Can someone explain certain options to me and their impact on performance? - Greenify

Hey!
I've been using this application for a very long time now but I'm just interested into knowing a couple of things like what couple of options mean in practice.
Of course the best way would be to try them yourself but I have over 400 application so I guess it wouldn't really be that easy so that's the reason why I'm asking. I have just realized that there is an option to ignore the running state and I see that it has improved my phone's performance for like 50% for sure.
What do other options do like disabling long running service or hibernation mode?
I can tell you that I don't really care about anything else other than performance so should be fine for me to enable these options for every single application?
Thank you for reading!

What device and OS? Rooted, custom rom?

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What device and OS? Rooted, custom rom?
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S9 Plus running Noble ROM on Android 11.

hey,
well im not familiar with that ROM but right off the bat, u should see some performance improvements by using an "app manager" or "auto start" manager to curb the ram used by autostarting apps on your phone which sounds like the option ur describing, perhaps a tweak on ur cus rom. Next i would use something like Greenify with root access to hibernate or kill both user and some system apps that kill alot of battery and memory.
Using a global adblocking app on a rooted phone maybe another good idea and u can check out some posts on playing with your "host file"...
if ur die hard performance junkie...u can look into swapping kernels and such if its available. If you get into overclocking always watch your temp. Also all this is a very good way to brick ur phone or cause hardware failure, be careful, be warned, read lots, do once.
Hope this helps a lil bit atleast...

What about cutting " wakeup paths"?
I see they can make problem sometimes. I have ended up in bootloop couple of times so I just wanted to see what does this option do in practice? Will the change be written in data or system partition?

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[ALL IN ONE] Battery Saving Tips

