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This happens only on the bottom right of the screen, if I press down with a little bit of pressure you can see the LCD screen distort, This occurred on my 1st device (requested a replacement) the replacement does the same exact thing in the same exact area.
So is this just a overall defect with the device (Since it's present on more than 1 device I received) or something with just a bad batch?
To test:
Open up the browser, on a white screen landscape mode, just use some pressure with ur finger press on the screen and the lcd will distort/wave into blue-ish color. Do the same test around you will see that 1 side will always have this effect but the other 3 won't.
The old device this issue was far worse than the new one. Only other note to make.
No issue here
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Nyxagamemnon said:
Okay,
This happens only on the bottom right of the screen, if I press down with a little bit of pressure you can see the LCD screen distort, This occurred on my 1st device (requested a replacement) the replacement does the same exact thing in the same exact area.
So is this just a overall defect with the device (Since it's present on more than 1 device I received) or something with just a bad batch?
To test:
Open up the browser, on a white screen landscape mode, just use some pressure with ur finger press on the screen and the lcd will distort/wave into blue-ish color. Do the same test around you will see that 1 side will always have this effect but the other 3 won't.
The old device this issue was far worse than the new one. Only other note to make.
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That's bad.. but it wont cause any issues if you don't press on the screen really hard
Well I'm exchanging the second device as well.
Will keep going round and round until one without a defect lands in my hand.
On my Galaxy note 2 no matter how hard I press nothing. DNA little pressure it begins, the 1st unit was very easy to cause the ripple effect, but the second unit was much harder maybe 3rd times the charm.
Well 3rd device does it as well so its an inherent trait of the product.
It sounds to me like the screen is set in tilted a little. A lot of HTC phones have this, I've noticed. Almost all the replacements I had on my rezound you can clearly see the screen set wrong from the light leakage on the bottom of the panel. Actually, I just pressed the bottom right* corner of my screen (the part that's higher) and it actually does the same thing but it's barely noticeable though on my rezound and only on darker colors.
Well the DNA is going back this is basically un acceptable to me. 3 units all of them do it, if you lightly press on the screen it will ripple.
The funny thing is I can feel the difference when you press down on the left side of the device it's much stronger than on the bottom right.
This is definitely not an issue on my phone. My One X had this issue. (coupled with the light bleed from bottom ). Looks like some DNAs are affected by same issue.
But its definitely not common thing. The second DNA I had ordered for a friend was received yesterday and both are perfect with no sign of any such screen ripple issue. Might be the case of bad batch at particular store.
No issue here on my phone. No offense, but it sounds like you are looking for a reason to switch phones. You either have extremely bad luck to get three defective phones, or you are trying too hard to find something wrong.
It happens to me when you press directly in the middle of the phone. Although it's not an issue for me, since the amount needed to press to see it would not be used on the phone on a regular day.
I'm going to try a diffrent source. Yes all the devices have this issue.
I'm going to post a video as well.
Mine does this as well, turns like a purplish color like if you pressed hard on an lcd tv. It hasnt bothered me at all and i love the phone but just wanted to say i have it too
All of the devices have this effect.
My HTC One X has this thingy but you have to press hard...which is not what's intended with a capacitive screen, the problem is that the more the phones are slim and the more screens are fragile, just touch the screen not press it
Not all devices have it but the dna def does have it.
It's one of those features that I loved as soon as I heard about it in the original Moto X. I thought "that's real, useful, innovation." But the implementation in the 6P is poop. I can't reliably get the thing to work at all. As in, it works with movement, but I can't tell you how to reliably set it off. At all.
One other thing I've noticed is the screen is fully woken up by (I think) any touch on the screen when Active Display is on. Which seems very wasteful.
I'm guessing this is purely software because the sensors in the 6P are more than up to the task. I would also think it would be nice to have a setting to simply use the power button to, in essence, half wake the screen the way Active Display does. Then tapping on the notification will perform as normal.
Sound off if these issues are limited to just me. I actually hope they are.
Seems to work pretty well for me, i wouldn't say 100% but most times i pick up the phone, or take it out of my pocket.. it lights up
Laying down flat, picking up the device shows info.
Laying down flat, a little twist shows info.
