I've read some really mixed opinions, some say that it doesn't throttle at all (but gets quite hot during use, and I consider that a good thing, heat gets distributed from the chipset quickly).
And some say that performance falls significantly after like 10 minutes of load and games start having lag spikes after that time.
It's a hot phone. I've updated from Huawei p30 pro and I found this Xperia 1 iii runs super hot and it's basically unusable without a case, and I needed to put it against an AC vent in my car from time to time to cool it off . Never had that issue with my Huawei.
Well I already found some great tests on Tech Nick channel. It's the chipset to blame for the heat.
But compared to other phones with same chipset, Sony is one of the best performers. It even beat Asus ROG phone in terms how quickly it launchesss apps, etc. (but not in some scores, probably some throttling to blame in long-term performance, but we are comparing it to a phone that is designed specifically for gaming.)
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Well I already found some great tests on Tech Nick channel. It's the chipset to blame for the heat.
But compared to other phones with same chipset, Sony is one of the best performers. It even beat Asus ROG phone in terms how quickly it launchesss apps, etc. (but not in some scores, probably some throttling to blame in long-term performance, but we are comparing it to a phone that has a freaking fan.)
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That I agree. It's fast. And it's beautifully designed overall.
Only thing now is none of the apps refresh in background. Like my gmail. Can't for the life of me figure what's wrong. Checked every box turned on all the background refresh settings in app or in phone settings. But still no luck.
Maybe I'll wait the US version ROM and flash the phone and see if it fixes the issue.
Other then that, great phone. I just wish it chargers quicker LOL. Only 30W
They should definitely fix the refresh thing, it's a major bug. Never experienced anything like this on olders Xperias with EU rom, probably CN one to blame.
Also, does the phone get really hot when charging like previous ones? And how much does HS power control help with this if I'm using a cpu-intensive app?
(It's in the Game Enhancer that can actually be used on any other app)
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Well I already found some great tests on Tech Nick channel. It's the chipset to blame for the heat.
But compared to other phones with same chipset, Sony is one of the best performers. It even beat Asus ROG phone in terms how quickly it launchesss apps, etc. (but not in some scores, probably some throttling to blame in long-term performance, but we are comparing it to a phone that is designed specifically for gaming.)
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Does tech nick test performance by processing video or testing fps while playing games or is he strictly one if those laughable channels that does app opening contests?
the phone gets hot, it's true.
one thing it tells us about is its heat dissipating efficiency.
as soon as it gets hot it starts getting rid of heat.
While it's not pleasant to hold a hot phone, it also means the phone is actively cooling down.
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Does tech nick test performance by processing video or testing fps while playing games or is he strictly one if those laughable channels that does app opening contests?
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He did a video encoding test and Xperia won there. But no fps tests sadly. But I was not looking for them, because I do game eery mich on a phone, but I need to do heavy processing sometimes.
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He did a video encoding test and Xperia won there. But no fps tests sadly. But I was not looking for them, because I do game eery mich on a phone, but I need to do heavy processing sometimes.
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Oh, I forgot. He did FPS test on some popular games in his rewiew but no comparison. He got 60 in those games that were capped to that or solid 114 to 120 in uncapped ones.
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Oh, I forgot. He did FPS test on some popular games in his rewiew but no comparison. He got 60 in those games that were capped to that or solid 114 to 120 in uncapped ones.
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I saw someone do fps with gendhin impact. It was hard to watch. It dropped down to 20 fps. Luckily with the game i play hours a day (call of duty) it rocked 120 fps consistently.
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I saw someone do fps with gendhin impact. It was hard to watch. It dropped down to 20 fps. Luckily with the game i play hours a day (call of duty) it rocked 120 fps consistently.
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Maybe early firmware or it was really hot outside
I watched a video that uses specialized app to test for throttling - performance never dropped below 50% of max.
Very hot phone! When you doing nothing, it`s ok, it`s warm, but when the phone is loaded with tasks it gets seriously hot.
Think twice before buying!
I have never had any problems with heat at all. Record a lot of movies and use it often. Sure it gets warm but not more than any other device
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Do other hox+ owners also have overheating issues?
Before i bought the hox+ i read many articles about the older one x and the fix for overheating.
I bought the device after it came out and thought that htc cannot make the same mistake again.
Well the device is really awesome thats a fact. But honestly, the non-eco mode is pretty useless as the hox drains the battery
so damn fast. I tried to play Wild Blood in eco mode and it was pretty choppy. Turning off the eco mode just made the game run a few fps faster
and made it as hot as my heater in the night time.
