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Hi to everyone in this forum. I've recently received as a present a new toshiba folio 100, but, since I'm experiencing an annoying menu button flashing, I've thought of it as a software problem so I upgraded the folio using the foliomod1.3c and applied the rotate patch and also the 1.3c fix patch. The menu still flash with no apparent logic. I've tried to kill all applications running and it's still there. It seem to come up and down at random. I ask to all in this forum: do you believe it's a hardware issue or is a software issue? Because if it's a hardware issue I'm going to try to have a new folio from toshiba. I'm overall very pleased with the work that Dexter made to make the folio an usable machine but this flashing is driving me crazy. I use the folio basically as a portable scientific pdf reader so I need to concentrate on what I read and this flashing is really annoying. I would like very much to thank you all in this forum in advance for all the suggestion/help you could provide.
use my "foliobuttons" app
teknoraver said:
use my "foliobuttons" app
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I have a request that serve All those who suffer MENU crazy button .
Is it possible to prepare application you can setting ON/OFF the MENU button
Most of the time useless button.
sometimes button jump after 10 minutes, sometimes after an hour
Usually I fix the problem by changing the settings with FolioButtons 1.1.
If you could add to FolioButtons on/off operation for menu Buttons was the best.
Hi teknoraver,
Can you add enabled/disabled menu button in foliobuttons application ?
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teknoraver said:
use my "foliobuttons" app
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I am pretty desperate about this issue, because none of the methods seem to help...
Right now the buttons work opposite- Menu button flashes mad and none of the other 3 responds...dont know how it happened
Just a thought- while the folio is booting up the menu button ALREADY flashes! I have zero understanding in there but isn't it a process that loads / starts early in the line?
I appreciate everyone's effort trying to solve this bug as it makes this handy tool a useless pile of crap.
I was wondering how many folio users are suffering of this crazy buttons madness.
Mine was crazy from the very beginning; I sent it back for repair and toshiba only did a firmware restore... Nothing changed at all!
It makes my folio almost unusable!
bye bye crazy buttons
After two weeks of testing and a complete breakdown of my folio100, I finally find the problem or just crazy buttons and freezing of the screen.
I drag a thickness in the screen in the bottom right corner of the screen to isolate the audio connector and it works better than a miracle again.
The only downside is that the screen comes out slightly from the slot but nothing really bad.
The thickness I put slightly too big or-1.4 mm I'll Demount next week to put a finer and I'll try to take pictures in passing.
Note however that the loss of waranty is innevitable.
Sorry for my bad english ;-)
I think it's a hardware issue and even a build quality issue.
If i hold my folio at the side of the buttons, i get the flashing buttons problem (even the foliobuttons app will not help), if i hold it at the other side, i've got no problems at all.
Do you have an animated background? Because I saw that some people had this issue with an animated background...
Hi Mshr73, nice first post indeed
Could you post some pictures of what you did?
Mshr73 said:
After two weeks of testing and a complete breakdown of my folio100, I finally find the problem or just crazy buttons and freezing of the screen.
I drag a thickness in the screen in the bottom right corner of the screen to isolate the audio connector and it works better than a miracle again.
The only downside is that the screen comes out slightly from the slot but nothing really bad.
The thickness I put slightly too big or-1.4 mm I'll Demount next week to put a finer and I'll try to take pictures in passing.
Note however that the loss of waranty is innevitable.
Sorry for my bad english ;-)
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seems to get better...
I really don’t want to be too quick on this, but Dexter’s 1.4 seems to bring relief to this issue - for 2 days I have been running this mod the menu button stopped flashing!!
Any similar impressions on this?
vietnamibalzsam said:
I really don’t want to be too quick on this, but Dexter’s 1.4 seems to bring relief to this issue - for 2 days I have been running this mod the menu button stopped flashing!!
Any similar impressions on this?
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No way pal, I guess I'm in the opposite situation. It still happens to me, and sometimes I think it even got worse... well, I can always look at crazy keys as a "special feature" that no other tablet will have!!!
I just tested without thickness under the screen, with foliomod 1.4 and after a few hours I again the problem of crazy buttons.
Mshr73 said:
After two weeks of testing and a complete breakdown of my folio100, I finally find the problem or just crazy buttons and freezing of the screen.
I drag a thickness in the screen in the bottom right corner of the screen to isolate the audio connector and it works better than a miracle again.
