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Why are most reviews upset at sealed SIM? What are the benefits of having the SIM exposed?
None, even if it was open. It's just an LTE sim.
None of the LTE networks in the U.S. are able to roam each other.
So say you had a Verizon LTE sim or an AT&T LTE sim & the slot was open on an off contract EVO LTE. It wouldn't do you any good.
I'm guessing you read the Engadget review?
I believe the big benefit of having a removable sim card is that you can change carriers, specifically overseas. For people who travel a lot, such as the folks who write the reviews on the tech sites, typically use an international sim card which allows them to have phone service overseas. With the ability to use gvoice and call from the internet connection, I really do not see this being a big issue; however, some do.
My question is will this restrict me from doing a esn swap. I doubt it but it doesn't hurt to ask, ya never know
id_twin said:
I believe the big benefit of having a removable sim card is that you can change carriers, specifically overseas. For people who travel a lot, such as the folks who write the reviews on the tech sites, typically use an international sim card which allows them to have phone service overseas. With the ability to use gvoice and call from the internet connection, I really do not see this being a big issue; however, some do.
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You NEED to understand that this is a sealed LTE SIM slot, not just an ordinary regular SIM slot. So "changing carriers" is out of the question. None of the carriers are currently implementing interoperable LTE networks in the first place and there's no LTE networks in Europe.
LTE right now is being used for data, not voice. That's coming with VoLTE.
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My question is will this restrict me from doing a esn swap. I doubt it but it doesn't hurt to ask, ya never know
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It shouldn't....
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yeah i ha that thought too with the sealed sim complaint it makes absolutely no sense lost some respect for the reviewer there there is no lte in Europe and the portions of the lte band even the 800mhz are partioned and carrier specific in the US
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yeah i ha that thought too with the sealed sim complaint it makes absolutely no sense lost some respect for the reviewer there there is no lte in Europe and the portions of the lte band even the 800mhz are partioned and carrier specific in the US
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The whole engadget review is just really stupid. First they complain about no world mode and then the contained sim. Very few CDMA phones support any type of GSM and adding antennas to support it would probably make the device thicker as well as raise the price. I can kind of understand wanting a worldphone when the baseband supports both CDMA and GSM but it still seems odd to see that as a major detractor. With this in mind they add the non-removable sim as a second detractor. Finally they say they don't recommend the phone because Sprint's LTE isn't available yet but then praise the device for its fast EvDO speeds. Even when Sprint does have an LTE network it won't be available to most people. For that matter 4G networks are not available to the vast majority of users on any carrier.
This is not a world device. And I did see another thread here stating that lte roaming likely WILL be an option down the road.
sent from 2yr old Evo on ICS
Well when they are done by 2014 3g us to be replaced by LTE at least coverage wise so they say
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The problem with LTE roaming is that the carriers all use different LTE spectrum. Sprint is planning on using 1900 MHz, which is different than ATT, which is different from Big Red. As someone said before, it's not like you could change the SIM and just use Verizon's LTE network all of a sudden, although that would be awesome.
yup Verizon LTE phones are soooo much better b/c you can simply put the ATT LTE SIM in the things and they will work on ATT network flawlessly......lol hahahaha
Seeing as the EVO 4G LTE is an LTE phone, the GSM and WCDMA radios are already there, they're just locked for LTE. It would be fairly easy for devs to enable the global capabilities, but because the SIM is embedded, enabling it would be a waste of time since you couldn't change SIMs anyway.
That is the point they're trying to make...
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Seeing as the EVO 4G LTE is an LTE phone, the GSM and WCDMA radios are already there, they're just locked for LTE. It would be fairly easy for devs to enable the global capabilities, but because the SIM is embedded, enabling it would be a waste of time since you couldn't change SIMs anyway.
That is the point they're trying to make...
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Interesting.... I hope to see them raving about "un-embedded" SIM cards in any new LTE device the launches with them accessible since its "downright egregious" that it's embedded in the Evo.
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Seeing as the EVO 4G LTE is an LTE phone, the GSM and WCDMA radios are already there, they're just locked for LTE. It would be fairly easy for devs to enable the global capabilities, but because the SIM is embedded, enabling it would be a waste of time since you couldn't change SIMs anyway.
That is the point they're trying to make...
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Would still req the antennaes be right for the freq and such......which is not the case I think...
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Seeing as the EVO 4G LTE is an LTE phone, the GSM and WCDMA radios are already there, they're just locked for LTE. It would be fairly easy for devs to enable the global capabilities, but because the SIM is embedded, enabling it would be a waste of time since you couldn't change SIMs anyway.
That is the point they're trying to make...
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Each of the US carriers LTE networks run on different frequencies so it doesn't matter if you can remove the sim or not. As someone else said you cannot pop in a AT&T sim into a Verizon device and it will work. That's how it should be but because the LTE networks all run on proprietary frequencies renders them incompatible.
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Would still req the antennaes be right for the freq and such......which is not the case I think...
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Right...
Making an open slot, pointless.
it matters to people who clone phones etc, if an esn gets blacklisted its possible they could blacklist the lte info. so people who are looking to edit the esn and buy a bad one there is a possiblity that in the future that would mean you couldnt have 4g. with an open slot if you acquired a different sim....
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None, even if it was open. It's just an LTE sim.
None of the LTE networks in the U.S. are able to roam each other.
So say you had a Verizon LTE sim or an AT&T LTE sim & the slot was open on an off contract EVO LTE. It wouldn't do you any good.
I'm guessing you read the Engadget review?
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MVNO's use the same radio bands.
The SIM card would make it easier to swap devices.
This is all about lockin, and Sprint is using embedded SIM cards for the sole purpose of maximizing consumer lockin.
I am not a Developer but am a Power User of Android for work and play using for Proposals,
Invoices, and business and casual browsing.
No computer needed.
Let me confirm that this Model Alpha 850M an octacore made for North, South, Central America and the Caribbean Factory Unlocked LTE phone works great on the Metro/Tmobile
Network on LTE and drops to 3G on Voice Calls and a little H+ when signal weak in large buildings.
Excellent voice quality, strong radio transceiver which locks well to even low signal in buildings or near transmitting towers .
Only my second Android and my first Samsung-I have not found the horrible bloatware I have read about but do have the phone customized with many features toggled off etc.
