Hi all,
I see a lot of familiar/famous faces here allready.
Would be good to know which Devs are porting over to the Raphael.
May also help with Development work if we have a list of Developers that will be here from the beginning.
So far I believe we have
Mamaich
Bepe
Olipro
CMonex
JJ
Dutty
Laurentius
myself
Who else will be joining us?
Cheers,
Beasty
I'll be too.
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I'll be too.
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Count me in sir.
Heee ... Beasty, yes you can count me in!
I'm looking forward to Rapheal!
Regards,
Leo
Looks like the old Universal team is back together
Myself included!
You can count me in for any help with ROM testing - my upgrade is due in 4 weeks and counting...
Well whenever this comes to ATT I'll compile another thread devoted to tweaking and removing all of the random crap that is bound to come with the ATT version...
Upgrade or no upgrade available on my contract, I'm getting this phone (but I can wait for a non-front camera version for about $200 less than the $904 price it's at right now.)
I'm certainly ready to jump on the Raphael bandwagon, but the details for the 3G radio for us yankees are still questionable. Until I see what the US version is, I'm not getting really excited about it. Other than a RAM/ROM/Processor upgrade, there isn't much of a gain. Also, until this thing gets in the hands of some XDA users, we won't know if they made a similar mistake as they did with the Kaiser in terms of drivers and hardware implementation.
HTC Omni with Android - yes. Another rehash of the Wizard, meh.
-Mc
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I'm certainly ready to jump on the Raphael bandwagon, but the details for the 3G radio for us yankees are still questionable. Until I see what the US version is, I'm not getting really excited about it. Other than a RAM/ROM/Processor upgrade, there isn't much of a gain. Also, until this thing gets in the hands of some XDA users, we won't know if they made a similar mistake as they did with the Kaiser in terms of drivers and hardware implementation.
HTC Omni with Android - yes. Another rehash of the Wizard, meh.
-Mc
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Pretty sure that TouchFlo 3D needs D3D acceleration to work?? The GFX drivers situation should be almost identical to the diamond, so best to take a gander at the diamond forum and see if any issues are apparent?
You're absolutely correct.
But let us not forget that HTC's devices from years ago perform better graphically then the Kaiser. Who'd have ever thought THAT would happen (especially considering the vast technological improvements)?!?!
I have been lurking on the Diamond forums keeping an eye on how things play out. We still haven't seen a US-based Diamond variant yet.
-Mc
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You're absolutely correct.
But let us not forget that HTC's devices from years ago perform better graphically then the Kaiser. Who'd have ever thought THAT would happen (especially considering the vast technological improvements)?!?!
I have been lurking on the Diamond forums keeping an eye on how things play out. We still haven't seen a US-based Diamond variant yet.
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Yes McHale but even if that is the case the Touch Pro is running the same chipset as the Diamond (7201A) so people could just make hybrid ROMs incorporating the best of both devices. Next question.
I'm not talking about the video specifically, I'm talking about support and proper implementation of hardware. Believe me, I'm not bashing HTC. I have enough devices I can say I supported them quite a little. I'm saying we haven't seen a US model yet and until I see the model that will work in the states, we don't know how well it will be implemented.
-Mc
You guys make me feel like A Noob again.
Not a Dev, but come agust 28th, i'll be switching to my new Baby and thread.
ill be here also,,,, full throttle.
Still debating when to get the ***** purchased, get it before holiday......or after?? hmmm
(bearing in mind i chose day before holidays to get my Hermes back in 2k6 lol)
i will switch over when at&t comes out with their version.
hope soon cause i can't stand the wait.
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Still debating when to get the ***** purchased, get it before holiday......or after?? hmmm
(bearing in mind i chose day before holidays to get my Hermes back in 2k6 lol)
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I've done the same mate, the Raphael should arrive just before we fly off to Florida (hopefully) gives me plenty of time to work on some Roms whilst away (and a new toy to play with on the plane)
Stocks for pre-orders are running a bit low on most UK sites now though, so be quick if you do want one. Expansys did me one for £460 with case and cables TV Out etc. I imagine prices will rise slightly after release and demand will be pretty high. The Uni finally gets chance to have a rest in the Bottom-Drawer Beasty PDA vault.
Cheers,
Beasty
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You guys make me feel like A Noob again.
Not a Dev, but come agust 28th, i'll be switching to my new Baby and thread.
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is 28th Aug the official release to retail date?
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is 28th Aug the official release to retail date?
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Since this isn't about the release, (that's another thread)
No the 28th is not the release date, It's when "I" get my Baby.
i so happy that i see some of my fav devs getting ready for my new HTC!!.
i was hoping to stay with the original Rom at least 6 months but i dont thing this will happen with u all!!
good luck
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Oh the glory and the smell of a new phone. As I posted a few weeks ago, the HTC S420 is coming. This is the follow on to the StarTrek and I must say, with some nice feature upgrades. We know, there is NO WiFi, but I am willing to sacrifice sleekness for a few things. Did we already mention that it will have WM6, 400Mhz CPU, GPS Receiver, Quad-Band, FM Radio, UMTS, and a 2.0 mega-pixel camera. Oh yea!!