The only downside is that the screen comes out slightly from the slot but nothing really bad.
The thickness I put slightly too big or-1.4 mm I'll Demount next week to put a finer and I'll try to take pictures in passing.
Note however that the loss of waranty is innevitable.
Sorry for my bad english ;-)
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Well, I just finished dismantling e reassembling my Folio. Following your hint, I cut a piece of paper and put it between the audio connector and the back of the screen (yes, it was metal vs metal). I'll see whether it's gonna work or not. Crossing fingers for now.
Not that I'm so confident in leaving a piece of paper stuck right where the DC input is .
BTW, did you try with a smaller thickness? Even if this is the problem, I'm wondering whether a piece of paper would be enough or not.
thyself can someone. post pictures of before and after details?
we will be much appreciated
i didn't have the crazy buttons issue this far in 2 weeks, just my home butten needs to be pressed harder. I'm pretty sure it's hardware related, i read often that users experience it when changing from an warm room to a colder one, or in regions where its verry humid(some circuit closes maybe...). so Mshr73 is on the right way as far as i can tell.
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No way pal, I guess I'm in the opposite situation. It still happens to me, and sometimes I think it even got worse... well, I can always look at crazy keys as a "special feature" that no other tablet will have!!!
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Really sorry mate, I hope it will solved this for others too...
Anyhow, it is so disturbing, that I was already considering to send the tablet back to Toshiba...
I'll try to do this weekend if I do not have too many customers. I post the result Monday.
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I'll try to do this weekend if I do not have too many customers. I post the result Monday.
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I'm looking forward to your pictures, too... because my trial simply didn't work.
I tried with both a single piece of paper and then with 2 pieces wrapped in tape. I put these spacers between the back of the display and DC/audio connector.
In both cases, the crazy keys phenomenon started to happen after 15-20 minutes of usage.
In most cases, it starts to show when I unlock the device. As soon as I unlock it, home and menu buttons light up with no apparent reason and go crazy for 10-30 seconds.
Then, I even tried to loosen just a little the screws (I read, somewhere in the forum, of a guy who said that he solved his crazy keys and screen lag problems this way). I mean, all screws are now locked but not too tight. Well, I have to say that I don't have any screen lag anymore (I even removed the piece of paper, from the battery area, which used to solve the issue before) but crazy keys still happen. I'm going slightly mad
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I'm looking forward to your pictures, too... because my trial simply didn't work.
I tried with both a single piece of paper and then with 2 pieces wrapped in tape. I put these spacers between the back of the display and DC/audio connector.
In both cases, the crazy keys phenomenon started to happen after 15-20 minutes of usage.
In most cases, it starts to show when I unlock the device. As soon as I unlock it, home and menu buttons light up with no apparent reason and go crazy for 10-30 seconds.
Then, I even tried to loosen just a little the screws (I read, somewhere in the forum, of a guy who said that he solved his crazy keys and screen lag problems this way). I mean, all screws are now locked but not too tight. Well, I have to say that I don't have any screen lag anymore (I even removed the piece of paper, from the battery area, which used to solve the issue before) but crazy keys still happen. I'm going slightly mad
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Well ... with a piece of paper the problem Come back.
I handed a piece of cardboard and the problem disappears.
I think that to raise the screen to solve them but I'm still not 100% sure.
So when I hold my finger still at the left side of the touchscreen (as far as I can), for example when dragging the youtube cursor thingy, it will start to jump around.. Anyone else having this problem?
Oh and for some reason this won't happen when connected to the ac adapter.
Used the screen check code , then click on touch
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Used the screen check code , then click on touch
type *#0*# into the dialer
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Yeah it passes but that was not the problem.. It still tracks but just jumos all over the place.
Check for touchpad noise *#80#
Odia said:
Check for touchpad noise *#80#
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I don't know how that could indicate anything like that.. (prob just don't get it).
Anyway it is easily noticable. For example when held with the left side down when watching a youtube clip. If you then hold the cursor still while holding your finger as low as possible, it will start to jump around. Or when sliding the homescreen to the left and holding it when your finger reaches the end and it will jump around.
Just tell me if you have this problem too.
Come one, anyone?
Anyone else having this? Just hold something and move your finger to the left of the touchscreen. Mine starts to jump around randomly.. I really don't need sensor things to test it as it is just clearly noticeable. I think I'm going back to the store with it tomorrow.