The one thing i'm most after is saving my battery
so i gathered up a few tricks which you can use without using your phone like a Nokia 1100..
You might have read many from the below, but some might be new to you..
1) Brightness.. Keep it 0% indoors, 50-(as much required)% outdoors.
You should keep the brightness minimum but dont push your eyes for battery saving purposes..
Use as much brightness as u would need to view stuff outdoors..
EYES>>BATTERY
2) The lesser the eye candy, the more battery life you get.
Ok, you got an android, you want to show off with fancy stuff..
but the more the widgets/apps you use to beautify, the more they consume your battery.
so use minimal widgets (none if possible)..
& DONT USE LIVE WALLPAPERS..!!
they look awesome no doubt but suck up the juice faster than i'd empty a coca-cola..
3)Overclocking..!!
Now different users have different experiences but i guess almost all would agree with the guy who made the kernels..
as fserve says and as i have experienced myself
use
Smartass - for best performance : battery saving ratio.
Conservative - for best battery backup with normal performance.. (multitasking might be slow [have experienced only with Opera Mini], rest all apps multitask with no lag)
Keep minimum frequency at 480Mhz (BEST VALUE)
If you want little more battery keep it at 122Mhz (if you dont mind the occasional blackscreen bug or a freezes/hangs that it might cause )
&
Keep the max at 652-768 as you wish..
Just mind that battery life will depend on the amount you choose..
So if you are a gamer choose high (as for you performance > battery)
all others can go for 652-729 as u prefer..
4) ROM
Now your ROM also determines your battery very significantly..
Every ROM has different apps it runs int he background.
Now i cant comment as to which is bad or which is good, coz every developer has done a great job with their ROM.
But as a general observation i can say, by far
OXYGEN v1.1 (.32 kernel) has given me the max battery backup (even though it doesnt lack on performance a bit)
Rest you should try out yourself for the best one that suits you
JUST DONT STICK TO LG OFFICIAL GINGERBREAD.. NOT A SINGLE PERSON IS HAPPY WITH IT!!
5)No Battery saver/Task Killer/Memory optimizer bullcrap..!!
Its as simple as that, as much you think they save your battery, they definitely consume some to run themselves..
So its best to do stuff manually than install all this..
PS: If you are too lazy you can stick to them..
6) TTS Trick
You must have the voice input output setting in settings.
And you must have the Pico TTS installed in it..
Just tick always use my settings in there..
It reduces your CPU consumption as the phone doesnt check everytime for settings and uses the default ones..
Cant say if this has increased my backup marginally, but meh, doesnt hurt..
7) Games means less backup..
You are on a 10k 1500mAh phone.
So dont expect full day backups if you are an avid gamer..
with heavy usage if you are getting 10-12 hrs backup, you are lucky..
people with 1-2 days backup use phone as a smartphone not a PSP..
and people with more than that backup (3-7 or 11 days), use phone as a nokia phone not a smartphone..
8) Location
If you want to use weather widgets etc. skip this step
For all others, in settings > location & security untick both wireless & GPS options.
You can tick them whenever you need, like to check-in..
Just turn them on and after you are done, turn them off..
9) 3G
I think everyone knows 3G is a major battery hogger..
For calls etc use 2G
as for internet usage
Wifi > 2G > 3G
Though mind that even 2G uses quite some battery as your network keeps searching for better signals..
So wifi is the best option..
10) Auto Sync
I personally dont use this option, coz as i said earlier, i own a smartphone..
anyhow disable background sync option in settings > accounts & sync for more backup..
11) Battery Hoggers
I personally only have noticed Facebook as one of the worst battery hogger (mark suckerberg)
but
sweetnsour has pointed out certain more apps that consume considerable amount of battery. so avoid them..
Google Maps
Task killers
GetJar
XDA
12) TITANIUM BACKUP
I cant imagine my life without it..
Its a MUST HAVE app..!!
you can freeze battery hoggers with it, if you dont want to remove them.
Just defrost later to use them..