I come from an Audio background and Phones are the only Devices which do not often sound better ( earpiece, microphones, speakerphones) on a $600 Device versus a $150 DeviceTHIS Alpha surprised me- it sounds much fuller and a little louder than 3 or 4 AT&T
Alpha 801 quad cores I auditioned before.
Either a bigger speaker, better cone material, or more power or all three- the AT&T850A is
tinny and thin sounding compared to this 850M- not sure if they are all like this but an excellent speakerphone !
So often even with Experts you can NOT get a DEFINITIVE ANSWER on whether a specific Model performs FULLY on a certain Carrier as well as branded Devices this one does on TMobile also has the 700band which TMo will be using more and more for LTE which penetrates buildings better.
LTE Bands are AWS/ 700/850/1800/1900/2100/2600
To use a highly technical Term even for Developers this little Phone "Kicks Ass".
As I have said before If this phone was about 8.5 millimeters thick with a 3000Mah Battery
a higher res screen, 3 Gigs of RAM, SD Storage and the Camera from the Note 4 and a second speaker it would have been a great hit Worldwide.
This phone has less lag than S5 and excellent as is but SHOULD have been great.
Samsung tried to COPY the Iphone rather than surpass it, underestimating the Tech Savvy of
Android Users who purchase $600 plus phones.
One BIG PROBLEM is I cannot be on Internet and a Call Simultaneously on this phone.
It DROPS TO 3 G on Calls which temporarily kills Data-not sure if this is Alpha or Network BUT I always have Internet on calls with Metro PCS.
So this Alpha may not have this feature ?
If you are on a compatible GSM network (like T-Mobile you listed), it should maintain network connection even on 3G mode unless the phone drops to 2G mode. Until VoLTE is enabled (Alpha does support it but not yet enabled), all LTE phones on AT&T or T-Mobile will have to drop to HSPA mode (H+ or 3G or 2G depending on the availability) for voice calls. But as long as you are not on 2G (E or G), you should still have simultaneous voice and network connection.
However, I did encounter similar problems on my AT&T version but a reboot of the phone solved my problem.
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One BIG PROBLEM is I cannot be on Internet and a Call Simultaneously on this phone.
It DROPS TO 3 G on Calls which temporarily kills Data-not sure if this is Alpha or Network BUT I always have Internet on calls with Metro PCS.
So this Alpha may not have this feature ?
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Something interesting here: my G850A indicates "4G" during voice calls at the top of the screen, but bringing up the status indicates that it is indeed fluctuating between HSPA+ and UMTS. AT&T being misleading? The G850M fluctuates between saying 3G and H+. (And also, when the G850M is on LTE, the indicator only says "4G," but status check shows it's LTE.)
The other strange thing is that with both phones, I have them set up to make a sound when I press keys. During voice calls, the keys make no sounds. Go figure.
foxbat121 said:
Until VoLTE is enabled (Alpha does support it but not yet enabled), all LTE phones on AT&T or T-Mobile will have to drop to HSPA mode (H+ or 3G or 2G depending on the availability) for voice calls.
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I'm not finding that the Alpha supports VoLTE. I have VoLTE on my T-Mobile Galaxy Avant in my area, but not on the Alpha.
Corvussimo said:
Something interesting here: my G850A indicates "4G" during voice calls at the top of the screen, but bringing up the status indicates that it is indeed fluctuating between HSPA+ and UMTS. AT&T being misleading? The G850M fluctuates between saying 3G and H+. (And also, when the G850M is on LTE, the indicator only says "4G," but status check shows it's LTE.)
The other strange thing is that with both phones, I have them set up to make a sound when I press keys. During voice calls, the keys make no sounds. Go figure.
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AT&T labels HSPA/HSPA+ as 4G and LTE as 4G LTE. T-Mobile does the similar thing. In other places, HSPA+ is called 3G and LTE is called 4G. Semantics. HSPA+ is based on UMTS.
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I'm not finding that the Alpha supports VoLTE. I have VoLTE on my T-Mobile Galaxy Avant in my area, but not on the Alpha.
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VoLTE has to be enabled in the phone's firmware. When the time comes, AT&T will release a firmware update to enable it as it did with short list of other phones that supports VoLTE.
I see this is on Ebay right now for a good price, I assume this will work 100% on cricket wireless with LTE? Are there various model #s? On Ebay it just unlocked. I wanted to get this to use for work.
Interesting .
I am not a dev but as I recall Metro PCS was
one of the first to have VoLTE and also simultaneous Voice and Data back on 2011 or 2012 so I was used to talking on calls and always seeing 4G LTE on the phone. LG Motion 4G.
So this Alpha is my first Samsung- and my first factory unlocked phone still on Metro Tmo.
Now I see the LTE drop to 3G when I make a call but thanks to better APN Settings I almost always have voice and Internet simultaneously because the phone jumps to H or H+ and gives fast Internet on a call on H+.
I even had Youtube and a Speakerphone call a few times as silly experiment.
I also with inferior APN setting got "unable
to access Internet while on a call message"
previously so APN Settings make a big difference sometimes.
Very few problems, fast phone, good audio and sharp Camera...
Hope that Samsung has a Note 5 with removable battery and does a Compact Note kind of like super Alpha..
Not sure if Lollipop will give VoLTE to a Factory Unlocked Phone but if any Devs can achieve it for me ...good Donation .
CashmereEsquire said:
I see this is on Ebay right now for a good price, I assume this will work 100% on cricket wireless with LTE? Are there various model #s? On Ebay it just unlocked. I wanted to get this to use for work.
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There is a G850M and a G850F which both are international unlocked phones but cover different LTE bands. I would recommend that you check your carriers available bands (this is also depended on area), then cross check this with http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-6573.php
There are a few variants specifically for the asian market, but unless you live there you will have a difficult time in the US to get them.
When your G850M boots up, does it display any carrier branding?
robertkoa said:
I am not a Developer but am a Power User of Android for work and play using for Proposals,
Invoices, and business and casual browsing.
No computer needed.
Let me confirm that this Model Alpha 850M an octacore made for North, South, Central America and the Caribbean Factory Unlocked LTE phone works great on the Metro/Tmobile
Network on LTE and drops to 3G on Voice Calls and a little H+ when signal weak in large buildings.
Excellent voice quality, strong radio transceiver which locks well to even low signal in buildings or near transmitting towers .
