Question Any one uses Advanced Charging Controller (ACC) + how native limiter works? - Asus Zenfone 9

Anyone had success with running ACC https://github.com/VR-25/acc with Zenfone 9 ? For me it does not stop charging (tried test with 3 methods). Or maybe someone uses any other stop charging method/app?
I know I can limit chaging to 80% with Asus ROM, but what I do not know, what happens next - once charging thershold is reached, does then phone get's power directly from charger not from battery? Because if it get's from battery, means phone is charging battery, every time it will drop 1%, which is bad.

According to someone in Asus forum, it indeed uses trickle charging:
Re: How battery care charging limitworks? What happens after charging will reach X%?
phone just stop pulling power from the wall, before its drop to 79% its start to charge again, u can monitor this behavior by using usb tester, its also known as trickle charging.
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which means still battery life decreases. Which means it still needs some root solution, to stop charging at all :/

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charge led not blinking when done

Hi,
Got my 101 yesterday and i charged it directly on the power adapter.
I charged it like 17hours but no blinking led?
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
My 70 will only blink if it is turned on while charging, otherwise it won't.
What do you mean, while it is charging or when it is done charging and turned on?
If i charge the 70 when it is turned off, it imediately turns itself on and stays on. When it has fully chrarged the led will flash. However if i put it on charge and it turns itself on, if i then turn it off and leave it charging the led never flashes when it is charged.
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
Thanks
I did discover that he only blink when turned on, just what you guys telling here.
Thanks for the reactions
bufflehead said:
Modern Li-Ion battery charge regimes are complex. They will charge until full then turn off until the charge falls below a certain level, then start charging again. So if you happen to look at your device at they wrong time it might not show fully charged because it is part way through the wait cycle. This is done to prolong battery life - it stops the battery from being cooked. You can bump charge a li-on battery to get more juice it it, but that shortens battery life considerably.
Also, it is possible that your battery meter need calibrating. Every 30 days or so let your device run right down before re-charging - this should re-calibrate the meter.
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Whats bump charge?
wimmetje said:
Hi,
It all runs well and i think it is charged enough, anybody got the same issue?
Greets
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Somewhat same issue, battery charge light NEVER blinked, had Archos 32 for 2 weeks on 2.0.71. The charge would never reach 100%, it would stay at 99% for hours, all day, just could not find that 100% mark and switch to status "charged". When I would wait at 99% for an hour or more, when unplugged, the meter would say 100% immediately after disconnecting it. Maybe it was cycling or doing something battery related, but I doubt it in light of upgrading to fw 2.1.2 and now it charges to 100% without an issue and the power led blinks. Looks like they fixed that bug, or at least it is fixed for me now.
Does anyone have trouble with the Archos 70 not charging at all? This has happened a few times now, I've put it on charge overnight and when I check in the morning the battery is at no charge.

Battery problem: Discharging while charging!