You can even remove system apps which might be unnecessary (like car home, gtalk, or others as per your usage and requirements)
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Only Titanium Backup Pro has that function. If you don't want to pay (or pirate), there is a free alternative of Link2SD's freeze function, if you're already using Link2SD as your app-to-sd script. It can also unfreeze apps frozen by Titanium and vice versa.
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13) AIRPLANE!
Unless you are some hot-shot businessman u should keep ur cell at airplane mode at night.
Not only will it save LOTS of battery on standby, but will save you from the radiation as well if u keep ur phone near ur head..
14) BATTERY CALIBRATION
If for some reason, you are having unreasonable drains and you cant figure out what the problem is, Calibrate your battery.
I recently faced this problem and now its back to normal..
Its free & easy, just follow the steps d developer has mentioned.
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Sources : Personal Experience, XDA, Google
How about auto run manager? To prevent @pps from starting up on their own and hog battery? (I use Gemini app manager)
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Related to bloatware freezing (#12)... only Titanium Backup Pro has that function. If you don't want to pay (or pirate), there is a free alternative of Link2SD's freeze function, if you're already using Link2SD as your app-to-sd script. It can also unfreeze apps frozen by Titanium and vice versa.
Nice tips but min. Frequency that low... I heard 480 was the ideal.
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added the Link2SD tip..
and as to the autostart up manager, as like #5 says, it might close apps at startup but it surely will consume some of its own, so better go the manual way
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Nice tips but min. Frequency that low... I heard 480 was the ideal.
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yep 480 is the best..
122 though saves more battery, as i have written it causes blackscreen bugs and sometimes freezes the phone (coz the cpu kinda goes into sleep mode)..
Just saw this guide and i must say its pretty well done !
Could you add more info on minfree values and adjusting them, because as far as i remember they increase battery life alongside a performance boost.
Lycan said:
Just saw this guide and i must say its pretty well done !
Could you add more info on minfree values and adjusting them, because as far as i remember they increase battery life alongside a performance boost.
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i dont have enough knowledge over that topic, so i'd rather not direct someone in d wrong direction..
but i know for sure, to set Minefree values right V6 Supercharger is the best way..
very useful for me
some corrections i guess...
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JUST DONT STICK TO LG OFFICIAL GINGERBREAD.. NOT A SINGLE PERSON IS HAPPY WITH IT!!
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SOme people are happy with LG stock gingerbread, so it's incorrect to say that.
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9) 3G
I think everyone knows 3G is a battery resource..
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you forgot the word"hog"
The strategy which I follow to get some more juice out of my battery is to take backup of all my APKs in SD. Check which applications tend to run in background, uninstall those which are needed only on and off. Reinstall and use when required.
myawan said:
The strategy which I follow to get some more juice out of my battery is to take backup of all my APKs in SD. Check which applications tend to run in background, uninstall those which are needed only on and off. Reinstall and use when required.
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thats hectic.
why not just freeze/unfreeze them. that totally disables them as well
vj_dustin said:
thats hectic.
why not just freeze/unfreeze them. that totally disables them as well
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I had problems with freezing some apps like 'quiet sleep', resulting in FC of Titanium Backup itself

[Q] List of system apps that are safe to remove?

