Hi, I just got the notification that the Android 13 update is ready for my phone. But I'm not really sure if it's worth to go through with the update. I wouldn't want to wait another 6 months for stupid fixes needed. If anyone was brave enough to install it let me know how your experience has been so far. Thanks!
CONFIRMED BUGS FOUND BY USERS AFTER THE UPDATE:
Screen flickering when using auto refresh rate. The screen quickly changes between 120hz and lower causing flickering especially on darker tones (from grey to black). This is almost certain to happen, be ready if you choose to go through with the update!
Increased contrast. Screen constrast has been increased requiring increased brightness for outdoor visibility. Poor viewing performance in bright day light and overall darker hues at lower brightness levels
Charging issues. Phones are not charging correctly when turned on, constantly disconnecting. Charging when the phone is off is the only solution. Wireless charging is also affected and unusable due to overheating that stops the phone from chaeging
Moto Secure folder locked. Moto Secure folders cause the phone to crash and can't be unlocked anymore. Do not use Moto Secure folders to avoid data loss!
Ready For broken. If you try to connect your smartphone to the TV no output is displayed
HDR video playback is broken. When trying to play back HDR video from any app it shows as SDR. No brightness increase as it was in Android 12.
POSSIBLE ISSUES:
Overall performance degradation. Some users are experiencing slow downs and an increased heat output from the device
Audio playback not working. Some users are reporting audio not working after boot. Startup sound works as usual
Increased battery consumption
Connectivity issues might appear during calls or mobile data usage. Reports are not clear about specific conditions in which these issue appears
Screen flashes white when waking the device through the fingerprint reader
Fingerprint reader breaks and might show up as not working in the built in diagnostic software
MISSING FEATURES AFTER THE UPDATE:
Dolby app lost the custom EQ setting
WORKAROUNDS:
A device reset might get rid of most of the issues, beside the flashing screen when using auto refresh rate
To fix the auto refresh rate it is possible to lower the maximum refresh rate from 120Hz to 90Hz. Thanks to @mansell68 for posting it in the thread. Download the app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=by4a.setedit22 and change the parameter "peak_refresh_value" to 90. This will solve the issue for now and let the phone switch between 60 and 90Hz correctly.
Read here.
My friend have the edge 30 pro, after update he had the same issue.
I told him to completely reset the phone after update, but he didn't do it.
giacomowrc said:
Read here.
My friend have the edge 30 pro, after update he had the same issue.
I told him to completely reset the phone after update, but he didn't do it.
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I update my edge about 2 days ago and this is the only issue that i found with, just like says on Lenovo's forums I set the refresh rate on 60hz for the moment until we get an update.
@giacomowrc thank you very much for reporting this issue! I knew there would be something wrong with the update. Motorola just doesn't care anymore.
@iOrizon thank you a lot too for reporting back on the issue. So there's no amount of resetting it to factory that would fix this issue?
@MeltingSnowman tbh this issue doesn't affect me so much so I prefer to wait for a fix instead of reset my phone. There is no a mayor issue that force me to do that, for me at least, and in general I think that is a solid update.
I update it yesterday.
Everything is perfect, no issues, 144hz and automatic refresh working.
Very Stanley and fluid.
With all turner on on the night ONLY consumes 6% of battery on 12 hours.
Great job from Motorola.
Waiting for official a13 update.
@giacomowrc @iOrizon @almmpt you might be having two different releases? The one is asking me to update to is T1SH33.35-23-20. Also I think I got one of the first batch of units since I got it soon after launch. So I might be more affected in case they different hardware revisions that act differently depending on the software.
Also 6% on a 12h night is a bit much to be honest. I wish they addressed the incorrect scheduling that kills this phone's battery but doesn't seem to be the case.
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@giacomowrc @iOrizon @almmpt you might be having two different releases? The one is asking me to update to is T1SH33.35-23-20. Also I think I got one of the first batch of units since I got it soon after launch. So I might be more affected in case they different hardware revisions that act differently depending on the software.
Also 6% on a 12h night is a bit much to be honest. I wish they addressed the incorrect scheduling that kills this phone's battery but doesn't seem to be the case.
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I have This.
With bluetooth, WiFi, and paired with Samsung Smartwatch 5 Pro with all sensors enabled.
100% imperial.
I have the Chinese variant and we still haven't received android 13
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I have This.
