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I've heard that you guys have folio100s with 512MB ram,
But mine has 1GB ram, dunno why....
now that I flashed Dexter's Mod foliomodv1.4,
which is a 512MBRAM version,
Now my OS cannot recognize all of my RAM, it just recognizes 751MB of the 1GB.
the data is gotten from typing 'free' in console mode.
what should I do to find the hidden part of my ram back to work?
I've tried CyanogenMod7, and it's worse, the ram decreases to exactly 512MB.
Thx to anyone who will help me with this!Sincerely!
How do you know there is really 1Gb ram in your folio ? Don't you think it's probably just a bug showing 1 gb intead of 512 mb?
Jean.luc said:
How do you know there is really 1Gb ram in your folio ? Don't you think it's probably just a bug showing 1 gb intead of 512 mb?
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it says so on the label at the back side beside the battery.
and when I'm on native rom the 'free' command shows 990MB free memory, and I always use up to 700+MB ram running all kinds of apps.
but however, as everybody knows, the native rom sucks.
so, is there a way I can adjust the foliomod to yield some more ram?
OK. I was a bit surprised and was thinking that it could be due to a bug.
Unfortunatly I have no answer to your problem.
Is this one of the new batch that was supposed to relaunch in April, or are you just lucky?
I have that label too that says my folio has 1gb ram, Bought my folio about 2 months ago?
How can i find out does it really have 1gb ram?
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theheat94 said:
I have that label too that says my folio has 1gb ram, Bought my folio about 2 months ago?
How can i find out does it really have 1gb ram?
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The native rom will tell you your total ram is 990MB. And you can experience great multitasking !
So, dude, wr are the minority, we should try to fix it, don't you think?
I bought my Folio a month ago and only have 512 Mb reported by Cyanogen.
Do someone know why there are some differences here ?
Mine has 512 mb ram, and 1gb for app installation.
Maybe the inscription in the box is 1gb of ram , for app.
If you really do have 1 gb of ram, lucky you
Ill check that out, ill post my results here then
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who would continue with this problem?
I am still confused, I recently have returned to the native rom and obtained the latest official update, it is really stable, with touchscreen responsive, though poor graphic performance(opengl1.1) and wrong direction of sensor in some games.
but the ram reported is the same as foliomodv1.4, that is, 751MB, don't you think it is interesting? it's like the DDR2 ram has 8 blocks with each 128MB, and foliomod has discovered only 6 of them, while Cyanogenmod discovered only 4 of them, that's why Cyanogenmod reports 482MB total ram.
in fact, seen from the dissembly pictures sent from a guy in China like me, there really are 8 similar blocks on the chipboard, with 128MB written on each block as the guy told.
So what do you think, guys? Is it possible to find the hidden memory blocks and get them to work? I think it is highly possible, for different roms report different total ram, and some of them well exceeds the assumed 512MB, that's an implication that some of the folio100 really are bestowed with 1GB ram, rather than 512MB. So why can't there be a rom that makes full use of the ram?
I believe we are the last group of Folio100 users inthe world, so we are gonna stick together to make the most out of our device, guess what, newly published devices mostly have the same hardware as our folio(I mean the 1GB version), except for the screen, but I don't see it as an unacceptable shortcoming. Lower resolution sometimes mean higher performance. I've tried Backbreaker THD running on MOTO XOOM, though the graphics are good, but as I expected it isn't so smooth as running on Folio100. So disadvantages come with advantages, that's why we'll stick to Folio100, at least Before Tegra3 becomes trivial.
Expecting replies from you !! In hope of a better rom and a better tomorrow!
Me too...
CM9/ICM , it just recognizes 512MB of the 1GB.(RAM)
But FolioNotion2.0 recognizes 1G.
I can't paly games like Plants vs Zombies in CM9/ICM ,But in FolioNotion,It works perfect....
I am still confused...
folio100---512M Rom
AS100---1G Rom
Xda Rom just dev for folio100... So,we are just recognizes 512M.
but FolioNotion have recognizes 1G,Why?
