X+ overheating issues thread - HTC One X+

Do other hox+ owners also have overheating issues?
Before i bought the hox+ i read many articles about the older one x and the fix for overheating.
I bought the device after it came out and thought that htc cannot make the same mistake again.
Well the device is really awesome thats a fact. But honestly, the non-eco mode is pretty useless as the hox drains the battery
so damn fast. I tried to play Wild Blood in eco mode and it was pretty choppy. Turning off the eco mode just made the game run a few fps faster
and made it as hot as my heater in the night time.
Do you guys also experienced this issue? I'm not sure if 49 - 51 degrees are counted as "too hot" but the device is blinking red and green and
it doesn't feel comfortable to hold the device for too long. I don't even want to mention the gameplay while charging. after around 10 minutes i lost about 10% WHILE CHARGING.
So far i just saw the battery stats thread there but no one really mentioned the temperature while gaming. Would be nice if you guys could share your gaming experience in this thread.
Cheers
Toshi

Toshimitsu said:
Do other hox+ owners also have overheating issues?
Before i bought the hox+ i read many articles about the older one x and the fix for overheating.
I bought the device after it came out and thought that htc cannot make the same mistake again.
Well the device is really awesome thats a fact. But honestly, the non-eco mode is pretty useless as the hox drains the battery
so damn fast. I tried to play Wild Blood in eco mode and it was pretty choppy. Turning off the eco mode just made the game run a few fps faster
and made it as hot as my heater in the night time.
Do you guys also experienced this issue? I'm not sure if 49 - 51 degrees are counted as "too hot" but the device is blinking red and green and
it doesn't feel comfortable to hold the device for too long. I don't even want to mention the gameplay while charging. after around 10 minutes i lost about 10% WHILE CHARGING.
So far i just saw the battery stats thread there but no one really mentioned the temperature while gaming. Would be nice if you guys could share your gaming experience in this thread.
Cheers
Toshi
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Woah i've never seen blinking lights cus it got too hot??? Then again i beat Wild Blood on my iPhone 4 when it first came out and only took me about an hour, lol. Joke of a game, great graphics gameplay blah blah blah but storyline literally takes an hour to beat the game. Then what, no reply value and a waste of space on your device.
Anyways, it's gameloft for 1, they are not and most likely never will be very compatible with tegra devices, that's just how it is. 2. This is a hard working machine bro, it takes a lot of load because it can and have you seen any ventilation on this device or fans installed? Yeah, lack of all that where else is the heat to go? Just glad i have a 1yr manf. warranty and insurance with ATT on this puppy so when it blows itself up one day i get a new one .
I've never turned off power saving mode and play tegra 3 specific games with zero lag! I've also never not once had my device get very hot. At maybe 2 times playing Bard's Tale for about 40min straight and having 5 other apps in the background it started getting 'warm', not at all would i define it as hot. I've watched Netflix movies for 1.5hr straight on power saving mode, device didn't even get warm and not 1 flicker in performance or quality over wifi.
If anything maybe you got a bunk device? If you can't watch netflix or a movie on this thing without it getting really hot and lights flashing like you say, sounds like a bunk phone to me bro. If you can though, it's only stupid gameloft let me take all your money just to play our games that have no replay value and only take an hour to beat, then you have nothing to worry about. Get some tegra games bro, that's what this device is about and once you go tegra games you don't go back, lol!

thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.

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thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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Yep but the more wrong things Apple chooses to do far outweighs the good, lol! Reason being not upgrading to iPhone 5 and more then happy with this device

