I think it looks good! The Snapdragon chipset makes it more better
What do you think about the phone?
Spoiler: Leaked specifications, news
The leaked specifications of the S23 Ultra (before announcement/release):
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(Camera is 200MP by leaked specifications)
News about leaked specs:
New Samsung Leak Reveals Galaxy S23 Custom Chipset
Samsung's Galaxy S23 range will be the fastest Android smartphones ever made, but at what cost?
www.forbes.com
New Samsung Leak Reveals Galaxy S23 Price Shock
Samsung's Galaxy S23 range will be up to $300 more expensive internationally...
www.forbes.com
S23 Ultra reviews:
NothingButTech - Samsung S23 Ultra: Real Day In The Life Review!
Mrwhosetheboss - The Samsung S23 Ultra is secretly INCREDIBLE
Matthew Moniz - Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Review - INCREDIBLE Cameras!
dem_crumblies_techYT - Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra Review vs Samsung Z Fold 4. Hmm...
In Depth Tech Reviews - iPhone 14 Pro Max vs S23 Ultra vs Pixel 7 Pro - Speed, Battery & Thermal Tests
Specifications:
S23 Ultra Accessories (creds to @Benny-Danny):
I think it's much of the same as far as the Ultra goes. I have the s22 ultra and my gripe is battery life. Improve battery life on the s23 and I am all in.
Think I will pass on this one. Maybe next year they will do away with the damn curved screen.
I have an S22U and it's a pretty good phone. If the updates to the processor and camera yield real improvements, the S23U should be the boss. I've had Pixels since day one and they've always been my 1st choice but the P6P and P7P were a little buggy for me. The 7P has been rebooting while charging despite several factory resets. Other annoyances that aren't huge, just annoying. The Galaxys just work. If the camera catches up to the Pixel's, I might jump. Who am I kidding. I'll continue to have both because I can't help it. Hoping for a good trade in deal this year, looking at the green one.
I have a s21 ultra. Loved the phone. I dropped and cracked the screen. So now I must buy a new phone. So I'm in 2 minds. Should I wait something like a month and pay an high price for s23u or should I just buy now the s22u at a good discount price? What are you guys thought on this.
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I have a s21 ultra. Loved the phone. I dropped and cracked the screen. So now I must buy a new phone. So I'm in 2 minds. Should I wait something like a month and pay an high price for s23u or should I just buy now the s22u at a good discount price? What are you guys thought on this.
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Do you still have warranty on the s21u? Or do you mind spending some money on the new screen?
I recommend the s22 ultra, it's a very good phone in my opinion, and also it has a nice camera. Wish I had that phone, it's so good
Warranty is finish on s21 ultra for screen replacement. And a new screen is almost the cost of the phone second hand. I end up ordering a s22 ultra today. Is almost half price of the launch price of s23 ultra. So I think will be a better buy. If difference was small I would wait. But I got it at around 40 % cheaper of the original Samsung price and is brand new with 24 months warranty. Also managed to get the s908e d/s which is snapdragon version. So I'm happy.
If it offers substantial improvements in battery life, camera and video performance I'll consider it.
I'm sure it will be the crème de la crème of Android flagship phones for '23.
I'm with @hand-filer here - for me it really boils down to battery life and camera improvements....
oh yes, and a non-Exynos device with a (hopefully) better modem
I added the leaked specifications of the s23 ultra in the thread. Lets see if it's gonna be true
hand-filer said:
If it offers substantial improvements in battery life, camera and video performance I'll consider it.
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For me, these things are important too! I like making photos so camera is important for me. Hope the s23u's gonna be good
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I added the leaked specifications of the s23 ultra in the thread. Lets see if it's gonna be true
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The camera is wrong. It's not 108 it's 200MP.
borijess said:
The camera is wrong. It's not 108 it's 200MP.
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Oh wow! I guess GSMArena screwed something up then!
I hated samsung phones but recently (latest 2-3 generation) those are really good piece of hardware and software , I do really like S22 ultra , I went from s22U to pixel7pro but pixel in my opinion is no as good as S22U , of course they can fight with whos is better for photos , but overal for sure S22u , I cannot wait and feel what S23U can offer .
Spain, Germany, Netherlands and Belgium are going to have to pay $325 more than the U.S. for the S23U??? Wow that's absolutely ridiculous! I am in the U.S. but still if any part of this true I can't see people in those countries considering the S23U is worth upgrading to with that kind of price hike. Doesn't seem fair.
New Samsung Leak Reveals Galaxy S23 Price Shock
Samsung's Galaxy S23 range will be up to $300 more expensive internationally...
www.forbes.com
There's 20% VAT more or less in most countries in Europe - so actually it's only 100USD more. Actually except for the last 3-4 years computers/phones/gadgets have always been a bit more expensive.
China has really low prices. Not sure what Samsung is gonna charge there - but the domestic competition is much cheaper for equivalent hardware (yeah not software and upgrade schedule which really isn't par). I guess 30% improvement in battery life minimum for S23U, 40% for Plus/vanilla because they very likely now have LTPO screens too which they didn't have before. That will be the biggest change besides higher performance.
Historically prices in the EU have been above those in the US, due to VAT reasons (as already pointed out) and because it's a different market where apparently companies think they can charge more....
Even with the price increase I am very curious about the S23U - this could indeed become my "phone for the next years", if all hopes around the Snapdragon chipset and modem become true ...
Given that there could be some discounts and goodies (at least there have been at recent launches) the price in the end may be still ok, even though it's going to be at the upper end of OK for me....
So in the end I am looking forward to the S23U and will definitely try it
I hope the S23U is gonna get released in carrier shops too (It's rare in my town to have some expensive phone like this in shop) so I can try it out! I'm happy to hear everyone's opinions on this phone.
