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Hi everyone, I have the OnePlus X and very happy with it, but in the back of my mind there's still that small issue that's it has last year specs, now gearbest has the Xiaomi Mi4c for £150, £30 cheaper then the OnePlus X, I just want to hear you opinion, if you would swap the X with the Mi4c, considering the that the Mi4c has up to date specs, IR blaster, better camera and a CM13 build already... Looking at this seems like a no brainer, but for some reason I still feel like I should stay with the X
Let me know your thoughts and have a awesome Christmas...
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Mi4c is like a polycarbinate OPX that runs faster and lasts longer. The only issue would be network support so check the bands first. I suggest you spend a little extra to get the 3/32GB version as no SD card is supported.
OnePlus X , definitely
Karly Johnston said:
Mi4c is like a polycarbinate OPX that runs faster and lasts longer. The only issue would be network support so check the bands first. I suggest you spend a little extra to get the 3/32GB version as no SD card is supported.
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Runs faster where? You mean everyday life/use or the difference is only notable on heavy usage? And what about smoothness?
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hugoprh said:
Hi everyone, I have the OnePlus X and very happy with it, but in the back of my mind there's still that small issue that's it has last year specs, now gearbest has the Xiaomi Mi4c for £150, £30 cheaper then the OnePlus X, I just want to hear you opinion, if you would swap the X with the Mi4c, considering the that the Mi4c has up to date specs, IR blaster, better camera and a CM13 build already... Looking at this seems like a no brainer, but for some reason I still feel like I should stay with the X
Let me know your thoughts and have a awesome Christmas...
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Xiaomi better HW, 1+X better OS(in US)
i do agree mi4c has better hw but opx will have better dev support in the long run. miui updates do come in on a weekly basis with their beta roms but lack in custom roms. Mi4c cm13 has bugs still and so as opx's cm13. do note that miui rom runs heavily as well. it all comes down to tuning in the end of the day really.
Yeah, I'll stay with the OPX for now, hopefully the dev support will continue, now that MasterAwesome has stopped developing for OPX =( he help loads with the progress of CM12.1, if the OPX has the same support has the original OPO, then yes, this will be totally worth it
Thanks for your opinion guys =D
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Runs faster where? You mean everyday life/use or the difference is only notable on heavy usage? And what about smoothness?
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Runs faster everywhere, especially in gaming and web browsing. Mi4c also has much faster internal NAND as Oneplus really cheaped out on emmc. It might not look like a flagship, but it sure runs like one. The 801 was beast in its day but it is two years old now. It isn't Armv8, doesn't support Open GL 3.1, isn't 64 bit, has slow storage... it is over a year behind the internals of Mi4c and its performance confirms this. Not to mention battery life is 40% better on the Mi4c. It has three ROMs out not to mention the entire MIUI community. It checks out as a better device unless you just care about looks. That goes to OPX.
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Runs faster everywhere, especially in gaming and web browsing. Mi4c also has much faster internal NAND as Oneplus really cheaped out on emmc. It might not look like a flagship, but it sure runs like one. The 801 was beast in its day but it is two years old now. It isn't Armv8, doesn't support Open GL 3.1, isn't 64 bit, has slow storage... it is over a year behind the internals of Mi4c and its performance confirms this. Not to mention battery life is 40% better on the Mi4c. It has three ROMs out not to mention the entire MIUI community. It checks out as a better device unless you just care about looks. That goes to OPX.
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I think you're wrong. --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5tU9lBjQ4
I'm currently using CM12.1 (stable 3.0) by MasterAawesome. Also I have used Mi4c, its a good performer. In the end it's Oneplus X which feels way more luxurious in hand than Mi4c. Also dev support for O+X is on rise. MasterAwesome's build already running just fine, not to mention three are some things yet to be fixed. On other side O+X's kernel has been made public. WHICH leads to some serious kernel build for stock OxygenOS e.g. Blue_spark by know name here on XDA. I would definitely not hesitate recommending Oneplus X over Mi4c.
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4c: Plastic feeling too strong
Xiaomi 4C is too thick and heavy. I much prefer X.
I own both I I can't say which one is the best.
