of some sort"
I still want to use the wifi / bluetooth nfc only to transfer the signal to an external hardware that transmits, via the receiver wifi / bluetooth, nfc signal to a transmitter.
the idea and the hardware is easy to do, but the software ... I do not know, but I think it's tough.
at least someone can tell me of the nfc in the SD card?
Just buy an nfc enabled phone if you want it that badly. Trust me, trying to do a DIY job will bea waste of your time and money and will all end in tears. LOL.
i'm not sure if it's asking this'd be dumb but how would i understand if i got nfc şn my phone? i bought my sgs2 yesterday but it's still grey market here in Turkey so i can't be sure if i got nfc or not..
NFC sticker can make SGS2 NFC enabled..
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/26/google-wallet-mobile-payment-service-google-offers-announced/
Enjoy
Aldideos said:
Hi guys,
Yesterday I was thinking about how to enable the NFC sgs2 not have this technology, so I thought that using bluetooth or wifi direct you might also enable nfc
Android is not a developer so I need someone who can create a program that "hijack"the signals that are transmitted via the nfc nfc chip to an external device via bluetooth or wifi direct, then I did this I will create a hardware device composed of the NFC chip and a receiver / transmitter bluetooth or wifi direct to hide behind the battery, you will be able to receive the signal and then sending it to the NFC chip.
Does anyone know how to help me?, I am completely new in the Android paronama.
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Wow, it's amazing how many people post without reading the first post where OP clearly states he wants to create a device that reads NFC and then transmits it to the phone via bluetooth or wifi :
soraxd said:
I think nfc is a magnetic signal, very different from BT, or wifi, so I think this idea would take a whole notha level of brilliance to actual make happen
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA App
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Aldideos said:
NFC is very similar to wifi, and also by bluetooth it to communicate using a wireless frequency.
however, what is the story of the NFC in the sd card?
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pulser_g2 said:
You would be better with SIM based NFC tbh... You can't just randomly say "let's use wifi/bluetooth instead of NFC, as they both work on radio waves of some sort"
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Also, using an NFC sticker is not the same : It will enable you to use your phone as a payment or transport card, but it won't allow your phone to actually READ NFC tags and display some information, nor REWRITE NFC tags.
Anyway, I think it's a good idea but probably not worth your time and money with NFC enabled Galaxy S2 coming in a few weeks or months. Besides, even if my SGS2 doesn't have NFC, I'll probably have a new phone in 18 months or so when NFC becomes really useful.
BlueScreenJunky said:
Anyway, I think it's a good idea but probably not worth your time and money with NFC enabled Galaxy S2 coming in a few weeks or months. Besides, even if my SGS2 doesn't have NFC, I'll probably have a new phone in 18 months or so when NFC becomes really useful.
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Agreed here. Surely the most used function of NFC will be for payments until other phones catch up, and this is accomplished by a sticker anyway?
I'm all for modding and hacking, obviously, but I feel that it may just be needless in this case...
What about /dev/pn544?
Just a thought
Odia said:
What about /dev/pn544?
Just a thought
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Hehehe.
Anyone got the userspace nfc stuff, either from korean model, or the nexus s? That chip is the same as in the N S
not every model have the NFC chip on them samsung did say that some already do have it and they just need a software upgrade to enable it but i know none of the UK models have a NFC chip. Samsung also said that the one with it are slightly thicker phones than the ones with out it...
microsd nfc cards
Didn't someone mention here that Samsung had stated NFC was on the battery in enabled models.
Could it be one of the options here http://smartsim.info/products.html
Item 2 - special battery combined with carrier provided sim could mean even reader mode is possible retrospectively for a fairly nominal charge
At least for normal batteries. I now have 2 std 1650 batteries, a mugen 3200 and eyes on the new 2000 mAh options . Yikes.
Great News for the normal SGS 2 Users.

[Q] How to make my S3 work with my Head unit

Hello there!
I'm trying to make my S3 interact with my Pioneer Avic-F700BT. It's an older HU (2009), and does not support BT streaming. It appears unable to read the S3 via USB due to lack of UMS on the S3. It worked flawlessly on my iPhone 4, but that doesn't matter at this point.
Right now, I'm investigating the use of the Infuse 4G mount + line out into the deck, but I'm looking to see if anyone is aware of any alternatives. I have not rooted the phone yet out of fear and inexperience.
Ideally, I'd like to be able to control the phone from the HU, but it's not a must. Another alternative is to just go and buy an ipod touch and leave it in my car, but it's a much more expensive option.
Truthfully, I have the i747 (Canada), but I couldn't find a different subforum for it, so I hope that I'll be accepted and loved here.
Thanks!

Mini PCI-E storage

Hi,
I've just acquired a 16GB WiFi only TPT, and my first thought was I'd stick a 3G modem in it, but I understand from the model number that its lacking the various antenna connectors to make this possible.
I'd still like to put the slot to use though. I've been looking at storage options, and I've seen a few different devices. One was an SSD (I gather that if anything was going to work it would ahve to be PATA, not mSATA, which is the same physical connector).
I've found various examples on eBay (sorry, can't post links, but a search for " ebay mini pcie PATA SSD " will give you a clue.
Another option I'd considered was a SD-card adapter, (again, can't link to it, but " ebay mini pcie sd card " should get you there).
There are 2 possible issues
1) physical space, I don't know what thickness of the 3g modules are, and whether either of the above would fit
2) drivers - although the SSDs in particular, should be pretty plain vanilla devices, whether there is support in the kernel for them remains to be seen.
Has anyone tried / considered something like this? Plan B is hunt around for a 3rd party 3G antenna set, but I haven't investigated this yet.
cheers,
Hugh
hughtc said:
Hi,
There are 2 possible issues
1) physical space, I don't know what thickness of the 3g modules are, and whether either of the above would fit
2) drivers - although the SSDs in particular, should be pretty plain vanilla devices, whether there is support in the kernel for them remains to be seen.
h
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I think the first one wount be an issue. the second should not be an issue, because most of these drivers should be in android. but i cant promise!
in any case you could create your own kernel with the driver inside.
i would give it a try, as long as its not too expensive.