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thanks for your feedback deeznuts. Well except some gameloft games others run pretty smooth in eco mode. It really might be a bad implementation or incompatibility with tegra3. But you are right. I'd say that games like riptide gp look pretty good and do not consume much more batterylife than browsing. Watching movies is also no problem. Mass Effect is also such a batterykiller like wild blood that turns my device into a hot potato.
You are also right that its a fast device without a cooler. But compared to the current iphone generation or the snapdragons it seems pretty hot.
I guess apple did the right thing to patent a cooler for smartphones haha.
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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Well put!
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To be fair to nvidia. Snapdragon is 4th gen chip built on 10 years of development. Even the GPU adreno started life as an AMD built chip. Many years ago.
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Thats a true statement. Its hard to develop comparable chip in less than 5 years.
I just made a few benchmarks and found out that its really the gpu only that is producing the most of the heat. It seems that
Antutu Tester is just stressing the cpu cores but not gpu at all(powersaving off). At least the device stay slightly warm but not as hot as gaming in powersaving mode.
Actually does the powersaving mode also underclocks the gpu or/and the memory or just limiting the cpu to 1,3ghz?

I have attached a few photos taken with a Thermal Imaging Camera of the front and back before and after playing about 10 minutes of Avengers and Dead Trigger. The before photos arent entirely representative of the idle temperatures as I had been using the phone before taking the photos. Also, the colours are not consistently calibrated so a the same colour on two pics doesnt represent the same temperature. One last caveat, I didnt spend time to properly align the normal image with the thermal image.

from what i noticed any high graphics games or game using core power causes to overheat. like need for speed most wanted a few minutes and i can feel the heat of the unit i hope it can be fixed soon.

I don't seem to have any overheating issues but then again i very seldom play games on my phone...Day to day use like browsing watching videos the phone remains cool to warm.
The only time where i felt the phone got hot was when i tried watching high bit-rate 720p mkv using mx player and software decoding. but the phone never got too hot that it become uncomfortable to touch

Thanks alot for posting those pictures. Its getting really hot. I mean if the surface reaches over 40 degrees, how hot must it be inside the phone?
On the other side there is a nice decrease of temp visible in the lower area of the device. Maybe HTC really took it all in account and it really just gets hot but doesn't really affect the Battery.
Actually the batterylife isn't that bad. Today i charged it and it played pirates of the carribean 3 times and something in 720p on mx player (without sound as i didnt had dts codec). The battery went from 100% to 9% after 7.5 hours. Brightness on auto and data and sync turned on(2G).

i am having international version of One X+, no doubt the phone is amazing but not good for playing games or for VIOP calls,
it gets hot within no time when having these activities results unbearable for ears or hands.. any solution ? does HTC knows about it ?
zahid

It's a quad-core phone its normal to get hot with power hungry games ,plus 42c is not really hot . Now if your phone over heats when iddle I mean 52c + and the light are blinking green and orange than yeah its an issue send it to HTC

it happened to me once when i was playing bad piggies for an extended amount of time. and by extended i mean like 30 mins. it was crazy hot and i thought the flashing lights is a notification but later found out that it got too hot.
seriously nVidia, wtf are you doing

My phone doesn`t get much hotter than my old evo 3d even during intesive 3d gaming like nova 3, avengers initiative and sonic 4 just to name a few. It gets hot but not to the point where it starts to burn my figners, my laptop can do this. Sometimes the led start flashing red and green but even in that case the exterior of the phone is only around 35-40 degrees. The phone will automatically turn off if it overheats, that is when you have to worry about overheating and reporting to HTC, so do not worry about damaging it.

ryanjsoo said:
My phone doesn`t get much hotter than my old evo 3d even during intesive 3d gaming like nova 3, avengers initiative and sonic 4 just to name a few. It gets hot but not to the point where it starts to burn my figners, my laptop can do this. Sometimes the led start flashing red and green but even in that case the exterior of the phone is only around 35-40 degrees. The phone will automatically turn off if it overheats, that is when you have to worry about overheating and reporting to HTC, so do not worry about damaging it.
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Do you play it in saving mode? i tried to play mass effect without saving mode and it took me around 15-20 minutes until the game crashed.
The battery indicator app said overheated with 50.8 degrees. According to HTC it shouldn't be a problem at all:HTC's statement
“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C.
But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“
Why the hell does the game crash then and several apps
are warning me about overheating???