Okay so I've this problem where my battery discharges while charging!
I had this problem since wednesday that time I was on stock... So I thought flashing a custom ROM now as of now i'm on SonyStyle still the same problem,
let me elaborate my problem a bit more
-To monitor how much current is discharging n charging! -498 mA while discharging n -298 mA while charging it normally
-So next thing I tried is to charge it while being switched off, most of the times it wont charge n when it'll charge it'll reach some point n starts discharging! Discharging even when its off and plugged to the charger! BIZZARE isnt it?
-Now in order to put it on chrging i've to reboot it couple of times untill battery monitor widget shows +current... N when it reaches 100 it'll begin to discharge like it'll be empty in 1nhalf hour
-ALSO I'VE TURNED OFF ANYTHING THAT SUCKS BATTERY! AND I'M NOT USING MY DEVICE WHILE CHARGING! ALSO IT DISCHARGES WHILE BEING ON CHARGER IN A switched off state.
these things i've already tried
-Flashing custom ROM
-Putting my cell on powersave CPU governor
-undervolting
-charging using USB
-CUSTOMER CARE CENTRE only resets the software
I'M SO FRUSTRATED THAT I'LL BURN THIS CELL INTO ASHES! Anybody help me before I kill thislil fellow!
You might try resetting your battery stats on clockworkmod or xrecovery. Charge until 100% and let it discharge naturally to switch off, allow a few days of charge cycling and it should be ok.
Lipoly batteries dont trickle charge. If you leave your phone on charge for 8 hours it will just switch off the charger, discharge for awhile and then switch back on the charger. Most take 1 to 1.5 hours to charge, so if you leave it plugged in you will be charging/discharging about 6 times in that period. Lipoly have a limited number of charges before they diminish, usually about 500. So if you leave it plugged in you can reduce your battery life span considerably - otherwise it should last a good year and a half before it wears out.
Dont ever try to trickle charge, overcharge or manually discharge a lipoly battery as they have a tendancy to explode.
The good news is lipoly batteries are cheap to manufacture. You should be able to pick up a decent bst-38 (or substitute) on ebay/amazon for around 15-20 euros. Dont be hoodwinked into the 2000mAh batteries, most are fake. My 970mAh can last 2 days on Gintonic rom.
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I had a similar problem with the battery discharging whilst charging.
For me the problem turned out to be my USB cable becoming faulty. It would still transfer data when connected to a computer, but would get a similar problem to the one you describe when charging. Might not be the same problem for you though.
I am now experiencing this problem. I think it is my usb cable too. Will buy another 1 soon. It discharges then charges again when I pull out the cable and plug it in again.
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Well already tried wiping battery stats
heres what I've discovered till now
-The charge current drops as if the battery is at 91% but it isnt even close
-It is either the battery is sending wrong data to charger, or it is faulty
-Not able to explain how n why it discharges even a switched off state???
-Only solution I can think is a charging dock for BST-38
obsidian_eclipse said:
You might try resetting your battery stats on clockworkmod or xrecovery. Charge until 100% and let it discharge naturally to switch off, allow a few days of charge cycling and it should be ok.
Lipoly batteries dont trickle charge. If you leave your phone on charge for 8 hours it will just switch off the charger, discharge for awhile and then switch back on the charger. Most take 1 to 1.5 hours to charge, so if you leave it plugged in you will be charging/discharging about 6 times in that period. Lipoly have a limited number of charges before they diminish, usually about 500. So if you leave it plugged in you can reduce your battery life span considerably - otherwise it should last a good year and a half before it wears out.
Dont ever try to trickle charge, overcharge or manually discharge a lipoly battery as they have a tendancy to explode.
The good news is lipoly batteries are cheap to manufacture. You should be able to pick up a decent bst-38 (or substitute) on ebay/amazon for around 15-20 euros. Dont be hoodwinked into the 2000mAh batteries, most are fake. My 970mAh can last 2 days on Gintonic rom.
Sent from my U20i using Tapatalk
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If I leave my cell on charging for 8 hours, then after 8 hours my battery will be zero... It'll keep blinking the red light for hour or more... See thats a wicked problem...
happened to me also, had to use a better cable (don't use thin and/or long cables)
Yeah I tried with a Nokia made cable and its charging flawlessly! This is my first time with a Non-Nokia n so far the experience is not very good!
btw thanxxx a lot for your attention n concern!
- similar (identical) problem, tried similar resolutions (factory reset/sdcard/sim removing/different chargers/battery replacement)
- disassemble my phone... and found out, that micro usb connector replacement is unrealistic.
- watched charge/discharge/voltage/current/temperature process trough battery monitor widget (1 minute sampling)..
- re-calibrated battery many times
RESOLUTION : micro usb connector or connections in mobo is dead. I build charger with current meter. No matter, what says my phone about charging (pluged in - discharging)- any information displayed delays for minutes on phone. IF my external current meter says - "charging", than phone state is "CHARGING" independent from what phone is displaying at the moment. Moving usb charging connector in phone causes current to stop flying to phone or reducing current value. Phone still says "plugged in" and or "charging" on "discharging"...
Temporary resolution: little pushing/deformation on charging connector (male) and LED in charging chain, witch is displaying - charging or not. Every time connecting charger i'm looking on indicator LED and moving charge connector, till LED says "charging" and then no more any moves on phone.
Future resolution: contact-less charging trough inductive coupling