1GB with foliomod 1.4
as100 with 1gb ram,and a recently flashed ics rom changed it to 375mb.......those who r confused with the 1gb ram on folio can go to search the pics of disassembly of as100 in some chinese website, after u do that u could fing that there r 8 ram chips installed on the pcb while some of the folio may only have 4installed...
i checked now my folio,...
http://db.tt/dVei7u49 on the top on the right side, is a small sticker 1GB000
CM9 shows me 364M
Is there any way to test it on cm9?
Crunon said:
i checked now my folio,...
http://db.tt/dVei7u49 on the top on the right side, is a small sticker 1GB000
CM9 shows me 364M
Is there any way to test it on cm9?
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I have that sticker with 1GB000 as well, does that mean I have a 1 GB device?
DT84 said:
I have that sticker with 1GB000 as well, does that mean I have a 1 GB device?
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Maybe someone can test it with Ubuntu?
I have the sticker with 01GB000.
I checked the picture of the hardware (ref.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868617)
On one side there are 4 chip NT5TU128M8DE-AC that is a 128Mx8 DDR2-800
so 128M x 8 = 1Gbit and 4 x 1Gbit = 4Gbit = 512 Mbyte.
On the other side there is a place for additional RAM (see picture BILD2387)
If you have the chips in these place you have additional 512Mbyte of ram otherwise no.
To open this box you have to remove only the back cover and open the box with a cutter under the corner with the arrow.
In my case there aren't additional chips of RAM.
So the sticker 01G000 is not for RAM info.
Sorry.
Bye
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I have the sticker with 01GB000.
I checked the picture of the hardware (ref.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868617)
On one side there are 4 chip NT5TU128M8DE-AC that is a 128Mx8 DDR2-800
so 128M x 8 = 1Gbit and 4 x 1Gbit = 4Gbit = 512 Mbyte.
On the other side there is a place for additional RAM (see picture BILD2387)
If you have the chips in these place you have additional 512Mbyte of ram otherwise no.
To open this box you have to remove only the back cover and open the box with a cutter under the corner with the arrow.
In my case there aren't additional chips of RAM.
So the sticker 01G000 is not for RAM info.
Sorry.
Bye
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I've just checked and there's no extra RAM for me as well.
Thank you anyway for your explaination.
I also have the AS100 model with 1GB RAM. Does any one know how to modify ROM to detect all available RAM?
What is the big difference between the 16 and 8gb besides the ram ?
there really is no other differnce
(besides ram and storage)
yes. the internal sd goes from 8 to 16gb and then the working ram from a half a gig to a full gig. maybe the later gives it a tiny speed boost ? maybe...
There's a bit more to it than that. Fattire broke down some of the key differences when the 8GB launched.
Also, one should note that no version of B&N's OS before 1.4.2 will work on the 8GB and there are quite a few roms (I think all of the cm7 based ones) that will not work on the internal memory of the 8GB model without some modification.
Also, less RAM = less multitasking capability. Someone actually made a point the other day that we oddly enough differentiate between the two based on the internal memory size (8GB vs. 16GB) when in reality, the important difference is actually the RAM, as this actually has performance implications on the device.
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What is the big difference between the 16 and 8gb besides the ram ?
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I found my way here while trying to make an informed decision. I could be totally wrong, but it looked to me like the 16GB has 2X the support from this amazingly talented pool of xdadevelopers. (SOLD! )
Oh, yeah. And the 8GB is cheaper, too.
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there really is no other differnce
(besides ram and storage)
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If that's the case, then does the difference between the 8 and the Nook Color come down to the processor and the price?
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Nook Tablet is lighter, has better battery life, a microphone (though it doesn't have bluetooth and the nook color does, albeit short ranged) and as you mentioned the better processor, which is kind of important.
So I should I even root my nook tablet (8gb) yet, will it just give me the market?
It depends on what you want.
Just rooting will give you access to the google play store which has a ton more apps than the B&N app store. You could install a custom launcher (like go launcher or adw launcher) to give it a full user interface change as well. Or you could install a custom rom like cm7/cm9 for a complete OS change.
I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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I'm betting some of you have a Nexus 7, did you notice that the free ram is about 950MB out of the the Gig that it comes with?
Why do our phone only have like 720MB available if the tablet has so much more?
Both the tablet and our phones have 1 gig, so what gives?
