So as the others that got similar problems, I had layout problems when upgrading to windows mobile 6.
Device: HTC TyTN, English keyboard (exactly like on the official pics), Rogers Wireless (Canada), unlocked thanks to you guys!
ROM: Official WM6 French ROM from HTC
I recently bought an French HTC TyTN with Rogers (in Canada). I unlocked it and upgraded it to WM6 (official french ROM from HTC). Seeing it had an AZERTY keyboard, I switched it back to QWERTY using your precious advices. However I'm experiencing problems with a few keys and I wasn't able to find similar cases on XDA Devs and Google. Here are the misfits:
' (opt+z) = File explorer
& (opt+x) = Internet Explorer
Start menu = Nothing happens
Ok (on the keyboard only) = Pops up the Start menu
Tab = Acts as the Ok button
File explorer (opt+left on the keyboard) = Messaging
However every other button (including opt+ok and opt+tab) work just as it should. I tried many locales (french canadian, english us, english uk, english canadian) to no avail and I really need " ' " and "&" characters, please provide help quickly!
Thanks a lot,
Nico
And for those with my problem: keyboard layout tytn french canadian qwerty azerty wm6 upgrade
UPDATE:
Would getting the official ROM in english solve the problem? It seems like there is no documentation on a QWERTY french TyTN?
e: Inserted a question mark, woops. Still in need of an answer
Kinda need a lil' help there, thx!
Not sure, but you can try an official English or you can try a cooked French rom. Schaps has cooked these and you can get information (or ask your questions) on his threads & posts.
Double post, sorry (see below)
galaxys said:
Not sure, but you can try an official English or you can try a cooked French rom. Schaps has cooked these and you can get information (or ask your questions) on his threads & posts.
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And if I take the official English ROM, would I have to reinstall everything or can I use software to reinstall my stuff on it?
Like I said 'not sure', but I would think so for the english rom.
Yes, you would have to reinstall any additional programs, etc.
Yes, there are back up programs for your device; you can search Wiki for information on them.
Alright I'll try that before messing with my device. Maybe not right now, but I will, thanks!
Alright! Problem solved! I used the official english ROM from HTC. The cause of this problem was problably the fact that only Rogers TyTNs use french ROMs AND a Qwerty keyboard. Snce they got the phone 8 months after the rest of the world, we might not see any french WM6 roms with Qwerty support.
Thanks for your great support!
Posted from my TyTN using Opera, weee!
Congratulations! Glad it worked out for you and your device...
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Hello,
I received my Qtek 8500 recently and it has many T9 Languages, but no Portuguese. Can anyone help me install Portuguese T9 on it? Many thanks,
Alan
If you don't already tried, you can see http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56710
It's for tornado/faraday smartphones but maybe it's working also on the star trek.
Thanks. Unfortunately, I saw that yesterday and tried it but it did not work. Maybe we need the file extracted from the ROM of the Star Trek...
What about flashing the i-mate Smartflip WWE ROM on it ?
I have it and it has Portuguese T9...
Just my 2 cents.
Ciao
At the moment it is not possible to flash the iMate ROM to the Qtek because it is CID locked. But maybe you could give me the Portuguese files and I could try to install manually without changing the ROM. It is simple. Please add me to your MSN and we can work this out hopefully. My MSN is [email protected]. Looking forward to it. Thanks!
Alan
Help Needed
OK, I received the files from Mix (many thanks, man!), and tried to add the T9 Portuguese, but it is not working. I have it as available now, but when I input anything, nothing happens. The procedure I followed was the one posted by Ronswens. Maybe for the Qtek 8500 there is a different procedure. If anyone can help, please do. It will be much appreciated. Thanks,
Alan
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alanbr said:
OK, I received the files from Mix (many thanks, man!), and tried to add the T9 Portuguese, but it is not working. I have it as available now, but when I input anything, nothing happens. The procedure I followed was the one posted by Ronswens. Maybe for the Qtek 8500 there is a different procedure. If anyone can help, please do. It will be much appreciated. Thanks,
Alan
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Just a question: did you unlock your device, or is it still locked ?