Picking it up seems more reliable, but the nudge left or right when flat needs to be a decent "nudge". Otherwise it would be switching on constantly, which would be a waste.
And waking when touching any part of the screen when adisplay is showing is normal behavior.
Maybe when development moves ahead we'll have more control over it's behavior. I can see devs having fun with this feature.
+1 for the OP. I've been using the phone about a full day now and I've seen the active display like maybe 3 times, never when it really made any sense. Bummer.
Owned my phone less than 24hrs, installed a screen protector before using the phone. Ambient display want really working. I took the glass screen protector off, ambient display has come back. I'm wondering if the sensor is that sensitive.
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It's one of those features that I loved as soon as I heard about it in the original Moto X. I thought "that's real, useful, innovation." But the implementation in the 6P is poop. I can't reliably get the thing to work at all. As in, it works with movement, but I can't tell you how to reliably set it off. At all.
One other thing I've noticed is the screen is fully woken up by (I think) any touch on the screen when Active Display is on. Which seems very wasteful.
I'm guessing this is purely software because the sensors in the 6P are more than up to the task. I would also think it would be nice to have a setting to simply use the power button to, in essence, half wake the screen the way Active Display does. Then tapping on the notification will perform as normal.
Sound off if these issues are limited to just me. I actually hope they are.
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The touch layer and the actual display are 2 different pieces of hardware, you probably can't limit what portions of the touch layer are active, it's either on or off but that has nothing to do with what pixels are turned on. Hope that helps.
Just turned it on to test. Seems to light up when its supposed to. Turned it back off because I use android wear and don't need it.
My switching from Active Display (Moto X 2013) to Ambient Display (Nexus 6) was tough, but I got used to it. My 6p seems to not work as well or the same as my N6 did.
In the morning if I wake up before my alarm I would grab my N6 to activate the Ambient Display and see the clock, as well as my notifications (I get the weather in the morning) to see if there was anything urgent (text from a coworker, etc).
With my 6p when I pick it up, nothing seems to happen, or at least not as quickly as it did with my N6. N6 would show it on almost any movement, but the 6p requires it to be fully picked up all the way and almost vertical before it shows anything. Not sure if this is gyro or software related. If I pick it up from flat and rotate 90 degrees right (like it would be if it was sitting next to my bed), effectively making it vertical in landscape mode) nothing happens. If I hold it vertical in portrait, it shows me.
Just something to get used to, I guess.
Active display is rubbish on the 6P lol. That's coming from a user BTW, its just not reliable.
I agree with OP. I sat phone beside me and noticed it would light up when I got a new message. Then a few seconds after, without touching or moving it, it would light up again (no new anything happened), then it would light up again. Not sure what's waking it up, but quite annoying. Should absolutely be a software fix though.
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I agree with OP. I sat phone beside me and noticed it would light up when I got a new message. Then a few seconds after, without touching or moving it, it would light up again (no new anything happened), then it would light up again. Not sure what's waking it up, but quite annoying. Should absolutely be a software fix though.
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This is one thing that is reliable for me! Lol. When a notification comes through, it will activate once, then turn off, then activate again shortly after. I'm not sure if it's mean to do this or not, but at least it's reliable.
I should make it clear though that in my short time with the device, it is a definite top quality phone. The Active Display just seems to be, for me at least, a noticeable deviation from the very high bar set by the rest of the device. I did read other reviewers with issues, but then, how much faith can you put in a 48 hour review. I've had mine for almost a week and still feel like I'm just getting to know it.
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The touch layer and the actual display are 2 different pieces of hardware, you probably can't limit what portions of the touch layer are active, it's either on or off but that has nothing to do with what pixels are turned on. Hope that helps.
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True-ish. It is indeed possible to have a software solution that ignores certain touch events even though the hardware layer will consistently recognise touch events as long as the touch layer is active. If the Active Display becomes just another UI, then the notification icons/regions become touch targets and the rest of the screen can be written in software to not be touch targets and thus not respond to touch inputs.
I'm not sure what this method would look like in practice. So for example, when the Active Display has been activated, would there be a way to fully activate the screen by a touch method without touching a notification? Maybe a special region at the bottom of the screen? No idea. Just thinking out loud.
