Hi guys,
I realized that the lockscreen is doing nothing in the sense of the security on the S2. I am using a lock pattern and sometimes when I get a text call, or press the sleep/wake button a couple times, I can unlock the screen without the pattern. Anyone else notice this?
I read about this a while ago, some bug with TouchWiz 4.0
security *FLAW* found...
Bascotie said:
Hi guys,
I realized that the lockscreen is doing nothing in the sense of the security on the S2. I am using a lock pattern and sometimes when I get a text call, or press the sleep/wake button a couple times, I can unlock the screen without the pattern. Anyone else notice this?
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Yup, I noticed this also... on my 2nd day... I was *informed* that if I truly wanted to SECURE the phone 100% with PIN/PASSWORD/Pattern, I would have to choose LOCK immediately, otherwise, every other swipe the phone can be unlocked without it... EXACTLY like you experienced it.
Just change it to IMMEDIATE and you should be fine...
lonewolf69 said:
Yup, I noticed this also... on my 2nd day... I was *informed* that if I truly wanted to SECURE the phone 100% with PIN/PASSWORD/Pattern, I would have to choose LOCK immediately, otherwise, every other swipe the phone can be unlocked without it... EXACTLY like you experienced it.
Just change it to IMMEDIATE and you should be fine...
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You want to set the Lock Timeout to Immediately (to clarify things) Located in Settings->Location and Security->Timeout
I noticed today that my screen lock isn't working most of the time. Anyone else having this problem? I've tried resetting it without luckluck
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If you mean using a PIN or pattern then yes, I have noticed this. If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen. This is the same security bug that the skyrocket had. You can bypass the bug by setting the timer to immediate but that is such a pain to put in your in your PIN every time the screen times out...
planoman said:
If you set a PIN and lock the screen manually (pressing the power button) then it should require a PIN to unlock the screen, but it does not. It still does if the timer setting expires but it should require a PIN anytime you lock the screen.
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That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
techntrek said:
That's not a bug in either phone. Do you want to enter your pin every time you accidentally hit the power button? You don't have to set the timer to expire immediately, just set it fairly low.
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Accidentally press the power button? I have never done that. I understand about the timer, but it should require a PIN if you lock the phone with the button. I tested this on my International GNote and my skyrocket (after the security fix) and they both work as they should...if it is not a bug it is not the same as the other Samsung phones running touchwiz 4. It is not a big deal but it does exit.
Edit: It was the SGSII on ATT not the skyrocket with the security bug.
The timer is there for this purpose:
* for most ppl who like the convienence of not to use PIN all the time, timer is a great feature. You only need PIN when you let it idle for a while.
* for those paranoid, set the timer to immediate and you get what you want.
There is no security issue. It's a new feature introduced in GB.
Remember, for most ppl, power button is a key/screen touch lock so that they can safely pocket the phone without worrying about butt dialing.
Bingo. You get the best of both worlds depending on your needs. I'm very happy mine doesn't lock right away.
planoman - don't worry, you'll hit the power button. In landscape mode it is right where your fingers sit (or if you have it the other way the volume button is right there).
Let me make this easier:
1. It is not a big deal.
2. It is not that way on my skyrocket or International GNote which have GB.
3. I understand about the timer. It works fine once the time set elapses.
4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
planoman said:
4. If you want to lock the phone by intentionally pressing the power button to lock you phone before the timer kicks in, it will not lock.
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Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
Let me make it easier for you to understand, the purpose of lock timer is to enable the lock screen when your phone idles pass the timer. Hit power button mearly inidcates that you are indeed put the phone into idle state, not start lock the phone. The actual lock won't be required until the timers elapses. This is a convienence feature so that more ppl will use the PIN lock on their phone (a good thing). A lot of ppl I know don't use PIN lock simply because they don't want to be bothered to entry PIN every 5 seconds. Yes, most ppl use power button to turn off the screen to save battery as well as avoid unintentional action on the phone. They don't use power button to LOCK the phone.
Since you like to use power button to LOCk the phone, you should set the timer to immdiate and call it a day.
