Own 2 Belkin BoostUp 5W chargers that I've used successfully with s21u and s22u since I prefer low and slow overnight charging for battery health. I've had these phones in the past 3 months unfortunately because they've been used and returned due to a defective issue and now in the hands of S23u and hope to keep it lol
Chargers illuminate white and indicate charging on the phone. I ran Ampere as well and it read up to 350mA before it goes orange and refuses charge. It strangely works another 7.5w Insignia charger without issue(800mA). Anyone else encountered this? Is Samsung now starting to exclude very low wattage wireless chargers in hopes that people will buy their chargers? How very environmentally conscientious of them! Hope there's a way to modify this
Buy a proper charger and drop those BoostUps off at the recycling depot.
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Own 2 Belkin BoostUp 5W chargers that I've used successfully with s21u and s22u since I prefer low and slow overnight charging for battery health.
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Ive been charging my Note 20 5G with the 25W fast charging, since I bought it late 2020. I get all of maybe 10 minutes less max screen time, than I got in 2020. And thats probably just margin of error.
Ive charged every Samsung device Ive owned, at their maximum rated wattage, since my S2.
You will have the overall same experience from a L-ION battery, unless you charge it at higher amps than its rated for (which you cant do with any major company's cell phone/tablet/OEM charger).
I dont know where you got that incorrect idea from, but a 25-45W charging speed for the S23 will not degrade a healthy battery.
If it does, warranty it.
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Ive charged every Samsung device Ive owned, at their maximum rated wattage, since my S2.
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Not on an S2 you didn't. I recall they maxed out at 650ma charging. Man, good memories
That official 2000mah extended battery took a good while to top up from low...
Yesterday took 5h10 min to charge it with apple 5W charger...
stupid fck samsung with ''save the planet'' You need 3 parcels + 3 delivery + 3 packaging + 3 everything to complete a 1900$ phone .
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Not on an S2 you didn't. I recall they maxed out at 650ma charging. Man, good memories
That official 2000mah extended battery took a good while to top up from low...
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650MA is its maximum rated wattage that I didnt charge it at?
Log off, ya done
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650MA is its maximum rated wattage that I didnt charge it at?
Log off, ya done
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I'm sorry?
asrah said:
Ive been charging my Note 20 5G with the 25W fast charging, since I bought it late 2020. I get all of maybe 10 minutes less max screen time, than I got in 2020. And thats probably just margin of error.
Ive charged every Samsung device Ive owned, at their maximum rated wattage, since my S2.
You will have the overall same experience from a L-ION battery, unless you charge it at higher amps than its rated for (which you cant do with any major company's cell phone/tablet/OEM charger).
I dont know where you got that incorrect idea from, but a 25-45W charging speed for the S23 will not degrade a healthy battery.
If it does, warranty it.
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25-45W *wired* charging is perfectly fine due to the efficient transfer of power. Wireless charging at 15w will generate significantly more heat and will require an active fan to cool it. Heat will still be generated and that long term applies more wear to the battery. This has been known for a while which is why i wireless charge at lower wattages. Wired charging I send the full 45w. I intend on keeping this device for several years.
I've been using 100W rated magnetic connectors for a couple of years now. They offer the convenience of wireless charging without the heat related issues.
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I've been using 100W rated magnetic connectors for a couple of years now. They offer the convenience of wireless charging without the heat related issues.
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Any down side?
I haven't encountered any. They keep your C-port free of debris and cut down on wear and tear. I've got 2 wireless 15 watt chargers collecting dust now from lack of use.
This is the type I use: USB C Magnetic Adapter
I sourced them from Ali express for 1/3 the price.
hand-filer said:
I haven't encountered any. They keep your C-port free of debris and cut down on wear and tear. I've got 2 wireless 15 watt chargers collecting dust now from lack of use.
This is the type I use: USB C Magnetic Adapter
I sourced them from Ali express for 1/3 the price.
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Do you use a case? Any incompatibility?
