Hello,
The Snapdragon 8 gen 2 is supporting DUAL SIM DUAL ACTIVE (DSDA) . The question is the galaxy s23 ultra have that feature ?
if not , why ? and how to enable it .
Thank you
Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
hoss_n2 said:
Qualcomm said that S23 series supports DSDA only in Chinese market with model number SM-S9180
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Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
fal4fal said:
Thanks for the reply. Do you have link for more details ? also, if I change the firmware (CSC) TO China do you think it will work since they have have same (SOC) and 5g modem chipset ?
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They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
jcsww said:
There are EU regions with dual-SIM enabled for the S23 series. I would suggest trying one of those first.
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Eu regions support dual standby SIM not dual active SIM
hoss_n2 said:
They are same Hardware but verry different firmware and not interchangeable by CSC and you can't just flash Chinese firmware on any other device unfortunately
Feature was mentioned here in Qualcomm news letter
Qualcomm and Samsung Partner to Bring the Fastest Snapdragon Ever to Galaxy S23 Series Globally | Qualcomm
www.qualcomm.com
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Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
But take care pro
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fal4fal said:
Appreciate the explanation . Good News. oneplus 11 support it per this tweet.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1623372859136679936
it seems i will get the onuplus11
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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thanks bro. the issue i will get it thru installment . that's why i don't think i can get it from china for the time being. Will wait and hopefully will hear good news .
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But take care bro one plus 11 for China is also different from other international versions, so if you really want this feature , import the phone from China
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Seeing how that person is in Pasadena, CA, I question if it has to be the Chinese model.
It's stupid if Samsung doesn't support DSDA but I guess at the end of the day, it doesn't really affect me, as I use one SIM for calls and text and the other for data.
Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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Through Odin, the firmware might be interchangeable. We just don't know yet because not many of us have our devices. What made conversions more challenging in the past with Samsung devices, was the different hardware. We don't have that here for most of the world.now. The Chinese version will not have eSIM capabilities because eSIM is illegal in China. We're probably going to be waiting on a custom ROM or combination ROM to get DSDA or DSDS for pSIM's enabled on North American versions, if the pins are there. From what I have heard, they should be. My eyes aren't good enough to see in side.of.my T-Mobile version to tell though and there is no place to buy a replacement dual-SIM tray in green yet to even see what happens when a second pSIM is inserted in slot 2.
With OnePlus, converting a device to another region or firmware, like with my 8T and 7 Pro, was fairly easy. However, OnePlus/OPPO cracked down on this and removed the second set of SIM pins making dual-SIM on North American models impossible.
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No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
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No it is not possible , on S22 ultra it was snapdragon everywhere except Europe and Chinese Firmwares aren't exchangeable with any other devices except Chinese phones , odin Refuses to flash it
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Have you tried Modded Odin?
jcsww said:
Have you tried Modded Odin?
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
How to flash a different model firmware (i.e. SM908E onto a phone currently running SM9080)
Hi everyone, I do have a Snapdragon S22 Ultra that is currently running SM9080. However, non of the CSC versions available for this firmware has eSim support. Therefore I would like to try flashing the SM908E firmware (which should have eSim...
forum.xda-developers.com
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Yup, There is a complete thread on S22U forum with hundreds of trials but no Success
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Interesting. This year though, no Exynos might be the game changer. EU firmware tends to be a lot more friendly for North American use from my experiences flashing OnePlus devices. This is my first Samsung since the Note 9 though. Definitely looking forward to some flashing goodness once developers start taking an interest in the S23 devices.
Edit: T-Mobile should get me my SIM unlock by launch day so I am definitely interested in trying once the SIM lock is gone on my device.
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
DarkenMoon said:
I'm glad that I was linked this article before buying an S23. Might pick up the Oneplus 11 5G instead.
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It is also region dependent on one plus 11 you have to get Chinese version & unfortunately this year Chinese oneplus 11 units are region locked & cant make phone calls outside china
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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Because carriers want to make your life miserable.
DarkenMoon said:
I want to know why DSDA is being limited to only China. Seems stupid to me.
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eSIM is illegal in China.
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I have Honor 7 - PLK-UL00IN - Indian version.