What do you think, S23U's gonna have any custom ROM's or not?
The hardware updates along with the OneUI 5.1 update will make the S23U the #1 beast. 5.1 is adding more features than the 5.0 release. I think they saved the good stuff for the new phone release.. As far as ROMs, it would be hard to improve on the stock OS. The phone will be nice but probably won't get much love here. XDA used to be a fun place to talk phones, especially new releases. Everything is negative now - everything sucks - the camera sucks, the price sucks, the battery life sucks, the size sucks, no SD card, no headphone jack. Jeez, no wonder this place is deserted.
borijess said:
I think it's much of the same as far as the Ultra goes. I have the s22 ultra and my gripe is battery life. Improve battery life on the s23 and I am all in.
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I sold mine for this reason. I doubt it will be a huge improvement with the 23 without a larger battery.
Related
I know the mega just came out. And here in the usa its very rare. Anyone jumping the boat. I think I am. The screen res and the speed of the cpu. Definitely.
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Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Screen: 6.44 inch 1080p Triluminous display (342ppi)
CPU: Snapdragon 800 quad-core Krait 400 @ 2.2Ghz
Memory: 2GB RAM + 16GB storage
Cameras: 8mp back + 2mp front
Dimensions: 179.4 x 92.2 x 6.5 mm (212 g)
Positive points over the Mega
+ Better processor and RAM
+ Higher resolution display
+ Uses pencils and pens as stylus
+ Waterproof and dustproof
Negative points over the Mega
- Has no LED flash
- Non removable battery
- Will not fit regular pockets
- Large bezels
- On-screen buttons will make actual usable screen less than 1080p and 6.44 inches
- More expensive
Spec Comparison
* The Xperia ZU is 11.8mm taller and 4.2mm wider than the Mega
* The Mega has 200mah more batter capacity than the Xperia ZU
* The Xperia ZU is 13 grams heavier than the Mega
* The Xperia ZU is more aimed at the Note 3 not the Mega
gx3k said:
Sony Xperia Z Ultra
Screen: 6.44 inch 1080p Triluminous display (342ppi)
CPU: Snapdragon 800 quad-core Krait 400 @ 2.2Ghz
Memory: 2GB RAM + 16GB storage
Cameras: 8mp back + 2mp front
Dimensions: 79.4 x 92.2 x 6.5 mm (212 g)
Positive points over the Mega
+ Better processor and RAM
+ Higher resolution display
+ Uses pencils and pens as stylus
+ Waterproof and dustproof
Negative points over the Mega
- Has no LED flash
- Non removable battery
- Will not fit regular pockets
- Large bezels
- On-screen buttons will make actual usable screen less than 1080p and 6.44 inches
- More expensive
Spec Comparison
* The Xperia ZU is 11.8mm taller and 4.2mm wider than the Mega
* The Mega has 200mah more batter capacity than the Xperia ZU
* The Xperia ZU is 13 grams heavier than the Mega
* The Xperia ZU is more aimed at the Note 3 not the Mega
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I think the lenght of the Xperia is 179.4mm !! (typo error)
Tilagoon said:
I think the lenght of the Xperia is 179.4mm !! (typo error)
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Corrected, thanks :laugh:
I'm very tempted to buy the Mega 6.3 this week as I can get the White 16GB LTE version for £377 from eBay.
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Corrected, thanks :laugh:
I'm very tempted to buy the Mega 6.3 this week as I can get the White 16GB LTE version for £377 from eBay.
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Which seller is that from?
If the shape is like on the few speculation pictures, it is out of the question. I carry my mega in the front jeans
pocket, therefor the edges must be rounded. I have a Sony Xperia S and I dislike the sharp edges alot.
Also, the mega has fantastic battery time and belive it or not my cpu processing is fast and the GPU even
faster.
So I will pass new tablets and let the mega "mature" with tweaks, kernels etc.
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Which seller is that from?
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It's from this seller but they changed the price to £446 3 hours ago
If you have an eBay account you have not opened for a long time you'll get 10% off. It was £419 this morning minus the discount = £377. Now I can only get it for £401.
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s-flow said:
If the shape is like on the few speculation pictures, it is out of the question. I carry my mega in the front jeans
pocket, therefor the edges must be rounded. I have a Sony Xperia S and I dislike the sharp edges alot.
Also, the mega has fantastic battery time and belive it or not my cpu processing is fast and the GPU even
faster.
So I will pass new tablets and let the mega "mature" with tweaks, kernels etc.
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Here's a size comparison of the Xperia Z ultra with the other phablets and the Nexus 7. For an extra 0.14 mm screen you get extra 11.8mm height and extra 4.2mm width.
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Why most people prefer Samsung's phone design:
I had such high hopes for this device... Then I saw the specs
- An all bells 'n whistles camera but no flash. WTF??? Where did Sony get this idea from? The first iPhone?
- Gigantic bezel but on-screen buttons. Are you serious Sony?
- Designed like a brick and probably with the ergonomics of one. A phone or phablet is supposed to be held in your hand. Curved shapes are more ergonomic and comfortable to hold. People who prefer design over ergonomics and comfort should hang their phones on a wall or put them on a stand to be displayed, not used.
- Average (at best) battery capacity. Certainly lower than Samsung's.
- No stylus included. I don't care if you can write with any pen/pencil. Unless you carry one in your pocket/purse, this feature is useless and even if you do carry one, it is still much more practical and faster to pull the stylus out of the phone itself.
- Glass shell, from what I've read. Tempered glass or not, it breaks more easily than plastic and adds unnecessary weight. Again, a phone is supposed to be a tool, something practical, not a design object. If you can have a nice design without sacrificing functionality, fine, but I would never sacrifice functionality over design.
- Last, but not least, it is not pocketable unless you wear the trousers of an NBA player.