Do you guys also experienced this issue? I'm not sure if 49 - 51 degrees are counted as "too hot" but the device is blinking red and green and
it doesn't feel comfortable to hold the device for too long. I don't even want to mention the gameplay while charging. after around 10 minutes i lost about 10% WHILE CHARGING.
So far i just saw the battery stats thread there but no one really mentioned the temperature while gaming. Would be nice if you guys could share your gaming experience in this thread.
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Toshi
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Do other hox+ owners also have overheating issues?
Before i bought the hox+ i read many articles about the older one x and the fix for overheating.
I bought the device after it came out and thought that htc cannot make the same mistake again.
Well the device is really awesome thats a fact. But honestly, the non-eco mode is pretty useless as the hox drains the battery
so damn fast. I tried to play Wild Blood in eco mode and it was pretty choppy. Turning off the eco mode just made the game run a few fps faster
and made it as hot as my heater in the night time.
Do you guys also experienced this issue? I'm not sure if 49 - 51 degrees are counted as "too hot" but the device is blinking red and green and
it doesn't feel comfortable to hold the device for too long. I don't even want to mention the gameplay while charging. after around 10 minutes i lost about 10% WHILE CHARGING.
So far i just saw the battery stats thread there but no one really mentioned the temperature while gaming. Would be nice if you guys could share your gaming experience in this thread.
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Toshi
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Woah i've never seen blinking lights cus it got too hot??? Then again i beat Wild Blood on my iPhone 4 when it first came out and only took me about an hour, lol. Joke of a game, great graphics gameplay blah blah blah but storyline literally takes an hour to beat the game. Then what, no reply value and a waste of space on your device.
Anyways, it's gameloft for 1, they are not and most likely never will be very compatible with tegra devices, that's just how it is. 2. This is a hard working machine bro, it takes a lot of load because it can and have you seen any ventilation on this device or fans installed? Yeah, lack of all that where else is the heat to go? Just glad i have a 1yr manf. warranty and insurance with ATT on this puppy so when it blows itself up one day i get a new one .
I've never turned off power saving mode and play tegra 3 specific games with zero lag! I've also never not once had my device get very hot. At maybe 2 times playing Bard's Tale for about 40min straight and having 5 other apps in the background it started getting 'warm', not at all would i define it as hot. I've watched Netflix movies for 1.5hr straight on power saving mode, device didn't even get warm and not 1 flicker in performance or quality over wifi.
If anything maybe you got a bunk device? If you can't watch netflix or a movie on this thing without it getting really hot and lights flashing like you say, sounds like a bunk phone to me bro. If you can though, it's only stupid gameloft let me take all your money just to play our games that have no replay value and only take an hour to beat, then you have nothing to worry about. Get some tegra games bro, that's what this device is about and once you go tegra games you don't go back, lol!
thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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Yep but the more wrong things Apple chooses to do far outweighs the good, lol! Reason being not upgrading to iPhone 5 and more then happy with this device
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thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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Well put!
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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Thats a true statement. Its hard to develop comparable chip in less than 5 years.
I just made a few benchmarks and found out that its really the gpu only that is producing the most of the heat. It seems that
Antutu Tester is just stressing the cpu cores but not gpu at all(powersaving off). At least the device stay slightly warm but not as hot as gaming in powersaving mode.
Actually does the powersaving mode also underclocks the gpu or/and the memory or just limiting the cpu to 1,3ghz?
I have attached a few photos taken with a Thermal Imaging Camera of the front and back before and after playing about 10 minutes of Avengers and Dead Trigger. The before photos arent entirely representative of the idle temperatures as I had been using the phone before taking the photos. Also, the colours are not consistently calibrated so a the same colour on two pics doesnt represent the same temperature. One last caveat, I didnt spend time to properly align the normal image with the thermal image.
from what i noticed any high graphics games or game using core power causes to overheat. like need for speed most wanted a few minutes and i can feel the heat of the unit i hope it can be fixed soon.
I don't seem to have any overheating issues but then again i very seldom play games on my phone...Day to day use like browsing watching videos the phone remains cool to warm.
The only time where i felt the phone got hot was when i tried watching high bit-rate 720p mkv using mx player and software decoding. but the phone never got too hot that it become uncomfortable to touch
Thanks alot for posting those pictures. Its getting really hot. I mean if the surface reaches over 40 degrees, how hot must it be inside the phone?
On the other side there is a nice decrease of temp visible in the lower area of the device. Maybe HTC really took it all in account and it really just gets hot but doesn't really affect the Battery.
Actually the batterylife isn't that bad. Today i charged it and it played pirates of the carribean 3 times and something in 720p on mx player (without sound as i didnt had dts codec). The battery went from 100% to 9% after 7.5 hours. Brightness on auto and data and sync turned on(2G).
i am having international version of One X+, no doubt the phone is amazing but not good for playing games or for VIOP calls,
it gets hot within no time when having these activities results unbearable for ears or hands.. any solution ? does HTC knows about it ?