Toshimitsu said:
Do you play it in saving mode? i tried to play mass effect without saving mode and it took me around 15-20 minutes until the game crashed.
The battery indicator app said overheated with 50.8 degrees. According to HTC it shouldn't be a problem at all:HTC's statement
“If the phone is in normal use without playing games or calling for long time, the temperature should be around 37°C or 38°C.
But if you use your phone to play games or surfing internet for a long time, it will be normal that the temperature rises to around 55°C.“
Why the hell does the game crash then and several apps
are warning me about overheating???
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You probably won`t believe me but running games in power save mode actually increases performance, because one cpu doesn`t ramp up as much it forces the other cores to kick in, this means that you have more cores running at a lower clock speed which equates to similar power consumption but far less heat, the reason why games lag is because the cpu is linked to the gpu and throttling when the chip gets too hot, you can desynchronise the gpu by using the renovate gaming boost app however you must be rooted first, great app, most aggressive min frees, optimizes cpu governor automatically and boosts gpu clock (decouples), also the tegra 3 chip was designed to go in and out of its thermal limit.

I've overheated on a few occasions now, all running a quite simple app (in my eyes) - CoPilot satnav!
Plus I loose more battery than the car charger can provide!!!
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targett said:
I've overheated on a few occasions now, all running a quite simple app (in my eyes) - CoPilot satnav!
Plus I loose more battery than the car charger can provide!!!
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well its as everyone has said its a 1.7Ghz quad core phone, its going to get hot its not like your std laptop or desktop with fans and cooling now is it

WigglesGRN said:
well its as everyone has said its a 1.7Ghz quad core phone, its going to get hot its not like your std laptop or desktop with fans and cooling now is it
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Like everyone had said it's a quad core etc, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah...
But why should we just accept it as a norm?! It's not right to make something and sell it as your new flagship when it has a MAJOR design fault by overheating so easily.
If HTC knew it would overheat then a redesign should have been done to allow for heat dissipation???
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[Q] Operating Temperature