Dual SIM is not enabled in this version. I'm in a need of it now.
Is it possible to get it via a patch or some other thing without rooting ?
My suggestion is to debrand it and flash a fw of a region which have dual sim support.
And I am not sure if this will work
vsriram92 said:
I have Honor 7 - PLK-UL00IN - Indian version.
Dual SIM is not enabled in this version. I'm in a need of it now.
Is it possible to get it via a patch or some other thing without rooting ?
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I am not sure but I saw an entry in build.prop which says dual sim= true or false.
You can search online for editing build.prop using adb (without root, think I read somewhere that it is possible) and give it a try but keep a backup and figure out a way in advancr to put the original build.prop back if something goes wrong.
Might work... You can also contact DigiGoon, an Indian honor 7 developer for confirmation or more information.
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Switching it to true could make it work, but I will hold off and wait for someone to make a guide
Plz someone help to make indian version of honor 7 = plk-ul00 to dual sim. Honor lauched it in india as single sim devies but hardaware still support dual sim (as seen in build props ) they some how made 2nd sim in airplane mode also sim mangement option is not available in settings.
I think we should install firmware of other region with dual sim suppo but then also promblem of 2nd sim imei no remains
swapnil.1834 said:
Plz someone help to make indian version of honor 7 = plk-ul00 to dual sim. Honor lauched it in india as single sim devies but hardaware still support dual sim (as seen in build props ) they some how made 2nd sim in airplane mode also sim mangement option is not available in settings.
I think we should install firmware of other region with dual sim suppo but then also promblem of 2nd sim imei no remains
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So far no one did a mod for honor 7 (indian variant) to work as dual sim
To get it done legally only Honor people can do it. Because our handsets came with single imiei no. If u unlocked 2nd sim but without having 2nd imei no, it is crime in india
I forgot about IMEI, it may not work without a second one being present
I think we should request for dual sim support @ authorised sevice centers and Compony people.
Also somewhere on net I read about tools for enabling imei no. But that was for mtk (mediatek)devises which has much devlopment support .I dont know about honor/ huwei/kirin how to do it but there are ways too.we need somewone who is familiar with emui/kirin processors to do it
For now, we can't do anything about enabling dual sim on honor 7
PalakMi said:
For now, we can't do anything about enabling dual sim on honor 7
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Im thinking to move back to Honor 7 from 5X again due to lack of update.
But I'm locked inside 5X because of the Dual SIM support
vsriram92 said:
Im thinking to move back to Honor 7 from 5X again due to lack of update.
But I'm locked inside 5X because of the Dual SIM support
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It's a tough decision to which you'll use as daily driver, take 5x
Already riding on 5X. Hoping for a change soon.
I am waiting for my new device to arrive
I dont understand logic of honor people behind launching devices in some regions with blocked 2nd sim by software and in some regions with dual activ
Where as we pay as much price same, lets we deciide how to use the phone but they block 2nd sim tray.Again launched honor 8 and honor 8 smart with same condition
Pathetic
swapnil.1834 said:
I dont understand logic of honor people behind launching devices in some regions with blocked 2nd sim by software and in some regions with dual activ
Where as we pay as much price same, lets we deciide how to use the phone but they block 2nd sim tray.Again launched honor 8 and honor 8 smart with same condition
Pathetic
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They didn't realize it yet, unfortunately
swapnil.1834 said:
I dont understand logic of honor people behind launching devices in some regions with blocked 2nd sim by software and in some regions with dual activ
Where as we pay as much price same, lets we deciide how to use the phone but they block 2nd sim tray.Again launched honor 8 and honor 8 smart with same condition
Pathetic
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Seems that each region has their own preference.
In some region there is no proper OS update. But they release dual sim variant.
In some region they don't enable VoLTE. If required they are enabling it after some months.
In some region they give excessive bloatwares.
In some region they give 2 years commitment.
Its not the same all over the world. Sad to see this state
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Seems that each region has their own preference.
In some region there is no proper OS update. But they release dual sim variant.
In some region they don't enable VoLTE. If required they are enabling it after some months.
In some region they give excessive bloatwares.
In some region they give 2 years commitment.