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- Gigantic bezel but on-screen buttons. Are you serious Sony?
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I know, it's a joke of a century. It seems this phone has an identity crisis. The whole point of a phablet is to have smal bezels, the top and bottom bezels on this thing are almost the same as on a tablet. Horrible design failure.
Looks awesome, but personally I'll be happy sticking with my 9205 because while I was able to buy my mega for £380 a week ago, the Sony won't be available for that sort of price for 6 months at LEAST! Having a snapdragon 800 and 1080p screen would definitely be nice, but I'm really happy with both the speed and screen on my Mega anyway. :good:
That is one beautiful and powerful device! I can't imagine having a phone that large though. The GN2 was big enough for me and going to an HTC One felt great since I could use it easier with one hand.
Such a shame.....but then again, maybe when I hold one, things might change.
I hate on screen buttons anyway so this is a definite non-starter.
The Sony Xperia Z Ultra will cost 729 euros (£618 / $954) when it's released on Q3 according to Sony France.
That's almost £200 over the Mega's price, I'd expect more for that difference. Good luck Sony.
Damn, Now after everything I gotta think about it. All I do is review the phones and then sell them. So maybe Ill buy it and hold it until the note 3 comes out. The only thing keeping my mind on it is the specs! :laugh:
Samsung 6.3 is much better overall. The only thing Z Ultra has and edge is powerful snapdragon 800, but with a modest 3000mah its a joke. Probably it can last 4-5 hrs, this phone need a minimum 3500mah battery or better.
Im also keeping an eye on the new galaxy s4 being released in south korea. Probably works with tmous newly 1700mhz refarmed.
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Mass production of the Note 3 will start in August for a debut in September. It is not like I can't live with my current phone until the Note 3 comes out. It will blow this Sony Note-killer wannabe out of the water.
Anything without SD card and removable battery is out for me. I would like a waterproof Mega but this is not it.
Kangburra said:
Anything without SD card and removable battery is out for me. I would like a waterproof Mega but this is not it.
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It does have an SD slot! Also, you're unlikely to ever see a waterproof phone with removable battery unfortunately. Even the S4 Active uses a sealed back.
stiggy2012 said:
It does have an SD slot! Also, you're unlikely to ever see a waterproof phone with removable battery unfortunately. Even the S4 Active uses a sealed back.
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Er... I think the active does have a user replaceable battery ...
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http://www.technologytell.com/gadge...h-smaller-screen-and-tab-trio-tipped-for-mwc/
Quote:
"The Z2 Ultra, or however it ends up being called, will allegedly go a little smaller on screen real estate this time around, as it tries to more clearly set itself apart from conventional slates.
So we’re looking at a 6.2, maybe 6-incher, with Full or Quad HD resolution, possibly a souped-up battery (Z Ultra’s was pretty terrible), as well as water and dust protection. Any evidence to support all that? Just the word of a few insiders who’ve been right before.
It’s unclear though if the Z2 Ultra is indeed prepped for an MWC intro, as its predecessor is a measly six months old, but the good news is if Sony delays its launch, it might use the extra time to swap Z Ultra’s Snapdragon 800 SoC for an improved S805."
Any truth or just hot air?
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Battery life is good, 6 hours screen on time sometimes
And if they do that just means no more support from Sony
J
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waste of time. releasing it now wont improve performance enough!
At the best we'd get the same processor, bigger battery?? better camera...
My bet is that it will be released after a year of the Ultra being released. They certainly don't want to get apples reputation for releasing a new iPhone every quarter!
mias1 said:
http://www.technologytell.com/gadge...h-smaller-screen-and-tab-trio-tipped-for-mwc/
Quote:
"The Z2 Ultra, or however it ends up being called, will allegedly go a little smaller on screen real estate this time around, as it tries to more clearly set itself apart from conventional slates.
So we’re looking at a 6.2, maybe 6-incher, with Full or Quad HD resolution, possibly a souped-up battery (Z Ultra’s was pretty terrible), as well as water and dust protection. Any evidence to support all that? Just the word of a few insiders who’ve been right before.
It’s unclear though if the Z2 Ultra is indeed prepped for an MWC intro, as its predecessor is a measly six months old, but the good news is if Sony delays its launch, it might use the extra time to swap Z Ultra’s Snapdragon 800 SoC for an improved S805."
Any truth or just hot air?
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Time will tell, I'm extremely interested in what happens with the camera & battery next as these will be Deciding factors regarding my next Sony purchase...
Screw that one! I want this one It looks like a "zero bezel" Sony device, and it looks like pure sex. It's probably fake though, but i'm allowed to dream ain't i?
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nah, couldn't use a 0 bezel, us country bumpkins downunder have farmers hands - real hands
Well if sony decides to go smaller I'm no go. This is my wish. I would go to 6.5" smaller Bazel, better camera and battery and full throttle CPU and flash to use as flashlight and that is all I'm wishing.
Sony would not go anything lesser in terms of screen size for the successor as that will be meaningless.
We already have Z1 for the 5 incher, T2 Ultra for the 6 incher. Releasing Z1 Ultra in 6 inch will confuse the market.
Z Ultra family should remain in the 6.5" range to retain the existing market share of people who wants Ultra Screen.
That is the only reason I bought the Ultra, for the screen else, I would get the Z1 instead.
For speculation, I would want a Z1 Ultra to be 6.5", Snapdragon 805, 13MP camera (20MP would be nicer), 3GB Ram.
hamdogg said:
waste of time. releasing it now wont improve performance enough!
At the best we'd get the same processor, bigger battery?? better camera...
My bet is that it will be released after a year of the Ultra being released. They certainly don't want to get apples reputation for releasing a new iPhone every quarter!
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apple? i think you meant samsung. lol
Why they dont bring great camera to Z2 Ultra
ps000000 said:
Why they dont bring great camera to Z2 Ultra
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1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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Leechoonhwee said:
1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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exactly!