Only my second Android and my first Samsung-I have not found the horrible bloatware I have read about but do have the phone customized with many features toggled off etc.
I come from an Audio background and Phones are the only Devices which do not often sound better ( earpiece, microphones, speakerphones) on a $600 Device versus a $150 DeviceTHIS Alpha surprised me- it sounds much fuller and a little louder than 3 or 4 AT&T
Alpha 801 quad cores I auditioned before.
Either a bigger speaker, better cone material, or more power or all three- the AT&T850A is
tinny and thin sounding compared to this 850M- not sure if they are all like this but an excellent speakerphone !
So often even with Experts you can NOT get a DEFINITIVE ANSWER on whether a specific Model performs FULLY on a certain Carrier as well as branded Devices this one does on TMobile also has the 700band which TMo will be using more and more for LTE which penetrates buildings better.
LTE Bands are AWS/ 700/850/1800/1900/2100/2600
To use a highly technical Term even for Developers this little Phone "Kicks Ass".
As I have said before If this phone was about 8.5 millimeters thick with a 3000Mah Battery
a higher res screen, 3 Gigs of RAM, SD Storage and the Camera from the Note 4 and a second speaker it would have been a great hit Worldwide.
This phone has less lag than S5 and excellent as is but SHOULD have been great.
Samsung tried to COPY the Iphone rather than surpass it, underestimating the Tech Savvy of
Android Users who purchase $600 plus phones.
One BIG PROBLEM is I cannot be on Internet and a Call Simultaneously on this phone.
It DROPS TO 3 G on Calls which temporarily kills Data-not sure if this is Alpha or Network BUT I always have Internet on calls with Metro PCS.
So this Alpha may not have this feature ?
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All sources that i could find on net say that SM-G850M doesn't support the band 4 on WCDMA/UMTS. They may be wrong. Since you own the device you would be the best source whether band 4 is unlocked on the device or not. I mention band 4 because that is the band t-mobile uses in most markets on 3G (fake 4G) and LTE. Go into settings\more networks\mobile networks and change the preferred network connection into 3G (or it may say 4G on your phone, just stay away from LTE), verify that it is now operating on 3G (fake 4G), then go to dialer and dial *#197328640#, choose "BASIC INFORMATION' and report what you see. I own the ATT version and when i force it (using *#*#INFO#*#*) into fake 4G it reports "RRC:IDLE, BAND:5" which is WCDMA BAND 850, that is what ATT uses here (ATT uses BAND 2 here also which is WCDMA 1900) where i live for 3G (fake 4G). When i switch back to LTE and go into this hidden menu, it reports that it is connected on "LTE RRC:IDLE BAND: 17", which is what ATT uses in my area. So you may be in market that t-mobiles uses PCS band for 3G (BAND 2) and that would explain why you do not drop on EDGE. It would be a lot clearer when you report properly on which BAND you are connected. What is concerning is that you say you loose data when making calls, which makes me think that you indeed drop to EDGE while on calls, which is painfully slow and makes you think you lost data. As i said, it would be easier to understand what is going on when you provide the whole picture ...
This is what i know that t-mobile uses on 3G:
-- BAND2 and BAND4
and LTE:
-- BAND4 and BAND17 (they might be using BAND2 too in some markets)
If your phone drops to EDGE, you won't be able to do voice and data simultaneously. You need to be on 3G (UMTS minimum) to have simultaneous voice and data.
Since Alpha only has AT&T version released in US, I'd suspect you can't buy any model of Alpha that fully supports all T-Mobile's bands because of the unique mix of bands used by T-Mobile.
The models sold on ebay varies a lot but the one I purchased says Factory unlocked by also states AT&T compatible. For all intents and purposes, the one I received is actually AT&T version, indeed factory unlocked, running AT&T branded firmware. That fits me just fine because I'm on AT&T. But if you are not on AT&T, YMMV. Cricket wireless, IIRC, is now a subsidiary of AT&T.
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All sources that i could find on net say that SM-G850M doesn't support the band 4 on WCDMA/UMTS. They may be wrong. Since you own the device you would be the best source whether band 4 is unlocked on the device or not. I mention band 4 because that is the band t-mobile uses in most markets on 3G (fake 4G) and LTE. Go into settings\more networks\mobile networks and change the preferred network connection into 3G (or it may say 4G on your phone, just stay away from LTE), verify that it is now operating on 3G (fake 4G), then go to dialer and dial *#197328640#, choose "BASIC INFORMATION' and report what you see. I own the ATT version and when i force it (using *#*#INFO#*#*) into fake 4G it reports "RRC:IDLE, BAND:5" which is WCDMA BAND 850, that is what ATT uses here (ATT uses BAND 2 here also which is WCDMA 1900) where i live for 3G (fake 4G). When i switch back to LTE and go into this hidden menu, it reports that it is connected on "LTE RRC:IDLE BAND: 17", which is what ATT uses in my area. So you may be in market that t-mobiles uses PCS band for 3G (BAND 2) and that would explain why you do not drop on EDGE. It would be a lot clearer when you report properly on which BAND you are connected. What is concerning is that you say you loose data when making calls, which makes me think that you indeed drop to EDGE while on calls, which is painfully slow and makes you think you lost data. As i said, it would be easier to understand what is going on when you provide the whole picture ...
This is what i know that t-mobile uses on 3G:
-- BAND2 and BAND4
and LTE:
-- BAND4 and BAND17 (they might be using BAND2 too in some markets)
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OK, I did this: I changed the settings on my G850M to force 3G. The code(s) you said to put in didn't work for me, so I used *#0011# instead. It said two different things, depending on when I did the test. Once it said 1900 Band 2, and once it said 1700 Band 4. Then, I put it back to LTE and it said Band 4. I've attached screenshots of all three. This is T-Mobile in Portland, OR.
Also, I found one reasonably reliable Internet source that indicated the G850M does support 3G Band 4. Here's the link:
Samsung Peru's Specs on the G850M
I was also hesitant to buy the G850M for the same Band 4 reason, until I found the specs on the Samsung Peru Website. The screenshot below shows that the M indeed does have 3G Band 4.
Corvussimo said:
OK, I did this: I changed the settings on my G850M to force 3G. The code(s) you said to put in didn't work for me, so I used *#0011# instead. It said two different things, depending on when I did the test. Once it said 1900 Band 2, and once it said 1700 Band 4. Then, I put it back to LTE and it said Band 4. I've attached screenshots of all three. This is T-Mobile in Portland, OR.
