i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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Search for these kind of cables:
http://www.nextag.com/Cables-to-Go-25FT-61235427/prices-html?nxtg=28c70a1c052e-34FA18FCC0551E95
RGB to VGA
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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I'm with you. I wanted to use a PC monitor for Remote Desktop control of a couple of PCs and servers with the TP2 (as I do with the Athena). Using the TP video out and converter cables will have the cables outweigh the phone by a factor of about 2 to 1.
I believe the output on the Blackstone is composite, not component in which case I don't think that would work.
Although you can get active converters to convert composite video to VGA/RGBHV, there will be a considerable loss of quality, especially in the fine detail. Basically, it will look very blurry.
There's plenty of them on Ebay, search for EXTUSB video , or "Touch pro video"
Yep, bought one of those composite/VGA converter boxes and can definitely confirm the loss of quality/bluriness. Also too bulky to carry around conveniently and requires a power supply. Hooked my Archos up yesterday (TP2 arrived today...!) just to remind myself, as it has the same screen res and also outputs via composite and apart from it being blurry, the image also flickers, which is quite annoying. Hadn't really noticed it before, cause it's not that noticable when watching video, but when viewing text or a presentation, that would be seriously off-putting! May just be my converter box, but thinking about the conversions the signal has to go through, I can't belive other converters are going to be much better.
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"Reqiures powersupply" ?
I cannot remeber that I used power supply with it, but yes, it does have a power-supply connector to allow charging while using tv-out.
Appologies, I was posting without properly referencing the post I was replying to.
I was relpying to crypticalpha's post, regarding composite to VGA converters. My converter box requires a powersupply in order to output a picture on the monitor/projector, else you can only get sound.
Since I have not yet held my TP2 in my hands, nor owned the TP1, I cannot comment on its TV out functionality.
I had assumed the phone itself would not be required to be connected to a power source, but it is actually good to hear that confirmed!
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
I bought a HTC adaptor for charging & 3.5 headphones etc. Then I thought I'd be clever and save money and use a Nokia N95 TV out cable, but when I plug it in the TP2 sees it as Headphones.
Any ideas of how to get it working?
daveke0201 said:
i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
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I can vouch for this being a good, cheap TV out cable; I bought it and it works well - the USB and 3.5mm jacks also work so you can plug a secondary sound source in or charge / sync it as well as using the TV out functionality.
One 'problem' though: using Core Player without the TV cable, the video playback is smooth as a baby's bum: with the TV out cable, it's slightly choppy. Is this to be expected or does anyone know how to improve video playback through TV cable? If so, it makes a great solution to travelling and being able to bring good TV and films with you on the phone!
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Are there retail component cables available for TV out on an HTC device? If there aren't, is there a work around/DIY solution?VGA/S-Video/possibly HDMI....ANY ideas/ contributions are appreciated!
Seems to me it is a software issue and a cable one. The device can only put out NTSC/PAL. Composite video only requires one wire. Component would need 3. Where would the extra pins come from (in the USB connector)?
Wouldnt higher quality S-video still be possible though?
Not sure if this will work for you guys, but I used the multi-adapter that came with my Touch Pro2 and a 3.5mm jack to composite cable to get TV out from my TP2. Basically, it was a cable that came with my camcorder. I had to remove/cut the blue wire inside the multi-adapter to get it to work. It works automatically without additional software. I found the information from another poster at PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link, but since I'm a noob, this site would not allow me. Good luck. Hope this information helps.
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Not sure if this will work for you guys, but I used the multi-adapter that came with my Touch Pro2 and a 3.5mm jack to composite cable to get TV out from my TP2. Basically, it was a cable that came with my camcorder. I had to remove/cut the blue wire inside the multi-adapter to get it to work. It works automatically without additional software. I found the information from another poster at PPCGeeks.com. I would have provided a link, but since I'm a noob, this site would not allow me. Good luck. Hope this information helps.