Leechoonhwee said:
1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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exactly!
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Right on the money........
Leechoonhwee said:
1stly the thickness don't permit a great camera
2ndly if they put a great camera into the Z Ultra then, it might affect the sales of Z1.
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Seems like the S4 and Note 3 beating each other previous year because of all the more-or-less same feature set. But even if you equipped the Z2 Ultra with the old 13MP sensor of Xperia Z ones that would not eat Z1 market share i guess.. an extra 0.5mm of thickness with extra 500mAh and 13MP + flash + slightly smaller screen at 6.2 inch will be the best bet for the Z2 Ultra.
The law at Sony's design is always this:
Bigger screen, thinner it is, Smaller Screen, thicker it is. All that to improve the in-hand impression of the handset, so if Sony really goes down into 6.2 inch, i won't complain, because lets face it, 6.4inch already 100% fit into any pocket due to passport width reference. So the only way is down (plus the news of the new 2K screen at 6.2inch) but make it slightly thicker. if Sony wants to improve it into, let say, 6.6 inch in the same dimension of the Z Ultra, i'd imagine many things need to be shuffled like how the G2 was designed, with back buttons, thus breaking the omni balance design and losing the waterproof feature.
hansip87 said:
Seems like the S4 and Note 3 beating each other previous year because of all the more-or-less same feature set. But even if you equipped the Z2 Ultra with the old 13MP sensor of Xperia Z ones that would not eat Z1 market share i guess.. an extra 0.5mm of thickness with extra 500mAh and 13MP + flash + slightly smaller screen at 6.2 inch will be the best bet for the Z2 Ultra.
The law at Sony's design is always this:
Bigger screen, thinner it is, Smaller Screen, thicker it is. All that to improve the in-hand impression of the handset, so if Sony really goes down into 6.2 inch, i won't complain, because lets face it, 6.4inch already 100% fit into any pocket due to passport width reference. So the only way is down (plus the news of the new 2K screen at 6.2inch) but make it slightly thicker. if Sony wants to improve it into, let say, 6.6 inch in the same dimension of the Z Ultra, i'd imagine many things need to be shuffled like how the G2 was designed, with back buttons, thus breaking the omni balance design and losing the waterproof feature.
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Exactly, however since the Ultra have already built a pool of users, it wouldn't hurt to include even a 20MP into the next successor.
If it gets smaller I won't buy it; I have no interest in a smaller screen after using this for as long as I have.
I'd like for them to make it thicker (So they can do the rest of this), and invest in a bigger battery, more internal storage (16GB on a media device like a phablet is absurd), put an LED light in the thing, and do a routine Screen/Processor update, such as the next Snapdragon iteration (The thing AFTER the current S805's that aren't being used yet but are complete), and making the bezels small enough to accomodate a full 6.5" screen.
If I were to get my absolute dream device, it would be all that, but it uses an actual SD card reader rather than a Micro; I find myself butting heads with 64GB now, but I wouldn't have that problem with 128GB (Or more deliciously those 256GB SD cards out there). Besides that, the incremental upgrades are all I really want.
And for that next device, I'd want them to create a cheaper case with their quality with a bigger battery but less overall size to it.
I personally don't want it to get any thicker. The only reason i tolerate its current size is because of its thinness. Also, they can make it smaller without shrinking the screen. There's quite a bit of bezel on the top and bottom of the Ultra.
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I personally don't want it to get any thicker. The only reason i tolerate its current size is because of its thinness. Also, they can make it smaller without shrinking the screen. There's quite a bit of bezel on the top and bottom of the Ultra.
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I'm still of the opinion that the thing is a little too thin for completely comfortable use; Not much so, since any case at all alleviates this, but it's noticeable. I'm not saying double the thickness or anything, but a little thicker so it's more comfortable to hold would be nice. Mostly, though, I just want them to increase the thickness so they CAN remove the bezels; I'm fairly confident that the only reason the bezels are there is because Sony wanted the claim of being the thinnest.
It's all good with me, as I'll most-likely miss this upgrade and go for the next one anyway, but my wish list would be:
MUCH smaller bezels. They could take 3CM of the height of this thing with no detriment to screen size, just by killing the bezels at the top/bottom.
A53/A57 SoC - The phone is fast enough really, but why not eh? I want to be able to mine at 100KH/s on my phone.
Same screen. Literally, the exact same one would be just fine with me.
That's it really. This is the best phone I've ever owned, but I must admit having used/owned it for months now it is a bit too tall. I can't lift my knees above hip-height with it in my pocket or it stabs me in the groin!
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It's all good with me, as I'll most-likely miss this upgrade and go for the next one anyway, but my wish list would be:
MUCH smaller bezels. They could take 3CM of the height of this thing with no detriment to screen size, just by killing the bezels at the top/bottom.
A53/A57 SoC - The phone is fast enough really, but why not eh? I want to be able to mine at 100KH/s on my phone.
Same screen. Literally, the exact same one would be just fine with me.
That's it really. This is the best phone I've ever owned, but I must admit having used/owned it for months now it is a bit too tall. I can't lift my knees above hip-height with it in my pocket or it stabs me in the groin!
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This is my thoughts exactly. I can't imagine using a smaller screen phone after getting used to this.
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Sony have updated their Z1 and Tablet Z. When are we expecting a Z2 Ultra?
Ukbondraider said:
Sony have updated their Z1 and Tablet Z. When are we expecting a Z2 Ultra?
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this is for Xperia Z Ultra Forum only LOL
Ukbondraider said:
Sony have updated their Z1 and Tablet Z. When are we expecting a Z2 Ultra?