So gentlemen and ladies, get your Credit Cards warmed up because supposedly we have a RTS/Release date of May 16th, 2007.
Here are some sites that are taking pre-orders. Click here to see some Froogle ads. (I in no way endorse these sites) Matter of fact I prefer the good ol' eBay way or MobilePlanet myself.
And yes...The initial sticker price is high but just give it a few weeks and your carriers should have them in stock.
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Oh the glory and the smell of a new phone. As I posted a few weeks ago, the HTC S420 is coming. This is the follow on to the StarTrek and I must say, with some nice feature upgrades. We know, there is NO WiFi, but I am willing to sacrifice sleekness for a few things. Did we already mention that it will have WM6, 400Mhz CPU, GPS Receiver, Quad-Band, FM Radio, UMTS, and a 2.0 mega-pixel camera. Oh yea!!
So gentlemen and ladies, get your Credit Cards warmed up because supposedly we have a RTS/Release date of May 16th, 2007.
Here are some sites that are taking pre-orders. Click here to see some Froogle ads. (I in no way endorse these sites) Matter of fact I prefer the good ol' eBay way or MobilePlanet myself.
And yes...The initial sticker price is high but just give it a few weeks and your carriers should have them in stock.
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Correction on Date - Received new word that it will be May 18th, 2007.
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Thanks for the info. This is the first time I read something about a release date of this little beauty.
In Denmark??
Hi.. Do you think that this phone is gonna be on the marked in may, in Denmark to??
Would be great
hmm ive only seen a mock up CGI type pic of the unit not an actual live photo,any around?
Today it's the 18th. No news on it so far on the Net. I hope it will be released soon, though I do not excpect it before june. We'll see.
I hoping we at least see it in June. No one has yet seen a pre-production/release model yet which usually crops up first. I checked with Haider at SMG and he has no word. There are a couple of folks who have the pre-production S630s so we will probably see that released first. Dopod has also announced their version of. As of yet, I have seen no official announcements on the erato.
I need it the HTC S420
if there not even an in the wild tru pic knocking around the net ,then i doubt we are anywere near getting it myself
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if there not even an in the wild tru pic knocking around the net ,then i doubt we are anywere near getting it myself
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I agree. Let's hope their just looking for better battery life before releasing this little baby.
I was hoping it would be out...and that the Bluetooth to Uconnect would sound better (my main complaint about the StarTrek)
Steve
Arrrggg...
Damm, i hope they release it soon it´s difficult to wait...
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Damm, i hope they release it soon it´s difficult to wait...
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this happens everytime we get specs we are always disappointed with release time. but i for one will be getting raped buying the import for cingular becuase i wont wait love how its 3g ready for cings band.
HTC S420 (also known as Erato) has been canceled.
HTC announced it on 29. May. They cancel releasing and doesnt start to produce the smartphone.
That sucks but would not be totally unexpected.
Can you give us the link to the press release since it's not (yet) on one of the HTC sites?
This message appeared here: http://obchod.sunnysoft.cz/scripts/shop_NF.asp
It's Czech, not English. But I am sure you understand what does mean the cross on the picture.
HTC S420 Still on Track
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HTC S420 (also known as Erato) has been canceled.
HTC announced it on 29. May. They cancel releasing and doesnt start to produce the smartphone.
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I find that weird that they are canceling a great phone but you never know. I did call the HTC Bellevue office and they knew nothing of a cancellation. I will email the Taiwanese location and see if there have been any developments. You never know.
Just do clarify, Froogle and PDAdb.net has the phone still coming in July now.
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This message appeared here: http://obchod.sunnysoft.cz/scripts/shop_NF.asp
It's Czech, not English. But I am sure you understand what does mean the cross on the picture.
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Well, that's just what sunnysoft said. And after all the crap they posted (i.e. Qtek 8500 has miniUSB, selling extUSB>JACK as microUSB>JACK,............), who will believe to what they said? They also said that Treo 750 will never be shipped to Europe
Another info from simon211175 at modaco (his post)
Last week I emailed HTC europe to find out if the StrTrk/Qtek 8500 was going to be given the WM6 facelift. When they said (in vague terms) "no", I asked when its successor (S420/Erato) will be out.
The reply was "The release date for the HTC 420 is expected to be in July 2007"
I know this probably means September at the earliest, but it's a start.
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Now I am a bit confused but this message may be few days older...
Well, so far the Czech Sunnysoft site is the only one claiming the Erato is cancelled. No other site confirming it or confirmation from HTC. So, let's cross fingers for a July release
Hey I don't normally post on here, I have been over at ppcgeeks for over a year now and thought everyone would like to read this. Hopefully its true.
"Read this before you start flaming....