With bluetooth, WiFi, and paired with Samsung Smartwatch 5 Pro with all sensors enabled.
100% imperial.
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The wifi and bluetooth pairing with the smartwatch might explain the battery drain, makes sense.
Thanks for the screenshot. But I'm seeing that your play store security updates are stuck to last year and the security patches for the OS are from february. Do they don't get updated with Android 13?
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The wifi and bluetooth pairing with the smartwatch might explain the battery drain, makes sense.
Thanks for the screenshot. But I'm seeing that your play store security updates are stuck to last year and the security patches for the OS are from february. Do they don't get updated with Android 13?
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Hi. The security patch is only from february 2023 on A13.
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Hi. The security patch is only from february 2023 on A13.
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Bruh, this is so stupid! So the security patch is basically rolled back one month. This doesn't make sense. Thanks for the insight.
I updated a couple of days ago. I feel like the battery drain increased, but maybe it'll bounce back? I definitely like the split data/wifi buttons in the notification - I like turning off unneeded services.
I loved the side bar in 12 and it's still great, but I definitely don't see a reason to give it a permanent on-screen indicator in 13 (the half-transparent bar near the power button). It makes a visual mess if I'm using something that has a scroll bar. Let us turn it off...
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I updated a couple of days ago. I feel like the battery drain increased, but maybe it'll bounce back? I definitely like the split data/wifi buttons in the notification - I like turning off unneeded services.
I loved the side bar in 12 and it's still great, but I definitely don't see a reason to give it a permanent on-screen indicator in 13 (the half-transparent bar near the power button). It makes a visual mess if I'm using something that has a scroll bar. Let us turn it off...
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. I was concerned that they would make a mess of it and it happens to be the case, adding to the screen flickering an increased battery drain.
So there's no option to disable the indicator and keep the double tap on the power button to make that side bar appear? What a bummer...
P.S. if you don't mind me asking you have no screen flickering right? Did you get an early batch of the phone or a later one? I'm trying to figure out if they changed hardware revisions for the display and that's causing the flickering. Also any weird colour shifts appearing at night? Like having a darker tint at low/lowest brightness settings?
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Thanks a lot for the feedback. I was concerned that they would make a mess of it and it happens to be the case, adding to the screen flickering an increased battery drain.
So there's no option to disable the indicator and keep the double tap on the power button to make that side bar appear? What a bummer...
P.S. if you don't mind me asking you have no screen flickering right? Did you get an early batch of the phone or a later one? I'm trying to figure out if they changed hardware revisions for the display and that's causing the flickering. Also any weird colour shifts appearing at night? Like having a darker tint at low/lowest brightness settings?
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To be fair I hadn't noticed any screen flickering yet, but I keep the refresh rate at 60 Hz.
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To be fair I hadn't noticed any screen flickering yet, but I keep the refresh rate at 60 Hz.
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If you don't mind trying, see if auto refresh is bugged.
MeltingSnowman said:
P.S. if you don't mind me asking you have no screen flickering right? Did you get an early batch of the phone or a later one? I'm trying to figure out if they changed hardware revisions for the display and that's causing the flickering. Also any weird colour shifts appearing at night? Like having a darker tint at low/lowest brightness settings?
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I got the phone the moment it was available in EU - a little over a year ago. Didn't notice anything extraordinary when it comes to colors.
Will try adaptive refresh rate for a few days.
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I got the phone the moment it was available in EU - a little over a year ago. Didn't notice anything extraordinary when it comes to colors.
Will try adaptive refresh rate for a few days.
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Mine's from the same batch.
Thank you for being so helpful, I really appreciate it. I can link you the Lenovo forum's thread where people are reporting the issue, if you happen to experience it aswell.
Finally arrived in India. Downloading now and will update on my experience soon
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so I returned my sgs2 today and got a new one (old one had scratches). Now it seems to me that there is some flickering with black lines (very faded) on certain brightess settings on mainly white sites using a browser.
I noticed the flickering appears around 16% - 19% brightness settings (using "brightness level" from the market).
This flickering only appears only if "auto adjust screen power" is NOT selected, same brightness with it activated shows no flickering.
Also last but not least if plugged in with USB cable the flickering stops as well.
Can anyone re-produce this flickering?