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hopefully not anytime soon, its only been out like 6 months, they did release a smaller version of it, the T2 ultra
sony cant really get any bigger without having tablets that you can make and call with
and they might not make one at all if sales werent great
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The improvement might be too minimal i guess. It is like they already reached the maximum size for a phone. Bigger than that it's a tablet. The only improvement they can do might be related to the camera but that's it. Maybe lower power ips screen will be nice to have (I'm not sure if the z ultra screen is really ips, because at some angle, the loss of contrast is still there but still far better than Z1, plus sony never mention ips about z ultra screen, only starting from Z1C) and negligible performance gain with newer soc. Other than that, the Z Ultra is still very much adequate for my needs.
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I don't mine getting a flash and better camera upgrade if there is a Z Ultra 2 on the horizon.
Yeah there is not much that can be done with the Ultra to make it better really.
A better camera for those who care. I dont as I have a camera for that.
A flash would be nice as a flashlight.
And if they could somehow keep it the same way and give me a removable battery then that would be my dream
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The improvement might be too minimal i guess. It is like they already reached the maximum size for a phone. Bigger than that it's a tablet. The only improvement they can do might be related to the camera but that's it. Maybe lower power ips screen will be nice to have (I'm not sure if the z ultra screen is really ips, because at some angle, the loss of contrast is still there but still far better than Z1, plus sony never mention ips about z ultra screen, only starting from Z1C) and negligible performance gain with newer soc. Other than that, the Z Ultra is still very much adequate for my needs.
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They can't or won't make it any bigger. Just check out the Z2 and you'll see that they have made the bezel a little smaller, so they'll probably continue with that. They can also not make it any thinner without either removing the minijack or making a bump on the back, which will ruin their Omni Balance design, so that won't happen either. The Ultra does have an IPS panel, but the "loss of contrast" is actually light from the LEDs. I guess they can do something about that though.
So i guess the Ultra 2 will be just as thin, and probably just as big with a better display (like the one on the Z2), and probably a Snapdragon 801 or 805, and that's pretty much it, i guess?
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Huh?
A flash and brighter screen for starters.
Z Ultra is obscenely behind the times in these two categories when compared with less expensive and even older superphones.
CZ Eddie said:
Huh?
A flash and brighter screen for starters.
Z Ultra is obscenely behind the times in these two categories when compared with less expensive and even older superphones.
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I'd rather have the unsaturated colours on the Ultra.
CZ Eddie said:
Huh?
A flash and brighter screen for starters.
Z Ultra is obscenely behind the times in these two categories when compared with less expensive and even older superphones.
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The Screen is very bright imo, How much bright do you want it to be? Or in other term, how much faster do you want the battery to go down the drain? If i bring it outdoor it's perfectly readable in sunlight, and plus the auto brightness works perfectly.
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Hope there's no such phone like Z2 Ultra,I only want Z Ultra be the Sony's only big phone apart from the T2 something..
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Same size chassis
Bigger screen/smaller bezels
Better speaker
Flash
Better camera
Removable battery
That would make this phone perfect, IMO.
The ZU is like an indie rock band with a good following. It may never be as big as Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga, but people will continue to buy it if it hovers at that phone/tablet border; it's a true phablet. I will buy another with updated hardware. Would they really lose that much by scaling the production back a bit?
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Same size chassis
Bigger screen/smaller bezels
Better speaker
Flash
Better camera
Removable battery
That would make this phone perfect, IMO.
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No, that would make a completely different phone.
I agree on the first two, the speaker is more than ok for me, I don't care for the flash and camera, and I most certainly won't risk the waterproofing for a removable battery (I'm already seeing S5 users crying for their poor phone that opened up while they were diving in the pool...).
Sony has gone with the tablet timetable for the ZU, AKA once a year, and that's fine by me.
I don't feel the need to change device, and they better come up with something really FANTASTIC next year for the ZU2, because they gave us something that's nearly UNimprovable.
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The Screen is very bright imo, How much bright do you want it to be? Or in other term, how much faster do you want the battery to go down the drain? If i bring it outdoor it's perfectly readable in sunlight, and plus the auto brightness works perfectly.
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Are you serious?! And it brings up another weak point. The battery.
Maybe *you're* happy with it and that's all that matters.
But the phone is about 1/2 as bright in the sunlight when compared to the Note 3.
And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3.
And I call BS on you saying your phone is "perfectly readable in the sunlight".
My S4 is brighter than your phone and I have trouble viewing it when the sun is shining down on it.
Look, the Z Ultra is a very good phone.
But it's still heavily outshined by current phones and thus, "doesn't really need any update" is an illogical argument.
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Are you serious?! And it brings up another weak point. The battery.
Maybe *you're* happy with it and that's all that matters.
But the phone is about 1/2 as bright in the sunlight when compared to the Note 3.
And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3.
And I call BS on you saying your phone is "perfectly readable in the sunlight".
My S4 is brighter than your phone and I have trouble viewing it when the sun is shining down on it.
Look, the Z Ultra is a very good phone.
But it's still heavily outshined by current phones and thus, "doesn't really need any update" is an illogical argument.
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Wait a second. We're talking about two different display technologies here. Half as bright compared to the Note 3? I don't think so. Try them both in a dark room, with full brightness.
Let's talk about battery.
Im arriving late at night with 4+ screen hours and 20% of battery left. What more could you want?
I guess they could fit a bigger battery (how about no, since it would thicken the phone and noone wants that) but let's see how KK is energy efficient before talking s*it about battery consumption.
Outshined? By the Note 3?? If you're talking about the camera, ok, If you're talking about anything else, well, no.
Look, the Note 3 is a really good phone. But it isn't an update at all.
Or it is, if you consider an update 4K videos and a few pen tricks.
P.s. I also have used a Note 3, an S4 (both with stock and GPe roms) and have owned an S3 in the past year, so I'm backing up what I'm talking about.