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It's a quad-core phone its normal to get hot with power hungry games ,plus 42c is not really hot . Now if your phone over heats when iddle I mean 52c + and the light are blinking green and orange than yeah its an issue send it to HTC
it happened to me once when i was playing bad piggies for an extended amount of time. and by extended i mean like 30 mins. it was crazy hot and i thought the flashing lights is a notification but later found out that it got too hot.
seriously nVidia, wtf are you doing
My phone doesn`t get much hotter than my old evo 3d even during intesive 3d gaming like nova 3, avengers initiative and sonic 4 just to name a few. It gets hot but not to the point where it starts to burn my figners, my laptop can do this. Sometimes the led start flashing red and green but even in that case the exterior of the phone is only around 35-40 degrees. The phone will automatically turn off if it overheats, that is when you have to worry about overheating and reporting to HTC, so do not worry about damaging it.
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My phone doesn`t get much hotter than my old evo 3d even during intesive 3d gaming like nova 3, avengers initiative and sonic 4 just to name a few. It gets hot but not to the point where it starts to burn my figners, my laptop can do this. Sometimes the led start flashing red and green but even in that case the exterior of the phone is only around 35-40 degrees. The phone will automatically turn off if it overheats, that is when you have to worry about overheating and reporting to HTC, so do not worry about damaging it.
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Do you play it in saving mode? i tried to play mass effect without saving mode and it took me around 15-20 minutes until the game crashed.
The battery indicator app said overheated with 50.8 degrees. According to HTC it shouldn't be a problem at all:HTC's statement
“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C.
But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“
Why the hell does the game crash then and several apps
are warning me about overheating???
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Do you play it in saving mode? i tried to play mass effect without saving mode and it took me around 15-20 minutes until the game crashed.
The battery indicator app said overheated with 50.8 degrees. According to HTC it shouldn't be a problem at all:HTC's statement
“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C.
But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“
Why the hell does the game crash then and several apps
are warning me about overheating???
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You probably won`t believe me but running games in power save mode actually increases performance, because one cpu doesn`t ramp up as much it forces the other cores to kick in, this means that you have more cores running at a lower clock speed which equates to similar power consumption but far less heat, the reason why games lag is because the cpu is linked to the gpu and throttling when the chip gets too hot, you can desynchronise the gpu by using the renovate gaming boost app however you must be rooted first, great app, most aggressive min frees, optimizes cpu governor automatically and boosts gpu clock (decouples), also the tegra 3 chip was designed to go in and out of its thermal limit.
I've overheated on a few occasions now, all running a quite simple app (in my eyes) - CoPilot satnav!
Plus I loose more battery than the car charger can provide!!!
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I've overheated on a few occasions now, all running a quite simple app (in my eyes) - CoPilot satnav!
Plus I loose more battery than the car charger can provide!!!
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well its as everyone has said its a 1.7Ghz quad core phone, its going to get hot its not like your std laptop or desktop with fans and cooling now is it
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well its as everyone has said its a 1.7Ghz quad core phone, its going to get hot its not like your std laptop or desktop with fans and cooling now is it
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Like everyone had said it's a quad core etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah...
But why should we just accept it as a norm?! It's not right to make something and sell it as your new flagship when it has a MAJOR design fault by overheating so easily.
If HTC knew it would overheat then a redesign should have been done to allow for heat dissipation???
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I have a 16g black one from Google Play. and luckily it has no light bleed, minimal give on the back but the thing just get HOT even when I am using tasks like watching video or reading Chrome like now. I monitor the Cpu temp and it is around 40 > 50C when watching video surfing the web etc. However, when I am playing 3D games and stuff it get to about 60 > 75C. I dont know if it is normal or not and is this just a software or hardware issue because it get really hot on the top near the camera and both the screen and the metal rim get hot and burn my hands. I am considering RMA it if is cant be fix through a software update though. So is can it be fix through further update or rooting and new custom rom help ? And is a case gonna help reducing the heat to my hands ?
Also if I wait for the next batch can I wait and exchange for a better one then ?
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I have a 16g black one from Google Play. and luckily it has no light bleed, minimal give on the back but the thing just get HOT even when I am using tasks like watching video or reading Chrome like now. I monitor the Cpu temp and it is around 40 > 50C when watching video surfing the web etc. However, when I am playing 3D games and stuff it get to about 60 > 75C. I dont know if it is normal or not and is this just a software or hardware issue because it get really hot on the top near the camera and both the screen and the metal rim get hot and burn my hands. I am considering RMA it if is cant be fix through a software update though. So is can it be fix through further update or rooting and new custom rom help ? And is a case gonna help reducing the heat to my hands ?