1. Download "brightness level" from market, go between 16% - 19% (try step by step), with me its strongest at 17%.
2. Ensure "auto adjust screen power" is deactivated under Settings>Display
3. Open Internet and just look at a mostly white page
4. Ensure USB is not connected.
Can you see some slight flickering? Lots of lines across the screen?
Wonder if its just me, might go back and return this one tomorrow then
I assume no one suffers from this issue?
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No flickering.
I get black/dim horizontal lines flickering on the display at low brightness regardless of my "auto adjust screen power" setting. I'd describe it more as a shimmering of the screen. It's very distracting - I first noticed it whilst trying out the Kindle app and it made it very difficult reading the text.
I believe it's down to interference with some radio component of the phone. I've searched various forums and haven't come across many mentions of this so maybe it's a bad batch and I'm considering returning mine. It's frustratingly variable so I hope I can demonstrate the fault in store...
I'm wondering if the increase in brightness just masks the effect rather than eliminating it. At lower brightness settings, any local differences in brightness are going to be more noticeable.
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I get black/dim horizontal lines flickering on the display at low brightness regardless of my "auto adjust screen power" setting. I'd describe it more as a shimmering of the screen. It's very distracting - I first noticed it whilst trying out the Kindle app and it made it very difficult reading the text.
I believe it's down to interference with some radio component of the phone. I've searched various forums and haven't come across many mentions of this so maybe it's a bad batch and I'm considering returning mine. It's frustratingly variable so I hope I can demonstrate the fault in store...
I'm wondering if the increase in brightness just masks the effect rather than eliminating it. At lower brightness settings, any local difference in brightness are going to be more noticeable.
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have you noticed any change at certain battery levels?? Like if the battery was at 90% its easily noticeable, once its like below 70% I'm not able to re-produce it, no matter what I try down to 0%.
So maybe since it seems to be only from 90% - 70%, it could be to do with the current/voltage at certain brightness levels with white background...very unique problem it seems..I'm thinking of going to the o2 store but I most likely wont be able to re-produce it then and there so will they still exchange it? hmmm lets see..
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have you noticed any change at certain battery levels?? Like if the battery was at 90% its easily noticeable, once its like below 70% I'm not able to re-produce it, no matter what I try down to 0%.
So maybe since it seems to be only from 90% - 70%, it could be to do with the current/voltage at certain brightness levels with white background...very unique problem it seems..I'm thinking of going to the o2 store but I most likely wont be able to re-produce it then and there so will they still exchange it? hmmm lets see..
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I'll note down what the battery power levels are over the next week or so.
I went into the O2 store after work and reproducing the effect was indeed difficult. I had it showing the effect in the shopping centre whilst sitting down at a bench. I had it showing the effect whilst in the queue to wait for an O2 staff member. Fifteen minutes later, once I'd got to talking to the staff, it worked fine. All I could do was explain the problem and ask if anyone else had reported it. They advised I "kept an eye on it over the next couple of weeks".
Really frustrating. I'd entertain the possibility that my eyes are faulty but I've shown the effect to someone else and they agreed it was distracting.
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I'll note down what the battery power levels are over the next week or so.
I went into the O2 store after work and reproducing the effect was indeed difficult. I had it showing the effect in the shopping centre whilst sitting down at a bench. I had it showing the effect whilst in the queue to wait for an O2 staff member. Fifteen minutes later, once I'd got to talking to the staff, it worked fine. All I could do was explain the problem and ask if anyone else had reported it. They advised I "kept an eye on it over the next couple of weeks".
Really frustrating. I'd entertain the possibility that my eyes are faulty but I've shown the effect to someone else and they agreed it was distracting.
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Yea same here. Had the manager refuse to exchange it today as i already excjanged one phone...couldnt reproduce it then and there but on on the way there i managed it..o2 sucks
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Locster126 said:
Can you see some slight flickering? Lots of lines across the screen?
Wonder if its just me, might go back and return this one tomorrow then
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Hi,
I was not able to reproduce it using your directions, but I have to say that I also noticed horizontal lines flickering on white.
I tried to reproduce it but I can't find out what it is related to.
So it's doig it just in random fashion
blade75 said:
Hi,
I was not able to reproduce it using your directions, but I have to say that I also noticed horizontal lines flickering on white.
I tried to reproduce it but I can't find out what it is related to.