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Are you serious?! And it brings up another weak point. The battery.
Maybe *you're* happy with it and that's all that matters.
But the phone is about 1/2 as bright in the sunlight when compared to the Note 3.
And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3.
And I call BS on you saying your phone is "perfectly readable in the sunlight".
My S4 is brighter than your phone and I have trouble viewing it when the sun is shining down on it.
Look, the Z Ultra is a very good phone.
But it's still heavily outshined by current phones and thus, "doesn't really need any update" is an illogical argument.
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Note 3:
"The biggest improvement, however, is brightness. The Note 3 can achieve up to 400 nits of brightness in most conditions, on par with the best LCDs out there. Moreover, outdoors, the Note 3 can deliver a whopping 660 nits of brightness, 40 percent more than the Galaxy S4 and around 10 percent more than the iPhone 5s. The screen is less reflective, which helps outdoor visibility as well."
Z Ultra:
"The display is also sufficiently luminant, at 445 nits peak brightness measured, and with good antireflectance coating, plus the OptiContrast tech that bonds the cover glass to the LCD panel underneath delivers a more direct way for the backlight to go through. This further increases brightness, contrast and outdoor visibility in general, which is on par with the best mobile displays out there, like those on the HTC One or the iPhone 5."
You are really exaggerating. Also, the battery is actually very good. I don't know if you've checked the battery thread, but people are getting good times. My personal record is 8 hours of screen time. How is THAT bad? "And the battery is only about 75% as efficient when compared to the Note 3". Oh? You don't say. Is the Note's battery bigger than the Ultra's? Yes. Will it last longer than a smaller battery? Yes. How is this surprising to you?
I don't really need better battery life than this. I get two full days with my normal usage. It can last me three days at times. I had the Note 2 but certainly don't want a Note 3 after that. Strongly dislike Samsung software and bloat.
The only thing I would wish for is a better camera (sensor).
Last battery cycle stats (around 50% brightness):
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By no means am I implying that the Z Ultra (original) is an inferior device, but I am one of the ones on the fence hoping an update will come that adds some of the more requested things:
Flash on the camera
Update to the camera (but even then, I could bend on this one.. .e.g. same camera with a flash would be ok)
User replaceable battery (even if it's a fairly involved process, e.g. unscrewing the case or similar... provided it's a Sony sanctioned user replaceable part
hpka said:
By no means am I implying that the Z Ultra (original) is an inferior device, but I am one of the ones on the fence hoping an update will come that adds some of the more requested things:
Flash on the camera
Update to the camera (but even then, I could bend on this one.. .e.g. same camera with a flash would be ok)
User replaceable battery (even if it's a fairly involved process, e.g. unscrewing the case or similar... provided it's a Sony sanctioned user replaceable part
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1. Will probably happen
2. Will happen
3. Will not happen. Ever. It would've been a PR disaster for Sony when 1 million clowns brick their devices Don't ever forget how stupid people are.
So who has made this decision?
Cameras?
Music?
screen quality?
Software experience?
wireless charging?
size?
8.1 vs. 7.1.2?
Squeeze feature?
dual front speakers?
I have had the pixel 2 XL for awhile and really do like it but am i missing out on all the same things in a smaller, more refined package or is the software where it is at?
Hi,
I chose the LG V30. I take about 30 photos in a year.(I know that the number is too less ) and this phone serves the purpose. I use my phone plugged in with headphones most of the time and the bottom firing speaker works just fine. When you compare with the Pixel 2 XL, I am getting the headphone jack and the wireless charging and better aesthetics(Glass back and design) but I am losing out on "latest" software updates, way better front cam(the V30's front camera is a bit crappy) , battery I guess(V30 lasts through a day without much hassles) and the UI can be changed with any theme and Nova Launcher is your friend. Hope this helps.
hello, I am of the idea that currently the phone must be aesthetically pleasing, at the hardware and software are all good or bad. the 2xl pixel I got to see it and aesthetically it's really bad. I have V30, excellent performance, battery ditto, speed and fluidity overall excellent improvements with new software updates.
It all depends on what you want in the end. They share the same screen even though it looks worse on the Pixel 2 XL. Unless you are on T-Mobile, the Pixel 2 XL's radio will give you more solid reception. If you want the most recent updates when they happen, then the Pixel 2 XL is the experience for you. Especially if you want to root the device with ease and have lots of developer support. If you use and prefer high quality headphones for a high quality audio experience, the V30 is pretty much the best option out there. The designs are very subjective but I personally would say the V30 has a much nicer design over the Pixel 2 XL.
The rear cameras are probably the harder of all of the features to compare. The front camera on the V30 sucks so anyone who takes a lot of selfies will not want to look at the V30. When it comes to the rear cameras, it's all in what you want. The Pixel 2 XL's rear camera is quite decent and the software compliments it well. The V30 offers up two cameras, one of which is a wide angle. he software experience is very in-depth with plenty of features to give just about any look and effect to your photos. However, the auto experience tends to disappoint. You can sideload the Google Camera app though to give you that point and click experience you get from the Pixel 2 XL.
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. Unless you are on T-Mobile, the Pixel 2 XL's radio will give you more solid reception.
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On the Pixel, more solid reception in what way?
I have all the bands my carrier offers and much more.
The Pixel doesn't have the new T-Mobile LTE band 71 everyone seems to be obsessing over, whereas with carrier unlocked model LG V30 there seems there's a good chance of getting it on more than the T-Mobile variant.
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ChazzMatt said:
On the Pixel, more solid reception in what way?
I have all the bands my carrier offers and much more.
The Pixel doesn't have the new T-Mobile LTE band 71 everyone seems to be obsessing over, whereas with carrier unlocked model or seems there's a good chance of getting it on more than the T-Mobile variant.