I have a Belkin TrueFreedom wireless charger and a Samsung Charging Pad. Both of these do slow 5W 'overnight' charging when I turn off Wireless Fast Charge in the Settings, and both of them do 10W charging when I turn on Wireless Fast Charge. Battery temperature never exceeds 34C when using these (checked via GSAM). Still love the convenience of wireless charging overnight, with the option of wired charging when I need it.
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Do you use a case? Any incompatibility?
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I use a case; dbrand Grip in this image. No compatibility issues with it, Spigen, UAG or any of the 1/2 dozen other brands that I cycled through with the previous S22 Ultra. FWIW, I settled on the Grip Case for the S23U. It's by far the best of them all.
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About two years ago when I first bought my original Android device, the Galaxy Note, I did a lot of research about Lion batteries, authentic USB cables, cheap USB cables.. I'm a bit of a geek when I want to find stuff out. I ended up pulling apart my battery once I had wrecked it and went to work.... Possibly OCD. :silly:
So this post is about what I found out. Bear in mind this was two years ago, so I will only post the relevant info for us here.
USB Cables
So the big thing here is the money we save when we buy a cheap micro USB cable.
All modern devices decide the amount of current to draw or pull from chargers. So that should be fine right?!?
Well... yes. But no... Let me explain.
Often cheap cables won’t respond so well to the shutoff mechanism in the phone. The energy may also come through in sporadic bursts, which isn’t good for your battery’s life, either. Despite the phone 'pulling' the charge so you can't damage the battery that way, the pull fluctuating can effect this shutoff sensor.
When I tested several USB cables, I found that my Samsung branded cable remained the most constant. The amps pulled ranged from 1000-1200, where as my cheap $2 cable ranged from 500-1200. So essentially what this $2 cable could do, is fool our device into thinking its finished charging, or even worse... keep charging when its at 100%
My choice: For me, spending an extra $10-15 on an authentic/ branded/ shielded cable... its totally worth it.
Chargers
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Using cheap/ 3rd party wall plugs should be fine. However you must ensure that the volts are not too high.
Sony Stock wall plug:
1500 mA
5 v
3rd Party wall plug:
2000 mA (will be fine, any higher and you're wasting your time)
5 v (but not any higher! EVER!)
Ensure that you do not go over 5 volts. Volts are pushed to your device where as amps are pulled.
Example. a 9v wall charger will cause dammage. If not fry your device on contact. If you buy a wall charger that has 2000 mA (amps) or even 4000 mA will have no effect. The device will pull as much amps as it needs up to its maximum.
If you are confused... just buy the Sony branded wall charger
Lithium Ion Batteries
Consisting of Aluminium (cathode/ + ) at the top and copper (anode / - ) on the bottom. When the battery charges, ions of (lithium in this case) move through the electrolyte (which separates the positive from the negative) from the positive electrode to the negative electrode and attach to anode. During discharge, the lithium ions move back through to the cathode.
Its the cathode and anode that the positively charged ions stick to. The better quality the material more little nooks and holes in it, the more particles can stick to it, meaning the more you can charge it/ longer it will last. Below is an example of two vastly different qualities of material.
Lithium, the lightest metal that we are able to use which has the highest electrochemical potential.
However Lithium, is an unstable metal, so Lithium-Ion batteries are made from Lithium ions from chemicals. So why do they degrade over time?
Charging and discharging wears out the cathode, which results in reduced capacity. Another way to think of this is to imagine that every time you recharge your smartphone, you shave a few seconds off its maximum battery life. Erratic charging and heat speed up this degradation.
Tips:
Temperature
Between 20 and 25 degrees C. Heat is by far the largest factor when it comes to reducing lithium-ion battery life.
Charge
It's better for the battery to use partial-discharge cycles, this is because of the heat factor. Charge to 40%, and leave it for half an hour, then continue to charge to 100%. Obviously this is only if you are able. There is one exception. Every month you should allow lithium-ion batteries to almost completely discharge. Otherwise your device will report its battery status incorrectly. A condition labeled as 'digital memory'. So let the battery discharge to the cut-off point and then recharge. The power gauge will be recalibrated by itself.