So it's doig it just in random fashion
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does it flicker with auto brightness on? You might want to download an app like "brightness level" and set it to different settings to see when/where it flickers...mine usually flickered at 17% screenbrightness when battery was at 70 - 90%
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does it flicker with auto brightness on? You might want to download an app like "brightness level" and set it to different settings to see when/where it flickers...mine usually flickered at 17% screenbrightness when battery was at 70 - 90%
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Yes I did download it and followed yur directions to try to repruce it. But I could not. I set then brightness to various level from 100% down to 0, but no luck. I have to try now when battery is at that level. Then it could be some kind of intereference. Lines I noticed on mine are very subtle and close about 1 mm
Ok, confirmed: 92% battery, brightness 17% on white or close to white screen color, there are horizontal lines like some itnerefernce/noise. Annoying
Samsung galaxy S2 screen flickering
I also have the same screen flickering problem.
it happens when the battery level is around 87-91%
Any soulution?
same here
black lines around text on white background. It disappears after a while, but is really annoying. I suppose the only solution is to change the phone?
sorry guys to hear u got the same problem....I never found a resolution to it apart from returning it to the store....once I managed to reproduce the issue infront of the manager he swapped the phone straight away.
If you got the same issue make sure you get to the store with the battery level and brightness level that shows it up, ask to go into a dark area to show it properly.
First o2 store I went to the guy refused to look at it properly and as it was light outside he couldnt see it anyways. Second o2 store I went to, the manager went downstairs with me and turned off the lights to see the flickering because it shows only on low brightness so make sure you take that into consideration when in a bright/well-lit store.
i have the same problem, it, but it only appears when "auto adjust screen power" is on. Its really a shame! Only way to fix it is to change the phone?
same here. flickers at low brightness with battery under 90%. called samsung hotline. the problem was new to them and the only idea they had was resetting the phone. tried it but unsurprisingly its no help. galaxy s2 could be great but it has just too many annoying hardware flaws
Same problem
Well I noticed this on my SGS 1 !! ... when I have PACKET DATA turned on this flickering starts. It starts really hard when i have this function turned on, but when i disable it there's nothing...
Noticed same problem on SG2 bought in Sweden
Realise this is an older topic but i have recently noticed this issue in low light with Auto On. Battery level at 85 percent. For those that had their phones replaced did the issue continue? Has anyone seen this with the yellow tint also?
Noticing this issue as well on Villain ROM 2.4. Auto brightness enabled and 90% battery.
*Edit* Just did a CWM restore to stock rooted and the flickering seems to have gone. 85% battery, auto brightness enabled.
phone swapped... problem kept
i got my phone replaced 2 months ago and was very happy with the new one since it had no screen flicker... until now. so my current sgs 2 now also suffers from screen flicker and my only options are to send it to samsung and hope to get a replacement or to live with it. and since im beginning to think that this might be a general problem i tend to keep it. although i have to admit that i dont like my sgs2 as much as i did before...
Hello,
theres a bug in automatic brightness: if you turn it on and hold it against the sun the brightness will go to maximum but it won't get back (darker).
ImmanuelCunt said:
Hello,
theres a bug in automatic brightness: if you turn it on and hold it against the sun the brightness will go to maximum but it won't get back (darker).
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I can't help myself, 3 thanks virgins in 2 days!!!! Owned!!!! last time I held something up to the sun it melted. Its kinda hot!!!!........
Ok in all seriousness I have not had this issue....did you try rebooting your prime? I have noticed some hicups from time to time, like touch tones stop working....but if I reboot it will work again. I am sure its just the newness of ICS, these things will get ironed out in time.
I leave it off anyways. Its a known automatic brightness is a battery drainer. You'll get better battery life with it off.
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I can't help myself, 3 thanks virgins in 2 days!!!! Owned!!!! last time I held something up to the sun it melted. Its kinda hot!!!!........
Ok in all seriousness I have not had this issue....did you try rebooting your prime? I have noticed some hicups from time to time, like touch tones stop working....but if I reboot it will work again. I am sure its just the newness of ICS, these things will get ironed out in time.
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I wish you took my thanks virginity LOL but yeah i've not come across this issue but who holds their tablet up at the sun... lol
ImmanuelCunt said:
Hello,
theres a bug in automatic brightness: if you turn it on and hold it against the sun the brightness will go to maximum but it won't get back (darker).
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I think this is more of a feature than a bug, although I keep mine at one certain level anyway.