It depends of your priority.
For heavy use and gaming, I would recommend Mi4c (if the 32Go are enought for your games / music....). Battery is really good.
For other use, I would recommand OPX. The screen is better. I find it more ergonomical or practical to use. Don't know why, it's just a felling. Battery is not bad at all. Dieep Idle, is good.
I can last around 2,5 days with a little use (airplane during night, gmail synchro and phone, something like 3H screen on on this period.)
There are others Pro / Cons : NFC / Tuner Radio....
Ah, and reverse thread :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-4c/general/mi-4c-oneplus-x-t3240885
It my moderately extensive battery testing, the OPX smoked the Mi4c (OPX best = 7 hours 51 minutes, while Mi4C best was 5 hours 30 minutes) in the web page refresh test, and matched the Mi4c in the video playback test (best score from both was 6 hours 45 minutes). Yes, this is not "real world" usage OST tests, but they are indicative.
Also note that Mi4c kernel has not been released and may never be released.
The hardware differences powerwise (SoC etc...), while measurable, is not something you'd ever notice in real life usage unless rendering video or compiling code.
Mi4c has a better camera, but will anyone notice if you're only posting on Facebook and in emails, eg digital sharing / not making big prints? Probably not. The IR remote is a real positive for Mi4c if you have devices you'd really use it with. For myself, the possibility of TF SD expansion with the OPX is a far bigger bonus than IR remote.
I'm not downing the Mi4c. It's a great choice, but in terms of day-to-day typical and most beyond typical usage, the benefits of the stronger SoC and better camera aren't enough to recommend it over the OPX with TF SD slot, already released kernel and likely much broader custom ROM support for the foreseeable future.
So I went completely different way xD, I ordered a Huawei P8, I saw one for £165 and went for it, I know that dev support is non existing, but with Android 6 already available, I decided to try it, the design seems impressive and reviews say wonders about the camera, very important for me, with 2 young kids, a good camera is important, OPX was not bad at all, but some detail is missing from the photos...
I'll probably keep the P8 for a week or 2 and then I'll move along
Thanks everyone for you opinions =D and have a good year =D
Hi guys, I'm Hosso, sorry my poor English
Please let me know how is this phone in real life? Many mixed reviews are confusing me. Also please understand that I live in Mongolia and when I purchase something from US it will take 3-4 weeks to get here and purchase is not good/faulty then impossible to return, so I have to be very careful.
My current phone is Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and it is dying. When I compare SGNote 3 and Oneplus X in GSMArena I see almost same specs such as Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, Adreno 330. I installed Cyanogenmod on my SGNote 3 when CM was available and still with CM ever since.
I want a phone with good battery life, good camera and good GPS, because I do lots of traveling, hiking, camping and taking outdoor pictures. But this time I can spend only $250-$350.
If software is only an issue on Oneplus X then how is it perform in CM? I've been using all my previous phones with CM, I have very good experience with CM, if all problems is related to Oxygen OS then I'm happy to install CM. But how stable is current CM?
My current choices are below, if you were me which one would you choose? Also if there are any other recommendation please let me know.
- Oneplus X (Good price, looks nice, to me small is really good, for one handed use in cycling, driving, hiking etc. But unknown to this brand and there are so many mixed reviews are scaring me, specs are outdated) $249
- Nexus 5X (Looks nice, smaller, fingerprint scanner but mixed reviews, medium spec) $349
- Nexus 6 (Water resistant, good reviews but discontinued, too big) $349
I hope I find my solution here and I think this is the best community in the internet
Thank you guys.
Hosso
hbayar_morph said:
Hi guys, I'm Hosso, sorry my poor English
Please let me know how is this phone in real life? Many mixed reviews are confusing me. Also please understand that I live in Mongolia and when I purchase something from US it will take 3-4 weeks to get here and purchase is not good/faulty then impossible to return, so I have to be very careful.
My current phone is Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and it is dying. When I compare SGNote 3 and Oneplus X in GSMArena I see almost same specs such as Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400, Adreno 330. I installed Cyanogenmod on my SGNote 3 when CM was available and still with CM ever since.