I don't mean SIM locked, but application locked !!!
Please, have a look if you can move links within "\Windows\Start Menu" and its subdirectories...
Otherwise it would be anyway difficult...
And/or maybe there are some other references within the registry that could prevent you succeed...
Just my 2 cents...
Ciao (and good luck...).
Hi Mix,
Yes, I do have the phone application unlocked. I used HTC Registry Editor to change the value of those 2 keys and then I ran the SDA Application Unlock executable. So I believe it is fully application unlocked. Just for the sake of it, I tested moving the shortcuts from the Windows\Start menu as you suggested and I had no problems in doing it... So I believe we have to find out what else is necessary... But thanks again for your support! And congrats on the Fifa World Cup!
Alan
Michele,
I think I am closer now to the problem. I tested with Spanish and it worked. However, it does not work with Portuguese no matter what I do. But now we know that I am not making any silly mistakes on my side, and that the problem has nothing to do with my phone being locked, etc. All the languages that you sent to me seem to work, except Portuguese... It seems to me that the Portuguese files are somehow corrupted. Since you do have Portuguese T9 on your device, may I ask you to please try to use it and see if it is working? Let me know the results. Many thanks for your help!
Alan
alanbr , hi !!!
You are from Portugal right ?
Where did you buy your Qtek 8500 ? have you managed to fix the problem with T9 PT ?
And do you know if your QTEK 8500 allows firmware updates from QTEK ?
Thanks...
By the way can you leave me a PRIV MSG with your MSN ?
Thanks again.
alanbr said:
Michele,
... Since you do have Portuguese T9 on your device, may I ask you to please try to use it and see if it is working? Let me know the results. Many thanks for your help!
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Sorry for the delay, but YES, they do work on my Smartflip...
I did not know any word of Portuguese, but I tried to write "Quero" and "Buscar" and it perfectly reported those two words among some others which I did not recognise...
I suppose then it works... ;-)
Sorry giving you such bad news... but you asked for it...
Ciao
Help alanbr
Hi!,
Could you send me the spanish files and the process to install it (hotmail: [email protected])?.
I have the same problem.
Regards
Sorry for bumping an old thread up, but did anyone managed to properlly install the T9 files in Portuguese (Portugal) for the Qtek 8500?
Edit:
I fell stupid! When I was writing an SMS I pressed the * button and a T9 menu appeared where I could select the portuguese T9. There's no mention to this on the user manual (as many other features). You can even configure other T9 settings there and even add your own words manually.
T9 .cab files needed
Does anyone could provide me the T9 .cab file for this ? Could I use this file in my O2 Xda Stealth since I can not write SMS or anything from the keyboard (Physical pad) and I would like to do this.
Thanks
Hi there,
Has anyone reflashed the dopod rom on the German Trion? I was wondering how to get around the qwertz keypad? Is there some registry hack to let the rom know what type of hardware keyboard the device has?
Thanks in advance
Try this registry hack:
Code:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd]
"Locale"=0407
For more information read the wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
hi, can someone confirm if this hack is working.....i'm thinking of buying an XDA Trion with original german rom and obviously with QWERTZ keyboard layout.......i need an english so therefore the device will be flashed with the CHT9000 rom (english rom) that is available from the xda developers ftp site......thanks
I've just bought a Taiwanese Chinese CHT 9000. I am planning to flash it with the english ROM but I am not sure if this is safe yet. I've heard of it working properly but will prolly wait for a while.
I gave it a try on the German Trion and it does not work with the availiable English rom on this site. I think the ROM just does not support this mapping. Is there some lib/dll file that should exist on the german rom that should be copied?
ozziede said:
I gave it a try on the German Trion and it does not work with the availiable English rom on this site. I think the ROM just does not support this mapping. Is there some lib/dll file that should exist on the german rom that should be copied?
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what errors do you get?.......
I have a German O2 Trion with English ROM and had the same problem. The [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd] does NOT work. Here is the best fix I have found:
goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout'
The original value I had in mine was 132105.
Change this to 66567 and do a soft reset.
All of the Letters will now work as they are labeled on the keyboard and most of the special characters will also work. The only annoying issue now is that the windows key and tab key are shifted over.