So, recognizing that it is definately NOT early Q1 2008 anymore, I decided to go on an info seeking quest with Sprint Customer Service. After about 45 minutes of being put on hold...transfered twice...some social engineering....I finally got transfered to a device engineer. Mind you, this was not any type of customer service rep or tech support guy. This was an engineer who actually worked on it.
He confirmed, and very quickly I might add (didn't need to look anything up....he immediately knew the answer), that the update we all DESPERATELY want will come out this Friday, February 15th. I said to him, "This Friday? That's a strange day. You guys usually release on Mondays." He replied, "Yes, it is an unusual day. We are releasing it on Friday because it's already late to market."
I think this is pretty credible info. He backed it up with admission of a strange release day and the fact that it's late.
Now, bring it on Naysayers...."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18489
We don't flame here:-D
I'm pretty sure this is the tenth "for sure" release date we've heard.
Well, I was on hold with Sprint for almost 45 minutes and was told that the new update was coming out on Friday. He couldn't give me any details other than that. Sounds promising, but I'm not going to hold my breath!
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I'm pretty sure this is the tenth "for sure" release date we've heard.
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I know, but I am just hoping that Sprint will follow through on one of them. At least by default.
here is why I wouldn't believe this...(and I'm not flaming the poster here just pointing out some inconsistencies...)
1 - If it was actually done and what he said was true they would have released it as soon as it was officially DONE...for the same reasons he said it would be released on a friday...It's Late...Why delay till friday if it is complete?
2 - Sorint isn't the one actually working on this release...HTC is! All Sprint might do is integrate it into a ROM for their phones but HTC was the one actually working on the radio. Maybe the radio is done and Spint has it but again if they had it why wait till friday to release it?
Only reason to wait on a release is for testing purposes...
And if that is true then they could just as easily find a problem and delay again...
No matter what the truth is, It will be done when it's done! We have DCD's ROMs to work with for now. And even if Sprint does release Friday it will take a day or two before guys like DCD and No2Chem extract the stable radio in it and cook up some Roms for everyone else.
The only thing I know thats happening on Friday for Sprint is that my neighbor and good friend maybe out of a job, Sprint is going through a MASSIVE restructuring and layoff. His support area is going from 15 cell site techs to 7.... Sprints got real issues other than slow ROM updates
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And even if Sprint does release Friday it will take a day or two before guys like DCD and No2Chem extract the stable radio in it and cook up some Roms for everyone else.
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i dont know about a few days, when the 3.16 beta was leaked DCD had cooked roms up in about 8 hours, lol
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here is why I wouldn't believe this...(and I'm not flaming the poster here just pointing out some inconsistencies...)
1 - If it was actually done and what he said was true they would have released it as soon as it was officially DONE...for the same reasons he said it would be released on a friday...It's Late...Why delay till friday if it is complete?
2 - Sorint isn't the one actually working on this release...HTC is! All Sprint might do is integrate it into a ROM for their phones but HTC was the one actually working on the radio. Maybe the radio is done and Spint has it but again if they had it why wait till friday to release it?
Only reason to wait on a release is for testing purposes...
And if that is true then they could just as easily find a problem and delay again...
No matter what the truth is, It will be done when it's done! We have DCD's ROMs to work with for now. And even if Sprint does release Friday it will take a day or two before guys like DCD and No2Chem extract the stable radio in it and cook up some Roms for everyone else.
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You'd be surprised. I used to work for a company (will let the company rename nameless) that did all the picturemail testing and QA for sprint phones and when we would get new firmware and everything was QAed and done and certified for release the firmware was not "immediately" released. They ALWAYS set a date a for real production but would have it in "production" for a week or so with the sprint people to make sure everything worked fine.
why dont they just mail the files to dcd or colonel and let them do it for em? seems like something would actually get done and done right.
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why dont they just mail the files to dcd or colonel and let them do it for em? seems like something would actually get done and done right.
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You know, that does make sense...
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Hey I don't normally post on here, I have been over at ppcgeeks for over a year now and thought everyone would like to read this. Hopefully its true.
"Read this before you start flaming....
So, recognizing that it is definately NOT early Q1 2008 anymore, I decided to go on an info seeking quest with Sprint Customer Service. After about 45 minutes of being put on hold...transfered twice...some social engineering....I finally got transfered to a device engineer. Mind you, this was not any type of customer service rep or tech support guy. This was an engineer who actually worked on it.
He confirmed, and very quickly I might add (didn't need to look anything up....he immediately knew the answer), that the update we all DESPERATELY want will come out this Friday, February 15th. I said to him, "This Friday? That's a strange day. You guys usually release on Mondays." He replied, "Yes, it is an unusual day. We are releasing it on Friday because it's already late to market."
I think this is pretty credible info. He backed it up with admission of a strange release day and the fact that it's late.
Now, bring it on Naysayers...."
