http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/pos...uces-tiny-flash-drive-for-mobile-devices.html
If you look at the specs, it will certainly fit. We'll have to wait a little longer before they get it up to at lest 8GB (max size eventually will be 16GB, currently it will only come in 2GB and 4GB sizes). PATA interface (SATA in the future), so an interface between it and the Athena will be necessary.
that looks like a go, now it is not a question of will it fit but rather how do we get it and hook it up
Yup. I forget the type of connection that the Athena has, can someone confirm? Then we just need to find a converter that will fit in the rest of the open space left by the old HD.
techntrek said:
Yup. I forget the type of connection that the Athena has, can someone confirm? Then we just need to find a converter that will fit in the rest of the open space left by the old HD.
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PATA ZIF
IIRC
It will be fantastic if anyone can swap the hard disk. It should shed some weight and improve battery life.
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It will be fantastic if anyone can swap the hard disk. It should shed some weight and improve battery life.
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I am not sure, but I have read somewere, that vueflo sensor is ither in the interface or in the micro drive. It actualy has to roles.
1 - tries to prevent the drive to crash while Athena fells down.
2 - sends signals to vueflo app.
I am not sure if this is true, but if... then we have a problem.
Wouldnt be a problem for me, I dont use viewflo. It feels like a marketing gimmick not quite ready for production. Maybe others have better results.
Huh, so we may have a direct pata to pata connection... another piece that fits. Pun intended. Maybe that would leave room for a vibrate feature, something the Athena could use!
Myson is fascinated with Vueflo, but I don't like it at all, and have always regarded it as a nuisance.
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Myson is fascinated with Vueflo, but I don't like it at all, and have always regarded it as a nuisance.
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if used properly when only need to scroll and turned off when not i actually love it. great to show off the iphone isnt only phone with all those fancy sensors and stuff. the athena project is trying to make that orientation app that uses vueflo to roate screen so it might be nice to hold onto it. once that app is done we will have more info on vueflo and might be able to use it for other things.
I'm neutral on Vueflo. I always disable it when I use Opera on rare occasions. Just don't let it gets in the way when considering using SSD from Intel.
I would like to see the motion sensors used to launch apps/macros (shake left twice to launch PocketStella, down twice for wmWifiRouter, down 3 times for screen brightness...), but loosing that functionality to gain a larger SSD would be a no-brainer.
Especially if we could then fit in a vibrate motor. As for controlling vibrate, maybe the unused viewflow lines would be useful, unless there is another controllable output somewhere. Find a pin with direct battery access to drive the motor through a relay, then control the relay with the viewflo lines (assuming one of them is an output) or another control line. Then build a driver that would monitor if the phone was ringing and trigger the vibrate. I know, far-away dreams...
So the big question is, with the new X7510 16Gb flash drive, who makes THAT unit?
The X7510 still has vueflo, so perhaps the flash drive does as well.
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So the big question is, with the new X7510 16Gb flash drive, who makes THAT unit?
The X7510 still has vueflo, so perhaps the flash drive does as well.
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From what I have heard the 16GB of flash in the x7510 is part of the motherboard.
Transcend SSD 1" 16GB
Transcend as roll out an 16GO SSD 1" whith the same size and same interface of the original 8GB microdrive
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Here's something useful. I recently bought a Project-a-Phone ICD-5000 device that lets you display your phone screen on a computer.
It is a great way to show mobile applications or content to a group, and it is the easiest way I've found to make screen shots and record basic videos of a phone screen. It sells for $395 from the website (http://www.projectaphone.com).
Very nice!!
Have you tried some software like pocket controller or similar? It's easier
and just a little bit cheaper too...
Interesting...
ilion said:
Have you tried some software like pocket controller or similar? It's easier
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Yes, but it requires a PC to be present as well... The above solution does not, you just need this and a projector. A bit of a shame though that it isn't more portable (it looks quite big to carry with you).
Of course, it might become obsolete as more and more projectors start supporting bluetooth (you can send a ppt or jpg sequence to them, but this doesn't help when you want to show the phone interface or so).
Too bad though that not more devices support video in/out.