Hope you've learnt something. If you have any questions i'll try and answer them, or I'm sure others will know.
Thanks, very nice and detailed information. Learned something new!
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Good Day!
im just wondering if i can use the samsung travel adaptor with output 5.3v and 2.0A? i got my default wall plug but it got different plug socket
thanks so much!
Can you always let the battery completely discharge all the time, or only occasionally?
Usually, I let the battery of my previous mobile phone, the Xperia L, either completely discharge, or start charging between 1%-4%. Then again, it is a removable battery.
The tips, and information, are invaluable. Thank you.
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When should start to charge mobile ? Phone ? At 40%, at the end of The day ?
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Is it okay to charge z ultra overnight? Using sony magnetic charging cable and sony wall charger. I charged the phone at 15, 30, 40 and 50 percent. Does this overcharge my phone. TIA.
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Is it okay to charge z ultra overnight? Using sony magnetic charging cable and sony wall charger. I charged the phone at 15, 30, 40 and 50 percent. Does this overcharge my phone. TIA.
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Yes it is OK, modern power chips are passably intelligent
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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The M-charger that comes with the N6 has 3 modes, standard, turbo1 and turbo2. When the battery is charged below 78% than one of the turbo modes is active. Because in turbo the voltage is 9 or 12 v the battery can become hot. But the charge capacity will be max 14 watt. The same happens when discharging and using video, maps and internet connection at the same time.
I.m.o a quick charge car charger is not needed, unless you are using videos, game apps, internet etc. when driving. And there is a possibility that the car outlet has a lower capacity than needed for turbo charging,
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I spend a lot of time making short trips in my car, jumping in and out for meetings, and it would be nice to have this feature to get my phone charged back up in the 10 or 15 minutes I might have. I am not so much worried about whether or not the charger can charge the phone over long periods as I am typically just navigating or streaming Bluetooth. If I was using the 500ma ports built into the car then that would be another story.
Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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. . . Most car outlets can run 300+ watt power inverters so I seriously doubt an 30 or 36 watt cell phone charger is going to surpass any limitations. My car has a 30 amp fuse on the outlet which is like 360 watts at 12 volts.
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Sorry but I did not mean the 12 volt outlet, but a USB outlet. Many people here in NL are using usb-adapters in the sigaret lighter outlet. Many USB adapter are max 250mA at 5 volt
As far as I can see every charger will be good as long as the capacity is at least 1A at 5 volt.
skrypj said:
I was thinking about getting a Quick Charge car charger but my only worry is how much heat the phone will make if I plug it in with low battery and am simultaneously navigating with Maps and streaming bluetooth. I used the Turbo Charger that came with the phone for the first time last night and the phone got pretty hot just sitting on the table in standby.
Does anyone have one of these and do you have any issues with the phone heating up excessively or even overheating?
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
I have the quick charger from vzw and have had no issues with it. Ya the phone gets warm, and it lives in a case. Still no issues.
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I use the Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 30W 2 Ports USB Car Charger Adapter with my Nexus 6. I've not found the phone hot after use.
I've run Google Maps navigation with TuneIn streaming music at the same time and managed to get a 20% battery lift in 30 minutes, which is better than the random charger I had before which would be lucky to break even, if not lose 10%.
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Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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This is the one I have. I have only used it a few times but I have had zero issues with it. It seems to charge just as fast as the stock house charger in my opinion. It also has a notification light that lights up blue when it is plugged in / has power and green when it is actually charging your device. Kind of handy imo. I mainly went with this one because of it actually being "Qualcomm Certified" or whatever.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00VH...ar+charger&dpPl=1&dpID=415UvP5jebL&ref=plSrch
This is the cable I got to go with it. It appears to be very nice and of high quality. I don't like being on a short leash.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00SU...+usb+cable&dpPl=1&dpID=31ynDmfEZZL&ref=plSrch
I was looking for a quick charge 2.0 car charger on amazon, and ran into a little Bluetooth fm transmitter that you plug into the cigarette lighter. It has 2 usb ports both 2.1a (21W, 4.2A)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B010ZOK1Q8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The reviews on it seem outstanding
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This is the one i'm rocking and love it
I also got a couple of blitzwolf chargers and they work great as well.