If anyone has a 100% workaround, please post.
gmike said:
I have a German O2 Trion with English ROM and had the same problem. The [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd] does NOT work. Here is the best fix I have found:
goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout'
The original value I had in mine was 132105.
Change this to 66567 and do a soft reset.
All of the Letters will now work as they are labeled on the keyboard and most of the special characters will also work. The only annoying issue now is that the windows key and tab key are shifted over.
If anyone has a 100% workaround, please post.
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thanks for this very useful info......have u also tried using the AE Keyboard mapper program?
http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.php
give this a try and let me know how you go.....thanks
gmike said:
I have a German O2 Trion with English ROM and had the same problem. The [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd] does NOT work. Here is the best fix I have found:
goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout'
The original value I had in mine was 132105.
Change this to 66567 and do a soft reset.
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Can you update the wiki with this info? If it's useful for you, sure it will be for others!
Thanks
Please try 132103 (decimal) or 20407 (hexadecimal).
The default value of English ROM is 20409, and Chinese ROM is 20404 (both are in hex).
I guess the suitable value for German Hermes keyboard is 20407 (132103 in decimal), not 10407 (66567 in decimal). Probably Hermes use 20+country ID (409=WWE, 407=German, 404=Trad. Chinese, etc...) format for keyboard layout value.
gmike said:
I have a German O2 Trion with English ROM and had the same problem. The [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd] does NOT work. Here is the best fix I have found:
goto the following registry entry
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
There is a key called 'Layout'
The original value I had in mine was 132105.
Change this to 66567 and do a soft reset.
All of the Letters will now work as they are labeled on the keyboard and most of the special characters will also work. The only annoying issue now is that the windows key and tab key are shifted over.
If anyone has a 100% workaround, please post.
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It works!!!
Thanks gmike and kyunga,
Your solutions together worked.
Changing the
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
key to 132103 worked perfectly.
Every key and associated symbol comes out as exactly typed. The Windows and tab key also works.
And for the Aussie's who were looking to get the Trion for use down under the dopodo english rom works perfectly with the German Trion and with the extended rom settings if it doesn't detect the proper network it asks you what Asian country your in and set all the settings accordingly (I suppose Australia is now counted as an Asian country as now they are qualifying for the World Cup through the Asian group). For Australia it includes Telstra, Optus and Vodaphone - not sure about 3 though as I quickly skipped through it.
Re: It works!!!
ozziede said:
Thanks gmike and kyunga,
Your solutions together worked.
Changing the
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
key to 132103 worked perfectly.
Every key and associated symbol comes out as exactly typed. The Windows and tab key also works.
And for the Aussie's who were looking to get the Trion for use down under the dopodo english rom works perfectly with the German Trion and with the extended rom settings if it doesn't detect the proper network it asks you what Asian country your in and set all the settings accordingly (I suppose Australia is now counted as an Asian country as now they are qualifying for the World Cup through the Asian group). For Australia it includes Telstra, Optus and Vodaphone - not sure about 3 though as I quickly skipped through it.
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thanks ozziede, i will do this hack as soon as i get my Trion from Germany.
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irv777 said:
ozziede said:
Thanks gmike and kyunga,
Your solutions together worked.
Changing the
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Oem\Qwerty]
key to 132103 worked perfectly.
Every key and associated symbol comes out as exactly typed. The Windows and tab key also works.
And for the Aussie's who were looking to get the Trion for use down under the dopodo english rom works perfectly with the German Trion and with the extended rom settings if it doesn't detect the proper network it asks you what Asian country your in and set all the settings accordingly (I suppose Australia is now counted as an Asian country as now they are qualifying for the World Cup through the Asian group). For Australia it includes Telstra, Optus and Vodaphone - not sure about 3 though as I quickly skipped through it.
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thanks ozziede, i will do this hack as soon as i get my Trion from Germany.
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132103 Worked like a charm. Thank you!
just got my trion and the above registry keyboard hack works!!!!.....THANK YOU!!!....
English ROM on German unit
irv777 said:
just got my trion and the above registry keyboard hack works!!!!.....THANK YOU!!!....