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=18489
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I'll check with my friend who leaked me the early testing version with GPS and RevA
I'm sure he's reliable
I am just confused why the release will be Friday. Usually they release Monday just in case there are any issues they have tech support on hand M-F to fix the issues. I am talking even the basic issues with a good rom. Plus everyone knows the techs do not set the release data. Upper Management sets the release date once they feel like it is in control. Just my opinion.
they cant tech their way out of a wet paper sack anyway. the devs in here are far better support than any pin head at sprint will ever be. Ill wait for the xda gurus and the ppc guys (if they get their site working right) to put thier heads together and build a screamin rom for us all
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they cant tech their way out of a wet paper sack anyway. the devs in here are far better support than any pin head at sprint will ever be. Ill wait for the xda gurus and the ppc guys (if they get their site working right) to put thier heads together and build a screamin rom for us all
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Are you stupid or something? Do you really think any carrier makes thier own ROM? HTC does all of it, every little bit, and then carriers bug test and HTC sends them another. Why do people think carriers make phones or software? All they make is a network.
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Are you stupid or something? Do you really think any carrier makes thier own ROM? HTC does all of it, every little bit, and then carriers bug test and HTC sends them another. Why do people think carriers make phones or software? All they make is a network.
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Oh no... and carefull tossing around accusations of "stupidity"... You've already touched upon testing, but also often either in house or contracted out development is done for carrier specific applications and configurations for the carriers' released ROMs.
Kmart Afther you gave us gps you have my complete trust!
http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.
why is this something we are supposed to get excited about? we've had it for weeks
now if it was the video drivers... that would be another story
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http://www.america.htc.com/support/mogul/software-downloads.html
HTC is currently developing a separate ROM update which enables the EV-DO Rev. A and GPS capabilities that are already built into the Mogul hardware. Sprint and HTC plan to make this software ROM available in early 1Q 2008. Please bookmark this page for easy reference.
why is this something we are supposed to get excited about? we've had it for weeks
now if it was the video drivers... that would be another story
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I think a lot of people are hoping for a less flaky radio in the official version (that doesn't randomly drop the data connection). Really that's about it I think.
They ALWAYS set a date a for real production but would have it in "production" for a week or so with the sprint people to make sure everything worked fine.
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Well my point was until their final testing is complete you can't really be sure they have a stable release at all...
they may have set Friday as the release date so they could test but that friday is just another deadline that could be missed if they find some issue between now and then...
So you can't really say it is READY unless you have already done all your testing and if you haven't then it is not actually ready yet...
In either case something said is not really fact! Either it was tested and ready so why not release...Or it is being tested until friday to see if it is good and therefore NOT READY yet...
Thats all I was trying to get across.
i dont know about a few days, when the 3.16 beta was leaked DCD had cooked roms up in about 8 hours, lol
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LOL very true....
what has happened to the titan scene on xda, no one developing anymore? everyone move too ppcgeeks or something? whats the story with this ghost town forum?
What's left? This thing works perfect!
Yeah does seem strangely quiet lately I guess its due the imminent release of the Pro in the states for all the Sprint and ATT people
Everyone got tired of carrying around bricks and got Touch Diamonds.
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What's left? This thing works perfect!
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I kinda have to agree here... DCD 3.2.6 has just been stable and good to me... I am going to give nueRom3 a shot eventually, but I think the excitement of the Titan is gone and people are now focusing on the Diamond and Touch Pro
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what has happened to the titan scene on xda, no one developing anymore? everyone move too ppcgeeks or something? whats the story with this ghost town forum?
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I agree, it has been a ghost town after GC hooked us up with solid GPS. Not a whole lot more hardware wise we can do. We need to focus on creating bad ass custom ROMS. Check my first publicly released rom at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436997&page=2 Post #15.
Peace!
not sure about the rest of you, but I am completely satisfied with dcd3.2.6 and intend to keep running it until the Touch HD is released in the US.
I really wish development would have continued, I never got SMS working on 3.2.6, so I'm stuck with 3.2.5 and the annoying callwating... noise.
Yea and sucks b/c verizon wont get a diamond or anything like it for a very long time so Im stuck with what we got here
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not sure about the rest of you, but I am completely satisfied with dcd3.2.6 and intend to keep running it until the Touch HD is released in the US.
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sorry to say, but i saw this article a week or so ago...Touch HD isnt coming to the US
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10060561-1.html
it does say that HTC has some other great stuff planned, but who knows how long itll be till anyone gets it...and then add some time till verizon finally does.
I agree with you, things seem slow around here. I read this forum every night, seems as though DCD was always trying to find a better way to do something and a lot of other great solutions were born out his enthusiasm. Hope to see him back soon!
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Yea and sucks b/c verizon wont get a diamond or anything like it for a very long time so Im stuck with what we got here
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According to an article on on Engagdet Mobile training for the Touch Diamond had to be completed by December. So maybe Verizon will be getting it sooner then everyone expects. It is Verizon though so who knows.
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sorry to say, but i saw this article a week or so ago...Touch HD isnt coming to the US
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-10060561-1.html
it does say that HTC has some other great stuff planned, but who knows how long itll be till anyone gets it...and then add some time till verizon finally does.