Its not the same all over the world. Sad to see this state
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That's the only side where I do prefer apple (I hate to say it)
Its not only that .... even they launched devices in india honor7 they didn't launched yet accceceries like flip cover,silicon back cover etc for it where as for 5x its available dont understand behaviour orr logic .I thinck someone should teach how to do bussiness not making fool to others _ sad to say
For the most beutiful exptional quality performing flagship ....device atleast make original accessories available........ still I love my h7
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Its not only that .... even they launched devices in india honor7 they didn't launched yet accceceries like flip cover,silicon back cover etc for it where as for 5x its available dont understand behaviour orr logic .I thinck someone should teach how to do bussiness not making fool to others _ sad to say
For the most beutiful exptional quality performing flagship ....device atleast make original accessories available........ still I love my h7
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No accessories for h7 (from honor)?! Really?!
That's a shame
As title.
You mean frequcy bands ?
All devices are comes with same bands but due to some regions sepertion, they are locked.
Rebranding will helps u. In my case i got honor 8, which in some region i got volte bands.in other rwgions they are absent
You can but I wouldn't recommend it. As the Chinese release of the Honor 9 uses slightly different hardware that is used in both the EU and US release of the device.
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You can but I wouldn't recommend it. As the Chinese release of the Honor 9 uses slightly different hardware that is used in both the EU and US release of the device.
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Different hardware , no bro they are same but due to marketing and in regions they wont include dual sim and limit the storage size but the soc remains same.
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As title.
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Next time please include your question in your actual post. Not in the title.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
Last Galaxy was S6, jumped ship to iPhone 7S to please the wife, was ecstatic to go back to S9 via T-Mobile aka "Uncarrier".
I was more excited to finally go back to XDA to check the dev scene, but no love for the Snapdragon Varient? I know International aka 960/5F got the unlocked bootloader and usual Day 1 roots.... but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
My T-Mobile S6 Edge was a breeze to root and so many amazing ROMS and Cross-Device Dev too. And that wasn't Exynos either.
Point is, I'm sure I'm not the only one and you guys arent alone out there. I'd love to see how people are enjoying their device, any dis/advantages to our international sibling, and also any tricks they're using to "poweruse" their device.
Cheers
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Last Galaxy was S6, jumped ship to iPhone 7S to please the wife, was ecstatic to go back to S9 via T-Mobile aka "Uncarrier".
I was more excited to finally go back to XDA to check the dev scene, but no love for the Snapdragon Varient? I know International aka 960/5F got the unlocked bootloader and usual Day 1 roots.... but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
My T-Mobile S6 Edge was a breeze to root and so many amazing ROMS and Cross-Device Dev too. And that wasn't Exynos either.
Point is, I'm sure I'm not the only one and you guys arent alone out there. I'd love to see how people are enjoying their device, any dis/advantages to our international sibling, and also any tricks they're using to "poweruse" their device.
Cheers
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Edit: For good faith, I'll show how I try to "spruce up" my Galaxy experience with homescreenshots
For the record, all S6 models were Exynos. There were no snapdragon versions.
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Let Me Correct you there's S6 SD , The one that were all Exynos are the Note 5. No SD For Note 5
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If there were any Snapdragon versions they were not in North America. The US carriers were all Exynos. I had the Verizon version and it was most definitely Exynos. They did not want to use the 810 so I am pretty sure there were no Snapdragons anywhere for the S6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S6
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If there were any Snapdragon versions they were not in North America. The US carriers were all Exynos. I had the Verizon version and it was most definitely Exynos. They did not want to use the 810 so I am pretty sure there were no Snapdragons anywhere for the S6.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S6
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Actually you are correct was for some reason thinking S7 lol , cause S6 , S6 Plus and Note 5 were the phones that only have Exynos so my bad
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Venom0642 said:
Actually you are correct was for some reason thinking S7 lol , cause S6 , S6 Plus and Note 5 were the phones that only have Exynos so my bad
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but does anybody know why the Snapdragon scene isn't active at all?
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Put simply, it's because Samsung has made the S9/S9+ SD variant EXTREMELY tamper-resistant. Old methods to achieve root that worked on, say, the S7 or S8 no longer work.