I want a phone with good battery life, good camera and good GPS, because I do lots of traveling, hiking, camping and taking outdoor pictures. But this time I can spend only $250-$350.
If software is only an issue on Oneplus X then how is it perform in CM? I've been using all my previous phones with CM, I have very good experience with CM, if all problems is related to Oxygen OS then I'm happy to install CM. But how stable is current CM?
My current choices are below, if you were me which one would you choose? Also if there are any other recommendation please let me know.
- Oneplus X (Good price, looks nice, to me small is really good, for one handed use in cycling, driving, hiking etc. But unknown to this brand and there are so many mixed reviews are scaring me, specs are outdated) $249
- Nexus 5X (Looks nice, smaller, fingerprint scanner but mixed reviews, medium spec) $349
- Nexus 6 (Water resistant, good reviews but discontinued, too big) $349
I hope I find my solution here and I think this is the best community in the internet
Thank you guys.
Hosso
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Why is your note 3 dying? Perhaps its better for you to buy a new battery (or other parts). Because in performance it will be almost the same.
My experience with opx is that it's the best < 140x70 mm with 5" device for me. Close followed is xiaomi mi4, but lack of amoled and design quality (aluminum trims) made me go for opx. My sot is stable around 6 hours with stock oos and root.
Mi4c has better battery life and better camera (when not tweaked). Mi5 has better hardware.
Huawei is an alternative too.
But both are less custom roms capable!
OPX has a tons of alternatives!
PS : it doesn't come from the US...
Well to be honest this OPX device maybe is not the best spec phone ever, but im my opinion for its price its a master piece, ther way it performs is absolutely great in every situation. From my view the important thing was to have a device with a good GPS, this phone is awesome at that, and of course, I wont use my phone to gaming but to work, that is the main point.
Everything depends on your necessities, mines are absolutely fulfilled with this phone.
Positive points are, overall performance and multitasking, its very fast 0 lag from my experience.
As negative I have some too, im honest, The gyroscope is not 100% precise, but nothing important just some little degrees.
And another point is that the back glass can get little scratches very easy.
I cant say nothign about that the gaming is bad cause I dont buy this device for gaming , instead of that I would have bough a gtx 970 for that purpose.
And the most important thing, and what for what I finallly decided to buy this phone, the magnificent team of independent developers, specially this community that bring us many possibilites and tweak our phones to be even more satisfied with them
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Mi4c has better battery life and better camera (when not tweaked). Mi5 has better hardware.
Huawei is an alternative too.
But both are less custom roms capable!
OPX has a tons of alternatives!
PS : it doesn't come from the US...
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Mi4C has touchscreen problems and no custom kernels. But a better CPU.
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Why is your note 3 dying? Perhaps its better for you to buy a new battery (or other parts). Because in performance it will be almost the same.
My experience with opx is that it's the best < 140x70 mm with 5" device for me. Close followed is xiaomi mi4, but lack of amoled and design quality (aluminum trims) made me go for opx. My sot is stable around 6 hours with stock oos and root.
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Thank you guys for taking time to answers my questions to help me make my decision. I just ordered onyx OPX .
About my Note 3, last summer I have dropped it into the river. Technician said he fixed it but it is acting weirdly since then, specially last 2 months, such as randomly restarts, freezes etc, so annoying. And I'm starting to like small phones, after using my girlfriend's Galaxy S5, it is so easy to use when I'm in active situations
I purchased a Note 9 when it was released and loved it but eventually caught the Huawei/Honor bug and ended up selling the Note 9. After I'm now looking for a phone to replace it and the only one that takes my fancy is the Mate 20 Pro.
My question is - Is it worth it? Is there a better Huawei/Honor phones that would be a better purchase at this point?
Thank you x
If you are able to wait until end of March, the new P30 pro is rumored to have a similar screen size but should have improved cameras.
Otherwise, the mate 20 pro is probably their best (or p20 pro if you want a smaller size which I'm guessing you don't).
I would only say that if you take a lot of selfies, you will probably be disappointed (fixed focus, post processing is meh) but otherwise, lots of flexibility with the cameras and I personally use nova launcher so I don't see their original Gui which is often a complaint.