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Sprint is getting the Touch HD, just not in its current form. It will have WiMAX integrated when released in the US next year.
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According to an article on on Engagdet Mobile training for the Touch Diamond had to be completed by December. So maybe Verizon will be getting it sooner then everyone expects. It is Verizon though so who knows.
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True hopefully it will be before the end of the year. Also Verizon will carry the Omnia soon as well. It's name showed up on the Rebate forms at work
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True hopefully it will be before the end of the year. Also Verizon will carry the Omnia soon as well. It's name showed up on the Rebate forms at work
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I've been following this one... I'm due for an upgrade. As much as I love my Titan, I am always up for the latest and greatest - and the Omnia does look pretty nice. I do seem to remember a similar topic last year with the XV6800... didn't it show up on some rebate forms months before it was released? Knowing Verizon, I'm not getting my hopes up yet...
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I do seem to remember a similar topic last year with the XV6800... didn't it show up on some rebate forms months before it was released? Knowing Verizon, I'm not getting my hopes up yet...
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Very true. Came out like 3 months after it first started showing up on the rebate forms.
I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I am in favor with you. I really enjoy my 6800 and I just updated to the vwz TP. I do not plan to selll the 6800.
I only updated because the development is moving to the TP and like you so frustrated with no memory. They did reduce the vzw TP memory which sucks so many are getting the Sprint version and making it work on vzw which is easy to do which has more memory. All the info is at ppcgeeks which where I read more now.
There are many roms over there..overload...but I found that SSK 1.5 provides the best memory for the TP since it has less. Device is fast, gps all works with the right patches but I do miss the 6800 however this new model is growing on me...
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I am in favor with you. I really enjoy my 6800 and I just updated to the vwz TP. I do not plan to selll the 6800.
I only updated because the development is moving to the TP and like you so frustrated with no memory. They did reduce the vzw TP memory which sucks so many are getting the Sprint version and making it work on vzw which is easy to do which has more memory. All the info is at ppcgeeks which where I read more now.
There are many roms over there..overload...but I found that SSK 1.5 provides the best memory for the TP since it has less. Device is fast, gps all works with the right patches but I do miss the 6800 however this new model is growing on me...
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I have started looking at newer models, but I still like most of what the Titan has to offer. I wonder if anyone has come out with a clean version of Android on the Titan? I think the biggest problem was the lack of memory.
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I have started looking at newer models, but I still like most of what the Titan has to offer. I wonder if anyone has come out with a clean version of Android on the Titan? I think the biggest problem was the lack of memory.
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I think that many of us will just continue supporting the titan as changes happen, and not move forward until there is a better phone for us. I don't like the TP completely, even on sprint cause the titan is so near perfect in design. Ram and resolution are the only issues for me, I love the buttons and roller and would love to be able to open it up and solder a 2GB chip onboard.
Android is interesting, but there may be software and hardware issues that could plague it from being a great solution, but I would love to see it work.
Of course the Titan is dying. It's been replaced by all the carriers with some variant of the Touch Pro, and supposedly the Touch Pro 2 will be out sometime this year. That would make the Titan 2 generations of phones old. Not many people want to spend time making new ROM's for a 2-3 year old phone when there are much better phones out there to support.
It has been, by far, the best phone I've ever owned. Durable, decent reception, voice clarity, battery life (using an upgraded battery from Seidio), and I love Windows Mobile. I've just never been a Blackberry guy, never loved the Apple OS, and still not quite sold on Android.
But its just like any other electronics equipment... newer and better things come out eventually, and the old stuff fades away. I've resisted going to the Touch Pro with Verizon specifically because of its reduced RAM (compared to ATT/Sprint versions), and because I dont like the keyboard layout. I'm also not a major proponent of getting the Sprint phone then using it on VZW's network, just cause I'm not comfortable with that idea for whatever reason.
For now, my XV6800 lives on. Sure, my vibrate doesnt work anymore, but oh well. I still find it to be incredibly reliable for every day use, and until the TP2 or something along those lines comes out, its the phone for me.
My contract ends this December so I have a while to go with my Titan. Either way I love it and I use Sk-tools which helps a lot! I do like all the hardware buttons.
Really I don't see myself getting another Windows Phone unless it has Windows Mobile 7.
titan scene is dying. the supports, at least here at xda has disappeared. the devs have moved on, unfortunately. i would love to work with some other devs to get android working on this phone, but its tough finding people who want to take on that task.
i think htc will be releasing a cdma phone with android soon, i might end up getting that... but in the mean time i am just running DCD's 3.2.6 with HTC Home. nice and simple, and quick.
the Titan is dying..quite honestly, I'm waiting on the Palm Pre to be out..I can't deal with the severe memory leaks most WM phones have
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I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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The titan is being out modelled yes, but the titan is still very much alive. All the 6.5 coming out have been successfully ported to the titan, and guess what it just keeps getting better.