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Thanks for your response and yes this does work as I have been using this solution for about two months now and it's "okay" at best...I am still looking for something that would enable at least a "clean" 480p picture with every pixel cleanly represented without all the noise of the composite cables....
I am planning on getting a tv out cable from the following website as soon as my TP2 arrives (hopefully on tuesday):
http://shop.lab88.co.za/pL88OL-61/HTC-TV-Out-for-Pro--Pro-2.aspx
The cable sells for R188.00 approx. $25.00
They are the official importers of HTC devices in my country and their prices are very reasonable.
try sparkfun.com and search for 'extusb'. if you are feeling adventurous like me then go for the cheap one (style 1) otherwise go for the one with the breakout board. either way, its good fun but be prepared for anything. you should have a bit of knowledge on how to solder though. tried it myself and it worked but with all the bare wires hanging out of the video cable it's in a box somewhere in the garage, lol.
sorry about my lack of using the shift key, hehe
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BASSMANBOB said:
Thanks for your response and yes this does work as I have been using this solution for about two months now and it's "okay" at best...I am still looking for something that would enable at least a "clean" 480p picture with every pixel cleanly represented without all the noise of the composite cables....
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I'm not sure if that is possible since the output of the device is not digital. And even with a USB to composite cable, the data will still be in analog. Good luck with your search and please provide an update if you find anything. Thanks.
Im thinking "S-Video" would be achievable, no? Anyone have thoughts?
If you google for "composite-to-s-video" you get lots of little adapters for under $10, so it can obviously be done, but I doubt the video quality can improve. You also see decoders that cost $150.
If you look at the product description here
http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-SVC2-Jack-S-Video-Converter/dp/B0002KR7G8
it actually says the quality won't be better than the original composite.
It's a huge sight, but it is a better question to research over here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/
I think component PAL output is created through hardware, as running video at the absolute highest quality without dropping frames still runs perfect(on the phone) when i click in the video output. if this was done in software then it would slow down the video.(tested with fast moving scenes at really high h264 bitrates in full res so it would be noticable)
The only way i can see it working is if you "somehow" send the screen output over a normal usb connection to an external device which then created the composit output. This would have to be done in software which would be slow and inefficent if it would even be possible at all. If your trying to say... play video at a higher quality then PAL along with software running in the background outputting to said device... well yeah it just wont happen.
What exactly are u trying to do? if its something other then video like presentation u might be able to set up a webserver on the phone(pretty sure there is already software to do this) and take screenshots(software to do this too) and generate webpages in a higher quality that u can see on a computer ect that can plug into a TV
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Im thinking "S-Video" would be achievable, no? Anyone have thoughts?
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it definatly could, get the av to svid adapter from radio shack or somewhere
im going to go out on a limb here and say most people still use tvs with RCA (red yellow white), over HDMI.. my galaxy s1, i can plug in my cord to the red yellow blue in the back of my tv, and into my headphone jack and play movies on my tv.. the galaxy s2 seems to be missing this feature.. is it there somewhere, or is it really gone?! why would they get rid of it.. is it because they added MHL? (something great, but something many wont be able to take advantage of)? i mean its not hurting anything by leaving it there.. it used to be in Settings>Display> TV Out ..why couldnt they just leave both.. they did that everywhere in the phone.. added picture editor and removed adjusting picture in the camera, added video editor and removed ability to pause video while recording.. wtf samsung... ihy
I agree, I wish they had kept both, but I guess it would have required more space and had to go for design reasons.
I disagree. If you can afford a £500 phone I don't think it's unreasonable for Samsung to assume you have a television with HDMI. After all, every TV made in the last 10 years supports the standard. I don't even have anything that outputs over composite cables any more.
For the rest of us, this is a step forward.
I agree with above post. RCA over my 55inch TV would look like crap.
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A better question in that case may be, why launch your flagship device without the cables to enable all the functionality you have advertised.
If you're on a 12 month contract, that feature is obviously not available to you for at least 1/12th of your term.......