Also, I found one reasonably reliable Internet source that indicated the G850M does support 3G Band 4. Here's the link:
Samsung Peru's Specs on the G850M
I was also hesitant to buy the G850M for the same Band 4 reason, until I found the specs on the Samsung Peru Website. The screenshot below shows that the M indeed does have 3G Band 4.
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Thanks for doing this. It is always good when things get confirmed like this. Now I can safely purchase one for wife. Where did you purchase it, if I may ask?
bormasina said:
Thanks for doing this. It is always good when things get confirmed like this. Now I can safely purchase one for wife. Where did you purchase it, if I may ask?
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Glad to help. I was a still a little concerned myself until I ran this test.
I bought it on eBay from The Pwrsellers
They currently have black, white, and gold for $450. Mine was a Brand New Open Box black model, so it was another $50 less than that. So far, so good! There is no cell company boot-up screen, and the bloatware is at a refreshing minimum.
AT&T now sells brand new for $319.99 retail.
I was at att last weekend and they wanted like $600 to buy it the 850a.
I got the 850m from target online via Amazon. It does work on t mobile.
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I got the 850m from target online via Amazon. It does work on t mobile.
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Yeah, I almost bought one from Target, too, but this less expensive one came up just at the right time. FWIW, the one I bought from The Pwrsellers came drop-shipped from Amazon as well, so that makes me think most (if not all) the companies selling the G850M in the US right now are drop-shipping through Amazon.
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Yeah, I almost bought one from Target, too, but this less expensive one came up just at the right time. FWIW, the one I bought from The Pwrsellers came drop-shipped from Amazon as well, so that makes me think most (if not all) the companies selling the G850M in the US right now are drop-shipping through Amazon.
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I bought from target for the return policy, especially since I was not sure if it was going to work on tmobile .
I just bought another one to see if the reception is any better and I will return the one with the worse reception.
Thanks for 1700 Band Test on 3G
I have found APN Settings for Metro/Tmo important for best performance on my Factory Unlocked 850M.
MetroPCS frequently uses Tmo APNs even on Metro PCS Phones.
With Factory Unlocked Phones I assume trial and error may be best for an advanced Phone like Alpha.
I tried the Settings used for Note 4 on Tmobile which worked but not as well as what I use now but open for suggestions lol.
Here are current best I have found which are fast Data and allow
Internet while on calls about 90% of the time.
I always have good voice and audio on calls.
Here's current APN Settings :
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I have found that IPv4/IPv6 seems to perform a bit better than IPv4 .
But I have NO IDEA what these do in Tmobile Protocol.
Also I leave BEARER unspecified but have tried LTE also.
The only problem I sometimes have is no data on 3G and Phone does not bounce back to LTE AFTER a call- often turning data off and on with Quick Toggle restores LTE quickly.
Oddly this is an intermittent problem.
Often I have quick Internet while on a call but sometimes no Internet on a Call.
Here are the screenshots from my Alpha 850M which has no Carrier Branding when I forced 3G also some H showed and I got
1900 band in 3G but have not seen 1700 3G but in LTE in second screen.
I am in Miami area which is reframed so Metro/Tmo uses 1900 more here for 3G - Corvussimo - how did you get 1700 to show on 3G - is yours a Factory Unlocked unbranded Alpha ?
Thanks for both your help very interesting stuff.
I have been testing and also read on official telegram group that carrier aggregation (4G+ or LTE-A) is not enabled in Europe.
Will there be any fix for it on future updates? Phone is listed as CAT16 but its working as a CAT4.
Any idea? Was Poco community manager on forum? Would be nice to know if Pocophone will be CAT16 in Europe or just CAT4.
zgotenz said:
Any idea? Was Poco community manager on forum? Would be nice to know if Pocophone will be CAT16 in Europe or just CAT4.
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yep, it's quite slow and I hope they'll fix it with an update cause compared to my Mi A1 I'm not getting full-speed LTE experience, only slow 4G mode. band 3 actually, no band20:
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yep, it's quite slow and I hope they'll fix it with an update cause compared to my Mi A1 I'm not getting full-speed LTE experience, only slow 4G mode. how did you check and find out it's cat4 only?
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With *#*#4636#*#* you can see connected cells, or some apps for cell monitoring, it doesn't use never more than one band (EARFCN is the frequency of band used). Could maybe be a CAT5, that it's like CAT4 but supporting MIMO 4x4, but the most standard is CAT4. CAT6+ are all LTE-A with carrier aggregation, what Poco doesn't support in Europe bands. (some info in http://main.rfassurance.com/?q=LTEUeCategory )
Also I work on mobile network engineering, so I have some info from network, but it can be easyly checked from phone, no network aggregation = no 4g+ or LTE-A
my problem was solved by a call with three austria service line.
in fact they didn't get band 20 frequency by auction, only 1800 and 900 for volte calls only.
https://www.rtr.at/de/tk/FRQshare
so, I'd have to change my provider (telekom or t-mobile or a sub) to get band 20.
meltbanana said:
my problem was solved by a call with three austria service line.
in fact they didn't get band 20 frequency by auction, only 1800 and 900 for volte calls only.
https://www.rtr.at/de/tk/FRQshare
so, I'd have to change my provider (telekom or t-mobile or a sub) to get band 20.
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It's not related to the lack of carrier aggregation for Pocophone in Europe. My provider uses bands, 3, 7 and 20, in a cell with the three bands and that allows carrier aggregation between all them in any order, doesn't work at all while works with another phones.
Btw, installed new MIUI10 open beta, and problem is still there.
@ PocoCommunityManager are you there? Any info?
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It's not related to the lack of carrier aggregation for Pocophone in Europe. My provider uses bands, 3, 7 and 20, in a cell with the three bands and that allows carrier aggregation between all them in any order, doesn't work at all while works with another phones.
Btw, installed new MIUI10 open beta, and problem is still there.
@ PocoCommunityManager are you there? Any info?
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There is not 4G+ for Poco in Europe like on most xiaomi phone, stop to ask.
I don't think asking is a problem, Pocophone lists the phone as 4g+ in Europe (example: https://www.poco.net/es/specs/ or https://www.mi.com/es/pocophone-f1/specs/ ), so we ask for it.