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Google puts a lot more effort into tuning their radios per carrier. Even Nexus/Pixel devices do get the odd carrier specific radios. If you look at the H933 thread, the one person who ended up with the Pixel 2 said their reception was significantly better over the V30's they had and used in the same areas. I did mention unless they wee on T-Mobile. I haven't seen any major complaints with T=Mobile reception and band 71 is definitely a bonus to anyone who is in a coverage area for that or wants to future-proof their purchase as a T-Mobile customer at least in network compatibility.
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Google puts a lot more effort into tuning their radios per carrier. Even Nexus/Pixel devices do get the odd carrier specific radios. If you look at the H933 thread, the one person who ended up with the Pixel 2 said their reception was significantly better over the V30's they had and used in the same areas. I did mention unless they wee on T-Mobile. I haven't seen any major complaints with T=Mobile reception and band 71 is definitely a bonus to anyone who is in a coverage area for that or wants to future-proof their purchase as a T-Mobile customer at least in network compatibility.
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I've had Nexus phones in the past. No Pixels, because I want better specs than what Google is offering.
But at least with AT&T here in the U.S. I don't see any difference in reception/signal strength. And that's running through a VPN.
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Thanks people.
I really can't decide, there are things that I really like about both and very little I don't like on either:
V30+ plusses:
Size, feels better in hand
Wireless charging
F1.6 camera
Better DAC
Better water resistance
Band 71 for tmo
Pixel 2 xl plusses:
Camera image processing
Squeeze feature
Oreo 8.1
AR stickers
Song title feature
Stereo front facing speakers
Pure Android experience
Better battery (based on my experience
Coating on back phone
Notification light
I find the screens very similar and the majority of the user experience is very good on both phones, which is what makes it so hard.
Both phones are unlocked and have 128gb storage .
Right now, I am leaning towards keeping the pixel because of the software experience, but this may change...
Thanks
I'm also not able to get through a full day without a recharge, any battery suggestions for the v30 experts?
Thanks
aaronc_98 said:
I'm also not able to get through a full day without a recharge, any battery suggestions for the v30 experts?
Thanks
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Get rid of apps like Facebook. Even if you choose not to remove them, disable them and use a web browser to prevent about a quarter of your charge going to waste.
Right now, leaning towards the pixel because of the SW but the HW of the V30 has me stalling that decision, what do you think?
aaronc_98 said:
Thanks people.
I really can't decide, there are things that I really like about both and very little I don't like on either:
V30+ plusses:
Size, feels better in hand
Wireless charging
F1.6 camera
Better DAC
Better water resistance
Band 71 for tmo
Pixel 2 xl plusses:
Camera image processing
Squeeze feature
Oreo 8.1
AR stickers
Song title feature
Stereo front facing speakers
Pure Android experience
Better battery (based on my experience
Coating on back phone
Notification light
I find the screens very similar and the majority of the user experience is very good on both phones, which is what makes it so hard.
Both phones are unlocked and have 128gb storage .
Right now, I am leaning towards keeping the pixel because of the software experience, but this may change...
Thanks
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I had the same dilemma, but since I listen to tons of music and I care about the quality of the music I listen to, I got the V30. The wired audio quality you can get from V30 is unmatched amoung all android devices. You have to spend like 400-500$ on a dedicated audio player to get the same audio quality.
Plus, after getting the phone, I found myself using the wide angle lens quite a lot. Its a very handy feature, far practical than any telephone alternative. Im not a fan of portrait mode on any phone since I find to look very artificial to me. F/1.6 helps to blur out the background in a more moderate natural way (the way actual portrait lens do it). In general on camera department I cannot fault pixel 2 as it has the best camera! However, I never had a problem with my V30's camera. Then again, really digging the wide angle lens!
I didn't know about the notification light till I got the phone, its not a big hassle, always on display will help keeping track of your notifications (although I would preferred to have the LED too!). I use an app called NoLED to show the notification I care about on the always on display.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.led.notify&hl=en
I was in same confusion but finally went with LG v30+ just coz of its price.
It's ₹45k in India and whereas pixel 2xl is ₹72k
Only thing I miss is the front facing stereo speakers
I am in the same boat, I have read that the DS model (which is the only one available in my country) won't be bootloader unlocked, don't know if that is a big issue and like all other manufacturers LG is also slow with updates, while with Pixel I will get updates quickly.
Hi all
I have been debating with myself for awhile rather get the xperia 1 3 or the oneplus 9pro, also considering the op9 or nokia 8.4 although I know specs are downgraded from first two.
Do u have any insights for me?
thx in advance
the-light said:
Hi all
I have been debating with myself for awhile rather get the xperia 1 3 or the oneplus 9pro, also considering the op9 or nokia 8.4 although I know specs are downgraded from first two.
Do u have any insights for me?
thx in advance
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I can assure you that you won't be disappointed if you choose Xperia 1 III. I think I don't have to polish the quality, it's a Sony the display is superb as always. Camera is a masterpiece, especially in manual. If you know what you're doing then you shot photos you couldn't with any other and the colours are the most realistic you can get. Performance is outpacing all other phones. I didn't have any lags, hesitation or slowdown ever. Multi-tasking is a killer, doesn't matter how many apps you use simultaneously, apps won't crash. I replaced my Xperia 1 and I didn't regret it. Not to mention that my Xperia 1, Xperia xz premium, xperia z3 still run like new I don't have any pros or cons regarding the other phones you mentioned.
LaceeWearsPrada said:
I can assure you that you won't be disappointed if you choose Xperia 1 III. I think I don't have to polish the quality, it's a Sony the display is superb as always. Camera is a masterpiece, especially in manual. If you know what you're doing then you shot photos you couldn't with any other and the colours are the most realistic you can get. Performance is outpacing all other phones. I didn't have any lags, hesitation or slowdown ever. Multi-tasking is a killer, doesn't matter how many apps you use simultaneously, apps won't crash. I replaced my Xperia 1 and I didn't regret it. Not to mention that my Xperia 1, Xperia xz premium, xperia z3 still run like new I don't have any pros or cons regarding the other phones you mentioned.