Charging Question

does anyone know if its possible to find out if the s3 is really charging or not? ive been plugged in and it's still discharging. I need to know if its hardware or software related. when plugged in it has a lightning on the battery and it has red led when display is off but its really slow on charging
anthony001 said:
does anyone know if its possible to find out if the s3 is really charging or not? ive been plugged in and it's still discharging. I need to know if its hardware or software related. when plugged in it has a lightning on the battery and it has red led when display is off but its really slow on charging
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same here!
anthony001 said:
does anyone know if its possible to find out if the s3 is really charging or not? ive been plugged in and it's still discharging. I need to know if its hardware or software related. when plugged in it has a lightning on the battery and it has red led when display is off but its really slow on charging
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The battery does not charge to 100 %, this is not a defect in the phone but rather a sort of internal protection so as to not damage the battery. Indeed, it happens many times to leave the phone connected to the charger much more time necezzario.
The battery by doing so you may receive a surplus of energy than necessary, and in the long run, deteriorate more quickly. Samsung has inserted inside the Galaxy S3 a limiter that operates in the following way: while the phone is charging, you download slightly of 2-3% for then recharge automatically up to 100 %. This process is repeated automatically from your phone until it is removed from the charger.
Use this app.for monitoring battery ; https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNjYzcxLmJtdyJd
If necessary make a battery calibration uses these applications ; https://play.google.com/store/search?q=calibration&c=apps
While plugged in go to settings/battery and see if it is ac charging or usb charging....I've had this problem with the new cable and plug, it only charges at usb rate, use my old S1 charger now, BlackBerry one worked for me as well
devid801 said:
The battery does not charge to 100 %, this is not a defect in the phone but rather a sort of internal protection so as to not damage the battery. Indeed, it happens many times to leave the phone connected to the charger much more time necezzario.
The battery by doing so you may receive a surplus of energy than necessary, and in the long run, deteriorate more quickly. Samsung has inserted inside the Galaxy S3 a limiter that operates in the following way: while the phone is charging, you download slightly of 2-3% for then recharge automatically up to 100 %. This process is repeated automatically from your phone until it is removed from the charger.
Use this app.for monitoring battery ; https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ch_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNjYzcxLmJtdyJd
If necessary make a battery calibration uses these applications ; https://play.google.com/store/search?q=calibration&c=apps
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Hmm, im not talking about when it charges at 100 % im talking about when it charges in mid ranges like 50 or 80. It shows charging but an hour passed but it didnt even increase to 2 percent
Are you on an original rom or a custom / leaked one?
Have you tried another charger or computer?
It may take some time to charge on slower chargers (the ones only outputting 0.5Amp) but it definitively should not be discharging when connected to a charger with the screen off.
Im on stock firmware. Using the wall outlet ti charge the phone

Charging Questions - someone test?

First I don't think anything is wrong with my device but just curious if anyone else noticed this.
1. Fully Powered off device
2. Plug in charger (little battery charging icon animates)
3. This is where it gets strange I let it get to 100% but didn't unplug it (left it plugged in all night like I usually do on all my devices) , next morning I check the charge and it showed 97%
so I assume the phone circuitry shuts off the charger after it's fully charged to prevent overheating or whatever, or the charger shuts off, strange why I got a 3% drain though with it completely off...
so far I have only tried with the official charger and cable, curious if anyone else had this issue.
besides for that the battery in this device seems good I can get about 1 day 1/2 moderate / heavy use out of it
Perhaps it's the boot animation etc?
Twotems said:
Perhaps it's the boot animation etc?
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I guess it could be if it runs in the background , it just was strange to me since my samsung tablet will always show 100% even if I leave it plugged in forever, maybe lithium-ion (samsung) and lithium-poly (xiaomi) have different charging rules like maybe you can't float charge lithium poly (just guessing)

Question forcing a charging protocol?

basically I have the s23 ultra, the 313 ace charger 45w . and a 5A /100w cable ..
past 3 days it says "super fast charging 2.0" and displays the blue circle. for the duration of the charge..
now 5 hours ago, I plug in and see the blue circle, and the super fast charging 2.0 but after about 15 seconds it displays the green circle and says " fast charging"
I unplug and replug .. same thing happens..
so my question to the L337 developers on the site, can you force the phone to quick charge 2.0 with an app? or some setting hidden in some secret dev window?
I know the hardware can handle the charge and I've changed zero settings in the phone so it's definitely a deep seeded software issue. I've cleared the cache , double checked basic toggles. I'm lost.
There may be nothing wrong.
Phone throttles down charging based on battery charge level. When battery gets above certain level it will no longer charge at full speed.
OnnoJ said:
There may be nothing wrong.
Phone throttles down charging based on battery charge level. When battery gets above certain level it will no longer charge at full speed.
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I started the charge at 20% .. so you're saying the phone decided to limit the charge to 15w because it was above what exactly? 21% ?
back to my original question.. phone starts at super fast charging 2.0 , and then 15 seconds later it throttles to "fast charging" .. is there a way to force the super fast charging 2.0 protocol because the software is whats limiting it.
Just get the original Samsung charger brick.
mittymak said:
I started the charge at 20% .. so you're saying the phone decided to limit the charge to 15w because it was above what exactly? 21% ?
back to my original question.. phone starts at super fast charging 2.0 , and then 15 seconds later it throttles to "fast charging" .. is there a way to force the super fast charging 2.0 protocol because the software is whats limiting it.
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You didn't report the charging levels, hence my 'may...'.
Anyway, 20% is too low.
I do not know the exact levels (did not conduct a thorough test), but at least at 70% with my samsung 65W charger (Galaxy Book2 360pro) and 100W cable there is no more Super Fast Charging 2.0. I have S918B/DS, CSC EUX, SFC is there at least below 50%, no software limitation there...
What is limiting your charging I can't tell (Charger, Cable, Phone SW/HW...?)

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