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What English ROM did you use for the upgrade?
Thanks,
APL
ozziede said:
Hi there,
Has anyone reflashed the dopod rom on the German Trion? I was wondering how to get around the qwertz keypad? Is there some registry hack to let the rom know what type of hardware keyboard the device has?
Thanks in advance
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Hi,
Which English ROM version did you finally use to flash?
Thanks,
APL
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apl said:
irv777 said:
just got my trion and the above registry keyboard hack works!!!!.....THANK YOU!!!....
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What English ROM did you use for the upgrade?
Thanks,
APL
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all the available english rom on the wiki and the ftp site i have tested and used and they all work fine......
same with me. look at my signature. All works very well.
RonenB said:
same with me. look at my signature. All works very well.
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which rom did you find more stable, reliable and more responsive?..
sameone can give me the code for the WWE rom on an Italian keyboard...? thank's
Hi all,
I have a HTC Tytn with an Azerty keyboard and a french OS and I would like get updated but I'm wondering if I'm not running into trouble.
I assume that the keyboard type is stored in the ROM and would like to get the device in english (instead of french) and to keep my keyboard recognized as Azerty.
Is this possible?
Thanks in advance for your help
Please read the wiki and search before posting!
Upgrading FAQs, number 5:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_UpgradeFAQ
Sorry, not used to the forum and it changed a bit of style.
Thanks anyway
Hi all.
Just flashed my daughters buggy Orange ROM Hurricane to the Russian Qtek ROM found in this forum.
Can anyone tell me how to get it to display in English, if it is possible? Or do I need to flash to a different, English-only ROM? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
mackaby007 said:
Hi all.
Just flashed my daughters buggy Orange ROM Hurricane to the Russian Qtek ROM found in this forum.
Can anyone tell me how to get it to display in English, if it is possible? Or do I need to flash to a different, English-only ROM? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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No worries. Got it sorted!!
Could you explain to me in steps how you did it? Because I really would like to do this as well... Thnx!
Russian to English.
Sjraar said:
Could you explain to me in steps how you did it? Because I really would like to do this as well... Thnx!
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Hi Sjraar.
Sorry I misinformed you all by mistake. The Russian ROM works perfectly, but whilst I can change the language to English UK or English US via the Regional settings, everything becomes English (Menus etc) all text, except when you try to type a Note or SMS, then all fonts are in Russian.
Received SMS is in English, but I don't know how to change settings for the keboard/dialpad to be English input. I assume there must be somewhere in registry to change that, but i don't know where and what value to change.
Otherwise the ROM is perfectly stable and totally unbranded!
Anybody know what reg values to change? Any help will be appreciated plus it will give us all a clean, unbranded ROM in English!!
Meanwhile, does anyone still have a copy of the SDAII ROM? I've searched through the entire net (slight exaggeration!) but to no avail. Someone must have it or know of a download link that actually has it, and by that I don't mean the www.iris-crap link to Blue Angel ROM update.
Anyway, here's hoping.
PS. On the Russian ROM, all installed applications still read as English, actually everything is in English, except what you input/type yourself.
If anyone has a direct (working link) to the german ROM (SDAII), that would be better also as they use fonts more in line with the English ones, which would overcome the illegibility of Russian fonts in SMS or type/input.
Hope this helps.
There should be a way to turn it to English right? What if U turn local settings to English, and not just the language? Perhaps that would change it? I tryed it on my C550 (turning it to language English, and Local to Russian, then the date showed turned up in Russian... Maybe the other way arround it would do the same?
mackaby007 said:
Hi all.
Just flashed my daughters buggy Orange ROM Hurricane to the Russian Qtek ROM found in this forum.
Can anyone tell me how to get it to display in English, if it is possible? Or do I need to flash to a different, English-only ROM? Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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hi..qtek 8200(spv c550) english rom.(messages caracter russian)
http://www.smartturk.info/modules.php?name...opic&t=2677
sda2 rom english..
http://www.smartturk.info/modules.php?name...opic&t=2664
hmm, might look interesting Rafet, but I'm sorry to say I can't make a word out of what is been said on these pages...