Also if I wait for the next batch can I wait and exchange for a better one then ?
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You must be the lucky one the got the special unannounced option !
Only a select few have the New HTC "Hand warmer" edition made just for cooler climates like Antarctica.
Guys, can anyone help ?
This is normal. Any processor heats up with heavy gaming. The nexus 5 (snapdragon 800) can break the 70C mark in some cases. The nexus 7 (2012 with tegra) heats to 60C before throttling. The nexus 9 does try to dissepate the heat as quick as possible (lots of copper) and feels warmer.
Samsung devices are even worse, as they start throtteling even later.
The tegra k1 is a beast of a mobile processor (gpu and cpu).
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This is normal. Any processor heats up with heavy gaming. The nexus 5 (snapdragon 800) can break the 70C mark in some cases. The nexus 7 (2012 with tegra) heats to 60C before throttling. The nexus 9 does try to dissepate the heat as quick as possible (lots of copper) and feels warmer.
Samsung devices are even worse, as they start throtteling even later.
The tegra k1 is a beast of a mobile processor (gpu and cpu).
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Basically, this.
Hell, my N5 actually reboots during antutu due to thermal heat and heats up a lot during gaming.
Also, the reason it heats up when watching a video, do not forget a video has to be decoded to be displayed on the screen. Hardware decoding is less intensive but some still rely on software decoding wich will heat up and cpu in a matter of minutes. So even something as simple as watching a video can be CPU intensive depending on the decoder.
As for chrome, haven't had my N9 heat up during chrome sessions. Weird
Actually, the Nexus 9 manages as only Android device in my collection to stay completely cool in netflix HD streaming. 10% battery usage after 90 minutes. Compared to the other devices that use up at least 40% of battery during the same time.
One drawback is the 4:3 screen, which still makes my Note 10.1 beter for netflix (or movie viewing in general)... But the Nexus 9 is the only tablet I even consider using in portrait.
Same problem here, especially with Chrome. I've rooted my device, I don't know if that could have something to do with the heating...
Chrome Beta seems to have really helped with the heat issue on mine. I still get a lot of heat with gaming but that seems to be it.
The n9 was the first device I've ever had that heated up on me while browsing in chrome. This is NOT normal. I RMA'd it and picked up a shield instead... I don't know how these devices passed QA with all the issues they're having.
My personal opinion, is lollipop isn't quite ready and many apps aren't either. I'm waiting for all to be updated. The heating problem will, I'm sure, be taken care of.
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My personal opinion, is lollipop isn't quite ready and many apps aren't either. I'm waiting for all to be updated. The heating problem will, I'm sure, be taken care of.
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Hopefully before black friday . The Sheild went up last year and I'm expecting it to do the same this year, not sure if I should go ahead and buy it or wait for the Nexus 9 to be fixed.
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kingstyle1990 said:
I have a 16g black one from Google Play. and luckily it has no light bleed, minimal give on the back but the thing just get HOT even when I am using tasks like watching video or reading Chrome like now. I monitor the Cpu temp and it is around 40 > 50C when watching video surfing the web etc. However, when I am playing 3D games and stuff it get to about 60 > 75C. I dont know if it is normal or not and is this just a software or hardware issue because it get really hot on the top near the camera and both the screen and the metal rim get hot and burn my hands. I am considering RMA it if is cant be fix through a software update though. So is can it be fix through further update or rooting and new custom rom help ? And is a case gonna help reducing the heat to my hands ?
Also if I wait for the next batch can I wait and exchange for a better one then ?
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I noticed the other night a considerable warming by the camera area and all I was doing was browsing the Internet. So as I was using Chrome I stopped, and browsed with FireFox, the tablet cooled completely down. Even watching YouTube it was barely warm.
I think something is wrong with Chrome and it's causing a loop somewhere in the code ramping up the CPU causing it to use a lot of power and that equals waste heat.
Playing games also has the same effect, it ramps up the CPU. The CPU is probably rated to continue working up to quite a high temperature before it needs to slow itself down to allow to cool, but when that heat causes the case to become very hot, it should back off the speed and so keep itself cool a long time before it reaches any of it's own temperature maximums, the trouble is keeping the case cool means the CPU can't maintain high performance for very long, so what's the point of a fast CPU.
Really tablets are not the best designed devices for 3D type game playing, or anything really that needs to use a lot of CPU power over and above the occasional burst.