SD845 allows it, probably it's a fw thing, not hw.
zgotenz said:
I don't think asking is a problem, Pocophone lists the phone as 4g+ in Europe (example: https://www.poco.net/es/specs/ or https://www.mi.com/es/pocophone-f1/specs/ ), so we ask for it.
SD845 allows it, probably it's a fw thing, not hw.
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I mean, there is 4g+ but only in special conditions, very rare: it's as if it were not there.
Any chance someone from Poco team could answer this? Other phones using perfectly 4g+ and Pocophone fake CAT16 doesn't at all?
My internet is slower on pocophone than in my last phone, Xiaomi mi a2. And both have band 20, then i thing that is a rom problem.
I think more band combinations are available with MiUi 10 because after the update it's showing me 4G+ on a network.
I'm also having the same problem in Europe. It just wouldn't connect to 4G+, not like on other phones. My operator supports 3+20 and 3+7+20 band carrier aggregation. LTE Discovery app shows that the phone is always connected to band 3 only.
Up !
I wrote about this problem in the main pocophone forum and to be honest there is no real official reply. Some people wrote that CA is disabled due to pocophone not buying proper licences from Qualcomm.
It's difficult to say how accurate this explanation is. One thing is definite, they advertise pocophone as LTE cat.16 capable and at the same time they disable this feature completely and limit capabilities to LTE cat.4 (not even cat.6 ....). This is not what you call honest marketing. More like lying about you product capabilities. I think CA happens but only in India or in some extremely rare cases in some other countries, especially if certain phone companies offer CA on frequencies similar to indian frequencies.
No developer can activate this option? With a custom ROM or something? The sd845 supports this though!
Any update?
they are not interested as usual. flagships in Xiaomi's term: "yeah it's fast but that's all. buy it then don't ask CAUSE IT'S FAST OKAY?"
Why is this thread inactive? I live in Greece where carriers use 3 7 and 20 for 4g although poco is always connected on 3 as stated. Has anyone tried to enable 3CA using QPST?
I usually get connected to band 3 or 20.
I'm in Spain. To make sure I'm using band 20 I switch from 4g to 3g and back to 4g Enmidiately. Screenshots attached.
Is this device compatible with AT&T network? Or is it just not compatible with the 5G network?
These are the bands the phone has. So it should work just fine on att and tmobile (plus all the sub carriers from these two)
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These are the bands the phone has. So it should work just fine on att and tmobile (plus all the sub carriers from these two)
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Thanks for the info. This is a relief. I want a headphone jack and SD slot. Very hard to find.
Read this, which is consistent with what I had previously read. No mention of ATT 5G for US version. Hoping @cyanpac is correct:
"Buyers of the North American model of the Xperia 1 III will be restricted to the black edition that comes with 256 GB storage. The smartphone delivers dual-SIM capability and is reportedly compatible with the 5G networks in the US offered by the carriers T-Mobile and Verizon."
Official Sony Xperia 1 III price in the US leaves potential buyers wondering about pre-order bundles to soften the blow
Sony has finally revealed the asking price for the Xperia 1 III in the US. The 5G-capable smartphone with triple lens camera, water-resistance certification, 4K 120 Hz OLED, and even a 3.5 mm audio jack, will set buyers back by US$1,299.99. Plenty considering a purchase have been speculating on...
www.notebookcheck.net
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Read this, which is consistent with what I had previously read. No mention of ATT 5G for US version. Hoping @cyanpac is correct:
"Buyers of the North American model of the Xperia 1 III will be restricted to the black edition that comes with 256 GB storage. The smartphone delivers dual-SIM capability and is reportedly compatible with the 5G networks in the US offered by the carriers T-Mobile and Verizon."
Official Sony Xperia 1 III price in the US leaves potential buyers wondering about pre-order bundles to soften the blow
Sony has finally revealed the asking price for the Xperia 1 III in the US. The 5G-capable smartphone with triple lens camera, water-resistance certification, 4K 120 Hz OLED, and even a 3.5 mm audio jack, will set buyers back by US$1,299.99. Plenty considering a purchase have been speculating on...
www.notebookcheck.net
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It is more compatible with TMobile and Verizon because it has the bands they use. It barely has 5g bands and barley any 4g bands for att. It'll work but you'll have signal issues most likely. TMobile is pretty cheap and the service they have now is miles better than what it was even 3 years ago.
cyan pac said:
It is more compatible with TMobile and Verizon because it has the bands they use. It barely has 5g bands and barley any 4g bands for att. It'll work but you'll have signal issues most likely. TMobile is pretty cheap and the service they have now is miles better than what it was even 3 years ago.
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Well, I need/want a phone with headphone jack and SD slot, which are hard to come by, so I guess I'm going to have to switch to T-Mobile.
I spoke with a guy at B&H Photo, who are taking pre-orders. We had a long conversation about the bands. His view is ATT will be about the same as T-Mobile for 5G coverage based on what he could see of T-Mobile's 5G bands. I pre-ordered and will give it a try on ATT. I can always move to T-Mobile if I'm not happy with how it runs on ATT>
Does anyone really make their phone decisions based on 5G bands? That technology is honestly still a few years off being actually useful unless you're parked under a 5G tower
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Does anyone really make their phone decisions based on 5G bands? That technology is honestly still a few years off being actually useful unless you're parked under a 5G tower
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How is being parked under a 5g tower magically going create apps or tech that takes advantage of 5g?
I thought the Xperia could connect to the 5G bands that actually will increase connection speed drastically: n41, n71, n77, and n78. I do not value the mmwave 5G because they drastically drain battery.
11 frequencies are used in N.A.
Checkmarks added for Xperia III U.S. market capabilities.
X n2 (1900 PCS)
✓ n5 (850)
X n12 (700)
X n25 (1900)
✓ n41 (2500)
✓ n66 (1700)
✓ n71 (600)
✓ n77 (3700 MHz) used for C-band
✓ n78 (3500) used for C-band
X n260 mmWave (39GHz)
X n261 mmWave (28GHz)
Extra info:
13 frequencies are used internationally:
n1 (2100) Britain
n3 (1800) Germany
n7 (2600) Thailand
*n8 (900) China?
n20 (800) Australia
n28a (700) France
n38 (2600) Thailand
n40 (2300) Australia
n66 (2800) Kuwait
n79 (China)
*n258 mmWave(26 GHz) Australia
Same as N.A.: n41 (2500), n77 (3700 MHz) used for C-band, n78 (3500) used for C-band
Possible that n8 (900) is used in U.S. in future?