Edit: you could also check the Mate 20 X. Bigger screen (7.2") and stylus support if that's your thing. Same cameras. Waterdrop type notch (no face id) and you lose a few extras like ip68.
I think it would be wise to wait at the moment. Not only have we got the P30 series soon but also the Galaxy 10 range later this month and they look like they might be quite good.
No why support a company that has turned its back on developers by not allowing unlocking the bootloader after allowing it for so long
Wait for s10 or p30.
i decided to ditch the mate 20 pro after a month. (poor battery life compared to p20 pro and regular mate 20) and the screen issues.
i went to for the bigger mate 20 x as a second phone (media games internet etc) cuz of its battery, screen, speakers, real FP scanner, no screen issues and the same cameras as the mate 20 pro.
waiting for the s10 plus to replace my note 9 as a primary phone
Thanks for all the replies. Personally don't care about bootloaders and I never root my phones anymore. But concerned about the amount of replies telling me not to go for it.
As I'm currently using a £250 mid-range Honor Play phone, I'm really wanting to upgrade asap and with the deals on new mate 20 pros at £600 floating around, I still may ignore advice and go for it! I guess I could always upgrade again in a few months time to the P30 or S10!
Thanks again for all the replies, I appreciate it.
Don't get me wrong. Personally, I think it's a great phone and if you're in the market for an upgrade and don't care about timing then go for it. I was merely saying that if you're after the latest and greatest then waiting a few extra weeks might be prudent.
I've not rooted a phone for ages, I don't think there's really the need so much now that Android has gotten so much better over the years, so that aspect doesn't worry me either.
Love the mate 20 Pro and that's coming from a note 9. Software not as refined as sammys with a few glitches but works well
I sold my P20 Pro and got the Mate 20 Pro .. much better. IMO I'd grab a M20P if you find one at a good price, the P30 Pro won't be cheap and I doubt the specs will over shadow the M20P, maybe better camera (slightly) and no notch .. not flagship selling points worth the higher price if compared to a discounted M20P.
My 2 cents ..
Hello
Am thinking of getting the mate 10 pro (north america ver). It looks as price and specs wise is pretty good.
Would u owners of the phone recommend of buying it?
Thx in advance
Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
So yeah, on paper it looks nice but expect real world performance to be much much worse than what you see in comparisons between snapdragon 835 ( I'm not sure if that's the one s8 has) and kirin 970. It's not worth the money when what you get performs like lower class cpu of not even worse - 99% of the time due to poor thermal relief methods.
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Nope, I'd buy s8 instead or something else like onpleus 7t with even better cpu if available for same price.
They both should offer better performance, mate 10 pro throttles like crazy - to the point where it constantly is above throttling point of 37° C
Just a normal use keeps your device at 40/41° C, few more degrees, at 45° C iirc and your performance dips even further.
They cheaped out on cooling solutions and it hurts really bad, even in every day tasks. You throttle before you even step into cpu/gpu heavy applications, once inside you get horrendous performance out of a cpu that should be able to push 90% of the content at stable 60 fps.
I'm thinking of modifying mine but the design choices make it really hard to do so ?
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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That, but keep in mind that custom ROMs is a no go with this phone or any other Huawei models. Or remove or bloatware from Huawei.
If the above are important to you maybe OnePlus?
In the end is up to you. If you've found a perfect offer and you do not care about unlocked bootloaders, custom ROMs, rooting etc, then go for it. Great camera for the price.
base how you use this phone. you just call and massage, game or take some photos at the same time. keep use it.
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I bought the Mate 10 Pro (BLA-L29) new in February 2020 and have not looked back since as it suits my usage perfectly. In the end it is your choice, as our usage patterns are definitely different. I mainly use it for the excellent camera, have it on a HDMI dock during the day as a light usage laptop via desktop experience. Some Asphalt 9 (which does heat up the phone on best quality) and some 1080p movies at night. Being 2017 model, it might be deemed "old"; it does do what it is supposed to excellently though.
Awaiting the Emui 10 update that should drop this month in South Africa. Good luck with your decision.
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Sure enough, each to themselves ?
But the fact remains that even for your light use a different phone would bring much smoother experience.