Perhaps you could translate it for me/us? Thanks!
Yes, it does look interesting. It also looks like a Turkish version of the T-mobile ROM! Wandering if we'll experience the same problems of not being able to change the language with this ROM too. At least the Turkish fonts look closer to English than the Russian ones.
Oh yeah...changed all settings to English, but that hasn't affected the fonts when inputting data or receiving SMS's.
Still looking..but may give the Turkish ROM a go and will post my findings. Thanks to Rafet for the download links and Sjraar for your reply/intersest.
Eureka!!
rafet said:
hi..qtek 8200(spv c550) english rom.(messages caracter russian)
http://www.smartturk.info/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2677
sda2 rom english..
http://www.smartturk.info/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2664
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Thank you very much Rafet. Your link to the SDA II ROM worked and so does the ROM, which I am happy to report is "ENGLISH". All's well with the world again and my daughter loves me again.
The update/flash ran smoothly and quickly and whilst branded with T-mobile stuff, the ROM seems ok. Will report back when [email protected] been extensively tested. Thanks again.
Don't how I came to this idea, but when you placed the russian rom on your device, did you turn-on T9 input for sms? Don't know where I read it, but perhaps that was the problem...
Sjraar said:
Don't how I came to this idea, but when you placed the russian rom on your device, did you turn-on T9 input for sms? Don't know where I read it, but perhaps that was the problem...
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Hi again Sjraar. No I didn't initially but have tried it since flashing it with the ROM, but 'twas no use. It all remained in Russian.
I am however happy to report that the T-mobile ROM is much more stable than the previous Orange ROM that the device came with. No problems there at all.
My prophet is O2 XDA neo in German. I tried to change the language to English with the setting in regional setting as you said, but failed. nothing happened. are you sure that you just made some change in regional setting and then everything showed in english, including Menu?
Qtek ROM = No-go for me!
jackeyz said:
My prophet is O2 XDA neo in German. I tried to change the language to English with the setting in regional setting as you said, but failed. nothing happened. are you sure that you just made some change in regional setting and then everything showed in english, including Menu?
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Yes jackeyz. All i did was go into regional settings and changed any and every option that related to English UK and the menus and allmost everything else ended up in English. However, as I stated previously, anything you would type/input into the phone would result in Russian which I can't read and any incoming texts/SMS were also appearing in Russian, so I gave up after searching for answers and coming up empty.
Like i said, the T-mobile ROM works perfectly and since having flashed it, my daughter has reported no problems at all. Hope this helps a little, but the Qtek ROM was a no-go for me.
Keyboard Language vs. Display Language
Gents, thanks for your suggestions - you've helped me to solve the issue I was fighting with for 2 evenings on my HTC Diamond.
Assuming that English is available on all devices "by default", try the below options (good luck):
a/ Initial language installation (e.g. Russian) => Russian Keyboard
- irrespective of Regional Settings change, this setting allows to retain special local characters/keyboard
- keyboard can be changed between Russian <-> English upon activation (e.g. during writing SMS)
- this set-up doesn't seem to impact Regional Settings (display language)
b/ Change of Regional Settings into English - Keyboard, Location, Language
c/ under Settings -> Personal -> Input Method -> Options, turn off “System Localization" – this setting seems to block activation of English Display and to revert Regional Settings into the Local Language, irrespective of any other changes to the settings
d/ upon synchronization with PC, suggest maintenance of the same Regional Settings
Dear all,
Does anyone have 838Pro HK English ROM.
I just flashed an English ROM into my Chinese 838Pro.
But found out when using the keyboard, the symbols are located differently.
Many thanks
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
please read the wiki before posting these questions.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
you can find the available original shipped roms here on the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
you can also tweak the registry to use the chinese keyboard with an english rom. read "Restore local language support for sliding keyboard after upgrade to a different language ROM" section on this page. i beieve this is what you are looking for.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry
Re : 838 Pro HK English ROM
Dear all,
i m able to check the keyboard registry.
Thank you all for your help.
Previously I thought it was the ROM problem.
Again, thanks a lot.