*not supported on iphone 12. Iphone 12 has the most 5G connectivity capabilities. I researched where all the bands supported are used.
Sources:
Will Sony Xperia 1 III work in USA?
In this page we are going to show you the compatibility of Sony Xperia 1 III with the mobile networks of USA and with the telephony operators that provide service in USA.
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Does anyone really make their phone decisions based on 5G bands? That technology is honestly still a few years off being actually useful unless you're parked under a 5G tower
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I was hoping for better 5G coverage than my 1 MK II. If not I will keep it another year
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I spoke with a guy at B&H Photo, who are taking pre-orders. We had a long conversation about the bands. His view is ATT will be about the same as T-Mobile for 5G coverage based on what he could see of T-Mobile's 5G bands. I pre-ordered and will give it a try on ATT. I can always move to T-Mobile if I'm not happy with how it runs on ATT>
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B&H Photo, the best.
Only issue with 5G coverage is it's coverage even when there are plenty of 5G towers. It's more directional than 4G.
Perhaps the rep is correct though, their staff tends to be very knowledgeable. AT&T is a monster anyway
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I spoke with a guy at B&H Photo, who are taking pre-orders. We had a long conversation about the bands. His view is ATT will be about the same as T-Mobile for 5G coverage based on what he could see of T-Mobile's 5G bands. I pre-ordered and will give it a try on ATT. I can always move to T-Mobile if I'm not happy with how it runs on ATT>
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Thanks. I look forward to your experience
Hate to break it to you but we will only be able to get 4G LTE with HD Voice. This is extremely agrevating as I purchased the Xperia Pro to take advantage of the 'extraorinary' 5G speeds but turns out the phone only gets 4G LTE + HD Voice. IMEI gets picked up by AT&T as the Xperia Pro and even with a APN changed it refuses to connect.
Since the phone is unlocked, couldn't you get it on AT&T and if the 5g coverage didn't work well, just switch over to TMobile?
When ordering you have to pick carrier, my guess is that they include a SIM for that carrier? but you could just swap to another carrier SIM if you wanted later?
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Hate to break it to you but we will only be able to get 4G LTE with HD Voice. This is extremely agrevating as I purchased the Xperia Pro to take advantage of the 'extraorinary' 5G speeds but turns out the phone only gets 4G LTE + HD Voice. IMEI gets picked up by AT&T as the Xperia Pro and even with a APN changed it refuses to connect.
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5G speeds tend to not be so extraordinary. Up to a 20% increase over 4G LTE if you're within range which is also iffy. That's what I've been seeing reported.
I wouldn't sweat it...
Just spent a few hours w/ T-Mobile Expert Tech and Xperia USA Tech after trying everything to access T-M's 5G n41 band with my 1 III (XQ-BC72). Short answer: it's not happening and neither rep knew why so they're submitting a ticket and will get back to me.
For what it's worth - although the "Expert" reps would neither deny nor confirm, when I called Xperia Support USA (855-806-8464), the tech rep there said she found a Sony bulletin which said only Verizon 5G is working currently and T-Mo and AT&T will be fixed in a software update - no ETA.
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Just spent a few hours w/ T-Mobile Expert Tech and Xperia USA Tech after trying everything to access T-M's 5G n41 band with my 1 III (XQ-BC72). Short answer: it's not happening and neither rep knew why so they're submitting a ticket and will get back to me.
For what it's worth - although the "Expert" reps would neither deny nor confirm, when I called Xperia Support USA (855-806-8464), the tech rep there said she found a Sony bulletin which said only Verizon 5G is working currently and T-Mo and AT&T will be fixed in a software update - no ETA.
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No Volte and no wifi calling on Sony too (its terrrrrrrible)
The Xperia 1 III US model doesn't support 5G very well. It's unreliable even on T-Mobile because stand alone mode is disabled in the phone's configuration. It combines a short-range LTE band with long-range NR 71. Being that SA is disabled, it gains nothing but battery drain from that mix.
I am looking to buy this phone, but am very cautious because it isn't officially available or supported in Canada. So I am wondering, from those here who have done purchased and use this phone as their main one, what is the Xperiance (heh) like? What works? What doesn't work? Would you recommend it?
Also, what version are you using? I've found a few websites selling the US variant (XQ-BC62), but most of the sellers have the Chinese(?) model (XQ-BC72).
I've read this thread, so I understand that I cannot just simply purchase a non-US model and flash it with a US rom without having LTE issues and no apparent benefit. Was really hoping that was a feasible option to maybe get some carrier features to work. But honestly, I don't care for 5G (besides, Freedom Mobile doesn't even offer 5G), I don't think I have ever used wifi calling, and I doubt phone calls with VoLTE are vastly superior to voice calls without it, so losing out on those features isn't the biggest issue for me. I just want a phone that works, though, and not something I will constantly need to fight with to keep working.
So yeah, if anybody has anything to share, I would greatly appreciate it!
I'm coming to the Xperia 1 III after having a SA 5G phone and IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. The Xperia is always suffering from spotty signal problems while my older T-Mo LG Velvet 5G is solid everywhere, despite the two having the same public spec sheet. The Xperia likes LTE 66 + NR 71, which makes absolutely no sense. LTE 66 is fast but a bit unreliable while NR 71 is ultra-reliable but slow. The Xperia can't operate without LTE 66 so NR 71 is just there to drain the battery and turn on the "5G" indicator. It can't seem to use NR 41 at all. The LG typically uses the best three of NR 2, 4, 41, and 71.
Think about the future:
HSPA is as good as dead. What little of it remains is badly overloaded. No VoLTE/VoNR will soon mean no phone calls.
Newer bands are 5G only
I don't know if it's the latency improvements or the way 5G/LTE bandwidth sharing works, but a saturated cell tower performs a lot better on 5G than LTE.
I'm hoping Sony fixes the BC62 soon or this will be a $$$$ mistake. A bad cell radio is no fun.