We are not really spoiled for choice in South Africa in regards to phones. Mobile companies here are mainly pushing newest iphones, huaweis and Samsungs at premium contract prices locked down for 36 months (for some). And at the other side of the price spectrum some really nasty cheap ones. We don't get many Xiaomi notes here (my previous one was Mido RN4), so it really was a no-brainer to get the Mate 10 Pro at 2 to 3 times less cost. Sucks that the bootloader is locked though, would have liked to run AICP or AEX
as a backup phone for sure i will choose mate 10(not pro version) , because it suite all i need ,i got a brand new old stock mate 10 for cheap price $139 at my country and its still on ancient firmware where i can unlock the bootloader using dc unlock .
Thank u all for ur helpful insights. Current am using mate 9, but I think I ma go for mate 20 although much more expensive then mate 10
Peace
Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
just boughtit earlier today, worth it imo unless you have access to k20 pro. In my country K20 Pro and k20 considered illegal(need to check the official mi website, if its there based on your country,its legal. in my case there is no K20 and k20 pro in my country) so i can't buy it (i do can buy but it will have imei problem and the device can't be used anymore after 14 days)
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Looking for a good all around phone,
Needs to have speed and a good camera
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Don't know what country you are from bro, but here's my take.
The Poco is still an amazing phone that holds up to this date. It has the latest Q software and current MIUI 11, which should be updated to MIUI 12 this year. This is a company that took care of the original buyers (since Poco originally under xiaomi) by providing updates up to this day. Sure it's not perfect, but what device and manufacturer is. But note that this may be the last update we are going to get. This is almost a 2 year old phone, and as you know most manufacturers don't even provide a 3rd major update (this was an exception). Don't fret though as this is a phone that a lot of enthusiasts have and a lot are still making ROMS for this phone, so even if we may not get an update beyond this year, we may still get some from the devs here.
Another point to take is that this phone is still a beast. Forget those guys who claims their phones slow down etc, most of them rely on benchmarks which is not always the way to see whether a phone is bad or not. Based on personal experiences, I've rarely experienced any lags on this phone and neither had any touch issues. Btw, I've unlocked the phone and rooted, but aside from substratum and lucky patcher for some games, I've seldom made any other changes on it (of course providing root access to greenify and sd cleaner, but nothing major like adding xposed and such). This may be why I've never had such issues because as you know if you have altered the phone a lot, complications may arise if you update.
So like i said, this phone holds up. I play NBA2K20, Asphalt, Pubg and other mobile intensive games and rarely experienced any major issues. The sd845 holds up.
As for cams, that may be the weakest point of this phone. I mean for the price it is great. It provides a solid enough cam experience that you can use it to capture good photos for insta and fb. But it won't blow you away. The front cam is great. The IR Cam is so useful in any situation to unlock the phone whether it's on your desk, even in the dark.
Battery life holds up nicely. Sure it doesn't give me a long life like before, but during intense gaming of about 3 hours, I still have about 25 to 30 percent left. The charging is good too. It's not as blazing fast as most phones today, but should suffice.
That said. Here's a major talking point. The phone is old, it shows in the cam and possibly no further major update (aside from maybe security patches), but you can rely on xda devs to provide support still. But if you can get your hands on a K20 Pro or K30 Pro, then get your hands on them. Not only will you get either last year's phone with about a year or two more of updates, but updated specs, or the current redmi flagship killer with about 2 years to 3 (if they follow the current poco trend) but you'd have a future proof phone as it has 5G and a more versatile cam array with the latest processor.
This depends on your budget too. If you're looking for a lower price than the last year redmi or current, then I'd go with the Poco than latest midrangers due to the power of the SD845, I'm not a cam user much anyway. But if you need a better cam and not much into power then the current midrangers can offer that for you and I'm not disparaging midrangers, the current processors are powerful, but not yet to the power of the sd845 despite it being a 2 to 3 year old processor
Just got it this week, working great! I had less budget and great expectations!!
So got myself a 8gb armored edition!
I am not big fan of taking selfies and pics.
Poco f1 has got update to Android 10. The snap 845 is still being used by some premium phones.