Can anyone tell me the system apps that are safe to remove on CM 10.1 rom?
Iv'e found lists for other devices such as the galaxy s 3 and galaxy y but not for atrix which has it's own unique system apps of course.
The porpuse of this is the save ram hoping to speed up a little bit my device, Iv'e notice that the fingerprint applications always running at sleep mode probably draining my battery so hopefully it will save some battery life as well.
BIG THANKS anyone helping me on this one.
As far as I know, all those devices already have a stable build of CM10.1, unlike A4G.
Therefore I wouldn't hope too much about this.
Also, the fact you see an app in the process list doesn't mean it's actually running. Don't assume, always check.
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As far as I know, all those devices already have a stable build of CM10.1, unlike A4G.
Therefore I wouldn't hope too much about this.
Also, the fact you see an app in the process list doesn't mean it's actually running. Don't assume, always check.
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I do assume its running based in Greenify app which keep showing fingerprint procces running on backround, downloaded betterbatterystats just to recheck it.
I guess ill have to try removing system apps that sound non-crucial (Fingerprint, Android live wallpaper) and see how goes.

Huge list of disabled apps! 180+!!!

There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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tonymy01 said:
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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jmitr said:
Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.

Honor 5x kills my apps

Hello folks,
I'm not getting push notifications on my phone, i use Whatsapp for messaging and calls and it works but when the screen turns off for a long time the app gets killed or something and i don't get messages nor calls through Whatsapp, until i wake up the phone and launch the app. That's when i get all the notifications and missed calls.
Things i've tried:
Changing the phone to performance mode
Protecting the app from closing when screen turns off
Leaving the app open and locked sliding down on the recent apps tab
Reinstalling and updating the app
I don't know what else to do this is driving me crazy. I was planning to stay with the stock Android but all these weird configurations make me consider going with Cyanogenmod if i can't fix it.
Going to CyanogenMod is a good decision. EMUI has problems in handling whatsapp notifications, which they say will be fixed by OS updates.
The problem of killing apps remains in EMUI till now. EMUI says killing apps is good for RAM management. But they should give more idle time for the app before killing it. You could have seen the reviews everywhere that the RAM management is not good in EMUI. Its default behaviour. You cant change it.
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vsriram92 said:
Going to CyanogenMod is a good decision. EMUI has problems in handling whatsapp notifications, which they say will be fixed by OS updates.
The problem of killing apps remains in EMUI till now. EMUI says killing apps is good for RAM management. But they should give more idle time for the app before killing it. You could have seen the reviews everywhere that the RAM management is not good in EMUI. Its default behaviour. You cant change it.
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Damn that's pretty bad and should have been fixed by now.
i regret buying this phone if i'm forced to install a custom ROM to make something basic work.
Also the EMUI interface is disgusting so i guess i'll be installing Cyanogenmod anyways. The stock Android interface is much nicer.
Do i just flash the ROM and gapps from my SD card or there's something else i should do? Unlock bootloader or something like that?
Madbezier said:
Damn that's pretty bad and should have been fixed by now.
i regret buying this phone if i'm forced to install a custom ROM to make something basic work.
Also the EMUI interface is disgusting so i guess i'll be installing Cyanogenmod anyways. The stock Android interface is much nicer.
Do i just flash the ROM and gapps from my SD card or there's something else i should do? Unlock bootloader or something like that?
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Start by reading the TWRP thread in the developers section
Custom ROMs, that's all I can say
Madbezier said:
Damn that's pretty bad and should have been fixed by now.
i regret buying this phone if i'm forced to install a custom ROM to make something basic work.
Also the EMUI interface is disgusting so i guess i'll be installing Cyanogenmod anyways. The stock Android interface is much nicer.
Do i just flash the ROM and gapps from my SD card or there's something else i should do? Unlock bootloader or something like that?
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Did u successfully root..and what ROM did u flash? I'm curious to know.
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I am noticing that this phone will randomly just force close an app, like no matter if I am in system settings or in Facebook. I have used phone with less ram that handles process better than EMUI. The sad part is I bought this phone because I wanted a close to MIUI experience, although it is close, it appears to missing the mark in so many ways. I really wish Xiaomi would start selling to USA
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I am noticing that this phone will randomly just force close an app, like no matter if I am in system settings or in Facebook. I have used phone with less ram that handles process better than EMUI. The sad part is I bought this phone because I wanted a close to MIUI experience, although it is close, it appears to missing the mark in so many ways. I really wish Xiaomi would start selling to USA
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RAM Management, Yeah EMUI doesn't do that part fine. Hoping so to get improved in future updates.
AsuraDas said:
I am noticing that this phone will randomly just force close an app, like no matter if I am in system settings or in Facebook. I have used phone with less ram that handles process better than EMUI. The sad part is I bought this phone because I wanted a close to MIUI experience, although it is close, it appears to missing the mark in so many ways. I really wish Xiaomi would start selling to USA
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EMUI is just so app unfriendly when it comes to RAM management
I haven't flashed the custom ROM yet, emailed honor US support a month ago to see if they're planning to fix it but they ignore my emails.
I'll end up selling the phone and getting Xiaomi if CM13 gives me problems.
Sorry for the offtopic but is there a way to back up the stock Android in case i need to go back?
You can always adjust the minfree values using several apps.
I think it has nothing to do with RAM, because it kills the app even if there's nothing else running.
Madbezier said:
I think it has nothing to do with RAM, because it kills the app even if there's nothing else running.
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Maybe you enabled "Don't keep activities" in Developer options.
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you can look into this
Settings > Advanced Settings > Battery Manager > Protected Apps
Here you can select all the Apps you want to keep running even after the screen goes off for a long time without auto-killing them
hope this helps you even without switching to CM
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check this
go to the App Info. of those Apps which you feel they are being killed and click the Battery and then check the Keep Running after screen box
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Is Greenify recommended with Android 9 Pie