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I'm coming to the Xperia 1 III after having a SA 5G phone and IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. The Xperia is always suffering from spotty signal problems while my older T-Mo LG Velvet 5G is solid everywhere, despite the two having the same public spec sheet. The Xperia likes LTE 66 + NR 71, which makes absolutely no sense. LTE 66 is fast but a bit unreliable while NR 71 is ultra-reliable but slow. The Xperia can't operate without LTE 66 so NR 71 is just there to drain the battery and turn on the "5G" indicator. It can't seem to use NR 41 at all. The LG typically uses the best three of NR 2, 4, 41, and 71.
Think about the future:
HSPA is as good as dead. What little of it remains is badly overloaded. No VoLTE/VoNR will soon mean no phone calls.
Newer bands are 5G only
I don't know if it's the latency improvements or the way 5G/LTE bandwidth sharing works, but a saturated cell tower performs a lot better on 5G than LTE.
I'm hoping Sony fixes the BC62 soon or this will be a $$$$ mistake. A bad cell radio is no fun.
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Well that's extremely frustrating to read...
The one phone that checks all the damn boxes regarding hardware, and of course it doesn't actually work well as a phone. You had one job, Sony!
At least that is something that can be fixed, right? But yeah, I'm not really down to spend $1500 CAD on a phone that might work...
I am in Canada and I have XQ-BC72. I am on Fido and I also tried Rogers wireless sim card. NO VOLTE SUPPORTED. Not only volte, no carrier feature are supported (volte, vowifi, voicemail, visual voicemail). However, basic LTE function works fine. The network speed is very good, I think the speed is the standard speed.
A funny thing is I didn't have 4g+ support when I first came to Canada. The network speed is about 40mbps. But I got 4g+ support after I inserted a Rogers sim. I mean insert a Rogers sim and take it out and then insert my Fido card. The 4g+ sign disappeared in a few weeks but the network speed seems remaining the same, which is more than 100mbps now.
Also if you're interested, it doesn't support 5g on Rogers. It might because it's on TW rom, but I don't want to flash my phone and try again since flashing ROMs in other areas makes LTE unusable.
Flashing ROMs doesn't help on carrier support. I am trying to get the carrier support by unlocking my phone this winter. There's a guide on XDA, you can check.
Forbesii said:
I am in Canada and I have XQ-BC72. I am on Fido and I also tried Rogers wireless sim card. NO VOLTE SUPPORTED. Not only volte, no carrier feature are supported (volte, vowifi, voicemail, visual voicemail). However, basic LTE function works fine. The network speed is very good, I think the speed is the standard speed.
A funny thing is I didn't have 4g+ support when I first came to Canada. The network speed is about 40mbps. But I got 4g+ support after I inserted a Rogers sim. I mean insert a Rogers sim and take it out and then insert my Fido card. The 4g+ sign disappeared in a few weeks but the network speed seems remaining the same, which is more than 100mbps now.
Also if you're interested, it doesn't support 5g on Rogers. It might because it's on TW rom, but I don't want to flash my phone and try again since flashing ROMs in other areas makes LTE unusable.
Flashing ROMs doesn't help on carrier support. I am trying to get the carrier support by unlocking my phone this winter. There's a guide on XDA, you can check.
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This guide?
I'll wait before pulling the trigger then and see how it goes for you. I tried contacting Freedom Mobile to see if there was a chance they approve this phone for their network, but the response was basically "we don't recommend getting unsupported devices, just get a Samsung" lol...
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This guide?
I'll wait before pulling the trigger then and see how it goes for you. I tried contacting Freedom Mobile to see if there was a chance they approve this phone for their network, but the response was basically "we don't recommend getting unsupported devices, just get a Samsung" lol...
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I think it is okay if you don't care about 5g. I'm here using the phone for three months without any problem. Actually, I don't use voice calls that much and I don't have any scenario that I need network while calling. The 3g call quality is fine and I think even better than WhatsApp. It's a good phone for daily use though.
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I'm coming to the Xperia 1 III after having a SA 5G phone and IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. The Xperia is always suffering from spotty signal problems while my older T-Mo LG Velvet 5G is solid everywhere, despite the two having the same public spec sheet. The Xperia likes LTE 66 + NR 71, which makes absolutely no sense. LTE 66 is fast but a bit unreliable while NR 71 is ultra-reliable but slow. The Xperia can't operate without LTE 66 so NR 71 is just there to drain the battery and turn on the "5G" indicator. It can't seem to use NR 41 at all. The LG typically uses the best three of NR 2, 4, 41, and 71.
Think about the future:
HSPA is as good as dead. What little of it remains is badly overloaded. No VoLTE/VoNR will soon mean no phone calls.
Newer bands are 5G only
I don't know if it's the latency improvements or the way 5G/LTE bandwidth sharing works, but a saturated cell tower performs a lot better on 5G than LTE.
I'm hoping Sony fixes the BC62 soon or this will be a $$$$ mistake. A bad cell radio is no fun.
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Yikes. That's a pretty disappointing read.
kevinmcmurtrie said:
I'm coming to the Xperia 1 III after having a SA 5G phone and IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. The Xperia is always suffering from spotty signal problems while my older T-Mo LG Velvet 5G is solid everywhere, despite the two having the same public spec sheet. The Xperia likes LTE 66 + NR 71, which makes absolutely no sense. LTE 66 is fast but a bit unreliable while NR 71 is ultra-reliable but slow. The Xperia can't operate without LTE 66 so NR 71 is just there to drain the battery and turn on the "5G" indicator. It can't seem to use NR 41 at all. The LG typically uses the best three of NR 2, 4, 41, and 71.
Think about the future:
HSPA is as good as dead. What little of it remains is badly overloaded. No VoLTE/VoNR will soon mean no phone calls.
Newer bands are 5G only
I don't know if it's the latency improvements or the way 5G/LTE bandwidth sharing works, but a saturated cell tower performs a lot better on 5G than LTE.
I'm hoping Sony fixes the BC62 soon or this will be a $$$$ mistake. A bad cell radio is no fun.
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Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62)
cacombos.com
This is a list of all the supported 4G + 5G combos for the Xperia 1 III
kevinmcmurtrie said:
I'm coming to the Xperia 1 III after having a SA 5G phone and IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE. The Xperia is always suffering from spotty signal problems while my older T-Mo LG Velvet 5G is solid everywhere, despite the two having the same public spec sheet. The Xperia likes LTE 66 + NR 71, which makes absolutely no sense. LTE 66 is fast but a bit unreliable while NR 71 is ultra-reliable but slow. The Xperia can't operate without LTE 66 so NR 71 is just there to drain the battery and turn on the "5G" indicator. It can't seem to use NR 41 at all. The LG typically uses the best three of NR 2, 4, 41, and 71.