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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Of that one gig of ram there is firm ware and the OS and some preloaded apps on the Nexus 7 on your phone it is about the same but with a skinned UI and then the carriers bloatware on top of that. It all takes up ram, so no bloatware or skinned UI gives you more ram on your Nexus 7.:good:
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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If i'm running a custom rom on my phone with straight AOSP why does the available ram on my phone stay at 720mb like stock?
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Its full ram is used to play apps and games on your Nexus 7.
Also...the nexus tablet doesn't have a cell antenna...So no mobile data to keep track of, those services are running on your phone all the time
A friend of mine bought At&t Galaxy S3 and it suppose to have 2gb Ram but when i check the phone it show 1.6GB ram and only 1.03gb available. so i guess it is used by system or graphic or something. Just like the computers that doesn't have dedicated graphic card so if your computer has 4gb ram you would have 3gb ram available the rest is reserved for graphic. i am just assuming that the same this is happening to our phone. if i remember correctly when i had CM9 and when i went to setting, about phone it showed only 768mb instead of 1gb.
I have all 16 on my computer.
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I think it's reserved for graphics or something. Guessing.
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
My only gripe with the Note is the 1GB of ram. You only have about 350mb available and as we all know, Android caches stuff you run, but most of the time your not holding many apps in that free 350MB so its always restarting apps anyways. This phone (any ICS phone really) needs 2gb of ram.
I've used the S3 and yeah, its super snappy because so much more stays in all that extra active ram... Samsung saw the light and added extra ram, I hope this is a new trend... How do we get a 2gb chip soldered in place of the 1gb chip
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Yeah, i'm sure your right, its reserved for video and whatnot, but why doesn't the Nexus 7 need that video ram used up? It's got a pretty fast video chip too...
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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Tegra 3 has its own dedicated ram.
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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That's a pretty good trick then. That alone would make me be sure my next phone was a Tegra 3. Not for the speed, but you really need more ram...
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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You could always get the S3 or some other phone with 2GB ram.
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I'm not giving up my Galaxy Note's huge screen Hoping the Note 2 gets 2gb of ram
Our phones are deliberately under-clocked to 716, some may say it's for the battery life but I think it's because the higher clock speeds lead to shorter phone life. Using custom kernels, you can clock back up or even overclock. The payment is made mostly in battery life, but if your ROM has a memory leak of even the smallest size, overclocking will open the dam and the phone will suffer for it. Also, the phone will run at a higher temperature, which for sure will end its life much faster than leaving it at 716. This is the way I feel about overclocking: If you get the performance you want, leave it alone.
Wtf??
Clock speeds have not a single thing to do with ram whatsoever
Overclock is for the cpu
Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Aside from the OCD of the available RAM number, how has this negatively impacted your user experience? Are applications running slowly or crashing?
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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Apps are continuously closing and having to be relaunched (slower). Back in the older days of android where apps were 20-30mb it wasn't a huge deal, but some of these new games/apps take up well over 100mb of ram. everything else in the background is closed as it needs to make room..
Would be nice to have more active app space for a much smoother "multitasking" experience.
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Are you running more than one game that takes 100+ MB of RAM at a time? Do you jump from one game to another in the middle of action?
Sounds like you want to just want to be able to adjust your LMK settings. I don't believe there is kernel that lets you do that yet, but I'm sure there will be eventually.
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Sounds like we need a high speed dev to create some software to access the SD card and use it as ram....
Is that even possible ????...Hmmmmmm
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not quite.. SDs speed of 20-30MB/s is a far cry from the 1GB of LPDDR2 "333Mhz?"in our note with a transfer rate of 5,333MB/s
Hello!
Do You think that the 3GB RAM version of Redmi Note 4 will be sufficient? I's about 1.5 GB left to the user after switching on the phone. In future there will be updates for MIUI or maybe OS to Android 8.
Shall the 3 GB be enough in your opinion or should I be worried and definitely go buy a 4 GB RAM version?
I do plan on getting LineageOS installed on it BTW.
@androidbadboy
Note that the 4GB RAM version has 64GB of memory as opposed to 32GB for the 3GB RAM. If you plan on downloading lots of apps/games, then you should go with the 4GB one. Otherwise 3GB RAM should be enough for your average daily use. Android handles memory quite well nowadays.