Right, the reason I have started this thread is, I see some discomfort using Back capacitive button. I am not complaining that buttons don't respond to touch, they do. All 3 of them.
Let me give you an example: I am playing with the phone, doing something on the screen. After, let's say few minutes, I want to go back, so I touch Back button, but it does not respond. I press few more times and eventually it registers. Some people would say "hit and miss" or "there is an issue with capacitive buttons". I say no, because I am touching it there, where I supposed to, also once it start registering, every time I press it, it registers (I have haptic feedback on, so I know it works). I have problems only, when I am not touching capacitive buttons for some time.
I hope I explained this well. I think this is, what in some reviews has been described as "hit and miss" or "capacitive buttons not register". Do you have the same problem? If yes, why is that happening? Is it software or hardware?
I don't have this problem because I realised that the most sensitive and best working area
for left/right button isactually in the inside space rather than exactly on those little points.
So once I press slightly to the middle, it works. It requires also a little longer press.
Ok, I will try that.
I do agree on the buttons. Probably the only thing to get used to, but one you do, no phone like it period! This is sick an amazing phone it is rediculous
The back button on my phone @ left corner is actually the best out of the three. and maybe I feel the same way about the middle "HOME" button where it registers little higher than the other two. actually I have hit it few times accidentally while I was trying to push the space bar on keyboard.
But every time I felt the haptic feedback, button worked.
I am happy with the performance of the buttons. It seems like they work like the power and eject buttons on the PS3. They respond when you remove your finger.
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The only thing I have to get used to...
Almost no extra hits anymore...
One touch is most of the times correct registered :-(
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Right, so by looks of it, there is no issue. Something I have to get used to. Thanks a lot guys. I also hope it will help future buyers as well.
I have not had any problems with the capacitive buttons so far and tbh i prefer them to hardware buttons like on the arc/play etc
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
I used to have a Nexus One and the buttons are similar to that, you sort of have to roll/slide your finger upwards on the button ever so slightly.
I barely notice it but I know what you mean.
I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Good tip.
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I find that if you aim just slightly to the middle of the screen rather than on the dots then it works great
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Yep doing the same
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pixate said:
No problems here. They are better than the one's on a Samsung galaxy s2.
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How can you be serious? I have both, and as perfect as the Xperia S is as an upgrade, its capacitive buttons are not as sharp and fool proof..that's my only gripe ...
Example situation of problem:
Right after finishing recording a decent length FullHD video, pressing home or back needs to be done repeatedly to register (MOST of the time).
Not a deal breaker, but I so hope this is software related..
I have the same issue but after one day of owning this phone im learning where to press to get a response first time
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Well I started off doing the "pressing above the dots" thing, until I noticed you could also swipe them (I swipe from the transparent bar up)....now I'm used to swiping them and never have any problem
I'm liking the swiping method, its impossible to miss and well..it's kinda fun for some reason
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Yeah, that works very well. Thanks.
I am just glad we have sorted it out and it turned out it is not a software or hardware issue. After reading some advises, my phone cooperates with me much better.
Hello again, I got the Prime today but the screen has a bow at the top in the middle. It is not flush with the rest of the tablet. The other problem is it doesn't seem to be charging so I am a bit confused about that. Any thoughts?
Thanks,
First thought is you should maybe think about swapping it out. It shouldn't bow in the middle at all. Mine is flat as are all the ones I've played with in stores.. Second thought is it should also be charging lol .. what's your plan for when the battery dies???
Sounds like a dud to me. I'd swap it if I were you maybe
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Ok, seems to be charging now but the bow seems a worry.
Yeah.. I wouldn't feel comfortable with a bow in the middle
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Exchange it where you bought it from.
Its going back tomorrow. There is nothing wrong with the tablet other than GPS. Wi Fi is great. Seems like its just a loose clip or something.
Swap it out. There shouldn't be any bow in it. Tablet should be flat. Don't wait and swap it out immediately.
lol how is this even a question? we all know Asus QC is crap, any imperfections swap it out ASAP!
Hey... mine didn't come with a bow?!?
Wonder if it's too late to exchange it for one with a bow on top.
Got my second one and from what I have seen it has no light bleed and the frame is all good. I haven't really tuned it on I only saw the screen when it was showing me it needed charging.