Think about the future:
HSPA is as good as dead. What little of it remains is badly overloaded. No VoLTE/VoNR will soon mean no phone calls.
Newer bands are 5G only
I don't know if it's the latency improvements or the way 5G/LTE bandwidth sharing works, but a saturated cell tower performs a lot better on 5G than LTE.
I'm hoping Sony fixes the BC62 soon or this will be a $$$$ mistake. A bad cell radio is no fun.
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I think I found your answer.
According to this website (www.cacombos.com), the T-Mobile LG Velvet supports more carrier aggregation combos with 5G on T-Mobile:
LG Velvet 5G (T-Mobile USA) (LM-G900TM) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for LG Velvet 5G (T-Mobile USA) (LM-G900TM)
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Whereas, the Xperia 1 III can only pick up that Band 66 + n71 if it is also paired with LTE band 2, apparently:
Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62) | 4G/5G Bands & Combos
4G & 5G Bands, Carrier Aggregation and Dual Connectivity Combinations for Sony Xperia 1 III (US) (XQ-BC62)
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This site takes the band info directly from the phones' respective modem logs, so this is as accurate as it can get.
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Forbesii said:
Hey, I unlocked my phone and did some tricks to toggle VoLTE and VoWiFi on. But, unfortunately, my phone provider Fido and its mama Rogers wireless don't support non-fido and non-rogers phones. Posts on the fido forum can confirm that. So, I cannot ensure if the VoLTE really works on my phone, but I've tried a Telus SIM card before I did my tricks; the result was the voicemail appeared in the dialer app, which is a good sign isn't it?
I read the post in the forum for enabling VoLTE but I cannot understand even a word... So I didn't try the method in their video and post. In addition, there's a lot of difference between South Korea and Canada. The Qualcomm software seems to recognize his carrier in their video but my Qualcomm software didn't, so I gave up following their guide.
If you want more information about the trick, I created a magisk module and you can try on your carrier. I think Freedom is not blocking non-freedom phones. I also see someone succeed in getting VoLTE by adding mbn files.
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Hey Do you have a link to someone succeeding in getting VoLTE?
would this work on the 5iii? It looks like this is the pixel mbn.
@astracd had said because the chip is different, it wouldn't work on the xperia.
Yes, you guys need to find mbn file from phone with same chipset that has mbn for rogers or fido.
Hey. I got 5G, VoLTE, VoWiFi work on my phone. The bad news is there's only mbn files for Rogers, Bell and Telus.
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Hey. I got 5G, VoLTE, VoWiFi work on my phone. The bad news is there's only mbn files for Rogers, Bell and Telus.
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How did you get the MBN files? As far as I was aware, Sony doesn't provide them and you need one specific to the phone/chipset, no?
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How did you get the MBN files? As far as I was aware, Sony doesn't provide them and you need one specific to the phone/chipset, no?
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Sony does, but they software locked these files. The MBN files are already in your phone.
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Hey. I got 5G, VoLTE, VoWiFi work on my phone. The bad news is there's only mbn files for Rogers, Bell and Telus.
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Can you give more details on this? I'm looking to buy a sony xperia 1 III or IV, and I need to figure out if VoLTE / 5G / VoWiFi will work on Rogers.
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Can you give more details on this? I'm looking to buy a sony xperia 1 III or IV, and I need to figure out if VoLTE / 5G / VoWiFi will work on Rogers.
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Never use non-Rogers or non-fido phone with Rogers/fido. Even though we have the mbn files. I was with fido and I borrowed a Rogers sim for testing. Sadly the results was I can't have anything work on fido and only 5G worked on Rogers but slower than LTE. Non of them has VoLTE or VoWoFi working. Rogers the company is famous for blocking phones from registering IMS which is the key of VoLTE and VoWiFi. So I switched to Virgin plus.
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Never use non-Rogers or non-fido phone with Rogers/fido. Even though we have the mbn files. I was with fido and I borrowed a Rogers sim for testing. Sadly the results was I can't have anything work on fido and only 5G worked on Rogers but slower than LTE. Non of them has VoLTE or VoWoFi working. Rogers the company is famous for blocking phones from registering IMS which is the key of VoLTE and VoWiFi. So I switched to Virgin plus.
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So what features work for you on virgin with the Xperia 1 IV? us or Intl version
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So what features work for you on virgin with the Xperia 1 IV? us or Intl version
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I have an XQ-BC72 (intl. ver.). I can guarantee that VoLTE and VoWiFi work on Virgin and Kodoo; since they are the sub-companies, I assume that will work on Bell (Virgin’s parent) and Telus (Kodoo’s parent). Also I can guarantee that 5G is working on Rogers; I guess 5G would work on other twos and speed would be much better if it’s a US version phone since US and Canada has very similar bands. It is proven that VoLTE and VoWiFi WOULD NOT work on any Rogers and Rogers’ sub-companies. I will keep trying these features on other carriers.
ViLTE is not tested because I am still finding out how to trigger the feature, but unfortunately I only have another iPhone with me.
Please aware that all these things would work AFTER you unlock and root your phone. Canadian is not officially supported by SONY which is very weird.
Forbesii said:
I have an XQ-BC72 (intl. ver.). I can guarantee that VoLTE and VoWiFi work on Virgin and Kodoo; since they are the sub-companies, I assume that will work on Bell (Virgin’s parent) and Telus (Kodoo’s parent). Also I can guarantee that 5G is working on Rogers; I guess 5G would work on other twos and speed would be much better if it’s a US version phone since US and Canada has very similar bands. It is proven that VoLTE and VoWiFi WOULD NOT work on any Rogers and Rogers’ sub-companies. I will keep trying these features on other carriers.
ViLTE is not tested because I am still finding out how to trigger the feature, but unfortunately I only have another iPhone with me.
Please aware that all these things would work AFTER you unlock and root your phone. Canadian is not officially supported by SONY which is very weird.
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So if 5G is working on Rogers, and you place a phone call, it drops to 3G? lol.
The rest of your story is good news.