I wouldn't be surprised once all the benchmarks have been done and published, if a software updated doesn't fix the heat problem by throttling the CPU quicker, and running it with realistic performance characteristics that being sandwiched in a very thing plastic case with no vents or active cooling requires.
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I second the chrome beta helping. I disabled regular chrome in app manager and installed the chrome beta and have had a significant boost in battery life and decrease in heat while browsing.
Mine only gets warm with heavy games
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I second the chrome beta helping. I disabled regular chrome in app manager and installed the chrome beta and have had a significant boost in battery life and decrease in heat while browsing.
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cd419 said:
I second the chrome beta helping. I disabled regular chrome in app manager and installed the chrome beta and have had a significant boost in battery life and decrease in heat while browsing.
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Do you still notice any warmth using Chrome Beta? Or is it relatively cool? I have tried both Chrome Beta and Dolphin, and I am still noticing a good amount of heat. It's actually cooler watching Netflix than it is doing any sort of browsing whatsoever.
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Do you still notice any warmth using Chrome Beta? Or is it relatively cool? I have tried both Chrome Beta and Dolphin, and I am still noticing a good amount of heat. It's actually cooler watching Netflix than it is doing any sort of browsing whatsoever.
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Saturday when I switched to the Chrome beta for the first time the heat was the same as before. Yesterday and today it has been noticeably cooler. I'd say the tablet gets just warm enough to notice a difference from it's ambient temperature when using chrome beta. I've gotten slightly better battery life but i'm still only hitting 4 hours screen on time when I hit 15% battery which is about a 1 hour increase from before using chrome beta.
I think chrome is still in need of major optimization because as you said when I use youtube or netflix I get much better thermal and battery performance. I did notice today that chrome seems to be performing extremely well on page loads and interactivity with javascript elements etc. I threw as many complicated sites as I could at it and made sure to go to sites I that hadn't been cached before on the tablet and it was super fast. It actually impressed me with it's performance which I wasn't expecting. Now it just needs to get more battery efficient and it will be perfect.
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Saturday when I switched to the Chrome beta for the first time the heat was the same as before. Yesterday and today it has been noticeably cooler. I'd say the tablet gets just warm enough to notice a difference from it's ambient temperature when using chrome beta. I've gotten slightly better battery life but i'm still only hitting 4 hours screen on time when I hit 15% battery which is about a 1 hour increase from before using chrome beta.
I think chrome is still in need of major optimization because as you said when I use youtube or netflix I get much better thermal and battery performance. I did notice today that chrome seems to be performing extremely well on page loads and interactivity with javascript elements etc. I threw as many complicated sites as I could at it and made sure to go to sites I that hadn't been cached before on the tablet and it was super fast. It actually impressed me with it's performance which I wasn't expecting. Now it just needs to get more battery efficient and it will be perfect.
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Thanks for the details. It's a shame that browsing is so poorly optimized. That's my main purpose for a tablet. I've just been on Dolphin the last hour and yep, heat is still pretty strong and my battery has gone down quite a bit. But before that, I was running Netflix for several hours just to test, and was up to about 5 hrs SOT. But I typically don't watch much Netflix, so that doesn't reflect real-world usage for me at all.
Yeah it's a little disappointing but the improvement I saw from chrome release and chrome beta is promising. My browsing experience today aside from heat and battery issues really made me like this device. The performance really blew me away. It felt more responsive than my i7 desktop.
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You must be the lucky one the got the special unannounced option !
Only a select few have the New HTC "Hand warmer" edition made just for cooler climates like Antarctica.
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Haha thats awesome
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Yeah it's a little disappointing but the improvement I saw from chrome release and chrome beta is promising. My browsing experience today aside from heat and battery issues really made me like this device. The performance really blew me away. It felt more responsive than my i7 desktop.
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I too find myself getting attached, despite these issues. It's a really smooth tablet experience :good:
Hi guys
I just bought my Z3TC this week. Overall I'm super happy to have it. However, I notice each time, after playing around with it for 15 ~20 minutes (Surfing, photo taking, gaming), the tablet gets really hot near the home button area.
I installed a temperature app and found that the CPU was at 66'C consistently and the Battery was at 45'C. It was hot to the touch, not to the point where I can't use the tablet, but when my palm rests near the home button area, the heat is noticeable. It's not just warm. The app (CPU temperature) didn't show any throttling of the CPU either.
I'm worried that the heat will cause damage to the tablet's battery and CPU lifespan.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
THanks
What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
Z3TC overheating *Help*
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What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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Thank you diverblue! I'm going to continue researching other avenues to reduce heat. Will report back my findings as well.
Much appreciated for your time!
Happy New Years
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
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Jiyeon90 said:
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
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Thanks for the input.. it's starting to look like mine's a defective unit...