It's to give you a more seamless experience, as soon as the screen goes off and back on it adjusts. It's so when you're reading an article and move from one area to another, you don't get a surprise mid-sentence. I always hated reading things off my phone with auto brightness on, couldn't just focus on the words had to keep tripping up on a constantly changing screen.
With sun i meant that you can hold it against a bright light
Sry for my bad english...
I've actually noticed some differences in the sensitivity of the light sensor on various units. Some do seem to get "stuck," where others maintain an accurate measurement of ambient light. This seems to be correlated to newer units (e.g., C1 units).
The one I'm using right now does switch lighting both more quickly and, it would seem, more accurately. The ones I had previously would get stuck either on high or low brightness (with very little adjustment in between), and I needed to toggle the auto brightness button to get them to adjust to new conditions.
I found auto brightness on the device to be an annoying burden if anything. I just keep it pretty low all the time. Better that way anyways.
Same problem here - The brightness goes up under bright light, and won't readjust until the next screen off/on or reboot.
Does anyone have a Prime that adjusts back down without turning the screen off?
I swear it's intentional and not a bug, although they should offer you the option of controlling its parameters. Just have to wait for the unlocker and some custom ROMage.
But seriously, I think it's to keep a continuity in your current session, so that if you're gaming or working (the two things this tablet's for) you're not plagued by an ever-changing screen that distracts you...
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Does anyone have a Prime that adjusts back down without turning the screen off?
I swear it's intentional and not a bug, although they should offer you the option of controlling its parameters. Just have to wait for the unlocker and some custom ROMage.
But seriously, I think it's to keep a continuity in your current session, so that if you're gaming or working (the two things this tablet's for) you're not plagued by an ever-changing screen that distracts you...
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I can see how the concept of continuity can be good. But in my case for example, switching the bedroom light on - followed by a certain increase of brightness on ATP - then switch the bedroom light off to go to bed - the persistent brightness (tested for >15mins) can be a little straining on the eyes. Although readjusting the brightness is as simple as 'clicking' the 'auto' icon on/off again so that the brightness comes down to appropriate level (it only takes 2seconds to do it) - I think this is defeating the purpose of having the auto-brightness setting in the first place.
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I can see how the concept of continuity can be good. But in my case for example, switching the bedroom light on - followed by a certain increase of brightness on ATP - then switch the bedroom light off to go to bed - the persistent brightness (tested for >15mins) can be a little straining on the eyes. Although readjusting the brightness is as simple as 'clicking' the 'auto' icon on/off again so that the brightness comes down to appropriate level (it only takes 2seconds to do it) - I think this is defeating the purpose of having the auto-brightness setting in the first place.
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Oh I whole-heartedly agree. Going from my living room anywhere else in the house causes blindness with auto brightness on. And it acts completely opposite on this device than all others I've touched that use the feature. And like you say, if it's "automatic brightness" then why would it not be totally automated?
I'm just saying there's definite reasoning and programming behind it, it's not just some bug per se.
Therefore, don't expect ASUS to do anything about it, it'll all be up to our wonderful dev's here; they'll say it's properly functioning even though it's bass ackwards from everything else in existence.
Its just too damn bright !! Mine seems to get stuck at higher levels and doesnt automatically dim, unless the change is quite dramatic (like dark room). I have to manually tick auto brighness off then on to make it work again.
I have tried using lux and it seems to be working perfectly so i am guessing its a software issue from LG side.
Anyone else having similar issues ?
Yea, it's too bright
I completely agree with you. Mine always seems to default to 61% which is too bright in normal light (45% is ideal for me). It would be nice if you could set the baseline "auto" brightness level and let the sensor adjust from there.
SHosp said:
I completely agree with you. Mine always seems to default to 61% which is too bright in normal light (45% is ideal for me). It would be nice if you could set the baseline "auto" brightness level and let the sensor adjust from there.
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Well i have done some research and seems like an app called ''Content adaptive backlight'' is the cause of issue. Seems like LG have managed to produce the same issue that plagued G2. I really hope they fix it in future patches.
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same here ... is there another way to fix it ? besides waiting ?
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I have compared G5 MM rom to my G3 and there seems to be no Content adaptive brightness app on my G3 and because of that there is no auto brightness issue on my G3.
I have done more research and there are quite a few latest phone (6p, S7 ) affected by this issue where either brightness is either too low or high.
Only solution is to either get a custom rom or get an update from carrier/manufacture.