I have a Pixel 2 XL with Android 9 Pie. I'm wondering is there still a benefit to using Greenify with all the battery management functionality built into 9?
Thanks,
Rick
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C5Longhorn said:
I have a Pixel 2 XL with Android 9 Pie. I'm wondering is there still a benefit to using Greenify with all the battery management functionality built into 9?
Thanks,
Rick
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My personal recommendation is 'no'. Usually it is recommended when you have some app which runs riot in the background and there is no other way to control it. I find the implementation of Doze in Pie to be impressive and my suit of apps don't have any misbehaving app.
Thanks for the reply. Is the best way to check for rogue apps to just check the battery usage stats in settings?
C5Longhorn said:
Thanks for the reply. Is the best way to check for rogue apps to just check the battery usage stats in settings?
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It is one of the ways to check for the actors in the drain scenario. A deeper analysis will require something like BetterBatteryStats from PlayStore.
I have an issue on pie if i wake up my device after 2 to 3 hrs it works like snail until i reboot my device. I dont think its memory issue as the ram us 4gb onboard and after wakup i checked it was around 1.8gb free. Please provide workaround.
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papuruth said:
Please provide workaround.
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Workaround: don't use Greenify; problem solved.
papuruth said:
I have an issue on pie if i wake up my device after 2 to 3 hrs it works like snail until i reboot my device. I dont think its memory issue as the ram us 4gb onboard and after wakup i checked it was around 1.8gb free. Please provide workaround.
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If you read the posts above yours, you will understand the comment of Davey126. Already Doze is near perfect in Pie and adding Greenify to the pot and further restricting apps through it, is likely to cause the behaviour that you are complaining of.
If you must still use Greenify, reduce the number of apps controlled by it to the minimum (only those definitely identified as rogues).
I stopped installing Greenify in 8.1, theres literally no point the memory management has evolved to a point now where its just adding complexity/cycles and RAM usage and acting in the reverse of your best interests - the opposite of what it used to do.
It was great in the past, but now its surplus to demands
73sydney said:
I stopped installing Greenify in 8.1, theres literally no point the memory management has evolved to a point now where its just adding complexity/cycles and RAM usage and acting in the reverse of your best interests - the opposite of what it used to do.
It was great in the past, but now its surplus to demands
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While I concur with most of your statements (including adding potentially unnecessary complexity) I have yet to experience significant resource loading attributable to Greenify. It resides on most my gizmos and serves as an overt check on apps that remain within the bounds of doze but exhibit behaviors that I find undesirable and/or consume unwanted cycles. The offenses are far more reserved than in the past but still annoying. That said, Greenify is clearly not needed on the vast majority of consumer devices running Android 7+.
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While I concur with most of your statements (including adding potentially unnecessary complexity) I have yet to experience significant resource loading attributable to Greenify. It resides on most my gizmos and serves as an overt check on apps that remain within the bounds of doze but exhibit behaviors that I find undesirable and/or consume unwanted cycles. The offenses are far more reserved than in the past but still annoying. That said, Greenify is clearly not needed on the vast majority of consumer devices running Android 7+.
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i guess the thing overlooked now that process/memory management is much better is that its kind of insane to be installing Greenify, and then having to exclude it from that process/memory management, so that it can do arguably a slightly worse job.....bit mad, and not the fault of Greenify, its users not using it properly (but its had that problem since it launched - people greenifying everything for example lol). Also not its fault is that people have gotten so used to installing it with every ROM flash, so its a learned habit, and they never try a ROM without it installed, so they never figure out they dont necessarily need it...
Im not trying to rubbish Greenify in any way at all, it was probably the first utility app i ever purchased right back when it first came out, and it did save my (and a millionty) other peoples bacon for years....i never regretted buying it, and thats not always been the case with utility app purchases...most have been next to useless!
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i guess the thing overlooked now that process/memory management is much better is that its kind of insane to be installing Greenify, and then having to exclude it from that process/memory management, so that it can do arguably a slightly worse job.....bit mad, and not the fault of Greenify, its users not using it properly (but its had that problem since it launched - people greenifying everything for example lol). Also not its fault is that people have gotten so used to installing it with every ROM flash, so its a learned habit, and they never try a ROM without it installed, so they never figure out they dont necessarily need it...
Im not trying to rubbish Greenify in any way at all, it was probably the first utility app i ever purchased right back when it first came out, and it did save my (and a millionty) other peoples bacon for years....i never regretted buying it, and thats not always been the case with utility app purchases...most have been next to useless!
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Yep - it's a tool that can still yield tangible benefits if used judiciously. Xposed extensions increase potency and sidesteps battery optimization woes. When Xposed isn't an option Greenify still works fine with simple adjustments. That said, I fully agree it is not needed on most modern devices/ROMs.
It's definitely useful in some cases. Instagram is one of those apps that bypass Android battery controls. I have battery optimization on, background data off, battery restriction on, and background check off (in developer options) and it still runs in the background. Even regular hibernation doesn't work. I have to use Island and Greenify to freeze it on screen off.
73sydney said:
i guess the thing overlooked now that process/memory management is much better is that its kind of insane to be installing Greenify, and then having to exclude it from that process/memory management, so that it can do arguably a slightly worse job.....bit mad, and not the fault of Greenify, its users not using it properly (but its had that problem since it launched - people greenifying everything for example lol). Also not its fault is that people have gotten so used to installing it with every ROM flash, so its a learned habit, and they never try a ROM without it installed, so they never figure out they dont necessarily need it...
Im not trying to rubbish Greenify in any way at all, it was probably the first utility app i ever purchased right back when it first came out, and it did save my (and a millionty) other peoples bacon for years....i never regretted buying it, and thats not always been the case with utility app purchases...most have been next to useless!
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Same with me. Greenify is my first buy
I use greenify widget "sleep and hibernate now" to turn my screen off.
Is there any other apps that can substitute greenify for that purpose?
I like screen off method of greenify because when we turn on the screen, we can use fingerprint (as far as i know other screen off apps must use pin/pattern to turn the screen on)
if no greenify what about the feature that shows all google sync in the accounts section? greenify unhides them and allows you to turn them all off, on stock android they hidden and kept on.
Is there an alternate way to unhide them?
chrcol said:
if no greenify what about the feature that shows all google sync in the accounts section? greenify unhides them and allows you to turn them all off, on stock android they hidden and kept on.
Is there an alternate way to unhide them?
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Interesting, I didn't even know Greenify did that. Would also be curious to know this.

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