Jörg
Hi All,
All the specs for the Athena state that vibrating alert is supported. However, I can find no way of switching this on. The Universal has a vibrating option in the volume control, but not the Athena. Are the specs wrong?
AMoosa said:
Hi All,
All the specs for the Athena state that vibrating alert is supported. However, I can find no way of switching this on. The Universal has a vibrating option in the volume control, but not the Athena. Are the specs wrong?
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I don't think that there is vibrate functionality on the Athena. The specs I've seen don't have this as a feature. Maybe the site you're reading it from has it wrong?
AMoosa said:
Hi All,
All the specs for the Athena state that vibrating alert is supported. However, I can find no way of switching this on. The Universal has a vibrating option in the volume control, but not the Athena. Are the specs wrong?
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First - please post in the correct place (Athena\Athena for this one) - this thread is for WM6 issues
As to vibrating, sonme sites just got this wrong. The Athena has a spinning hard drive in it - vibration would not be good!
Not to mention the bloody tablet side would probably fall down if it were shook that much!
apd said:
First - please post in the correct place (Athena\Athena for this one) - this thread is for WM6 issues
As to vibrating, sonme sites just got this wrong. The Athena has a spinning hard drive in it - vibration would not be good!
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That is incorrect! The Athena has a USB flash drive in it and NOT a mechanical (i.e. "spinning") hard drive.
The Athena does not have the vibrating alert feature.
Hope this helps.........Later
Wrong yet again!!!!
The Athena has a real mechanical/spinning HD in it.
Its an 8GB Microdrive from Hitachi. IT IS NOT A SOLID STATE DEVICE...
It uses a PATA ZIF connector (Same interface Protocol as an older desktop HD, but different connector) not USB...
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Wrong yet again!!!!
The Athena has a real mechanical/spinning HD in it.
Its an 8GB Microdrive from Hitachi. IT IS NOT A SOLID STATE DEVICE...
It uses a PATA ZIF connector (Same interface Protocol as an older desktop HD, but different connector) not USB...
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You got there before I could. There is a suggesiton that some later models have / will abandone the spinning microdive for solid state memory.
BTW if you play music from the MD but turn the volume off, you can even hear it spinning if you put the unit to your ear
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Not to mention the bloody tablet side would probably fall down if it were shook that much!
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LOL - never thought of that
Hello, I love the HD2 however it is just to expansive for nearly 500 € - I would rather buy another Notebook
An used TG01 with one year warranty costs at ebay only 160 - 190 €!
I think that is a great Price - now my question - would you guys say that the TG01 is (with the new ROMs) a good phone by now? Or are there still problems with the phone in your opinion?
I want to use that phone every day as Mp3-Player (the size doesn't matter to me), Video-Player, Internet Browsing, "Textmaker" (like MS Word) and to use Pleco (chinese learn Program).
(For example what disappointed me is the fact that there is no 3,5mm jack for my Headphone because I would use the Phone as my daily MP3 Player. I have a good blue-tooth stereo-headset with 3,5mm jack but I prefer to listen music without headset or adapter.)
Its getting there, for the prices its possible to buy them for its a bargain.
Yes being able to use custom roms is great and does change the devices prospects and usability, the things the TG01 does not have, radio, compass, multitouch and of coarse, a 3.5mm socket on the phone itself, flash for the camera.
I like my TG01....
I'll be honest, I like my TG01. I have SPB Mobile shell 3.5.3 plus MSkip Pro Elegance loaded, TomTom 7.9, Opera 10 (best ever), MyPlayer, Office Mobile 10 a ton of other programs plus games like Xtrakt2, Experiment 13. and still memory left. What more could I want! Well, a battery that lasts more than 4 hours when you use the phone would be helpful!!! If you want just a phone, buy a basic Nokia!! If you want something to play with, the TG01 ticks most boxes..
Forgot to mention, Bluetooth headphones are a must - I have the motorola's and they are great.
Hi .....
When you get this one cheap - it´s maybe a deal - when you can live with it´s faults. With the custom ROM´s the situation is getting better (at least compared to the german o2-ROM) ...