Coming from Active Display on the Droid Maxx, Ambient Display is very disappointing and actually leads to my emergency dialer engaging sometimes when the phone is in the pocket of looser pants. But it doesn't display when I would like it to, with just a nudge, like the Motorola implementation.
I've messed around with my dad's phone. He has the Moto X as well. I can literally just wave my hand in front of the screen and it comes on. I thought that was awesome. This phone does seem a bit inconvenient if I just want to quickly get the time or my notifications. Then again that's why I have a (smart)watch. Not sure where I'm going with this.
Good talk....
I've figured it out! Feeling quite pleased with myself.
Based on the responses of others, I tried using it slightly differently. Now, I figured out two instances which regularly and reliably activate the Active Display.
The first is when the phone is flat on a surface, if I pick it up to be perpendicular to the floor, either portrait or landscape seems fine, it will activate. I believe this actually works from almost any starting point as long as the end point is the phone being upright and vertical.
The second is with it again starting flat on the table. Holding it by the bottom of the phone, moving it semi-quickly across the table, only about 5 cm seems needed, and then stopping quickly. This is a strange one which I only found when I bumped it into something on the table. I have a case so was not bothered testing this repeatedly.
I know correct my first statement. The feature is not poop. Well, not total poop. There are other instances that will activate it but I don't know how to do them reproducibly. If that's a word.
Hope this helps someone.
RoyJ said:
I've messed around with my dad's phone. He has the Moto X as well. I can literally just wave my hand in front of the screen and it comes on. I thought that was awesome. This phone does seem a bit inconvenient if I just want to quickly get the time or my notifications. Then again that's why I have a (smart)watch. Not sure where I'm going with this.
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Thats a pretty nifty idea, if its flat... give it a bit of " These aren't the droids you're looking for" to wake the screen.
Surely cant be that hard to do.........
..... i cant do it
My active display does nothing. Doesn't activate anything even shaking the phone.
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Stretlow said:
Thats a pretty nifty idea, if its flat... give it a bit of " These aren't the droids you're looking for" to wake the screen.
Surely cant be that hard to do.........
..... i cant do it
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The Moto X (2014 and after) does it as it has other sensors on the front, the 6P doesn't. However, the Moto X (2013) did it with Kitkat as it used the proximity sensor, which was less reliable but still effective, but this was removed in Lollipop. To be fair, ambient display doesn't work nearly as well as Moto's active display. I bet a dev could activate it via proximity sensor, should people want it enough.
Soulfulgrey said:
I've figured it out! Feeling quite pleased with myself.
Based on the responses of others, I tried using it slightly differently. Now, I figured out two instances which regularly and reliably activate the Active Display.
The first is when the phone is flat on a surface, if I pick it up to be perpendicular to the floor, either portrait or landscape seems fine, it will activate. I believe this actually works from almost any starting point as long as the end point is the phone being upright and vertical.
The second is with it again starting flat on the table. Holding it by the bottom of the phone, moving it semi-quickly across the table, only about 5 cm seems needed, and then stopping quickly. This is a strange one which I only found when I bumped it into something on the table. I have a case so was not bothered testing this repeatedly.
I know correct my first statement. The feature is not poop. Well, not total poop. There are other instances that will activate it but I don't know how to do them reproducibly. If that's a word.
Hope this helps someone.
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When laying flat - give it a quick twist - about 45 degrees - and back again.
I see most don't agree with the implementation, but think about it. If it was more sensitive, it would be waking all the time. That's definitely less battery efficient.
Once you get used to it, it's not bad at all, and I can see devs adding more control over how it works - like a sensitivity setting.
Hint hint devs!
Phazmos said:
When laying flat - give it a quick twist - about 45 degrees - and back again.
I see most don't agree with the implementation, but think about it. If it was more sensitive, it would be waking all the time. That's definitely less battery efficient.
Once you get used to it, it's not bad at all, and I can see devs adding more control over how it works - like a sensitivity setting.
Hint hint devs!
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Tbh, the more I use it, the more I understand why it has this implementation and you are right, there would probably be a battery burden to make it more sensitive. I just wish they could have advertised it. Maybe a deep dive YouTube video or something.
Here's a light review of the phone from Clove:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbFeUoVyT9Q&feature=youtu.be
Preorders up today as well.
Unboxing vid. Looks like they went with a nicer packaging this time.