As far as I know, there's only 1 dev working at it. For now, one can only be patient and see what happens.
Other than that though, it's a solid phone that I am enjoying right out of the box. And for now, there's a working hotspot mod, so that's nice as well.
Root on g9650 Hong Kong version can be achieved (see https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...comm-sm-g9650-hong-kong-china-t3764542/page27). I think nowaday there is no way to unlock bootloader of the us variant.
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Put simply, it's because Samsung has made the S9/S9+ SD variant EXTREMELY tamper-resistant. Old methods to achieve root that worked on, say, the S7 or S8 no longer work.
As far as I know, there's only 1 dev working at it. For now, one can only be patient and see what happens.
Other than that though, it's a solid phone that I am enjoying right out of the box. And for now, there's a working hotspot mod, so that's nice as well.
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That's typical though, I'd be surprised if Sammy left an old exploit open in a new flagship from an old one
I wouldn't put it past em though, the latest exploits have been pretty easy lol
It's worth noting that the SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 (the non-us unlockable Snapdragon variant s9/s9+ work perfectly on both CDMA and GSM networks in the USA, making it at last a real option for Americans
i'd be happy with the ability to do carrier switching like on the s8/s8+ and note 8
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It's worth noting that the SM-G9600 and SM-G9650 (the non-us unlockable Snapdragon variant s9/s9+ work perfectly on both CDMA and GSM networks in the USA, making it at last a real option for Americans
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I have a dual-sim SM-G9650 (Hong Kong version) and was unable to get it to connect to CDMA in the US. Worked fine for GSM/WCDMA/LTE, but couldn't connect to ANYTHING with a Page Plus/Verizon sim. Tried Hong Kong rom and also Panama rom, and couldn't do it.
Do you have any reports of someone getting a verizon sim working in this model?
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I have a dual-sim SM-G9650 (Hong Kong version) and was unable to get it to connect to CDMA in the US. Worked fine for GSM/WCDMA/LTE, but couldn't connect to ANYTHING with a Page Plus/Verizon sim. Tried Hong Kong rom and also Panama rom, and couldn't do it.
Do you have any reports of someone getting a verizon sim working in this model?
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Did you ever get it to work on Verizon LTE at least? I see it supports the Verizon LTE bands. I want to get this for the dual SIM. Personal phone is TMO and company is Verizon.
My sister bought me a Samsung Galaxy S9+ for my birthday but because she lives in America and I live in the UK I'm having issues with certain apps, especially Samsung Pay which won't allow me to use it as it only recognises me as being in America due to the Firmware restrictions, I can sign in fine, my account is registered in the UK but as I said, it's the Firmware restrictions so I can't use it at all.
I'm hoping someone knows if it's possible for me to replace the USA Firmware with a UK Firmware version? It's caused a lot of havoc in many different ways for me but I cherish the phone since it was a birthday present from the sweetest sister ever! ?? ♥
Congratulations on your new phone from your sister! Unfortunately if the model# is G965U or G965U1, you will be limited to US firmwares. The global model has a different processor and the firmwares are incompatible.
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Congratulations on your new phone from your sister! Unfortunately if the model# is G965U or G965U1, you will be limited to US firmwares. The global model has a different processor and the firmwares are incompatible.
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Thanks, I had a feeling it would be bad news but that's worse because it actually is an SM-G965U1 ?
She also sent me another phone, it's a BLU ENERGY XL, the OS is terrible on it, I don't suppose you have any recommendations for a firmware I can install via the SD Card on that do you? ??
Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it ??
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Thanks, I had a feeling it would be bad news but that's worse because it actually is an SM-G965U1 ?
She also sent me another phone, it's a BLU ENERGY XL, the OS is terrible on it, I don't suppose you have any recommendations for a firmware I can install via the SD Card on that do you? ??
Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it ??
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You're welcome, but sorry for that news. I can't think of any other options for Samsung Pay either, since the US model doesn't currently have a root method. As for the BLU ENERGY, I don't know anything about it so the best I can recommend is look it up in the forums here on XDA, or maybe another similar site? Good luck!
Does US S21 or its variant have esim?
Haven't seen any info on any sites unlike S20 and Note20 where there was mention.