Just had a quick question about the operating temperature of my atrix.
My previous phone was a captivate, which NEVER felt hot to the touch unless I ran the GPS for awhile.
It was the same for my Atrix until I ran a graphics intensive game for about an hour or so. It started to get hot while playing, so I stopped for awhile. Ever since then, it is almost always warm to the touch and is continuously operating at 50C+.
So, is this normal? What are everyone's operating temperatures?
Miine runs warm under higher stress. It is a dual core processor so heat will be higher then other phones
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ive never had a phone get this hot. this is how hot my pc gets lol. is this normal?
this result was after taking quite a few pictures with camera360 i noticed the bottom of the phone VERY hot.
these are about the temps that i get. it especially heats up when using data connection for web and not wifi. with wifi, it peaks at about 50c and on data connection it can go up to 57c.
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these are about the temps that i get. it especially heats up when using data connection for web and not wifi. with wifi, it peaks at about 50c and on data connection it can go up to 57c.
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yeah, i just use wifi and thats what gets it hot. and apps like camera >_<
Schultz_91 said:
Just had a quick question about the operating temperature of my atrix.
My previous phone was a captivate, which NEVER felt hot to the touch unless I ran the GPS for awhile.
It was the same for my Atrix until I ran a graphics intensive game for about an hour or so. It started to get hot while playing, so I stopped for awhile. Ever since then, it is almost always warm to the touch and is continuously operating at 50C+.
So, is this normal? What are everyone's operating temperatures?
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Strange how people have dif experiences. My Captivate was always hot always! It only runs slightly cooler now with one of the latest CM7 nightly.
My Atrix gets warm sometimes but I never have the extreme heat other users report. I dont use and task killers, only watchdog to monitor for runaway apps. I do use a Commuter on both.
My phone only saw the 50's when I left it charging under a pillow.When to ATT store and got it replaced.Replacement phone runs all day at 35C never seen it go past that.
And do use a commuter case aswell.
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Hmmm. My tempstature is 50°C at idle, while connected to WiFi. Is that bad?
EDIT: Well no, it goes back down to about 38° when you leave it for a while. But 50° temps are quite common.
61° after a few games of Fruit Ninja. That seems like it shouldn't happen.
MdX MaxX said:
61° after a few games of Fruit Ninja. That seems like it shouldn't happen.
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yepp even little games get mine hot. maybe it could be that we dont have software optimized for our hardware, that could effect it. who knows.
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we dont have software optimized for our hardware
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Its my understanding that the Atrix IS running a dual core optimized version of Android 2.2. Afaik our current version of Blur is NOT dual core optimized, but Im not 100% on that. Is Blur what you are referring to.? Also, apps have to be written to take advantage of both cores, so if the app wasn't specifically programmed to run on dual core it will run on just one.
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61° after a few games of Fruit Ninja. That seems like it shouldn't happen.
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I've started a thread early today because of this issue. Soon as I started playing games on my Atrix I got pretty scared with the temperature I felt on the exterior, and more scared after using temp. monitor apps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249757
The idea is to mod the phone to help dissipating heat. Besides undervolting with setcpu I guess there isnt much that can be done at software level to reduce the main chip's heat.
The ideas are still being formulated. I opened the thread so I could get some help and suggestion from other atrix owners, to have a good idea of what to do when I finally open my phone
could drill some tiny holes in the battery cover / just throwing that out there
unlocked bootloader att. atrix. honeycomb rom. faux oc kernal
Did a bunch of looking around and after a while found some white papers with the following temperature ranges:
General operating temps of -40C to +85C.
Practical usage will start to drop off below -20C and above +70C.
This tells me that our safe operating range should be limited to the practical usage temperatures. Anything outside of these and there is a good chance you will see performance drop off fast, and also may suffer hardware lockups, etc.
Personally I will stick to +65C which is the rule of thumb I go by with my PC's under full load.
<edit> <edit> I would also add that while our phones are not desktops/laptops/workstations, the CPU's can all handle around the same temperatures in all devices. Materials used and manufacturing techniques are almost identical. The solder used has a melting point of around 180C - 190C, so there is no fear of melting the solder. The main difference is that phones do not have active cooling, so you will see much larger jumps and swings in temperature. This being the reason you cannot OC in the extreme ways you can with PC's.
My rule of thumb is to keep my phone under 50c Max. The battey chewing alone is bad enough above 45c.
Ideally, I try to keep my phone below 40c whenever possible.
If it's a constant problem, then I usually try to find a different modem or fw. Which can make one heck of a difference...
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[Q] To Anyone who plays games for more than 30mins straight...

Does the LGOG get hot?
If not 30 mins, when?
I ask because my one x gets progressively hotter after 30 to 45 mins of playing any game. arcane legends, angry birds, draw something or modern war. even after that long using the WiFi hotspot. just seeing if this is a non issue for the LGOG.
Thanks
This would be an issue for all phones. Running the display and discharging the battery as much as you would need to make all the calculations in any game make a phone get hot, however someone with this device may be able to say how hot it gets.
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It gets warm like any phone will, but I've never had it get uncomfortably so. I know a few people have had an issue where the LGOG will randomly overheat, but I think that's due to a bad battery or other non standard issue.
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This phone gets crazy hot when you game on it. Nothing to do with bad batch or battery. It's a op quad core in a glass container with little ventilation.
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This phone gets crazy hot when you game on it. Nothing to do with bad batch or battery. It's a op quad core in a glass container with little ventilation.
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Pretty much this. Any 3D intensive game on my OG heats it up like crazy.
I play a lot of games on my phone, it does not heat up like the sensation did after a bit of playing. I've put in some long sessions on it too.
With eco mode on my device doesn't get hot on intensive games.
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I've never had mine get hot enough for me to worry.
I started playing real racing 3 and after setup, playing half a race and I couldn't even touch it by the camera area. It also started smelling like plastic burning.
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BIGDADDYXXL said:
I started playing real racing 3 and after setup, playing half a race and I couldn't even touch it by the camera area. It also started smelling like plastic burning.
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Eco mode. The LGOG is more than powerful enough to run games so running at lower frequencies won't really hurt the performance.
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Thanks all. Sounds good to me!