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Thank u for the reply. it is helpful
If you're into this kind of bleeding edge device; either way you'll be disappointed, just less with this one I think.
Reasoning: Android is just becoming more like IOS on both the hard and software side.
DRM, lack of sdcard port (why I decided to pick the 1III over the 9P), locking down systems as much as possible.
Funny enough that ain't whats killing the 1III or the 9P, these companies share more source code than most, it's the tiny community which might have made it worth for me to get the S22 Ultra instead.
I did get a terrific deal tho; €888 for a snapdragon 888, how fitting.
I don't know about OnePlus, but my Xperia has a definite "beta" feel that never goes away.
What the Sony really has going for it is:
Fast CPU burst speed launches apps quickly
microSD card for old apps and some apps not from Google Play Store
Solid feel
Stereo speakers and headphone jack
Fast WiFi 6
Quick camera button
Long battery life
Water resistant
Notification LED
Very fast USB connection
Not so good:
Some people have problems with phantom screen and fingerprint touches
Fingerprint reader will false-positive a LOT
Minimal carrier support, if any. Cellular reception is not the best.
Minimal CPU cooling, quick throttling
Dated camera quality, worse camera software
Very "stock" Android, and that's a bad thing for Android 11 and 12. Google's recent work is a dumpster fire.
microSD crippled for recent Google Play Store apps (see previous item)
Several gigabytes of setup shovelware on some models. The downloads have to be cancelled to get started.
Rough software and some bad updates. Can be frustrating to use.
Flashlight is dim
4K screen resolution is restricted to a few uses
The Sony by my experience excellent.
A few sites to confirm this.
https://www.whathifi.com/reviews/sony-xperia-1-iii
Sony Xperia 1 III | EISA – Expert Imaging and Sound Association
eisa.eu
Sony Xperia 1 III - TIPA
Xperia 1 III utilises expertise of engineers from Sony’s Alpha cameras. It offers four focal lengths, including the world’s first Variable telephoto lens paired with a Dual PD sensor– reaching up to a focal length of 105mm from 16mm, as well as delivering 12MP and RAW formatted images. Each lens...
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Very happy with mine. Been a champ. Learn to yield the camera and you will be trated with excellent images.
Led notification
3.5 connection
12/256 config on the base model + sd-card support
4k FLAT screen - no notch or punch-hole
Great camera hardware - excellent manuel controls - 4k 120fps
Great battery
Stereospeakers with punch and good balance
Also a great looking phone beautifully buildt.
Why open new threads like this always and mess up the entire forum... Even for a single new update if there is only a monthly security update
kevinmcmurtrie said:
I don't know about OnePlus, but my Xperia has a definite "beta" feel that never goes away.
What the Sony really has going for it is:
Fast CPU burst speed launches apps quickly
microSD card for old apps and some apps not from Google Play Store
Solid feel
Stereo speakers and headphone jack
Fast WiFi 6
Quick camera button
Long battery life
Water resistant
Notification LED
Very fast USB connection
Not so good:
Some people have problems with phantom screen and fingerprint touches
Fingerprint reader will false-positive a LOT
Minimal carrier support, if any. Cellular reception is not the best.
Minimal CPU cooling, quick throttling
Dated camera quality, worse camera software
Very "stock" Android, and that's a bad thing for Android 11 and 12. Google's recent work is a dumpster fire.
microSD crippled for recent Google Play Store apps (see previous item)
Several gigabytes of setup shovelware on some models. The downloads have to be cancelled to get started.
Rough software and some bad updates. Can be frustrating to use.
Flashlight is dim
4K screen resolution is restricted to a few uses
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Wifi 6 really is fast No other phone can do this. At my workplace they couldn't believe how is this even possible
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I've even reached 2,6Gbps download speed once. Sadly, I didn't taka a screenshot
Apart from the dim flashlight, I didn't face any of those issues. This phone really is a beast Can't imagine that I'd buy any other manufacturer's phone.
I had a lot of Flagships in my hands. For 1 year ago a had a s21, s22 , S22 Ultra, Zfold3 , Mi11 Ultra, Mate/P 40 Po... I can easily say that 1||| is not the best at all but...
Beautiful und one hand useful
Camera with a bit of knowledge is the best in the terms of colours and really really to convey the real atmosphere and mood of the scene. Hey this is not a flat and too bright Samsungs way. Other like a hand painted Huawei and Pixel way.
And up to 5 zoom ist the best because ist not so dependent from various constant zoom cameras. It have a variable zoom and this make a lot of difference.
Also is a lot more agile and smooth than Samsung in terms of software.
I have never had a One+ device but with the Chinese i find always annoying flaws.
I don't understand why people are comparing this phone so much with other phones.
The sole reason I bought this phone is because it offers a very unique featureset.
I wanted a fingerprint scanner on the side or back.
Can find lots, but typically only in higher-end models.
I also wanted wireless charging.
Also lots, but typically only in budget models.
I wanted a flat screen, no curved edges.
Removes a lot of phones too.
I preferred a headphone jack and notification LED (if possible).
Removes even more phones.
With all these requirements there is literally no other phone available.
None
I couldn't care less about camera quality, yet I bought it.
Me? I'm happy with it. But unless you want some specific features that only this phone offers I just would not recommend it because it's, imo, WAY too expensive compared to the competition.
You should not buy this phone because you want a "flagship model", you're better off with OP, Samsung, Google or Apple (dare I say it).
I will admit that Sony devices are unicorns, so you can buy it for the hipster factor I guess.