I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I played around with battery settings, installed apps, uninstalled apps.. Going to get it exchanged tomorrow...
Thanks for the input everyone.
-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader(apparently now you can)
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
thgm21 said:
-overheating issues(you can literally cook eggs on the back of this phone)
-low gaming performance, games stutter a lot, some even run with less than 20FPS(just look at this - twice cheaper phone outperforming m4)
-low available usable storage(under 2GB)
-takes forever to charge(5 hours+ via USB)
-takes forever for the camera to focus
-no way to root it
-no way to unlock the bootloader
-overall feels very laggy, unresponsive and slow
+waterproof
+decent camera
If i have to make a conclusion i'd say its the most disappointing phone i ever bought and just suggest to people to avoid it.
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Overheating issues? I get a max of 60 degree Celsius, not enough to cook
Gaming and performance issues - Yea.. Sony screwed up with
.99 update
Storage space - I got 3GB free lol. But yea, I feel you.
I can charge faster than 5hrs!
Camera focus is okayish, it outperformed my friend's Mi3 so I'm proud.
Root - Almost there I think
Bootloader - It's unlockable already.
The phone isn't that too bad, just the firmware that screwed the performance. Downgrade the phone and you should get a better experience.
I mostly agree with AndyPhoenix9879
Mine doens't seem to overheat that much even after hours of 3g web browsing ( i dont play games)
Performance is a issue with 2.99 thats why i flashed back 1.100
storage is a problem but after unistalling all bloatware and disabling anything else (that i dont need) i got 2.97GB free
Charging with a 1200mAh wall charger takes no more than 2 hours, if you charge only with computer usb 5 hours is ok, pc usb gives up to 500mah so a 2400mah battery needs 2400/500 almost 5 hours
camera is just ok
root, hope it comes soon and bootloader as AndyPhoenix9879 mentioned is unlocked already.
Overheating is the biggest problem. Using camera make the phone hotter, capture picture is so slow. I'm on plan to buy a second phone while sony M4 let me down day by day.
The problem is not root. Camera with 54-100Mb/s is fast,I push button and no lag. Very good performance with firm.112 35400 in antutu. I play emulators ppsspp,reicast,mupen64 and my phone no is hot. Only when charge by USB and I do hotspot wifi and ftp server and play at same time because no power in USB to charge.
Is there anyway to get otg?
Like by using a powered Otg cable.
Xperia L got otg in a similar method.
.112 is the spanish generic firmware of m4 aqua.are you absolutely sure it doesn't overheat?
Yes, I'm sure. If you want I can do any test. Only hot when charge by usb for many hours. My phone is UK without company, with 112.
Im using newest firmware 2.99 and im not seen lags and times where phone got slow..
Overheating.. Max temp. 80*C, okay..
But bad game performance? No no no, WoTB max settings 30-50 fps, MC5 normally playable, GTA3 Normally playable.. Etc.
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But bad game performance?
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPD97FTcghE
The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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The E4g have much lower resolution so it is absolutely not comparable performance.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
Downgrade to spanish firm 112 from xperiafirm with flashtool. 35400 in antutu,you will have mass storage option again amera faster and no lag. Y play ppsspp at full speed with tekken soul calibour,shenmue in reicast...
I got this phone to replace my broken s4 for a period of time. I think most of my issues with it can be resolved once root is achieved and an optimized stock OS rom is made.
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25% less to be exact(1500 pixels versus 2000) and costs 50% less(130 euros versus 270) , why can't it be compared?
BTW: My phone seems to get around 29k on antutu on 64bit(just after factory reset), no idea how you are getting 35k.
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Well 540x960= 500 000 pixels (approximately) for E4G. For m4 aqua we have 1280x720 which is 921 000 pixels. Almost twice more pixels for M4 Aqua to process. About the antutu result - results around 35000 were achievable with first firmware (.112). With current one more than 30000 is really difficult.
They have two totally different prices. The Snapdragon 615 is an oven, and the only thing they should REALLY improve is the focus speed and video quality.
Hubby brought a couple of these home last night to replace our seriously outdated phones (his was a blackberry that he ruined dropping it into a river, mine is a trusty old Optimus LG One that is still ticking but showing it's age). What I have seen so far
1 - came with 16gb and had 9 free so not too bad there, can upgrade with a card to an extra 128...should do me for a bit
2 - yes it gets quite warm during constant use but not unbearable, cools quickly
3- my wireless router is dieing (sigh..I loved my old DLink DR615!!!)
4 - holy freaking updates! holy bunch of crap bloatware!