5. The ATT Galaxy S II launched with the same thing and everyone called it a security flaw
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-09-30/tech/30228702_1_samsung-flaw-timeout
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The reporters who called it security flaw don't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing. And we all know how BGR is ALWAYS correct on Android stuff
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
foxbat121 said:
Hence you didn't under stand the timer at all. There are two timers: screen timer and lock timer. Don't confuse the two.
The reporters who called it security flaw doesn't understand the issue at all just like you. IIRC, BGR is the first one posted such thing.
The bug in SG2 is rather a UI bug. Instead of showing you a normal swipe to unlock screen, it showed a pattern unlock screen but the underlying code works correctly (it doesn't need unlock pattern at that time). Hence it throw everyone off. The UI bug has been fixed in 2.3.6 update but the timer feature still works as it should.
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You know that feeling when you know you are right and someone is trying to argue a point and they just don"t get it? yeah..I have that feeling right now. Give it up. I know exactly what I am talking about.
If this was not a problem why did Samsung release a statement on it and deploy a fix for the ATT SGSII? It was for pattern lock ot PIN lock. Just because you do not use the phone like that does ot mean it is working as it should. Have you tried it on any other Samsung phones? I have stated that I tried it on two other Samsung phone running 2.3.6 and you are still arguing...
Stop trying to prove a point that cannot be proven. It is a bug, it is not designed to work that way and if you never ever want to intentionally lock your phone BEFORE the lock timer elapses then great! No problem for you!
From Android Central:
http://www.androidcentral.com/major-security-flaw-found-atts-upcoming-samsung-galaxy-s-ii-device
Please, Android central simple reposted the same thing from other blogs. They all do the same reposting each other without thinking. So, that's not really any proof.
This has been discussed throughly in the SGS2 forum.
The fact remains, most of us think power button not as lock button but you do. That's the only difference. And the current implementation benifits both sides. That's the point.
I understand what you are saying perfectly. I do use a PIN I have the lock timer set to ten miuntes for the reasons you stated. Normally I do not want to enter my PIN code every time...that said, there are times when I do want to hit the power button to shut the screen off or lock the phone BEFORE the 10 minutes will elapse. An example would be at home when I set my phone down so that if my kids grab it they cannot hit the power button and I come back to a screen that has my icons rearranged or missing etc. Or at a meeting in a conference room when I leave my phone sitting in the room or bag for a break etc, I usually do lock the phone just in case some one picks up my phone or worse steals it. They just need to touch the screen every nine minutes and they will have access to all of my stuff.
I get your points and do understand. My point was just because many do not use the power or lock button to intentionally lock the screen, does not mean the ATT Gnote is funtioning as designed or at least other Samsung phones with 2.3.6 and touchwiz.
So OP, it this what you were speaking of or did we miss your point entirely?
I use power button to turn off screen almost exclusively. Rarely I ever let screen timeout to turn the screen off for me. I'd be really pissed and call BUG if power button immediately lock the phone. My lock time out is set to 30 minutes so that I don't need to enter PIN in normal situations but have a piece of mind if I left my phone somewhere, it will be locked after 30 minutes.
In the old Windows Mobile days, you can hit power button the turn off the screen but you also can press and hold End Call button to lock the phone. Two separate buttons for two separate functions.
That is how my other two Sammy are as well as my captivate, og atrix, attic 2 were.
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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planoman said:
You could always set you screen timeout to 15 seconds.
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Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
foxbat121 said:
Then I will not use a PIN lock at all. 15 seconds means I have to use PIN all the time.
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Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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planoman said:
Only if you press the power button. If the screen times out at 15 seconds, the pin lock timer kicks in which for you is 30 minutes. Your lock screen works regularly unless you press the power button to turn off and "lock" the screen.
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You are right. I mis-read. I'm already on 15-sec screen time out. It is still too long for me when I'm done using the phone and need to put into my pocket.