Enough of Google for me.

I'm really pissed of with Google, it seems that their ways to stop us from using what they doesn't want is by killing what we use...
My Nexus 5X already died into the bootloop issue, and today I've just seen that the Nexus 6P is having the exact same issue, which they say as a faulty hardware (Really? 2 completely different brands, with the EXACT SAME ISSUE? You must to be kidding me..).
This is not the first time that Google is killing what we use.
I'm a user of Miracast technology, since marshmallow it wasn't present, but you could activate via a build.prop tweak if you are rooted, in nougat they introduced a bug (yes, intentionally), that the phone will crash If you this tweak and connect to the tv, forcing me to buy their Chromecast 2.
This is not the only thing, have you ever wondered why the hell it doesn't has QI charging? To make us to use their "Fast charging USB C solution..
The Nexus 6 has also had something similar with it's notification LED, which can be activated only If rooted..
Now I really don't know what to do, I'm thinking of downgrading to Marshmallow before my phone got into bootloop, and not having another paper weight on my desk.
The only thing i can assure is that my next phone will be an Galaxy S8, and not another Google Crap phone.
rcoliveirajr said:
I'm really pissed of with Google, it seems that their ways to stop us from using what they doesn't want is by killing what we use...
My Nexus 5X already died into the bootloop issue, and today I've just seen that the Nexus 6P is having the exact same issue, which they say as a faulty hardware (Really? 2 completely different brands, with the EXACT SAME ISSUE? You must to be kidding me..).
This is not the first time that Google is killing what we use.
I'm a user of Miracast technology, since marshmallow it wasn't present, but you could activate via a build.prop tweak if you are rooted, in nougat they introduced a bug (yes, intentionally), that the phone will crash If you this tweak and connect to the tv, forcing me to buy their Chromecast 2.
This is not the only thing, have you ever wondered why the hell it doesn't has QI charging? To make us to use their "Fast charging USB C solution..
The Nexus 6 has also had something similar with it's notification LED, which can be activated only If rooted..
Now I really don't know what to do, I'm thinking of downgrading to Marshmallow before my phone got into bootloop, and not having another paper weight on my desk.
The only thing i can assure is that my next phone will be an Galaxy S8, and not another Google Crap phone.
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So that's why Miracast no longer works. ?
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
I agree. It is getting ridiculous. All of the reasons we love the Nexus line are becoming blurry. Miracast is a huge one. Smart tv, Xbox One, and now I have to have a damn Chromecast as well. I'm starting to feel like Apple users must feel. Poor souls.
I don't understand. My Miracast works perfectly fine with Panasonic TVs and LG.
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I don't understand. My Miracast works perfectly fine with Panasonic TVs and LG.
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Are you on stock 7.1? Also did you enabled in build.prop and it worked?
My device won't work with my Samsung TV JS7200 or Windows 10 Miracast receiver.
rcoliveirajr said:
Are you on stock 7.1? Also did you enabled in build.prop and it worked?
My device won't work with my Samsung TV JS7200 or Windows 10 Miracast receiver.
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I am on stock 7.0.1 (latest). I didn't change anything in build.prop. I just go to Settings -> Display -> Cast
I've read online that it works with older Miracast (first, second gen) TVs. For e.g. it works with Roku 3 but not 4.
rcoliveirajr said:
This is not the only thing, have you ever wondered why the hell it doesn't has QI charging? To make us to use their "Fast charging USB C solution..
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Given that the 6P has a metal build and that no other metal phones(from the top of my head) have Qi charging, I would assume it was due to the the metal build. And in regards to saying that they are just trying to sell "Fast Charging USB C solution", wouldn't you think that they would generate more revenue from implementing a convenient way to charge a phone?
Based on your opinion and what you had said, it sounds like the S8 is the perfect device for you. It's so great to have a plethora of device choices!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Given that the 6P has a metal build and that no other metal phones(from the top of my head) have Qi charging, I would assume it was due to the the metal build. And in regards to saying that they are just trying to sell "Fast Charging USB C solution", wouldn't you think that they would generate more revenue from implementing a convenient way to charge a phone?
Based on your opinion and what you had said, it sounds like the S8 is the perfect device for you. It's so great to have a plethora of device choices!
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
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Well, my dead Nexus 5X has a plastic body and Google removed QI Charger from it too, something I found really useful, which I was using since Nexus 4 and had to stop on the new ones..
mihovil13 said:
I am on stock 7.0.1 (latest). I didn't change anything in build.prop. I just go to Settings -> Display -> Cast
I've read online that it works with older Miracast (first, second gen) TVs. For e.g. it works with Roku 3 but not 4.
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Oh, didn't know that.
But I totally understand you.
Google played a "good guy" comparing to Apple for a few years now, and I really saw this coming. Basically they're just the same. Profit, profit, profit.
You want to cast? Buy a Chromecast.
I really wouldn't be surprised if their Project Fi gains success, and they decide to lock their future devices to their own network.
Nokia years ago was really something else, but it was in the way of the American capitalism so they had to remove it from their perfect market picture.
mihovil13 said:
I am on stock 7.0.1 (latest). I didn't change anything in build.prop. I just go to Settings -> Display -> Cast
I've read online that it works with older Miracast (first, second gen) TVs. For e.g. it works with Roku 3 but not 4.
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I can confirm that miracast works on my Roku 3. I am stock 7.1.1. not rooted.

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