5 - no pre-installed games? With all that bloatware you think they would at least have solitaire or something to kill time while updating everything
6 - camera...meh it's a phone, not a high end picture taking device but does fine to capture those spur of the moment happenings, haven't tested video yet
7 - like the display - netflix, crackle, etc all play clearly, very watchable
8. love lollipop plus the Sony overlay - they have incorporated some of the key features I used to have to download seperate apps for like silencing the whole phone with one click, move to sd, flashlight, etc... little things but it makes the overall experience nice.
9 - sound quality is decent for a midrange phone, call quality is great
10 - it's soo much bigger than any other phone I have had! First phone I had that didn't fit in my jean jacket pocket! that could cause some issues as I am very forgetful LOL
In all, no major complaints... once I get my internet connection woes sorted with the router I'll be able to download my larger games and see how it does there. For now I got Frozen Bubble installed so that will tide me over
I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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I quite like the phone, but I'm getting a pretty strange bug - sometimes when I record a video, it comes out as black plus sound. Even in the pc I can't see anything but I can hear the sound. When I reboot, it's back to normal. It happens when I really want to record a video and then I realize that I haven't got anything. Is there anybody with the same problem?
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Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
Gilmour79 said:
Yes, that bug is happening to me too.
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Reboot phone.
AndyPhoenix9879 said:
Reboot phone.
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Yeah as it might be the only solution, I can't just always do a test video and then reboot if it is black. The last time I wanted to record my squash match and then after 40min of recording it came out black. Hope they'll fix it with 6.0
I'm getting ready to pack in my M8, and I want to go the same size or smaller for under $450 (tops). The Z5c seems to be the only Android phone that really fits that bill while keeping respectable performance, but there are two issues that have me thinking twice: overheating and the "self-cracking glass".
I know nothing can be done about the screen (unless a tempered glass protector helps to keep it intact), but the overheating, if fixed, could sway me away from the Honor 8 or LG G5. I've read that the firmware update that came along with Marshmallow has largely fixed the problem, and combined with a patch available here that throttles the phone a little more aggressively, heat is no longer a big problem. That said, I'm concerned about gimping the performance of the phone in order to keep it from char-broiling my hands. How noticeable is the throttling and, if thermals are still an issue with the phone, how big of one are they?
If you wouldn't recommend the Z5c, the thermal issues remain or the throttling hurts performance in a noticeable way, I'd be curious if there are any other phones (with a micro SD slot) that you think are worth looking at.
Thanks!
Hey , i have my phone from March
this year, 3-4 updates still overheating..
battery top 46C, and cpu 60C MAX so far and stays there,
but! when battery reached 40C+ and CPU 60C+, device become 50% slow (i guess to prevent overheating)
on some games\apps you feel it, some not,
even on anutu cold device is about 90K hot device is about 50K score
after 5 -15 minutes of gaming already from 28 to 43, (depend room temp and game\app) sometimes i can shoot 4K videos for 10 minutes sometimes 1 hour
i think self cracked glass happening because two reasons
1 mainly reason: moving fast from cold when the glass is pretty hot by much (heat cause expanded)
2.sitting on device without notice
ps
sorry if my english is bad
Superrman said:
Hey , i have my phone from March
this year, 3-4 updates still overheating..
battery top 46C, and cpu 60C MAX so far and stays there,
but! when battery reached 40C+ and CPU 60C+, device become 50% slow (i guess to prevent overheating)
on some games\apps you feel it, some not,
even on anutu cold device is about 90K hot device is about 50K score
after 5 -15 minutes of gaming already from 28 to 43, (depend room temp and game\app) sometimes i can shoot 4K videos for 10 minutes sometimes 1 hour
i think self cracked glass happening because two reasons
1 mainly reason: moving fast from cold when the glass is pretty hot by much (heat cause expanded)
2.sitting on device without notice
ps
sorry if my english is bad
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Thank you! Do you know if the X Compact will run any cooler? The lower power chipset can only help, but I'm concerned about paying $500 for a phone that might not be as powerful as its older brother, which now retails for $100+ less, especially if the overheating and cracked glass issues aren't solved.
If only the Honor 8 wasn't riddled with iOS disease...
you're welcome
As far as iknow for the X compact does not have 4K, slower GPU,(CPU speed is about the same) not water resistant \proof
but he run abit cooler and got more RAM 3 for multitasking
i own only Z5 Compact
X compact base on youtube reviews and reading online
one of many
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-aB-h4OPlE
first, sorry for my english .. i have my z5c about 2 months and i don`t have any problems with overheat .. i think only some devices are afected .. i`m running 6.0.1 rooted .. before i had an xperia z2 and while i play a game (clash of clans) was a lil bit warmer than z5c ..