VS. an iPhone 6 vid
VS. the Z5 Compact vid
i have bought yesterday the white x compact. unfortunately its a bit larger than the z3c. well im a bit disappointed but not because of the sd 650. the performance is quite good. its definately responsive and quick for a compact. but the bezel on the bottom is bigger than at the top. looks like a design fail. vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept. maybe for some people a minor thing but for me when i got used to my z3c this not ok. the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap. dust and dirt wil again find a nice place there. this was the reason why i have replaced my white z3c with a black one after the motherboard was dead on the white one. it seems sony has not learned from their mistakes. fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced but works very well. on the back side there you have gaps on top and bottom. i really do not understand sony. this phone costs 450€ and it seems they have no QA before packaging. camerawise i can see some improvements. focus is much faster than z3c. but the camera quality nowhere comparable to a galaxy s7. its ok but not that i would say wow. front cam is better than z3c. no softskin blur effect more but when it gets dark the front cam is not very good. generally i was expecting more from sonys camera system.
the best thing at this phone is the display. the black values and color reproduction is very good. looks like amoled but is probably a very good ips. but i think its displaying to much red. adjusting whitebalance helps. generally much better than z3c. due to the 2D glass curves it seems that display is almost printed regardless the 720p.
but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
loudspeakers are a bit louder probably due to the lack of water resistance. they sound better.
the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
the biggest problem is that there are no smartphones at 4,6inch with good quality anymore. i was even thinking about iphone but no thanks. i dont want to be a slave of itunes and pay more than 750€ for a phone. SE is too small. z5c is overheating, bulky & too rectangle. A3 2016 is 4,7inch and therefor longer. could be ok. BUT it has no fuc*** notification LED. major fail by samsung as this is inacceptable in 2016. but generally the build quality by samsung has raised. the galaxy s7 in a size of 4,6inch would be perfect. im remembering the times with my galaxy s1. fantastic phone and it was undestroyable. well if you have any questions you can ask me until i have still the phone. currently im thinking of testing an s7. but i hate to to do strange things with my thumb just to be able to reach the back button on the bottom of the phone. the s4 mini was perfect size.
So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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So you are returning the phone?
I will give this phone a try but your build quality comments concern me. I should have it this week, so I'm hoping I get a good one. Does the plastic, glossy shell feel as cheap as it looks?
True, it's sad that these phones are the only game in the 4.6" size. I kinda don't consider the 4.6" iPhone in this size class because its just as big as a 5" screen phone because of the home button. I'm hoping Samsung comes out with an S7 mini which I would get in a heartbeat.
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try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
x10isrooted said:
..vibration motor is veeery strange imo. at start you dont feel him when typing but the faster you type the more the motor is vibrating. this behavior is very hard to accept...
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i didn't realize that with swift key. but you are right. if you set to system vibration you have that issue. but me, i am using swift key where you can set you individual vibration duration and that works like a charm.
x10isrooted said:
the whole left side beside the display has a gap between display and frame. on the right side there is no gap...
fingerprint button has also gaps and looks like a bit deplaced...
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on my xxc the gaps are all the same size and nothing is deplaced.
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..but there is also somehting that is causing me headache with the display. it seems that due to the curved glas the letter "P" is sometimes not very responsive. especially if you are trying to hit the letter from the right side throught the curved area of the display. from top no prob but from the side its sometimes not reacting. tested with google keyboard.
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can't confirm that too.
the 'p' works just fine. (swift key)
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the phone goes back as i have got massively used to have root. i'm still on kitkat with root and xposed and several changes through xposed. loosing all this to a non perfect phone makes no sense for 450€.
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i hope, root is just a question of time. i hope very soon. can't wait for it to make all my customisations i am used to.
i found a way posted here but its written so weird. i dont know if its reliable.
http://www.sadroid.com/root-sony-xperia-x-compact-5-minutes/
the individual vibration is the same. the often and quicker you are pressing a button the more the motor of the vibrator gets crazy. sound like a bee on Speed.