Well the second one is great,b but with bith of mine I occasionally get a faint clicking noise whenever I hit the back,home or multitasking button and when I pick up an app on the home screens. Anyone else get this?
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Well the second one is great,b but with bith of mine I occasionally get a faint clicking noise whenever I hit the back,home or multitasking button and when I pick up an app on the home screens. Anyone else get this?
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a faint clicking noise when hitting an onscreen software button? if so, cut off the sound for onscreen touches and such. doesn't really make sense. just sounds like you have it to make sounds when you press something on the screen. this can be cut off in the settings.
Ok, thanks for that. The last thing seems to be the battery. I read the instructions for once and it said to charge it all up. So i charged it till it was green and then powered it up for the first time. So as the instructions say i need to break the battery in. At the moment i am getting about 5-6 hours. The pad is on balanced with auto brightness. Does this seem normal for new battery. I would hope to end up with 9-10 or are my expeditions too high?
I will do a new topic cos its a new question
Is there a way to "re-calibrate" the screen or change the sensitivity?
I have found that when I need to press a button near the corner of the screen, (like on a friendstream widget to refresh), I usually have to press it several times or use my pinky.
I'm thinking either the "alignment" is off or the sensitivity needs to be tweaked (maybe my fingers are too big)
When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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When I first started typing on the Inc 4G, I noticed that sometimes it seemed like it was missing letters I was typing. As I started using it more, I realized that my hand was barely touching the corner of the screen next to the recent apps button, since I was used to using a small phone, the original Incredible. However, once I realized I was doing that, I stopped doing it. I have to consciously make the decision to stop every time I notice myself doing it. I've only been using it for a couple days, but I'm doing it less now, so hopefully I'll stop completely soon. I don't understand why it thinks the corner of the screen should be touch sensitive, because it's almost a full centimeter away from the recent apps button.
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interesting, I'll have to keep an eye on that.
but I'm trying to hit a small button on the top right corner of the screen.
I have the issue I mentioned before when I'm holding the phone in landscape mode with the capacitive buttons on the right, the base of my index finger where it meets my hand barely touches the screen about a centimeter above the recent apps button. I don't use the FriendStream widget, as I don't use social networks at all, but if the button is too small, it may be that your fingers are too big, but more likely you are touching the screen somewhere else. I only figured it out when I took my right hand away from the screen and was still typing with my left and the keys were working much easier for me.
Try taking the hand you're not using to press the button and put it on the bottom of the phone to hold it steady, then, using your other hand, only touch the screen where the refresh button is with your largest finger and see if it works. It may seem like really basic troubleshooting, but sometimes that's the way to go.
Failing that, try to go to Settings -> Language & keyboard -> HTC Sense Input -> Advanced settings -> Calibration tool
It only lets you type in portrait mode, which is kinda dumb since most typing is done in landscape mode, at least for me. It would be nice to at least have an option to do it in landscape.
Anyway, I hope one of these solutions helps.
can use this.
andybones said:
can use this.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
andybones said:
no this isn't true.
you don't have to press hard, you have to press in the correct spot...
this phone's display is tough to get used to.
prime example, trying to exit out of a single app in the stock task manager, is very tough, and always opens the app instead of hitting the x, it's annoying, but it's worth it, IMO
but here is a vid showing that I have zero difficulties going through the set-up.
that and a little teaser of the ROM Nitsuj17 and I are working on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPfzJmnBJXg
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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Well, I was having difficulties using it. I don't have fat sausage fingers, and I even tried using my pinky finger and pressing directly on it and everything after the first dot just didn't work unless I pressed very hard on it. Now that I've used it once and calibrated it, it works much easier doing it again. Perhaps it was just that the factory default calibration for my phone is just that off.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
lol, gotta read the directions my friend.
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the directions say press and HOLD..
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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lol. I read that. I was pressing and holding for 5+ seconds with normal pressure, and it took 3+ seconds with lots of pressure. After doing this the second time, I didn't even have to hold more than 1 second under normal pressure.
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ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
andybones said:
ahh, sorry about that
weird.. wonder if something is wrong with ur touchscreen
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Could be. Something's definitely wrong with my Weather app.
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The app you linked is difficult to use. I have to press it so hard that my screen does the LCD ripple thing mentioned in the other thread.
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Something definitely wrong with your screen then. Works like a champ for me.
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