But it´s still ...
- missing a real 3,5 mm headphone connector
- the camera quality isn´t very good (missing at least a flash)
- the accu drains really fast when you use wireless connections (WiFi, BT or 3G), usually i charge twice a day and I don´t think I use it excessive.
- is a little short on memory (my opinion)
- horrible performance (with the german o2-ROM - my old Elfin was faster. At least sometimes)
It still has it´s good sides (that were the only things I saw when I got it):
- it´s really thin - you can put it in your pocket and forget it
- the display is great (big & good resolution)
- 1 GHz CPU
- ...
I wouldn´t buy this thing a second time, but now I have it, I use it and hope the cooks make this device more useful (at this time I use ffboy´s 6.5.5 ROM with SPB Mobile Shell and it works good).
If you like tweaking get a TG01 ... but I won´t get it a second time. Toshiba missed a chance to make a real good phone. I don´t know if they learned anything for the TG02 or the other new models - but I won´t give them another chance
After 10 month with a TG01 , this is my opinion:
No one say nothing about USB Host.. TG has it , HD2 DON'T. and it's very very useful. You can read USB pen drives and card readers anyway, connect game pads, mouses, keyboards, barcode readers, portable hard disk!....
Before the official Toshiba update to 6.5, this phone had a dangerous problem: SD card corruption. Since them, no problem regarding SD integrity. Very very safe
Now the TG01 is usefull, powerfull, and FAST!! I use it every day for business and leisure and it's awesome.
I have more than one hundred apps and no problem.
Known Cons:
Battery life (but I always carry a fresh battery with me)
No Flash ( not a big problem for me)
SD card placement (you have to remove battery to change the SD card) odd, isn't? but true. As results, most people never extracts SD and they use USB host or internet for file interchange instead
3,5mm headphones (I use bluetooth headphones)
In two words, it's the best device that you can buy under 300€, and now with the new ROMs ( and that's just the beginning) the possibilities are infinite
Agreed there has been a MASSIVE improvement with the roms.
I love the size. Beautiful 4.3" screen. I had to switch to Garmin GPS from TomTom but only because i don't want to deal with using GPS Gate software.
It uses GPD port, instead of a COM port for GPS communications.
Anyway, I'd recommend it as an awesome value. An excellent compromise if you don't want to spend the money and get an HD2.
Thanks for the many replies!
At the moment I am using the HTC x7500 and I think the TG01 could be a good replacement. For the accu problem I am using since 2 years an Just Mobile external battery with 5V 1A output and 4400mAh - it is handy and also charges my bluetooth headset and my "normal" phone very fast. It should be able to charge the TG01 up to 3 times. I'd recommend it to any one.
What is your favorite ROM? Is there by now a german ROM that works well?
As a user of both TG01 and HD2 i can tell you is relay about design, if you like TG01's design you can get a phone just as good as HD2 for a great price.
Maybe i have been lucky with my TG01 but didn't relay have any issues with it, sure sound is a little different then HTC phones but if you don't put speaker to max is fine.
GPS work just fine for me, the trick may be to have as much RAM free as possible or gps signal lost and have to reset (or so i read).
Audio cable HAS a 3.5 jack but you still have to plug it to usb connector and connector is straight not L shape so not very nice in pocket.
HD2 vs TG01
- HD2 4.3" vs TG01 4.1"
- HD2 448(576) MB RAM vs TG01 256MB
- HD2 3.5 at bottom vs TG01 3.5 mm jack on usb cable plugged to left side
- HD2 smaller size
- HD2 5MP camera with focus and 2 led flash vs TG01 3MP low quality and bad soft
- HD2 has compass
- HD2 capacitive glass screen vs TG01 scratch prone resistive
TG01 vs HD2
- Resistive touchscreen, more precise and works with stylus
- USB host to connect gamepad, mouse, keyboard
- support In Call Recording
- slimmer
- lighter
- small(compared to HD2) XDA community but more friendly and willing to help.
TG01's screen is by a small margin brighter and more vivid at max background light but with light sensor on you will never notice it.
HD2 has better software.