I noticed this as well.. I am sure it will eventually get corrected via software.
Chiming in to say same issue here. Doesn't really bother me tho.
Same boat its too bright or dark and when battery saver kicks in you cant see the screen at all.
Agreed. Too bright, except in very low lighting - then too dim. Hopefully software update will fix this up.
also agree! Way to dim in dark room, haven't noticed to bright yet but then I am old and need the extra ummpphhh to see!!! lol
It would be nice if LG could add low and high limits to the auto-brightness.. I think that would fix the problem.
Does everyone use auto-brightness? Does it seem to help with battery life?
So the issue occurs since April and hasn't been fixed yet. I just received my G5 and have the same issue. It annoys me a lot and when I see that LG didn't fix it yet, I am wondering whether they ever will do that.
I have noticed it getting stuck, unchecking it and checking it again sorts it out for a while
Hello, recently i sent my phone to warranty because of serious screen burn in issues, they replaced my sceen, which had more light bleeding issues, but i wouldnt mind that, as the burn-ins were gone, but to my surprise, yesterday after about 3hrs of constant on screen texting in whatsapp, the burn-in started appearing on the new screen, i am seriously pissed off, i really like this phone overall with the features it offers and so on, but the quality control... Wtf LG.. I now have bought a phone which i should just send for warranty repairs after a period of time?
Just wanted to share my experience with you, i still have a gpad 8.3 thats is still rolling on the latest 7.1.1 and has no quality issues and a robust metal build whatsoever, but this is just annoying...
Im sorry to hear about your issues with g5. Its a great device, whats wrong with your screen? Light bleeding whad do this mean?
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...Just wanted to share my experience with you,..
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If you want to do something for us, try to use the search engine first until you start a new thread!
There are a lot of threads around here which has described screen ghosting on LG devices!!!
See here:
1.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/lg-g5-screen-ghosting-burn-problem-t3545769
2.) (German) ->http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/displayflecken-nach-langem-aktiv-sein.790992/page-3
3.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/panel-vs-panel-series-t3480270
4.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/help/ghost-images-screen-image-retention-t3395732
5.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/screen-ghosting-lg-g4-t3451879
YOU are not alone!
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If you want to do something for us, try to use the search engine first until you start a new thread!
There are a lot of threads around here which has described screen ghosting on LG devices!!!
See here:
1.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/help/lg-g5-screen-ghosting-burn-problem-t3545769
2.) (German) ->http://www.android-hilfe.de/thema/displayflecken-nach-langem-aktiv-sein.790992/page-3
3.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g5/how-to/panel-vs-panel-series-t3480270
4.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/tmobile-lg-v10/help/ghost-images-screen-image-retention-t3395732
5.) (English) ->https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/help/screen-ghosting-lg-g4-t3451879
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Dont you think i am aware of this? How does it help me? I have wrote ot in threads before and i write it again, this one was about the same thing happening even after warranty repair, and the cause is a faulty panel, i am sharing my warranty experience, i dont really understand why would you post these links? How is this helpful?
i think it would be interesting for all of us to know the period when it started to happen for the first time and then when exactly after the replacement?
I for myself got the screen replaced about 2 month ago having the screen burn issue as well. Phone IME starts with 604. Since the replacement no issue for me so far..but i am not so sure if it the problem is solved with that and the screen burn in starts again after a while again......
Gmobilize said:
Dont you think i am aware of this? How does it help me? I have wrote ot in threads before and i write it again, this one was about the same thing happening even after warranty repair, and the cause is a faulty panel, i am sharing my warranty experience, i dont really understand why would you post these links? How is this helpful?
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aking007 said:
i think it would be interesting for all of us to know the period when it started to happen for the first time and then when exactly after the replacement?
I for myself got the screen replaced about 2 month ago having the screen burn issue as well. Phone IME starts with 604. Since the replacement no issue for me so far..but i am not so sure if it the problem is solved with that and the screen burn in starts again after a while again......
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Its indeed interesting as it really seems to not appear at the beginning, and once it shows up it starts to get more noticable over time, for example as i said, it occured after heavy using whats app for about 3hrs most of the time with auto brightness sometimes hitting the highest levels, right now i can notice the burn in, but its not at levels where it would become disturbing, ill see how it goes, if it progresses and so on..
Gmobilize said:
Dont you think i am aware of this?
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No, it was not visible for me reading your post, that you have get all informations about LG display issue.