You must try to press the letter p probably from the right side. a bit through the curved glass. the galaxy s7 and z3 compact touchscreen is much more responsive and sensitive. for me it was often not reacting when i was not thinking to touch more precisely in the middle of the letter P. maybe a defect on my device but i think the whole touchscreen production will be affected by this. i have tested the Xperia X and it has the same behavior. i will have to test another device in store if this is the case there as well.
this website is untrusted. dont download anything from that. you will get a virus. nothing else. when a root is availbale someone will for sure post it here first. but i doubt that it will be soon. x compact has not the best specs. all the famous and talented devs have other phones currently. xxz0o was the person that developed a root for z3c after half a year i think.
ok. now i found the issue with the vibration. your duration seems to be set pretty long. i set it to 35ms and that works absolutely fine. but if you set it to f.e. 60ms you have that issue. but why would you like to have it that long?
i mean its obvious that it can be a prob. if your next press is in the range of the 60ms there is no other way for the phone to vibrate permanently. are other phones adjusting the vibration if you press faster than the setted duration?
but i am a slow writer. maybe i will never understand that problem. i just found that issue while pressing complete randomly on the keyboard. i could never write that fast.
jeah, as i thaught. the page is very weird. i would also only try a root from a page i know pretty good.
ohh. half a year? thats sad. but hope never dies.
i like the phone. maybe there are some others
x10isrooted said:
try it. the plastic glossy shell is not the problem. its nice to look at, looks a bit like ceramic and not so slippery as i thought but the build quality is again not the best. i hate the unsymetric gaps between frame. they just cant place the display equally into the frame. on the black (which is not true black, its more dark blue) you wont see them so much as on the white one.
i was hoping for a s7mini but it seems that samsung has changed the mini series into the A3 line which is really sad unfortunately in the stores theres always the anti thief thing on the back which prevents to get true feeling of the normal S7. i need to test if a S7 would somehow be operational with one hand for me. but i dont think so. :/
the display of my z3c is peeling of on the top left edge which was the reason iw as looking for a different phone. i need to repair this. sony would need to much time for this.
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The S7 mini would be perfect, but it will never be created. The S7 is about the same size as the iPhone 6, so if any of your friends have one, just try using it and you'll quickly realize how much harder it is to reach the top of the phone with your thumb. I'm sticking with my Z3C for another year to see if anyone (not just Sony) releases a 4.5-4.7" flagship device. The XC just doesn't meet my expectations for an "upgrade".
Phone Arena review:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-X-Compact-Review_id4256
The AndroidCentral Review is up, one note the lack of a fingerprint scanner is US only, the rest of the world has the fingerprint scanner available!
http://m.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-x-compact
All of these first reviews to be released seem to be very shallow in depth. They don't go into any real analysis of the phone and use very general statements to describe the user experience. In fact, these read more like unboxings than actual reviews. There's a lot of talk about what the phone looks like, the specs it comes with, and way too much of it sounds like they're reading a press release. If I was in the market for a new device. I'd wait another month for real reviews to be released.
Android Authority review:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uullDQFq5W0
I sure do not have those build quality issues. gaps?! display is dead flush, heck everything is. I am very impressed with the build quality, very sturdy. I do not have trouble with coming in from the right and typing 'p' either, but if you display is not flush it would probably influence it. I am more than sure you were unlucky and got a bad apple (heh). as for the key vibration issue; if you type faster than the vibration delay is set, you are of cause going to have it vibrate all the time while typing, odd btw that you guys was set to 60ms mine was set to 25ms as default.
Hey everyone, just wanted some feedback regarding an issue I began having this week with my X Compact.
Issue: The phone is not as responsive during the unlocking process as it once was. I used to simply swipe to unlock and the phone would immediately unlock with a simple swiping motion. Now, the phone requires a harder swipe before it unlocks.
Any ideas?
Got a 6GB-RAM/64GB-flash rose X820 sent from China 6 months ago. Been very happy with it until some weeks ago.
Ghost touches did very occasionally happen several months ago, after the device had been running for weeks without rebooting.
Since I update my ROMs rather regularly, that didn't really happen all that often, thought it was some kind of software glitch.
Now things have deteriorated to the point where the phone becomes unusable: After a reboot, things work for a minute or so, and then it goes crazy, reacting to phantom button presses. Since my default home button double tap actions is "previous app" and the default menu button action is "app chooser" you can imagine what's going on on the screen: Can't watch without getting dizzy.