Heating Problem is it fixable?

I have a 16g black one from Google Play. and luckily it has no light bleed, minimal give on the back but the thing just get HOT even when I am using tasks like watching video or reading Chrome like now. I monitor the Cpu temp and it is around 40 > 50C when watching video surfing the web etc. However, when I am playing 3D games and stuff it get to about 60 > 75C. I dont know if it is normal or not and is this just a software or hardware issue because it get really hot on the top near the camera and both the screen and the metal rim get hot and burn my hands. I am considering RMA it if is cant be fix through a software update though. So is can it be fix through further update or rooting and new custom rom help ? And is a case gonna help reducing the heat to my hands ?
Also if I wait for the next batch can I wait and exchange for a better one then ?
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I have a 16g black one from Google Play. and luckily it has no light bleed, minimal give on the back but the thing just get HOT even when I am using tasks like watching video or reading Chrome like now. I monitor the Cpu temp and it is around 40 > 50C when watching video surfing the web etc. However, when I am playing 3D games and stuff it get to about 60 > 75C. I dont know if it is normal or not and is this just a software or hardware issue because it get really hot on the top near the camera and both the screen and the metal rim get hot and burn my hands. I am considering RMA it if is cant be fix through a software update though. So is can it be fix through further update or rooting and new custom rom help ? And is a case gonna help reducing the heat to my hands ?
Also if I wait for the next batch can I wait and exchange for a better one then ?
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You must be the lucky one the got the special unannounced option !
Only a select few have the New HTC "Hand warmer" edition made just for cooler climates like Antarctica.
Guys, can anyone help ?
This is normal. Any processor heats up with heavy gaming. The nexus 5 (snapdragon 800) can break the 70C mark in some cases. The nexus 7 (2012 with tegra) heats to 60C before throttling. The nexus 9 does try to dissepate the heat as quick as possible (lots of copper) and feels warmer.
Samsung devices are even worse, as they start throtteling even later.
The tegra k1 is a beast of a mobile processor (gpu and cpu).
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This is normal. Any processor heats up with heavy gaming. The nexus 5 (snapdragon 800) can break the 70C mark in some cases. The nexus 7 (2012 with tegra) heats to 60C before throttling. The nexus 9 does try to dissepate the heat as quick as possible (lots of copper) and feels warmer.
Samsung devices are even worse, as they start throtteling even later.
The tegra k1 is a beast of a mobile processor (gpu and cpu).
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Basically, this.
Hell, my N5 actually reboots during antutu due to thermal heat and heats up a lot during gaming.
Also, the reason it heats up when watching a video, do not forget a video has to be decoded to be displayed on the screen. Hardware decoding is less intensive but some still rely on software decoding wich will heat up and cpu in a matter of minutes. So even something as simple as watching a video can be CPU intensive depending on the decoder.
As for chrome, haven't had my N9 heat up during chrome sessions. Weird
Actually, the Nexus 9 manages as only Android device in my collection to stay completely cool in netflix HD streaming. 10% battery usage after 90 minutes. Compared to the other devices that use up at least 40% of battery during the same time.
One drawback is the 4:3 screen, which still makes my Note 10.1 beter for netflix (or movie viewing in general)... But the Nexus 9 is the only tablet I even consider using in portrait.
Same problem here, especially with Chrome. I've rooted my device, I don't know if that could have something to do with the heating...
Chrome Beta seems to have really helped with the heat issue on mine. I still get a lot of heat with gaming but that seems to be it.
The n9 was the first device I've ever had that heated up on me while browsing in chrome. This is NOT normal. I RMA'd it and picked up a shield instead... I don't know how these devices passed QA with all the issues they're having.
My personal opinion, is lollipop isn't quite ready and many apps aren't either. I'm waiting for all to be updated. The heating problem will, I'm sure, be taken care of.
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My personal opinion, is lollipop isn't quite ready and many apps aren't either. I'm waiting for all to be updated. The heating problem will, I'm sure, be taken care of.
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Hopefully before black friday . The Sheild went up last year and I'm expecting it to do the same this year, not sure if I should go ahead and buy it or wait for the Nexus 9 to be fixed.
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kingstyle1990 said:
I have a 16g black one from Google Play. and luckily it has no light bleed, minimal give on the back but the thing just get HOT even when I am using tasks like watching video or reading Chrome like now. I monitor the Cpu temp and it is around 40 > 50C when watching video surfing the web etc. However, when I am playing 3D games and stuff it get to about 60 > 75C. I dont know if it is normal or not and is this just a software or hardware issue because it get really hot on the top near the camera and both the screen and the metal rim get hot and burn my hands. I am considering RMA it if is cant be fix through a software update though. So is can it be fix through further update or rooting and new custom rom help ? And is a case gonna help reducing the heat to my hands ?
Also if I wait for the next batch can I wait and exchange for a better one then ?
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I noticed the other night a considerable warming by the camera area and all I was doing was browsing the Internet. So as I was using Chrome I stopped, and browsed with FireFox, the tablet cooled completely down. Even watching YouTube it was barely warm.