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first, sorry for my english .. i have my z5c about 2 months and i don`t have any problems with overheat .. i think only some devices are afected .. i`m running 6.0.1 rooted .. before i had an xperia z2 and while i play a game (clash of clans) was a lil bit warmer than z5c ..
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maybe hardware defective on some line, i remember every 3 months came new line ver 1 2 and 3 ( i think i have revision 1 or 2) 3 was available but didnt sold here
you can check your temp history somehow? like C3 widget?
or real time small app (shows cpu and batt temp)
maybe you dont play heavy games?
try run antutu 3-4 times see how much score is changing each run ,mine is from 90K to 50K more annoying then overheating himself
I run a few time antutu and i comback with results
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maybe hardware defective on some line, i remember every 3 months came new line ver 1 2 and 3 ( i think i have revision 1 or 2) 3 was available but didnt sold here
you can check your temp history somehow? like C3 widget?
or real time small app (shows cpu and batt temp)
maybe you dont play heavy games?
try run antutu 3-4 times see how much score is changing each run ,mine is from 90K to 50K more annoying then overheating himself
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here are the results:
Played 10 min`s of strategy game: Cpu temp: 41c Battery temp 35c
then : 1st antutu 70.432 Cpu temp 42c Battery temp 38c
2nd antutu 62.831 Cpu temp 41 c Battery temp 38c
3rd antutu 62.148 Cpu temp 41c Battery temp 39c
anyway , your antutu score is much higher than mine in the first time (i think depends what rom, kernel do you use..) , but like u see, mine didn`t drop at 50.000 in 3 attempts .anyway my max cpu temp was 42c when i run for first time antutu,
Hope i helpt you
yup , thanks
i guess its also depend on the ROM
im using last update stock rom and kernel
ill root my device after my warranty expired
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yup , thanks
i guess its also depend on the ROM
im using last update stock rom and kernel
ill root my device after my warranty expired
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you are not on the latest antutu 6.2.1. maybe that`s the problem ...
it about the same results with the newer version ill upload later
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you are not on the latest antutu 6.2.1. maybe that`s the problem ...
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here, i did now one is 36C and other 40C (the 1st one was right after unpluged from the charger) i let it cool off, and rerun
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here, i did now one is 36C and other 40C (the 1st one was right after unpluged from the charger) i let it cool off, and rerun
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What rom and kernel do you use? Do you have xposed?
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What rom and kernel do you use?
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stock :X i did not root yet
Any S810 device will overheat, it's inherently badly designed. Sony's hardware thermal solution is probably the best any OEM have done with the S810. It's also possible that Sony has optimized under-the-hood settings to further reduce load on the SoC and keep the temperature down.
Other software tweaks are mostly just a balance game of performance and throttling threshold.
Stock Sony firmware goes the more conservative route, so usually you won't experience noticeable heat when using it lightly.
It will still get pretty hot if you use it for intensive tasks that utilizes the full capacity of the hardware, such as playing demanding games, record in 4K for a long period of time, or watch videos that need a lot of complex decoding... etc.
If you're looking for performance without "unnecessary" throttling, just avoid all S810 devices.
Personally, most of the time I had no problems with the temp and perf of my Z5C, but there has been a few cases where I did experience slowdowns due to the throttling.
Got mine from December 2015. After few weeks of usage, it really overheats a lot. After several updates through the months, Device still overheats until now, still uncomfortable to the touch when it overheats. Tried reformatting yesterday, performance seems better with less bloatware stuff and on regular usage. But when cpu is under heavy load, device heats up and performance is reduced a lot to the point that it lags. But overall, still love my Z5C~ <3
It overheats uncomfortably. I tried xpower 4.0 ROM, smarttemperaturex mod, etc although it does reduce heat but not enough to be comfortable and im not talking about heavy tasks I'm talking about Firefox browser, WhatsApp and tapatalk.
The phone is almost never room temperature when using its either warm or hot which gets annoying after some time, don't even let me mention how hot it can get with few minutes of phone calls.
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I'd say go for X Compact. Zero overheating issues. This heat actually gets on your nerves at one point. While the gpu of X Compact is inferior, in long periods of gaming there won't be any throttling on XC but Z5c will give half the performance so at the end of the day, the X Compact will feel a lot snappier
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It overheats like crazy. I'm flashing 5.1 in hope that it will help.
When running Antutu i put my phone in refrigerator so that I can get a better score! :silly:
Any new cpu is hotter than quad-core of sd800/801 bcoz it's now much faster, even sd820 gets hot during heavy loading though better than sd810.
I've flashed SmartTemperatureX v1.61(no charging bug) and found temp is acceptable and battery life improved a bit.