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@androidbadboy
Note that the 4GB RAM version has 64GB of memory as opposed to 32GB for the 3GB RAM. If you plan on downloading lots of apps/games, then you should go with the 4GB one. Otherwise 3GB RAM should be enough for your average daily use. Android handles memory quite well nowadays.
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Agree with you.
My one is 3GB version.
I've been using it for month. Every time I check the memory status are always show free 1GB~1.3GB...
Switching game to game are never lag. (Clash Royal, candy crush, clash of clans, mobile legend...)
Despite I don't feel any lag at all, I still not feel so satisfied the memory occupied more than 60%.
and this is still very worth to save that USD40.
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Hello!
Do You think that the 3GB RAM version of Redmi Note 4 will be sufficient? I's about 1.5 GB left to the user after switching on the phone. In future there will be updates for MIUI or maybe OS to Android 8.
Shall the 3 GB be enough in your opinion or should I be worried and definitely go buy a 4 GB RAM version?
I do plan on getting LineageOS installed on it BTW.
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If 4GB one fits ur budget then u should go for it. U will get a better ram management as well as a roomy internal storage. Tho 30-40 dollars is worth to paid on this gap.
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how about 2gb variant. Note that i will be flashing custom roms and i dont play games at all.. i just use chrome, spotify and some other apps.. will it hang or lag during multitasking?
poran123 said:
how about 2gb variant. Note that i will be flashing custom roms and i dont play games at all.. i just use chrome, spotify and some other apps.. will it hang or lag during multitasking?
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Wont lag but switching between app would almost always resulting in the app reloading, especially chrome. 3gb is the absolute minimum nowadays for better experience.
no,I think they are same
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3gb is the absolute minimum nowadays for better experience.
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I second that.
I have a 3GB RAM version of Xiaomi and I 'm worried as I monitor RAM usage while launching built in simple apps like camera and gallery as they are eating memory like ice-cream on a hot summer day. I'm not sure how it will respond to new versions of MIUI, Android, roms etc.
Having a phone below 3GB of RAM is a TORTURE! Don't let anyone fool ya that it's not. Maybe if you install a special low-ram custom made rom designed for simple tasks with cut out services or whatever it is that the dev make to actually being able to use the phone with Android 6, 7 or even 8 on board.
BTW there are very low priced phones on the market with 1,5 GB of RAM - that's a suicide! Do not approach these kind of devices!
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I second that.
I have a 3GB RAM version of Xiaomi and I 'm worried as I monitor RAM usage while launching built in simple apps like camera and gallery as they are eating memory like ice-cream on a hot summer day. I'm not sure how it will respond to new versions of MIUI, Android, roms etc.
Having a phone below 3GB of RAM is a TORTURE! Don't let anyone fool ya that it's not. Maybe if you install a special low-ram custom made rom designed for simple tasks with cut out services or whatever it is that the dev make to actually being able to use the phone with Android 6, 7 or even 8 on board.
BTW there are very low priced phones on the market with 1,5 GB of RAM - that's a suicide! Do not approach these kind of devices!
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So it’s not a good idea to buy 2gb ram variant.???
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So it’s not a good idea to buy 2gb ram variant.???
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It's bad idea. You would shake before any upgrade of MIUI, Android, rom etc cause it may lead to slow down your phone to a very irritating degree.
But first, tell me what's the overall price for the 2GB version and what's the overall price for the 3GB version and in both cases tell me the full model name.
Tell me also what will you do with that phone other than calling, sms texting.
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If 4GB one fits ur budget then u should go for it. U will get a better ram management as well as a roomy internal storage. Tho 30-40 dollars is worth to paid on this gap.
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Thanks for the advice but can You explain how the 4 GB of RAM vs. 3 GB of RAM makes a better ram management?
4gb just let you have more apps before its killed by android. If you're not multitasking in 10 apps, you wont feel the difference.
sharonsym said:
4gb just let you have more apps before its killed by android. If you're not multitasking in 10 apps, you wont feel the difference.
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If I use 5 apps at the time, standard build in apps like camera, gallery, web-browser, video-player, spotify the 3GB version would satisfy me even If am doing it on a future version of MIUI and Android 8.1?
androidbadboy said:
If I use 5 apps at the time, standard build in apps like camera, gallery, web-browser, video-player, spotify the 3GB version would satisfy me even If am doing it on a future version of MIUI and Android 8.1?