I use this and it works great....
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R3XIKXQ
As for the heat issue, I don't think the the phone will get THAT much hotter using this than it would with a standard charger. I think the majority of heat issues in a car scenario are a result of a combination of (A) having the phone mounted where the sun is shining on it and (B) having the screen on continuously (if navigating). The best way to combat this, in my opinion, is to find a phone holder that attaches to (or around) your car's vent. That way when you have your A/C on on hot days, it will keep the phone cool. It sounds silly but it works surprisingly well (Note: I've never had much issue with any of my phones getting too hot in the winter when this A/C method wouldn't really work).
I'd suggest looking into ProClip mounts... at least for my car and my previous car, they had an option that positioned the mount directly over a vent...
Note: If you are curious about the foam/tape, it's because I have a universal holder and not a Nexus 6 specific holder. The universal is not a great fit for the odd contours of the Nexus 6 so I added some foam.
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skrypj said:
Cool. I snagged the 36w Aukey. Amazon just happened to have a coupon code on it making it $10 while I was pondering the situation so that tipped the scales.
Coupon code is 3C6ZIKJY
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Definitely an awesome charger! I grabbed it on a similar deal!
I will keep the original post updated in case I run into any issues or any other things I like about this product.
Packaging
The wireless charger came in a very nice slip cover box that was very well put together to protect the things that it came with. Included in the package was the charger itself, a 3ft. USB cable, a nice set of thorough directions. The only thing I did not like is that it does not come with it's own charging block because the fast charging block that comes with Samsung devices does not work for some reason. It does have to be a 18W charging block otherwise the pad will not charge your device in fast mode
The Charging Pad
The pad is very simple in design and is a very minimal footprint anywhere that you may put it. It only has on port on it, the power input. It would be nice if it had another USB power out on it, but in doing so would make the charging pad bigger in size. It does feature 4 rubber feet on the bottom of the pad that are supposed to help to keep it from slipping around and I found them to do their ob well on all but the smoothest of surfaces. The pad also includes a raised rubber design on the top to keep your phone from sliding off and I found that these actually did a very well at their job, with or without a case. Other than that it has a LED light on one corner that is very bright and easy to see at any time of the day, unless you use a larger phone such as me and then the phone covers the LED.
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Wireless Charging
The charging pad actually does a very good job at what it does. For such a small device I was actually getting very close to what a charging cable will apply to the phone with the stock charging block. I used two different apps, Ampre and Galaxy Charging Current to read the charge rate of my Samsung Galaxy s7 Edge. I will update this post later with actual charge times on my phone as it has been difficult to drain this battery and be able to keep and eye on it charging in one sitting.
Overall I really like the charging pad and can see myself using it for quite awhile. It does it a good job at what it was designed to do, but my only complaint is that it does not come with a charging block. This means that you have to use a fast charging one that came with your phone, unless it is a Samsung block, then you have to buy another one.
What app is that?
Which one?
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Which one?
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This one
That is ampre...as it says at the top left of the screen lol.
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I own the same charger as you (T513S) and I agree with your review, it is a great one. My S7 edge does not get super hot at all although it is a 3 coil charger and it is fast. Obviously not as fast as a wired QC charger, but still faster than my Samsung fast charge wireless charger. I know it's weird that a third-party brand is faster than the original brand, but it is the case!
I also own the T511S charger from CHOETECH and it is also a really good one. The main difference is the shape of the charger. It's a little bit smaller than the one you just reviewed, however it is very easy to just put the phone on it in any way possible and to charge it.
As with the T513S, the T511S also has a Led that tells you when it's charging and when it has finished charging, which is a plus. Neither of my S7 nor S7 edge are getting too hot when charged.
I fully charged my S7 edge from about 8% to 100% in 1.5Hrs but let's not forget that the first 40% are charged very fast compared to the remaining 60%. That means you can go from close to 0 to 40 in a few minutes (about 15).