Gmobilize said:
i don't really understand why would you post these links
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i want to be sure, that you can see, that this is no individual case!
Gmobilize said:
How is this helpful?
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If you had read all of my linked threads, you should know...
...many people has this problem with different LG devices...
... it was recognized at LG G5 phones produced between march and jun. 2016 (see serial number starting with 604 up to 606)...
... there seems to be a new display without ghosting but with a little more power consumption recognized since serial number 609...
... it makes no difference witch country code your device was! all displays could be affected!
...that some users have installed "sFilter BlueLight" app to prevent this issue!
...as some users reports,it is not granted, that this issue never returns on changed displays because it seems to be a general fault...
Maybe that all this informations does not help to solve YOUR problem, but this is a forum for questions and answers ant i thought, that this informations could be helpful to know. But as it looks like,it seems that this will be for other users only!
So if you feel disturbed of me, feel free to set me to first position in top of your ignore list!
and at least: see my signature at 3.!
non-toxic said:
No, it was not visible for me reading your post, that you have get all informations about LG display issue.
i want to be sure, that you can see, that this is no individual case!
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If you had read all of my linked threads, you should know...
...many people has this problem with different LG devices...
... it was recognized at LG G5 phones produced between march and Jjund 2016 (see serial number starting with 604 up to 606)...
... there seems to be a new display without ghosting but with a little more power consumption recognized since serial number 609...
... it makes no difference witch country code your device was! all displays could be affected!
...that some users have installed "sFilter BlueLight" app to prevent this issue!
Maybe that all this informations does not help to solve YOUR problem, but this is a forum for questions and answers ant i thought, that this informations could be helpful to know. Maybe only for other ons only!
So if you feel disturbed of me, feel free to set me to first position in top of your ignore list!
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Sorry, but to me the reply seemed non-friendly, as it would be addressed to a rookie user, who hasnt done his research, maybe im wrong about your post...
But overall, yes i have seen all those threads, and unfortunatley, as i have mentioned in some other LCD display threads, the app could basically be a temp fix for the issue, when its not at a disturbing level, as its a cause of a faulty panel.
At this point where my panel has been already replaced, i cant really keep track of its model.
Gmobilize said:
Sorry, but to me the reply seemed non-friendly, as it would be addressed to a rookie user, who hasnt done his research, maybe im wrong about your post...
But overall, yes i have seen all those threads, and unfortunatley, as i have mentioned in some other LCD display threads, the app could basically be a temp fix for the issue, when its not at a disturbing level, as its a cause of a faulty panel.
At this point where my panel has been already replaced, i cant really keep track of its model.
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Okay so lets go through this together.
A burn-in only happens with amoleds as this is permanent. We have LCD panels so we have image retention which is non-permanent.
A LCD is a liquid crystal display. Means you have a certain state of the crystals. When you apply a voltage the crystals rearrange themselves and block light. This is why we need a background illumination. Anyway once you use it for a longer period with a semi-static or a static picture (like whatsapp typing bar, google maps info boxes, keyboards etc) the crystals start to shift in their relaxed form towards another state. Blue light is due to its short wavelength energy consuming -> high voltage applied -> faster image retention.
That's why blue light filters do work to some extent. (With cf lumen and root you can adjust to use less blue instead of having an overlay draining additional energy)
This liquid crystal thingie is dependent on a lot of different parameters, that's why some get it faster and some slower. My 1,5k$ thinkpad has the same issue with the navigation bar being a persisting image after 10h+ of browsing.
TLR
So this is actually not a warranty issue. LG also returned phones unrepaired as this is the negative side of a lcd and considered standard behaviour. Go for an AMOLED the next time as they can't suffer from this, but once you have image burn-in you will never get rid of it. So doesn't really make a difference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_persistence (helpful for that burn in issue which a lot of people seem to get wrong)
Cheers
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Okay so lets go through this together.
A burn-in only happens with amoleds as this is permanent. We have LCD panels so we have image retention which is non-permanent.
A LCD is a liquid crystal display. Means you have a certain state of the crystals. When you apply a voltage the crystals rearrange themselves and block light. This is why we need a background illumination. Anyway once you use it for a longer period with a semi-static or a static picture (like whatsapp typing bar, google maps info boxes, keyboards etc) the crystals start to shift in their relaxed form towards another state. Blue light is due to its short wavelength energy consuming -> high voltage applied -> faster image retention.