Yes the earlier builds of 6.5 were sluggish but the builds coming out now are faaaaaast. Get to try one and you will not be too fast on ditching your old love for a new lover.
Whats Titan
Whats Titan anyways?
Not in the coffin yet...
It's fascinating to see all the different responses. I too have a contract until the later part of the year so I won't be moving to a new phone any time soon, but I am starting to look down the line. It is hard to think that my little friend will eventually be collecting dust in the closet by then, it has been, as someone stated, the best phone I've ever owned. Sure it has flaws like lack of memory, memory leaks, a small screen (although it did seem big at one time) and so on, but overall I think, with the help of communities like xda and others, the benefits far outweigh them. Funny thing is I finding I'm using less and less apps on the phone -not exactly sure why though.
BTW I don't like the new MSIE6 at all -does anyone know of any tips or tricks for it?
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Whats Titan anyways?
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Not sure if you're joking or not, but just in case you're not.
Titan = HTC XV6800 -AKA: Sprint Mogul PPC-6800, I'm sure there are other guises it goes by...
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The titan is being out modelled yes, but the titan is still very much alive. All the 6.5 coming out have been successfully ported to the titan, and guess what it just keeps getting better.
Yes the earlier builds of 6.5 were sluggish but the builds coming out now are faaaaaast. Get to try one and you will not be too fast on ditching your old love for a new lover.
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Vickylife007,
Which WM6.5 do you have in mind? There are so many out there and I believe I've tried most of them to the same results (I know their betas, so they aren't perfect yet).
I'm always willing to try new things to spice up my love life
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My contract ends this December so I have a while to go with my Titan. Either way I love it and I use Sk-tools which helps a lot! I do like all the hardware buttons.
Really I don't see myself getting another Windows Phone unless it has Windows Mobile 7.
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I've been out of a contract for 6 months now. I like my Titan, it works pretty good, my limits, battery life (will there ever be a PDA phone battery that lasts a week with use ?) and memory limits.
I've said a few time on this site as well as PPCgeeks, I will not buy a new phone till we see some new features (more than a little more memory, newer screen and shape of phone), and from what I am reading that will come down the line in WM 7. Pretty much all the phones are about the same when it comes down to real specs, there is no reason to upgrade to a newer phone. Oh, yea, they look a little nicer, not worth that in my eyes
After all, with internet, GPS, a keyboard, and all the other little bells the Titan has, who really needs another phone ?
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Vickylife007,
Which WM6.5 do you have in mind? There are so many out there and I believe I've tried most of them to the same results (I know their betas, so they aren't perfect yet).
I'm always willing to try new things to spice up my love life
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21193 is good, 21198 is great. Yeah they are all betas, they will remain so in name until there is an official release from MS, but they are stable for everyday use. If you like trying new things then try to catch up with the builds as they come out like two per week. I personally have had problems catching up.........................you may have a nack for this.
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21193 is good, 21198 is great. Yeah they are all betas, they will remain so in name until there is an official release from MS, but they are stable for everyday use. If you like trying new things then try to catch up with the builds as they come out like two per week. I personally have had problems catching up.........................you may have a nack for this.
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Actually I'm having a tough time keeping up too. I just tried Titan_21198_Beta_1. It's not bad, but in the few hours I've had it now there's Titan_21198_Beta_1.1. Haha...
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Actually I'm having a tough time keeping up too. I just tried Titan_21198_Beta_1. It's not bad, but in the few hours I've had it now there's Titan_21198_Beta_1.1. Haha...
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It gets better, 21314 is reported to be out.
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It gets better, 21314 is reported to be out.
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What happened to all the releases in between!? Oh well at least I don't have to test all of them.
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It's fascinating to see all the different responses. I too have a contract until the later part of the year so I won't be moving to a new phone any time soon, but I am starting to look down the line. It is hard to think that my little friend will eventually be collecting dust in the closet by then, it has been, as someone stated, the best phone I've ever owned. Sure it has flaws like lack of memory, memory leaks, a small screen (although it did seem big at one time) and so on, but overall I think, with the help of communities like xda and others, the benefits far outweigh them. Funny thing is I finding I'm using less and less apps on the phone -not exactly sure why though.
BTW I don't like the new MSIE6 at all -does anyone know of any tips or tricks for it?
Not sure if you're joking or not, but just in case you're not.
Titan = HTC XV6800 -AKA: Sprint Mogul PPC-6800, I'm sure there are other guises it goes by...
Vickylife007,
Which WM6.5 do you have in mind? There are so many out there and I believe I've tried most of them to the same results (I know their betas, so they aren't perfect yet).
I'm always willing to try new things to spice up my love life
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I'm the same way...... I had, at one point, 30-40 apps installed and 20-30 games. Then I realized most of them were things I NEVER used. The last time I flashed my phone to DCD 3.3.4, I decided to only install stuff I actually use.... which is maybe 10 apps and 5 games at most. The phone is so fast without all that extra junk.
I played with WM6.5, and honestly, not that impressed. I dont see a huge difference. Maybe WM7 will have something amazing and make an upgrade worthwhile.