TG01's Malaysia original ROM has SPB mobile shell 3 out of the box witch should work with Sence la Révolution V2 theme (yet to test).
In conclusion TG01 is a good phone for the money (actually beast deal) and by price/features it wins. Another close one is Acer Liquid if you digg android or Acer S200 if WiMo is a requirement.
Also you may want to compare TG01's used price with price of a used HD2 not a new one (i payed ~360€ for HD2 and ~220€ for TG01).
TG01 can manage HD video on mpeg 4 and Divx better than any other device tested for me before. It's a pity that it has not TV out (my former one had this feature) I miss this possibility (perhaps the next one?)
By the way the HTC doesn't have TV out neither
Dodge0069 said:
I love the size. Beautiful 4.3" screen.
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cedesmith said:
- HD2 4.3" vs TG01 4.1"
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now I am confused - what size is our screen? 4.3 or 4.1?
http://pdadb.net/m/
Tg01 4,1"
HD2 4,3"
Nice day
Yippee! Just made a good deal on ebay ... at least I think/hope so
Got an 9 month used TG01 + silicon case (ok that one is pretty cheap) + Richter car suction mount + 1300mah extra battery (intern) for 186€ : )
I am happy
Hopefully I can sell it in one or two years still for more than 100€ and buy an used HD2 for same price LOL
If I think about the loss in value from phones above 500€ (recommended retail price) in general - in just one year - I get headaches.
I personally like the HD2 more. I had/have good experiences with HTC and believe they build there phones in better quality than Toshiba, the perceived value is much higher using HTC Phones.
I hope Palm will made an HD2 soon, I tried there new OS/Phone and I love it! It is so quick and native to use, even with low processor ... and task changes are incredible. Just the phone is ... gosh ...
TG01 is 4.1", check the specifications on Toshiba's page.
HD2 is 4.3" and in spite of that is is smaller in size.
Sorry, not trying to hijack, just needed to check up on this:
Before the official Toshiba update to 6.5, this phone had a dangerous problem: SD card corruption. Since them, no problem regarding SD integrity. Very very safe
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That's strange, because a few days ago, my TG01 crashed, so I did a hard reset (presume that's a hard reset?) (held down off for 11 seconds anyway) and when it loaded back up, the screen was frozen everytime and there was nothing that I could do. I only managed to get it working again when I removed the SD card (manufactured by Toshiba) so figured the card is now corrupt and I can no longer get access to my data and have to buy a new card. But you say this can happen before the WM 6.5 update?The phone came preinstalled with WM6.5 though so perhaps the problem is Toshiba's cheap SD Card? I don't understand it otherwise.
SD cards are not very persistent. That is why prof. photographers are using CF cards. It can happen that a SD card is corrupt after one day or in 4 years, the chances are higher than with most other memory flash card, but all flash memory cards have that disadvantage. I do not think this is due to TG01 just bad luck.
i'm using novembre5's rom.. i've found them to be great for freeing up ram, and very stable.
And YES, he does have a German ROM (scroll down in first post for link... i thought i should link you to the description, instead of just the link)
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Sorry, not trying to hijack, just needed to check up on this:
That's strange, because a few days ago, my TG01 crashed, so I did a hard reset (presume that's a hard reset?) (held down off for 11 seconds anyway) ..........
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I think what you did was actually a soft reset - basically powering off and then on again. To hard reset you either need to use 'Master Clear' in Settings or else Power Off and then hold down the Camera and Vol Up buttons while Powering Up again. Release the Power button when the green LED lights but keep holding the other two. Then follow the on-screen instructions to complete the hard reset.
Sounds like it 'should' work but various reports on the internet, including the official apple site, shows that maybe it doesn't.
Anyone has one?
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Sounds like it 'should' work but various reports on the internet, including the official apple site, shows that maybe it doesn't.
Anyone has one?
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Well, thought I'd help with my own thread.
I bought one. Yes it's expensive, but not more expensive than 'foldable' bt keyboards that I tried and unfortunately don't work (as in stuck keys, shoddy fragile designs, etc).