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The reviews on amazon are amazing and it's only £9.99 in the UK. At the price I wasn't sure it would be a good investment but it sure was! Really great product! I actually bought 2.
Had the 3 coil choetech charging pad and proper charging adapter for a few days. phone and Pad got extremely hot send it back. I understand this happens with fast charging but I want my battery to last and this was hot not warm to the touch.
Heat + Battery = Short Life Span
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vivelafrance said:
I own the same charger as you (T513S) and I agree with your review, it is a great one. My S7 edge does not get super hot at all although it is a 3 coil charger and it is fast. Obviously not as fast as a wired QC charger, but still faster than my Samsung fast charge wireless charger. I know it's weird that a third-party brand is faster than the original brand, but it is the case!
I also own the T511S charger from CHOETECH and it is also a really good one. The main difference is the shape of the charger. It's a little bit smaller than the one you just reviewed, however it is very easy to just put the phone on it in any way possible and to charge it.
As with the T513S, the T511S also has a Led that tells you when it's charging and when it has finished charging, which is a plus. Neither of my S7 nor S7 edge are getting too hot when charged.
I fully charged my S7 edge from about 8% to 100% in 1.5Hrs but let's not forget that the first 40% are charged very fast compared to the remaining 60%. That means you can go from close to 0 to 40 in a few minutes (about 15).
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The reviews on amazon are amazing and it's only £9.99 in the UK. At the price I wasn't sure it would be a good investment but it sure was! Really great product! I actually bought 2.
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@vivelafrance Sorry mate,the second one,is this one? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C40OG22/ref=s9_acsd_hps_bw_c_x_1
Are you using it also for charging it during the night?Can you chose only the fast charging mode or also the normal mode?Just asking you this,because i know that with fast charging,the battery can degrade more easily...Tnx
@Flamehell It must be this fast model, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B016DAFUGY/
Thanks
I have been searching for this info everywhere. Thanks man.
vivelafrance said:
I own the same charger as you (T513S) and I agree with your review, it is a great one. My S7 edge does not get super hot at all although it is a 3 coil charger and it is fast. Obviously not as fast as a wired QC charger, but still faster than my Samsung fast charge wireless charger. I know it's weird that a third-party brand is faster than the original brand, but it is the case!
I also own the T511S charger from CHOETECH and it is also a really good one. The main difference is the shape of the charger. It's a little bit smaller than the one you just reviewed, however it is very easy to just put the phone on it in any way possible and to charge it.
As with the T513S, the T511S also has a Led that tells you when it's charging and when it has finished charging, which is a plus. Neither of my S7 nor S7 edge are getting too hot when charged.
I fully charged my S7 edge from about 8% to 100% in 1.5Hrs but let's not forget that the first 40% are charged very fast compared to the remaining 60%. That means you can go from close to 0 to 40 in a few minutes (about 15).
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The reviews on amazon are amazing and it's only £9.99 in the UK. At the price I wasn't sure it would be a good investment but it sure was! Really great product! I actually bought 2.
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Charger that comes with this phone is just labeled fast charge... Phone seems to charge pretty slow also from what I see.
i just installed some dual 2.4A usb outlets in my house they charge very fast from 8% to 100% in about an hour, considering the Amperage on the stock charger is 1.8A it doesn't seem like it would be enough to use the phone while charging.
I havent used the stock charger yet but mine reads it puts out [email protected] 1.8amps or [email protected] 1.8amps. I am waiting for my battery to get really low so i can see how fast it will charge.
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When the OEM charger is plugged in, swipe down and you can see it says it's being fast charged.
When plugged in, my screen does say Quick Charge, and my phone charged rather fast, but still getting used to it. Even when I had my phone plugged into a normal new USB C plugged directly into my usb outlet, it seemed to charge much faster than I was expecting.
Yes I understand it says fast charging, so does the quick charge 2.0 with this phone, but is it actually charging at QC 3.0 speeds??
It seems silly they would make a Quick Charge 3.0 phone and not supply the relevant charger.
I ordered an aftermarket QC 3.0 charger, I guess I can do some comparisons when it shows up.
Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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Anker makes a very nice Quick Charge 3.0 charger.
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They didn't give a qc2.0 charger with g4
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I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
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I performed a test with the aftermarket QC 3.0 charger linked above and the one supplied with the phone. I drained to 90% and as soon as it hit 90 I plugged it in and started the timer. The results are nearly identical in how fast 100% charge was achieved.
The first screenshot of total time was the aftermarket charger and the 2nd is the factory charger. I would venture to guess based on these results, the factory charger is QC 3.0, but you can draw your own conclusions.
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Well if the stock charger says 9V @ 1.8A and 5V @ 1.8A, then it's not true QC 3.0 as that uses voltages from 5V - 20V.
turbodroid said:
I got this one, it's half the price. Will be here today.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B015ZJKWFS/ref=ya_st_dp_summary
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There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
Before any of you rush out and buy a cheap charger to save a few bucks I'd think twice about it. I have been screwed by cheap chargers on more than one occasion which is why I refuse to buy them anymore.
I've had them stop working after a couple weeks and many of them made a very annoying noise. Some made a high pitch squealing noise while just sitting there doing nothing and others made the noise while charging.
Slow and Fast
I noticed it charged VERY slow at first while i was using the phone at the same time. I notoced the charger wasnt even slighty warm to the touch after 30+ minutes. That made me think and noticed if I left the phone at rest without turning it on it charges much quicker and the charger got warm quick. And the charger actually cools down if you start using it half way through a charge.
*I took a screen shot of the battery usage graph, but I'm new so I can't post photos yet so you'll have to trust me lol
My rough estimates are that if you are using the phone while charging it will take just over 2 hours, but if you don't touch it then it charges in under 50 minutes.
Mind you phones battery temperature also effects the charge rate, is if you have it on top of a pillow it might not charge as quick.
You don't wanna use the phone while it quick charges. Turn screen off for an hour and it will be done
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Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
The charger that came with the G5 is the same charger that came with my v10, it is only Quick Charge 2.0, I have compared the model #'s and they are exactly the same. I have gone on amazon and ordered a Anker Quick Charge 3.0 plug and a couple of their USB-C cables.
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I just contacted LG through their website via E-Mail regarding the Quick Charge 3.0 charger, I will follow-up once I receive an email back from them. The website advised that I should receive an email within 24 hours.
Noodels1987 said:
There only will be a minimal effect because the original charger has a 9V and 1.8A = 16W rating.
All Aftermarket charger with QC 3.0 had a maximum reading of 18W, 9V at 2A or 12v at 1.5A.
And you can't do a comparison at the last 10%percent of the charging process, because of of the method that's just to charge lithium battery's.
Lithium-ion battery see charge and discharge
Around the last 10% will be constant voltage where the charger has minimal influence. Because the internal resistance of the battery cause the amount of power that goes in the battery.
Ca you do another test with larger charge?
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I have drained to 50% and am performing the same test with the factory charger now. Will update results later this evening so I can repeat with the aftermarket charger.
evobyte said:
Dude how are you basing charging speeds from 90% to 100%.../
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It's a wonder why anyone tries to share information on this site with comments like this. Since you probably only skimmed over what I posted, I said feel free to draw your own conclusions and that it was a 'quick test'.
When the phone gets to 80 % the other 20% go pretty slow, might even be similar to the QC 2.0... But 50% to 100% would be a good test, and we can see if there's a difference
The day 1 when I charged my google pixel 6, I had my heart stopped because while going to sleep I connected the charger and when I woke up the battery went down from 44% to 33% showing "connected, not charging" I thought this is it.
But then through out the whole day I was going through tonnes of videos and posts which confirmed one thing for sure that Google Pixel 6 doesn't go more than 22W on PPS charger. Finally fingers crossed I was going to spend on Anker 65W but then came across Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger with PPS. My goodness the charger does what it does, charges 50% in 30 minutes and remaining reaching slowly in another 45 minutes which is enough and sounds safe to me.
I am posting this because many look around the internet for solutions like me, if I can contribute a little.