That's why blue light filters do work to some extent. (With cf lumen and root you can adjust to use less blue instead of having an overlay draining additional energy)
This liquid crystal thingie is dependent on a lot of different parameters, that's why some get it faster and some slower. My 1,5k$ thinkpad has the same issue with the navigation bar being a persisting image after 10h+ of browsing.
TLR
So this is actually not a warranty issue. LG also returned phones unrepaired as this is the negative side of a lcd and considered standard behaviour. Go for an AMOLED the next time as they can't suffer from this, but once you have image burn-in you will never get rid of it. So doesn't really make a difference.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_persistence (helpful for that burn in issue which a lot of people seem to get wrong)
Cheers
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Thanks for the interesting article on LCD artifacts, however, i wanted to say some things:
As my for my first panel, that got replaced, image retention was pretty hard, as when the phone got warmer, it became really disturbing and barely usable as the keyboard and status bar started to ghost on grey background apps such as xda, the only way was to let it cool down and wait till everything disappears, as soon as i started using my phone a bit longer, the problem resurfaced very quick. So it clearly wasnt a normal reaction. Just to add, no CF.lumen like apps were able to help back then.
My current replaced panel is showing only minor signs of this, it becomes more apparent on longer usage times with the same elements and the ghosting is barely visible with not so intense usage, so i hope that this wont eventually get stronger as before. As it would seem to be a natural usage reaction, i still consider this an issue however, cause none of my previous LCD phone had anything like it, not even my LG Gpad 8.3. So im gonna try to apply warranty again if needed, as repair services seem to be pretty helpful in my country at least, as long as they have spare panels in stock.
And about amoled, i think ill pass that for a while, i have seen enough samsung demo units in stores have serious homescreen burn-ins.
With LG G5 the quality really seems to be an issue, yes there maybe lucky people with good units and so, but overall it is pretty disappointing, as feature and hardware wise i really love this device.
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I see the so called expert stopped responding like a retard. I had the same problem I just lgup and flashed stock all over again about 4 times and it started to show improvements. As of now I got rid of the burnt images on my lcd
Can't we just enable always on display? Aren't there any hack to enable it?
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Battery will not be able to stand 1Hour at least i think
Come on you own smartwatch
Keep raising your hand every few minutes, it will stay on always then. Problem solved.
Mostafa Virusx said:
And if it's
Battery will not be able to stand 1Hour at least i think
Come on you own smartwatch
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No i think i will go for at least one day.. See other AMOLED watch from xiaomi.. they go for 7-10 days with always on display.. And compared to that mi band 4 can go for 1 day at least
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Keep raising your hand every few minutes, it will stay on always then. Problem solved.
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You know that's not the solution.. And this function doesn't work Everytime
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You know that's not the solution.. And this function doesn't work Everytime
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You know he was kidding, right?
AOD function must have support not only from the software, but also HW. In theory, you could enable AOD on Mi Band 4, but you'd risk AMOLED burn in and most probably very high power consumption. If you really must have this feature, buy a band/watch which supports it properly and out of the box.
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Can't we just enable always on display? Aren't there any hack to enable it?
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It should be possible theoretically.
The latest firmware (1.0.6.24) has option change the display duration (Auto screen off time). But, it only let's to choose between 5 to 10 seconds. So, hopefully, the firmware update can take care of increasing the time to longer period (infinite).
A very light watch face with minimum color (black and white) theme should take care of the quick battery drain.
I think, is cool to have this option.
raghu13uk said:
It should be possible theoretically.
The latest firmware (1.0.6.24) has option change the display duration (Auto screen off time). But, it only let's to choose between 5 to 10 seconds. So, hopefully, the firmware update can take care of increasing the time to longer period (infinite).
A very light watch face with minimum color (black and white) theme should take care of the quick battery drain.
I think, is cool to have this option.
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That's what i am thinking... It's possible actually although some are not agreeing with it..
That's nice that you think it, but I'm sure you would blame Xiaomi for adding this feature if it caused persistent image retention problem, desaturated colors over time and maybe some other HW defects due to prolonged use of OLED panel.
Yes, the burn-in could be a problem as well.
May be we can come up with some solution like the moving display (like the ones in old screensavers on CRT) or the one in Glitch watchface and UI (given below).
https://geekdoing.com/threads/glitch-ui-v83.1597/