I see myself eventually going to a different OS though, depending on what HTC cooks up for us.
WM7 will probably be too much for our Titans to handle; it may get obsoleted due to hardware requirements. my hope is for Linux (Android)! or whomever gives me Flash 10 first...
Android...
From my searches (granted they haven't been too in depth) it would appear nobody is really picking up on Android builds for the Titan. The ones out there now are just apps to run on top of WM, which kinda makes it pointless. It seems the lack of memory on the Titan is an issue for the Android OS to run on it's own.
Has anyone heard different?
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I notice that there has been a lag in the ROMS and updates for the WM6.5 Betas. I'm not sold on WM6.5 yet so I'm thinking about going back to WM6.1. However, given recent news that some carriers are pulling the Titan product in favor of a newer model I'm starting to wonder if the phone may be losing it's luster and on the outs. I love my Titan, but am becoming frustrated with it's lack of memory (hence performance). To me WM6.5 seems to be clunkier than WM6.1, making the Titan even more sluggish. If this is the case it would make sense carriers would stop selling it in favor of a newer model with more memory and performance capabilities.
BTW thanks to everyone on the forums who have given a piece of themselves so that we all can enjoy the fruits of their labor.
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I like to think of my Titan like the child that was born with an incurable genetic disease. I may love it and do all I can for it,but yes,in the end ,it is in fact dieing,and it started before it was even born. I just try to help it along doing all the things that other phones do and minimize its suffering while waiting for the inevitable.
Regarding your enquiry, kindly be informed that we are working on an Eclair update (2.0) for the HTC Hero. Because Eclair is a significantly enhanced release, it will require some time to update Sense for this new version of the Android OS. Please be patient while we work to provide you with a tightly integrated experience like the one you are already enjoying on your Hero.
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Regarding your request, unfortunately this is the only information we have at the moment regarding that matter, regrettably there is no information regarding Android 2.1 operating system neither a confirmation that it will be available nor a denial, kindly check on the HTC website on the support page to keep track of any newly released upgrades.
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We have waited for a long time so far and the day we get 2.0, it will be an old version already.
MCR 3.1 > Android 2.x
It clearly sux but sense adds a lot to android, so the difference between 2.0 and 2.1 is way smaller than the difference between 2.1 and 2.0 + sense.
We just have to hope that 2.0 won't be the last update for the Hero...
It takes time to develop these things.
As for the quotes from HTC, those are your standard "I'm just a CSR and I'm not allowed to say anything whether I actually know it or not" response. And we really haven't waited that long. A couple months? For HTC to overhaul their UI to a completely new API? Be patient, it's coming. I'd be willing to bet that the update is 2.1, since we already have a ROM based on an HTC leak. Why would there be a leaked 2.1 ROM if they weren't going to put one out?
@kouray: The phone's been out for less than a year. This won't be the last update.
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We have waited for a long time so far and the day we get 2.0, it will be an old version already.
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HTC have already tweeted last month that the Sprint Hero will be getting 2.1 instead of 2.0. There's no reason to believe that this isn't also true of the GSM Hero!
Regards,
Dave
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HTC have already tweeted last month that the Sprint Hero will be getting 2.1 instead of 2.0. There's no reason to believe that this isn't also true of the GSM Hero!
Regards,
Dave
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I also would like to believe in that we will get 2.1 instead of 2.0. But I pasted the response from HTC Support without touching a comma.
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I also would like to believe in that we will get 2.1 instead of 2.0. But I pasted the response from HTC Support without touching a comma.
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HTC CSRs are notoriously ill-informed most of the time.
2.1 is still Eclair - it's just got some bug fixes in it. Lox-Dev and Benhaams ROM is based on a leaked HTC build of 2.1, so it is clear that HTC are working on 2.1 for the Hero.
Regards,
Dave
I hope you are right.
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HTC CSRs are notoriously ill-informed most of the time.
2.1 is still Eclair - it's just got some bug fixes in it. Lox-Dev and Benhaams ROM is based on a leaked HTC build of 2.1, so it is clear that HTC are working on 2.1 for the Hero.
Regards,
Dave
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even if they don't release it, i am optimistic that the great devs here & on xda will make the advantages of 2.1 available for a hero rom... whatever they are exactly, somebody has a changelog of android at hand?
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@kouray: The phone's been out for less than a year. This won't be the last update.
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Hope so, I used to be on samsung phones so I don't know anything about updates
But I still think HTC will stop updates on hero someday soon to sell their 2nd generation android phones..
kouray said:
Hope so, I used to be on samsung phones so I don't know anything about updates
But I still think HTC will stop updates on hero someday soon to sell their 2nd generation android phones..
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You're probably right... but hopefully that won't happen till Android out-grows the Hero hardware.
I sent a support request asking about the release of 2.x. They answered me that it was coming "in the middle of the year".