I think something is wrong with Chrome and it's causing a loop somewhere in the code ramping up the CPU causing it to use a lot of power and that equals waste heat.
Playing games also has the same effect, it ramps up the CPU. The CPU is probably rated to continue working up to quite a high temperature before it needs to slow itself down to allow to cool, but when that heat causes the case to become very hot, it should back off the speed and so keep itself cool a long time before it reaches any of it's own temperature maximums, the trouble is keeping the case cool means the CPU can't maintain high performance for very long, so what's the point of a fast CPU.
Really tablets are not the best designed devices for 3D type game playing, or anything really that needs to use a lot of CPU power over and above the occasional burst.
I wouldn't be surprised once all the benchmarks have been done and published, if a software updated doesn't fix the heat problem by throttling the CPU quicker, and running it with realistic performance characteristics that being sandwiched in a very thing plastic case with no vents or active cooling requires.
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Phil
I second the chrome beta helping. I disabled regular chrome in app manager and installed the chrome beta and have had a significant boost in battery life and decrease in heat while browsing.
Mine only gets warm with heavy games
cd419 said:
I second the chrome beta helping. I disabled regular chrome in app manager and installed the chrome beta and have had a significant boost in battery life and decrease in heat while browsing.
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cd419 said:
I second the chrome beta helping. I disabled regular chrome in app manager and installed the chrome beta and have had a significant boost in battery life and decrease in heat while browsing.
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Do you still notice any warmth using Chrome Beta? Or is it relatively cool? I have tried both Chrome Beta and Dolphin, and I am still noticing a good amount of heat. It's actually cooler watching Netflix than it is doing any sort of browsing whatsoever.
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Do you still notice any warmth using Chrome Beta? Or is it relatively cool? I have tried both Chrome Beta and Dolphin, and I am still noticing a good amount of heat. It's actually cooler watching Netflix than it is doing any sort of browsing whatsoever.
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Saturday when I switched to the Chrome beta for the first time the heat was the same as before. Yesterday and today it has been noticeably cooler. I'd say the tablet gets just warm enough to notice a difference from it's ambient temperature when using chrome beta. I've gotten slightly better battery life but i'm still only hitting 4 hours screen on time when I hit 15% battery which is about a 1 hour increase from before using chrome beta.
I think chrome is still in need of major optimization because as you said when I use youtube or netflix I get much better thermal and battery performance. I did notice today that chrome seems to be performing extremely well on page loads and interactivity with javascript elements etc. I threw as many complicated sites as I could at it and made sure to go to sites I that hadn't been cached before on the tablet and it was super fast. It actually impressed me with it's performance which I wasn't expecting. Now it just needs to get more battery efficient and it will be perfect.
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Saturday when I switched to the Chrome beta for the first time the heat was the same as before. Yesterday and today it has been noticeably cooler. I'd say the tablet gets just warm enough to notice a difference from it's ambient temperature when using chrome beta. I've gotten slightly better battery life but i'm still only hitting 4 hours screen on time when I hit 15% battery which is about a 1 hour increase from before using chrome beta.
I think chrome is still in need of major optimization because as you said when I use youtube or netflix I get much better thermal and battery performance. I did notice today that chrome seems to be performing extremely well on page loads and interactivity with javascript elements etc. I threw as many complicated sites as I could at it and made sure to go to sites I that hadn't been cached before on the tablet and it was super fast. It actually impressed me with it's performance which I wasn't expecting. Now it just needs to get more battery efficient and it will be perfect.
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Thanks for the details. It's a shame that browsing is so poorly optimized. That's my main purpose for a tablet. I've just been on Dolphin the last hour and yep, heat is still pretty strong and my battery has gone down quite a bit. But before that, I was running Netflix for several hours just to test, and was up to about 5 hrs SOT. But I typically don't watch much Netflix, so that doesn't reflect real-world usage for me at all.
Yeah it's a little disappointing but the improvement I saw from chrome release and chrome beta is promising. My browsing experience today aside from heat and battery issues really made me like this device. The performance really blew me away. It felt more responsive than my i7 desktop.
kdkinc said:
You must be the lucky one the got the special unannounced option !
Only a select few have the New HTC "Hand warmer" edition made just for cooler climates like Antarctica.
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Haha thats awesome
cd419 said:
Yeah it's a little disappointing but the improvement I saw from chrome release and chrome beta is promising. My browsing experience today aside from heat and battery issues really made me like this device. The performance really blew me away. It felt more responsive than my i7 desktop.
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I too find myself getting attached, despite these issues. It's a really smooth tablet experience :good:

[Q] Z3TC overheating *Help*

Hi guys
I just bought my Z3TC this week. Overall I'm super happy to have it. However, I notice each time, after playing around with it for 15 ~20 minutes (Surfing, photo taking, gaming), the tablet gets really hot near the home button area.
I installed a temperature app and found that the CPU was at 66'C consistently and the Battery was at 45'C. It was hot to the touch, not to the point where I can't use the tablet, but when my palm rests near the home button area, the heat is noticeable. It's not just warm. The app (CPU temperature) didn't show any throttling of the CPU either.
I'm worried that the heat will cause damage to the tablet's battery and CPU lifespan.
Does anyone else have similar issues?
THanks
What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
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What games are you playing ? I haven't noticed any elevated temperatures in my device but then again I don't typically game.
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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Thanks for the response.
It was MMX racing.. just a simple 3d based game.
But I notice, the heat generated isn't just from gaming. It seems it's happening when I'm using any apps. Is it possible to throttle the CPU? Or do I have a defective version?
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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From my understanding CPU throttling it controlled by the kernel and would therefore require root access.
Out of interest I downloaded and played dead trigger 2 after reading your post. My device certainly got warmer but it wasn't hot to touch. With the polymer backing I would be concerned of warping if you have excessive over heating, similar to the issues with the Galaxy Tab S.
If I can get some time I will monitor my temps over the next day or two and see what happens.
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Thank you diverblue! I'm going to continue researching other avenues to reduce heat. Will report back my findings as well.
Much appreciated for your time!
Happy New Years
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
Sent from my D6503
Jiyeon90 said:
That's hot as hell, when I'm playing games my battery temp is around 28C, will also check the CPU temps next time
Sent from my D6503
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Thanks for the input.. it's starting to look like mine's a defective unit...
I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I've never heard anyone say the tablet heats up. I, myself, play games on the Z3 tablet compact, 3D / 2D / whatever D, sometimes even while downloading, the thing doesn't even know how to heat up, it's always like "nope bro, no heating up from me, u want heating up? Go get something with the Tegra K1 inside". Jokes aside, the thing seriously never heats up. Possibly a defective unit? I suppose you could ask the service center to take a look.
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I played around with battery settings, installed apps, uninstalled apps.. Going to get it exchanged tomorrow...
Thanks for the input everyone.

Question How does the phone perform thermally and performance-wise?