Amazon.com
It's very ironic. I was initially going to buy the official Google charger for the 30W despite already having a 20W one. I just bought another 20W charger in the Anker Nano one which also serves me perfectly fine as 20W is good enough; don't need the extra 2-3W ^^
Ayyyy! Snagged one too! It was half off bringing it down to $10!
For those in the UK the Belkin 25W Boost Wall Charger is currently reduced to £12.99 on Amazon.
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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This is what I have
https://a.aliexpress.com/_vSk1m8
33w pps and small it should be dropping againnfor black Friday.
Dropped to 4 quid in the 11.11 sale bf drops to 6
That belkin one decent tho
I bought the original Google charger 30w.Peek is 22 too.
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
utnick said:
Did it charge at the same rate all the way to 100%?
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It did. 2900+ ma constant.
It's a power supply for a xfinity box. They are not even expensive, like 15 bucks.
I was reading about chargers and power supply which the power supply is always the same but chargers have temperature sensors? Maybe was about something else....
I may be mistaken
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
With a Baseus gan 2 65w charger I constantly see more than 20w charging except the percentage is high. I think this one has pd3 which supports PPS.
Do not trust Franco readings. Get an inline meter if you need absolute certainty.
You could very well be hitting those speeds since the charger looks to be compatible.
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Constant 3A means nothing. You're maxing out at 15W since it's not PPS. Higher current is not a good indicator.
Testing random power bricks is pointless unless you know it supports PPS.
A PPS charger can fluctuate between 1-4 amps and have a constantly adjusting voltage to maximize power output.
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Understood.
Still, it got from 0 to 65% in like 40 minutes then I disconnected because I had to leave.. As soon as I receive mine, I'll do some stats and post them here.
I thought PPS chargers have a 3a max and is not constant, it goes up and down, depending on the battery itself.
The more amps that pulls, the faster it charges... Or am I wrong?
It's not correct. Power is current multiplied by voltage.
3A at 1V is only 3W. PD is usually 5V or 9V.
Google's can do 1.5A at 20V to reach 30W for supported devices.
For me, the more amps that pull the faster it charges... Voltage don't mean anything.
Voltage have great effect. Power is electrical current (amperes) multiplied by voltage (volts). For example 1 ampere at 5 volts is just 5 watts but same 1 ampere at 20 volts is 20 watts which is much higher. Different charging technologies have different approaches to send maximum power from charger to the phone but generally most use higher voltage to transfer power above 10 W because most usb cables do not support more than 2 to 3 A of current. Before charging the battery itself phone converts back the high voltage to low voltage suitable for the battery (usually between 3.5 and 4 volts). If you are looking at software programs like aida 64 or ampere - they read the current at this stage so this is why more current at that level means faster charging because the voltage is already reduced to what is needed by the battery. Generally you have something like this:
1. Phone and charger negotiate needed power and they way it will be achieved based on the capabilities of the charger, phone and cable connecting them. Let's say that they agree for 20W which is 10 V with 2 A current.
2. Charger transforms 220 V AC to 10 V DC and phone starts drawing 2A of power.
3. Internally in the phone voltage is transformed from 10 V to 4 V which causes current to rise to 5 A which are fed to the battery.
Here is a great analogy showing the relation between voltage, current, power and resistance using something as simple as water hose.
https://www.freeingenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Electricity-101-v2.png
utnick said:
Received the charger and it is as advertised. It peaked at around 25W and then settled at around 22.5W. Something to note is that the longer Anker cable I used to use drops it down to around 8.7W so the cable matters a lot.
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My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
eloko said:
I found a charger, more like power supply, that it gives constant 3a
Xfinity EPS-10
not sure if it will damage the battery though, I tried once and it charged it pretty fast... Someone can input something about this?
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It shouldn't damage it as charging is controlled by the SoC.
Kramer679 said:
My 10ft type c to type c cable doesn't charge any slower than the supplied cable. However it is worth noting that anyone using a type a to type c will be limited to 15w.
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Ahhhh. Yeah, it's type A to type C.