In the mean time I am really enjoing LoxDev's KaguDroid. I like it so much that I don't think I will ever go back to Sense. KaguDroid is the only Custom ROM that has stayed on my Hero for more than two days.
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Fools - I, very kindly, addressed this entire issue for you - I even made some suggestions as to how to live in the 'real' ****ing world - you ****s will never learn - as for the grandiose bombastic solipsist who labells himself craig0r (i'm pressuming the use othe zero in the 'handle' is some kind of 'in' nerd gag - hilarious) this true **** will never learn and merely infects all around him with his funny as cancer 'laughs' and incredible insights
Poor Poor Poor boys - ah well !!
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gabtit said:
I have enjoyed my world tour to bypass 'security' - mainly visited the states but also a good troll through Europe with an emphasis on the Netherlands - as for what has gone on here the two fools labelled craig0r (see previous post for sentiment on the label) and Liamhere - also know as cowardly oberfuhrercnut no 1 - what can I say that I already haven't ? How's about an example to illustrate what I'm crapping on about:
The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy - Be it book, Series or Film nothing changes - what doesn't change I hear you ask - well, the gobsmackingly consistent way it is as funny as a 3 year old having been run over - yet some people, for reasons unknown - see it as hilarious. This sums up these two fools - in the 'real ' world - nazi overzealous small men that keep interfering are detested (Liamhere) and self-congratulatory, pedantic humourless solipsists who have a vastly overinflated sense of their own self-worth / self importance and merely cling at straws (crai0r) - ****s like these are detested. I don't get it - I see plenty of people here who are good lads and lasses with some intellect and wit - yet ****s like these are defended - boo hoo - Someone illuminate me - note to craig0r - not you you **** - as I've made pretty ****ing clear I'm not remotely interested in either you, the **** labelled Liamhere or the 'Phantom' admin that keeps booting me - only for me to re-emerge - I'm not going away so ****in face up to it
Denounce these fools and allow free speech, intellect and Humour reign supreme on what is, IMHO (for the nerds that last acronym) and excellent site (note the cloying sycophancy of the last statement) - Au revoir for now, your humble servant
Simon xx
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calm down bro. nothing to get personal in internet forums.
dying4004 said:
calm down bro. nothing to get personal in internet forums.
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Please don't feed trolls.
However, I expect from any company producing so called "up-to-date" products, like smartphones, that they update their products for some time (at least one year) quickly, because their customers bought those products, to have a modern, state of the art thing. In the case of the Hero that's not the case, since we are waiting for an update since two or three months.
felikz said:
However, I expect from any company producing so called "up-to-date" products, like smartphones, that they update their products for some time (at least one year) quickly, because their customers bought those products, to have a modern, state of the art thing. In the case of the Hero that's not the case, since we are waiting for an update since two or three months.
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dude, you really don't know bout technology stuff like this is obsolete when it's released, and they start developing again. it's not easy to re-write software to suit something different... be patient
felikz said:
However, I expect from any company producing so called "up-to-date" products, like smartphones, that they update their products for some time (at least one year) quickly, because their customers bought those products, to have a modern, state of the art thing. In the case of the Hero that's not the case, since we are waiting for an update since two or three months.
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http://www.itechnews.net/2009/12/08/htc-2010-android-lineup-leaked/
with all the htc devices coming up in 2010, especially the bravo and the htc legend ( supposedly the succesor to hero) i dont think the htc hero will get any updates after the promised eclair one.
I bought the Hero when it was released in the UK. people said "ooh, watch out, HTC won't support that". I laughed, "HTC are fantastic" etc etc.
Unfortunately it turns out they were actually right as I'm still stuck at 1.5 officially. Options are there thanks to devs here but it's still garbage that the hero has been left in favour of pushing out the new phones instead. I've had a few tweets at HTC on twitter, they've announced updates twice so far which have subsequently been canned. Meanwhile i'm stuck with the old marketplace and unable to use any apps that require 1.6.... bollocks is what it is.
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I sent a support request asking about the release of 2.x. They answered me that it was coming "in the middle of the year".
In the mean time I am really enjoing LoxDev's KaguDroid. I like it so much that I don't think I will ever go back to Sense. KaguDroid is the only Custom ROM that has stayed on my Hero for more than two days.
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what's so good about it? anything missing/broken? edit: researched, looks to be incomplete and full of issues. guess i'll be waiting until someone gets a stable 2.+ for the HERO out :/
You're not really stuck, if you can get rid of sense you already can install some 2.0 roms (like kagudroid). The patience is required only for espresso..
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dude, you really don't know bout technology stuff like this is obsolete when it's released, and they start developing again. it's not easy to re-write software to suit something different... be patient
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i guess i know more than you, dude. whether it's - in your words - "easy" to update or not, that's not the point. the problem on their site is, that they do not invest enough resources into updating the phone.
of course it's only my expectation, but as you can see on these and many other forums, blog et cetera, many people are unsatisfied with the current situation. and all these people's are customers and when customers are unsatisfied with a company and/or their products/support they may change the company in future. that is what really matters.