It's VERY SMALL - which is great. The box it comes in is VERY SLIM - doubles up as a carrying case which makes it even more convenient.
The quality is excellent - as you would expect from Apple. It's using AA batteries (comes shipped with them in fact) which a major plus as anyone who travelled to remote places without mains sockets will tell you.
Downside: it's never been intended to work with an Android phone. I have it paired alongside a logitech bt mouse, and yes - IT WORKS - but it also randomly FCs the settings screens. It has NO MAPPING FOR ANDROID - so all function keys are rendered useless. There is an F1 that maps to 'menu' and escape seems random. That's it.
As far as I can tell - no one has come up with a mapping file for it. You cannot map shortcuts to actions on the phone. So no, you WONT be playing nova2 with a WASD setup. You won't even have a working shift key, which is very annoying.
Conclusion:
It's expensive, and it doesn't work so great. Yet, I still can recommend this purchase because 1) other keyboards wouldn't fare better. 2) Chat becomes possible. Word document become possible. When typing mails, forums posts and what not it still trounces the onscreen keyboard.
My Cheapo EBay keyboard also suffers from the lack of a shift key. In my book this makes it all but unusable
unles u r nto txt spk an dont uze punkuashun r commaz r antin like dat, then it's not for you
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Well, thought I'd help with my own thread.
I bought one. Yes it's expensive, but not more expensive than 'foldable' bt keyboards that I tried and unfortunately don't work (as in stuck keys, shoddy fragile designs, etc).
It's VERY SMALL - which is great. The box it comes in is VERY SLIM - doubles up as a carrying case which makes it even more convenient.
The quality is excellent - as you would expect from Apple. It's using AA batteries (comes shipped with them in fact) which a major plus as anyone who travelled to remote places without mains sockets will tell you.
Downside: it's never been intended to work with an Android phone. I have it paired alongside a logitech bt mouse, and yes - IT WORKS - but it also randomly FCs the settings screens. It has NO MAPPING FOR ANDROID - so all function keys are rendered useless. There is an F1 that maps to 'menu' and escape seems random. That's it.
As far as I can tell - no one has come up with a mapping file for it. You cannot map shortcuts to actions on the phone. So no, you WONT be playing nova2 with a WASD setup. You won't even have a working shift key, which is very annoying.
Conclusion:
It's expensive, and it doesn't work so great. Yet, I still can recommend this purchase because 1) other keyboards wouldn't fare better. 2) Chat becomes possible. Word document become possible. When typing mails, forums posts and what not it still trounces the onscreen keyboard.
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I assumed its the A1314 you're talking about?
I've installed a Parrot Asteroid (digital media head unit with hands free calling) in my wife's VW Passat and think it might be one of the best purchases I've made this year. Install on the Passat (2001.5) was almost plug and play. The only change I had to make was switching Battery and ACC on harness. The antenna adapter (unpowered) is a standard item and was available from a local source.
With CM9 (nightly 0508 currently) USB and Bluetooth tethering work.
Contacts are shared with the Asteroid and voice dialing is accurate (the Parrot seems to grok what I am saying).
Music selection (media on SDHC card in Parrot) via voice is failrly accurate but I have noticed a few inaccurate responses.
Hands-free calling is crystal clear and the music quality is awesome.
Some have reported buggy or defective units, but I have had no trouble with it over the last week with my I777. We'll see what happens with my wife's iPhone...
I am considering same setup into my 2004 Passat. Thanks for posting the picture, that certainly clears my concerns about how does it look in the car as the console is same as yours.
How is sound compared to original VW radio you had before?
Do you mind if I ask you to share with us what components went into your install beside of course the Asteroid? Especially what adapter for the wiring harness you used.
I am using (primarily) Galaxy Nexus on CM9, so I'm pretty confident hooking the Asteroid to the phone shouldn't be a problem. Thanks in advance!
Edit: forgot to ask about button backlight - from what I see on the Internet it seems to be white, is it adjustable so it can be made to match the OEM backlight on the Passat (red)?
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I am considering same setup into my 2004 Passat. Thanks for posting the picture, that certainly clears my concerns about how does it look in the car as the console is same as yours.