Then add a small app to your home screen which will give you 1-touch phone lock. https://market.android.com/details?id=com.droidmania.lockscreenwidget&feature=search_result
There are many others - some appear to lock and shut the screen down, some just lock.
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
camaroz28 said:
I'm pretty sure this isn't a bug, I think they just changed the way the phone is designed to lock. My captivate always locked when you pushed the button right away, I like the way it works in my Note a lot better as I will push the button by accident or habit and realize I didn't finish what I was doing. My timeout is only like 15 seconds though.
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The new time out features are introduced in GingerBread. So, I'm sure the Captivate with the new GB udpate will have the similar feature now.
They may have changed it, but as you said it is not the way other Samsung phones have been. Not a big deal for me, but I wanted folks who have like a 30 minute timer on the lockscreen to know their phone is not locked when they use the power button to turn off the screen like it would have been with other Samsung phones.
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Help! In trying to get my swipe lock screen to self-actvate when the screen turns off, I've managed to make the problem worse.
I made it PIN lock, intending to return to Swipe after testing. Now there are NO options for locking except PIN and no obvious way to clear it. I've read all kinds of suggestions, none of which worked. Surely this is not a "feature"?
Edit: Oh, duh. I can't believe this isn't documented somewhere. So you just go to the settings menu under Lock Screen and it says PIN. You touch that and it asks you to confirm your PIN. When you do you are presented with all the options again (including Swipe). Whew! Now if only the #%@#$ thing would engage when the screen turns off like it should!
EDIT: this issue was caused by the double tap to lock screen from nova prime.
Hello,
Sorry mods if there's another thread with this issue but I didn't find it.
So my problem appeared 2 days ago. At first I thought my phone was restarting in my pocket but that wasn't the case. Almost every time I try to unlock my phone using the finger print I get this message "use backup password instead of fingerprint sensor because of security policy".
Do you have this issue? How did you solve it?
Galaxy s6 edge emerald green SMG 925F, Android version 6.0.1. Kernel 3.10. 61-7884513. Security patch may 1 2016.
Thank you!
Edit: screenshot: http://imgur.com/eY5Fpka
Hello,
I think this is related to the last update. It happens if you lock the screen with an app, not if you use the power button ? It is like that on mine.
Sorry for my english
styx42 said:
Hello,
I think this is related to the last update. It happens if you lock the screen with an app, not if you use the power button ? It is like that on mine.
Sorry for my english
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I came back here to edit the post. Yup, that's exactly what was happening. I have Nova prime and I was using the double tap gesture to lock the screen.
Any way to solve this "bug"? I always use a software lock to preserve the physical button and now I have to use the button to be able to use fingerprint wth??
Hi. Just wondering if it has tap to wake or if placing your finger on the scanner will wake the device? Thanks
I am curious about this as well
from what I've seen on videos tapping on screen on the wrong spot would illuminate a purple fingerprint where you should put your finger, placing it again on top of that figure would unlock, an you have to actually press firmly not just slight touch as external FP sensors. If you press in the right spot at the first try it unlocks with only just that one single press. I'm hoping it is accurate enough so after we develop some muscle memory it unlocks at the first press 9/10 times.
I wished it had double tap anywhere to wake up/see lock screen/start face id though
Can confirm, tapping only shows where the fingerprint reader is. If you just straight put your finger on it the phone will unlock.
That is so good though..... No need to use power button. Plus if you use smart lock...i assume if your in your home or safe area.... You can avoid even using the fingerprint?
eXelium said:
Can confirm, tapping only shows where the fingerprint reader is. If you just straight put your finger on it the phone will unlock.
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Bigal77 said:
That is so good though..... No need to use power button. Plus if you use smart lock...i assume if your in your home or safe area.... You can avoid even using the fingerprint?
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To be honest Mate 20 was silent about smart lock for now. It didn't auto suggest smart lock for any of BT devices I paired or the home Wi-Fi. Maybe I have to enable it manually. Weird the LG V20 I am coming from tried to shove that in my face on all ocassions.
... I did some digging, looks like smart lock for unlocking is not present (Smart Lock itself is on the phone).