I've read some really mixed opinions, some say that it doesn't throttle at all (but gets quite hot during use, and I consider that a good thing, heat gets distributed from the chipset quickly).
And some say that performance falls significantly after like 10 minutes of load and games start having lag spikes after that time.
It's a hot phone. I've updated from Huawei p30 pro and I found this Xperia 1 iii runs super hot and it's basically unusable without a case, and I needed to put it against an AC vent in my car from time to time to cool it off . Never had that issue with my Huawei.
Well I already found some great tests on Tech Nick channel. It's the chipset to blame for the heat.
But compared to other phones with same chipset, Sony is one of the best performers. It even beat Asus ROG phone in terms how quickly it launchesss apps, etc. (but not in some scores, probably some throttling to blame in long-term performance, but we are comparing it to a phone that is designed specifically for gaming.)
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Well I already found some great tests on Tech Nick channel. It's the chipset to blame for the heat.
But compared to other phones with same chipset, Sony is one of the best performers. It even beat Asus ROG phone in terms how quickly it launchesss apps, etc. (but not in some scores, probably some throttling to blame in long-term performance, but we are comparing it to a phone that has a freaking fan.)
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That I agree. It's fast. And it's beautifully designed overall.
Only thing now is none of the apps refresh in background. Like my gmail. Can't for the life of me figure what's wrong. Checked every box turned on all the background refresh settings in app or in phone settings. But still no luck.
Maybe I'll wait the US version ROM and flash the phone and see if it fixes the issue.
Other then that, great phone. I just wish it chargers quicker LOL. Only 30W
They should definitely fix the refresh thing, it's a major bug. Never experienced anything like this on olders Xperias with EU rom, probably CN one to blame.
Also, does the phone get really hot when charging like previous ones? And how much does HS power control help with this if I'm using a cpu-intensive app?
(It's in the Game Enhancer that can actually be used on any other app)
kot5nik said:
Well I already found some great tests on Tech Nick channel. It's the chipset to blame for the heat.
But compared to other phones with same chipset, Sony is one of the best performers. It even beat Asus ROG phone in terms how quickly it launchesss apps, etc. (but not in some scores, probably some throttling to blame in long-term performance, but we are comparing it to a phone that is designed specifically for gaming.)
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Does tech nick test performance by processing video or testing fps while playing games or is he strictly one if those laughable channels that does app opening contests?
the phone gets hot, it's true.
one thing it tells us about is its heat dissipating efficiency.
as soon as it gets hot it starts getting rid of heat.
While it's not pleasant to hold a hot phone, it also means the phone is actively cooling down.
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Does tech nick test performance by processing video or testing fps while playing games or is he strictly one if those laughable channels that does app opening contests?
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He did a video encoding test and Xperia won there. But no fps tests sadly. But I was not looking for them, because I do game eery mich on a phone, but I need to do heavy processing sometimes.
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He did a video encoding test and Xperia won there. But no fps tests sadly. But I was not looking for them, because I do game eery mich on a phone, but I need to do heavy processing sometimes.
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Oh, I forgot. He did FPS test on some popular games in his rewiew but no comparison. He got 60 in those games that were capped to that or solid 114 to 120 in uncapped ones.
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Oh, I forgot. He did FPS test on some popular games in his rewiew but no comparison. He got 60 in those games that were capped to that or solid 114 to 120 in uncapped ones.
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I saw someone do fps with gendhin impact. It was hard to watch. It dropped down to 20 fps. Luckily with the game i play hours a day (call of duty) it rocked 120 fps consistently.
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I saw someone do fps with gendhin impact. It was hard to watch. It dropped down to 20 fps. Luckily with the game i play hours a day (call of duty) it rocked 120 fps consistently.
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Maybe early firmware or it was really hot outside
I watched a video that uses specialized app to test for throttling - performance never dropped below 50% of max.
Very hot phone! When you doing nothing, it`s ok, it`s warm, but when the phone is loaded with tasks it gets seriously hot.
Think twice before buying!
I have never had any problems with heat at all. Record a lot of movies and use it often. Sure it gets warm but not more than any other device

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