After a while the phone will settle down with the buttons dead: They won't react or light up on touch, just light with screen or hardware button action.
Happens with all kinds of ROMs btw., the latest Chinese stock ROMs, Mokee Marshmallow and the various Nougat ROMs I tried over the last weeks.
By now I'm pretty sure it's a hardware issue with my phone, especially since I have only ever encountered one other mention of "ghost touch" in the forum.
It may be a sad case of failing hardware, "a bad soldering point" sort of thing, pretty much impossible to fix with reasonable effort for a phone at this price.
But I know Android natively supports using on-screen software buttons and I've even had ROMs which allowed you to choose between the hardware buttons and on-screen software buttons: Yet somehow, in the current crop of Nougats I haven't really come across this option any more.
So I have two questions:
1. Do others experience similar issues with failing soft buttons? How prevalent is the issue?
2. Does anyone know if one of the CM derivatives like Remix/Mokee etc. Nougats enable foregoing the soft buttons for on-screen ones?
(3.) Would a kind developer put the option back into his ROM or tell me where to find it, so I can put it there myself?
Clearly I prefer using the "hardware" buttons, but even more clearly I prefer using (typically auto-hideable) on-screen buttons to ditching the phone, which is otherwise still going very strong and much faster than its Samsung Note 3 predecessor, which I have to fall back on until the ghost touch madness is resolved via "soft-button amputation".
BTW: I noticed that my Max was rather more bendable than I would have believed a "solid metal case" phone to be (always had plastic Samsungs before and was very happy with their practical advantages of swappable batteries, light weight and drop resilience).
It typically got to the point where it wouldn't lie flat on its face, but toggle on two corners. I would then very carefully bend it back until would rest flat again.
Can't say I saw any direct relationship between the bends and the ghost touches, during "ghost attacks" careful bending either way also doesn't change the occurrence or rapidity of the ghost touches, either.
I am also using a hardenned glass cover on the screen, which is ever so slightly lifting in one corner and could have tiny specks of dust enter between the cover screen and the original front. Since I don't have an equivalent quality replacement and Le Max doesn't have the best quality screen glass, I'm hesitating to remove it, just to see if it makes a difference for the soft buttons: I'd find it hard to believe it could make a real difference, but I wouldn't mind to be corrected if wrong.
The Made by Google Twitter account confirmed the P3 does not come with a notification light! That's insane and takes away one of the great advantages that Android has over iOS. I can't tell you how many times I was unaware of messages and voice mail on my work iPhone because it doesn't give any indication of a missed notification.... For hours and even days!
This is unacceptable!
This really sucks. I have it configured to give me so much information with just a glance. They probably saved $0.01 per phone leaving it off.
They probably think we all want to use AOD to see our notifications! I've never used it myself, why, BECAUSE THE LED LIGHT WORKS GREAT! Good grief!!
Hopefully they moved the "blink" functionality to the AMOLED screen. There is really no need for a separate LED if they move that functionality into the screen. And preferably add the options that lifghtflow offers.
But knowing Google they probably just removed the feature altogether. It's sad that they can't add all of the options that the Nexus 5 had 6 years ago, which launched for half the price. And then they have the nerve to call it a premium device.
arby80 said:
Hopefully they moved the "blink" functionality to the AMOLED screen. There is really no need for a separate LED if they move that functionality into the screen. And preferably add the options that lifghtflow offers.
But knowing Google they probably just removed the feature altogether. It's sad that they can't add all of the options that the Nexus 5 had 6 years ago, which launched for half the price. And then they have the nerve to call it a premium device.
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If you remember, the Nexus 6 had one but it wasn't implemented by the factory. It took a tear down before it was found and a clever programmer figured out how to make it work!
It doesn't need one with an OLED display. You can display notification indicators on the display like you could with an led.
I am standing in front of the pixel 3 display and can confirm there is no notification led! Not even in the settings!
what happens with a missed call? does a flashing dot appear on a black screen?
djy said:
what happens with a missed call? does a flashing dot appear on a black screen?
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I don't know, but it's a terrible idea to remove the only way to see missed notifications without turning on the screen.