How is sound compared to original VW radio you had before?
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In my opinion (these things being subjective), the sound is excellent. Like most Android devices, the Asteroid has a built in equalizer and other sound tweaks. Much better than stock.
Do you mind if I ask you to share with us what components went into your install beside of course the Asteroid? Especially what adapter for the wiring harness you used.
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I believe all B5.5 Passats use a ISO connector for the stock stereo. The included Parrot wiring harness adapter works out of the box. I only had to flip Battery and Switched Power (ACC). The Parrot adapter is designed to allow quick changes to these leads and this is documented in the included instructions. The only thing I had to buy was the antenna adapter. I picked that up for about $15 US. I used the unpowered version.
I am using (primarily) Galaxy Nexus on CM9, so I'm pretty confident hooking the Asteroid to the phone shouldn't be a problem. Thanks in advance!
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CM9 works quite nicely with the Parrot with one caveat. Bluetooth audio was great (both music and hands free calling). No problems with pairing so far. I tried connecting my SGS2 USB storage to the Parrot but it is not recognizing the SGS2 mass storage (micro SD card). This is not a show stopper for me as I have a 32GB SDHC card installed in the Asteroid.
Edit: forgot to ask about button backlight - from what I see on the Internet it seems to be white, is it adjustable so it can be made to match the OEM backlight on the Passat (red)?
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No such luck from what I have seen. You have have a choice of white, white, or white. You can adjust the intensity of control backlight and LCD backlight for 'Day' and 'Night' modes. 'Day' and 'Night' modes are toggled by a long press on the 'Parrot' button.
The Asteroid is not perfect but it seems to be the only device of its kind at the moment. I am surprised that more car stereo companies are not leveraging Android into their equipment lineup. Both OEM and aftermarket vendors seem to be utterly clueless when it comes to emerging technologies. Who uses CD (or for that matter DVD's) anymore?
When we bought our Passat I was shocked and appalled that the head unit had a CASSETTE deck! There was a CD changer in the trunk but that meant pulling over to change CD's. Clueless, utterly clueless...
In any case, good luck. The install is pretty easy. Do some research on some of the issues some seem to experience with the Asteroid. I have not seen any major problems on firmware 1.5 as yet but your mileage may vary.
*Edit: One other thing -- the Asteroid does not fit flush with the dash like the stock head unit. It sticks out approximately 1/4 inch. Aside from doing major work to modify the dash, I could not think of any way to make the Parrot fit flush. It does not bother me, but it may pose aesthetic issues for you. I actually have grown to like it. It makes finding controls easy without taking my eyes off the road.
Oh -- and one last thing. This 38 second video is priceless for removing the stock head unit.
http://youtu.be/KNSYBSGzUuQ
One last edit -- here is the antenna adapter. $7 through Amazon.
http://goo.gl/39rIO
Thanks a bunch!! So your 2001.5 came with the singe DIN unit. B5.5's 2002 onward ship with double DIN unit, so I would need to find a tray to place in (and fill up the gap) which will be very handy as I could keep the phone (or other junk in there. I've heard Parrot is coming up with a double din unit with slightly extended functionality: http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/08/parrot-asteroid-ck-asteroid-nav-asteroid-2din-infotainment-sys/. They mention late 2012 availability, wondering if I want to hold my horses for that one. Since it doesn't have physical buttons to require backlight, there won't be an issue with the look, but I like the buttons and especially the rotary ones, so this (for me) is as disadvantage as much as advantage. And probably the cost will double. Though integrated Google maps navigation would be terrific! Decisions, decisions...!
Yeah. The stock unit was single DIN. I believe you can buy the pocket if you have a double DIN OEM head unit and want to install a single DIN.
I like having physical controls -- perhaps I am getting old. The lack of apps does not particularly distress me.
I'd like to use the Parrot UNIKA steering controls interface but it does not look like B5.5 Passat is supported yet.
By the way, I'm listening to one of your (Canadian) exports today -- a band by the name of Elliott Brood from Toronto. Not bad for Canadian hacks. ;-)
http://www.elliottbrood.ca/
All the best,
Edward