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More than enough. You need 4gb if:
You install all the chat client: fb, wa, bbm, line, telegram, skype.... Then you double them with dual apps.
Or you want to split screen... Gaming while reading multiple tabs of websites while pip-ing video / streaming spotify.
Yeah, its insane....
And when you do above things. 4gb wont help you too... Your processor will lags because of too many process.
For me 4gb is a waste, but it offer +32gb storage which is more matter. You can save more picture, videos.
If you're not saving many data, its better to go 3/32... Remember that the +1gb ram and +32gb might use more power too.
Thanks for all the answers, I get the picture now.
I think there would be a newer better phone out there before I would make use of that 4 GB of RAM.
Would You agree?
There is a note 4 model which has 3Gb Ram and 64Gb storage I think it is Mediatek. Like this one advertised here
Are there any ROMs for it?
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Having a phone below 3GB of RAM is a TORTURE! Don't let anyone fool ya that it's not. Maybe if you install a special low-ram custom made rom designed for simple tasks with cut out services or whatever it is that the dev make to actually being able to use the phone with Android 6, 7 or even 8 on board.
BTW there are very low priced phones on the market with 1,5 GB of RAM - that's a suicide! Do not approach these kind of devices!
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I never had a problem with a 1.5GB RAM device :b. My S3 Neo performs blazing fast on Nougat and my Y5 too which is a gig of a device
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Tisenoiazei100 said:
I never had a problem with a 1.5GB RAM device :b. My S3 Neo performs blazing fast on Nougat and my Y5 too which is a gig of a device
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Seriously? I'd have to see it to believe it.
on stock rom there's no way these can provide good experiance while enjoying phone.
One thing you people don't see is that less ram usage doesn't mean a faster phone. 3gb might be enough for you but I'd recommend the 4gb one as it has 64gb of memory and you wouldn't find much of a lag for a few years atleadt.
IDK how you use your phone or neither care
My 3GB mido performs blazing fast on both MIUI and Pixel Experience. Games run great, Apps load fast, Web browsing is buttery smooth. I use my phone mostly for some gaming, YT videos and work.
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There is quite big price difference between 6gb and 8gb version (€280 vs 380€) so that is quite a lot and does not seem worth it but I have heard about some MIUI performance issues with only 6gb of ram. I don't play games but I multitask a lot. How is the performance?
I think you'll be fine with 6gb. I wouldn't pay €100 extra for 8gb, maybe €20 or 30.
I have the 6gb model and it's fine. The latest update gives you 2gb memory extension on top of the 6gb so it works out at 8gb overall.
Depends. If you use a lot of apps at the same time, difference between 6 and 8 GB is quite significant. I do and after they let us extend RAM to UFS, I even feel those 3 additional GBs giving me 11 in total. Never too much RAM if you multitask a lot.
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There is quite big price difference between 6gb and 8gb version (€280 vs 380€) so that is quite a lot and does not seem worth it but I have heard about some MIUI performance issues with only 6gb of ram. I don't play games but I multitask a lot. How is the performance?
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The 6GB Ram 11 lite 5G's performance is actually good for a budget phone, there are no hanging issues also I didn't feel any heating problem and I'm using it for a month now.
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I think you'll be fine with 6gb. I wouldn't pay €100 extra for 8gb, maybe €20 or 30.
I have the 6gb model and it's fine. The latest update gives you 2gb memory extension on top of the 6gb so it works out at 8gb overall.
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Sorry for my question but can you answer me what version of rom you are using?
I am currently using xiaomi.eu 21.11.24 and cannot find this option.
I would appreciate your help .
akihito95 said:
Sorry for my question but can you answer me what version of rom you are using?
I am currently using xiaomi.eu 21.11.24 and cannot find this option.
I would appreciate your help .
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12.5.5. additional settings > memory extension
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12.5.5. additional settings > memory extension
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I get it, all clear.
Everything indicates that this feature in xiaomi.eu simply does not exist for this phone.
At least in the nightly version, maybe in the stable version is available, currently I have no way to check this