It doesn't need one with an OLED display. You can display notification indicators on the display like you could with an led
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Can you see the OLED display from a distance, and its colour to tell what type of notification it is? That's the advantage of an LED
scoobiesnacks said:
Can you see the OLED display from a distance, and its colour to tell what type of notification it is? That's the advantage of an LED
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I personally will not use the always on feature, so walking the screen will be my only way of seeing missed notifications. Just like the iPhone, Google is forcing you to interact with your phone the way they want, and leaving us without choice.
Passive notifications are no more. ?
This sucks. Its not a game changer but I do use led to see what I got, very useful
The usual reviewers aren't helping. Focusing on how pretty the phone is instead of functionality. I'm coming from an S5 which has a multi-color notification LED, SDcard slot, removable battery with durable lightweight removable plastic back, wireless charging, IR transmitter, headphone jack, unlocked bootloader with official lineage support, water resistance, and flat display with no rounded corners. For $1000+ the reviewers and consumers should expect and demand these features plus new stuff. Unfortunately most people don't know or care enough about the hardware or software. Never felt this bitter/unexcited about a $1000 luxury purchase before.
4 GB of ram and 128 GB of storage is not on par with the competition. Not sure why consumers are making excuses for all the shortcomings? I'm buying for stock android, camera, stereo front facing speakers, IP68, wireless charging, and a much faster chip than my current phone. They could easily make it 50% fatter and stuff a massive battery in it with a removable plastic cover with an elastomeric seal but they want us to buy a new one every year or two.
I'm nervously waiting to see if it can be rooted and flashed. If not, there's much better options for the same cost.
djy said:
The usual reviewers aren't helping. Focusing on how pretty the phone is instead of functionality. I'm coming from an S5 which has a multi-color notification LED, SDcard slot, removable battery with durable lightweight removable plastic back, wireless charging, IR transmitter, headphone jack, unlocked bootloader with official lineage support, water resistance, and flat display with no rounded corners. For $1000+ the reviewers and consumers should expect and demand these features plus new stuff. Unfortunately most people don't know or care enough about the hardware or software. Never felt this bitter/unexcited about a $1000 luxury purchase before.
4 GB of ram and 128 GB of storage is not on par with the competition. Not sure why consumers are making excuses for all the shortcomings? I'm buying for stock android, camera, stereo front facing speakers, IP68, wireless charging, and a much faster chip than my current phone. They could easily make it 50% fatter and stuff a massive battery in it with a removable plastic cover with an elastomeric seal but they want us to buy a new one every year or two.
I'm nervously waiting to see if it can be rooted and flashed. If not, there's much better options for the same cost.
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Pixel phones purchased direct from Google can all be bootloader unlocked in developer settings. It's easier than just about any other device. Root access will be gained shortly after the phone is released into the wild, and hopefully, Magisk can be used to pass safety net for Google pay. I totally understand your other concerns, but rooting shouldn't be one of them.
No LED totally sucks. I don't use AOD because of increased battery drain and increased burn in. So no way to see if there are notifications without picking up the phone. Weak battery was already bad enough.
I understand it's probably not the biggest deal in the world or anything but for me personally if the notification led is gone, I'm probably going back to Apple.
And this isn't the be-all-end-all reason, Google just seems less and less interested in truly making their devices/software unique and if it's going to essentially be the same thing as an iPhone, then I may as well just have an iPhone.
Kinda OT, but I have to say it's weird that the only other phone i've had that did AOD really good was the OG Moto X. I'll get used it on the P3. I really don't depend on it that much on my P2.... if a notification goes off, I usually hear it or feel the vibration first anyway. Rare are the times I'm spotting a led color "from across the room" lol..
I never have my sound on, drive a truck and use the notification light exclusively for notifications. Forcing me to pick up the phone (as with any professional driver) is ridiculous. Changing colors of the light allowed you to see exactly what or who the notification was from and very private. AOD is distracting and less informative. Makes 0 sense.
I've always used the notification led with my OG Pixel, so now I'm getting used to the aod.
My question for you guys is do you have aod turned on and is there noticeable battery drain from it or any other potential downside? Or do you have it where the aod only turns on from lifting the phone or double tapping?
I'm trying to pick what's the ideal way to go with this. I realize it'll probably be a personal preference deal, I've just never had an aod phone before. Thanks!
I thought that if notification comes in, screen flashes once in a while, but it doesn't seem to do that.