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Does US S21 or its variant have esim?
Haven't seen any info on any sites unlike S20 and Note20 where there was mention.
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Don't have a definitive answer but it's not likely. Carrier Branded devices are firmly opposed to giving their customers alternative network options. That's the same reason all US devices are single sim.
it is not supported based on answer from Samsung product expert:-
https://imgur.com/a/AySogpp
More than likely it will be supported only on the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung. If you get a carrier version, the device would have to be carrier unlocked to enable eSIM. My AT&T S20 Ultra, flashed with the U1 software, enabled me to have eSIM functionality. I'm assuming it will be the same with the S21.
on samsung dot com, it said esim supported.
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More than likely it will be supported only on the unlocked version bought directly from Samsung. If you get a carrier version, the device would have to be carrier unlocked to enable eSIM. My AT&T S20 Ultra, flashed with the U1 software, enabled me to have eSIM functionality. I'm assuming it will be the same with the S21.
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Wait, your S20 ultra Snapdragon US version supports eSIM and you can actually use it on AT&T? I thought that was only possible on the Fold2 ?
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it is not supported based on answer from Samsung product expert:-
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Their website says it is supported under FAQ. These "product experts" just guess and don't always know the true answer to technical questions. Previously they said it was supported, so I would assume this time it must be supported if they are denying it
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Wait, your S20 ultra Snapdragon US version supports eSIM and you can actually use it on AT&T? I thought that was only possible on the Fold2 ?
Yes it does support it, and I can use it on AT&T. However, only after flashing the U1 firmware and it being carrier unlocked did it work.
Their website says it is supported under FAQ. These "product experts" just guess and don't always know the true answer to technical questions. Previously they said it was supported, so I would assume this time it must be supported if they are denying it
This is true, it is supported. A lot of product reps don't really know much.
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S20 range has esim support - so it would make sense that s21 has it too - is not like it cost them more
the Q is whether or not your carrier supports it and most likely NO
at least here in UK no major career supports it yet or plans too
LTE Smart watches? Voda now supports https://newscentre.vodafone.co.uk/news/esim-support-comes-to-vodafone-uk-smartphones/ for certain phones S21 included
I spoke to Samsung on the phone yesterday about this. I ordered the S21U 512gb (brown) unlocked version and they said it’s esim + nano sim. For what it’s worth, it took three different people to get an answer on that and I’m not even convinced they knew for sure.
I don’t understand why Samsung is being weird about the specs...
Guys, please remember that Samsung uses AI Chat bots and the cheapest 3rd world labor for their support. Don't take ANYTHING they say as gospel, until you see it for yourself.
I was in.tiuch with samsung retail support and they said the unlocked US version does support Esim. I specifically asked if it could be used as a dual sim and they said yes. Time will tell!
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I was in.tiuch with samsung retail support and they said the unlocked US version does support Esim. I specifically asked if it could be used as a dual sim and they said yes. Time will tell!
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I was just told yesterday by their Twitter team that the phone doesn't have DSDS but you can activate either the eSIM or nano SIM with only one activated at a time. The phone support team (E-commerce) told me very clearly that it IS dual-SIM DSDS. This is becoming more confusing as time goes on.
Sorry for off-topic, but, if supported, does eSIM consume more battery than nano SIM? Does eSIM have any impact on battery?
This is called Bait and switch, and is against the law. It clearly states on the S21 US website (https://www.samsung.com/us/smartphones/galaxy-s21-5g/#!) under FAQ "
Do Galaxy S21 5G and S21+ 5G support eSIM?
Yes, you can use an electronic SIM, known as eSIM, with Galaxy S21 5G and S21+ 5G. The eSIM allows you to activate a mobile network plan right on your phone, so you can switch data plans or add an overseas phone number without the physical Nano SIM."
I would like to know who else is interested in filing a class action suit.
ernstgot said:
I would like to know who else is interested in filing a class action suit.
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How did this harm you or impact you financially? Because without that, you don't have any basis for a class action suit. ****ty of Samsung to do, but that has nothing to do with the law.
Just got my S21 Ultra. UK, 512GB model, and it's dual sim, but doesn't seem to support eSim as well. I'm happy with dual sim