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I disagree. If you can afford a £500 phone I don't think it's unreasonable for Samsung to assume you have a television with HDMI. After all, every TV made in the last 10 years supports the standard. I don't even have anything that outputs over composite cables any more.
For the rest of us, this is a step forward.
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Disagree.
Sure, I have an HD television, but I live in NZ and many others don't, so it would be nice to have the option because it offers versatility. Just because your use doesn't need it, doesn't mean that is true for others. Since when does moving forward with HDMI out connections neccessitate the removal of other options? The original GS Tab has both, and since SD Out shares an existing connector its a shame that the legacy connection option isn't available here. I suspect it simply wasn't possible to shoehorn it into the small shell on offer here, but that doesn't mean I can't be disappointed its not present, does it?
Its also far cheaper to get a TV Out cable for the 3.5mm jack, and its available now.
The output doesn't actually look too bad either - check out my youtube channel for some video examples of SGSI SD TV Out.
You can't really expect manufacturers to support all old standards forever. Eventually they just have to be dropped...
You can always use HDMI-to-component converters or something similar.
The official Samsung HDMI adapter doesn't look to be out for quite a while yet but there's one by BizLite over at Mobile Fun that should be in over the next fortnight (website says 9-14 days)
Cheaper than the official one too. Agreed that it's quite annoying having no TV-out on the 3.5mm jack!
rca adapter is nice because then we can hook it up in our cars.. but i guess you guys might not have screens in your car then =/
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rca adapter is nice because then we can hook it up in our cars.. but i guess you guys might not have screens in your car then =/
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Or might that good units have hdmi input anyway, so that's not such a big issue.
Im running royal ginger which comes with the netflix app and im wondering if there is a way to view what i have on the tv. Pretty much like an HDMI cable without the HDMI port on the phone. Is there an adapter or something? I know there is a cable which goes into the headphone jack but i dont know if it will be able to play the movies on the big screen
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I really don't mean to sound like a smartass, but your best bet for Netflix on a TV is a videogame system or blu-ray player that streams Netflix. I just don't think the mobile app is cut out for displaying on another screen. It barely manages to do it on the phone's.
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Have you tried dlna, many newer tvs/ps3/xbox360 support it.
Why not just stream it through your laptop via and HDMI cable? That's what I do, works perfect. Or of course you can do what the guy two posts above me said. I just don't think Netflix on our phone is very practical anyways. Eats battery like crazy and heats up the phone when played too long.
The 4th Derivative said:
Im running royal ginger which comes with the netflix app and im wondering if there is a way to view what i have on the tv. Pretty much like an HDMI cable without the HDMI port on the phone. Is there an adapter or something? I know there is a cable which goes into the headphone jack but i dont know if it will be able to play the movies on the big screen
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Question: Have you ever seen any spec list for our phone mention HDMI out?
the DLNA will only stream content via wifi that is on our SDCard, you cannot stream apps or streaming media.
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Question: Have you ever seen any spec list for our phone mention HDMI out?
the DLNA will only stream content via wifi that is on our SDCard, you cannot stream apps or streaming media.
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i know that the MT4G does not have HDMI, but what I am asking is if there is a way to output the screen onto the tv in a similar fashion as an HDMI. On amazon there is a cable that is designed for this using a 3.5mm headphone jack and it has the red/white/yellow plugs. My tv does not have DLNA and I do not own a blu ray player or gaming device. However I was planning on going to movie trading company or a pawn shop or something to see if there is one available. Which are the best blu ray players? if i cant find one for cheap then I will be buying the cable since it is only $9
That cable will not work with this phone. Our 3.5mm audio jack is for AUDIO only, there is no video coming out of that jack.
The 3.5mm to rca is for (mostly older, like more then 2 years) expandable mobile bluray/dvd players. I know because I have one of these mobile devices.
A standard 3.5mm jack is capable of doing three things, but most of them are only capable of 2 (stereo audio), and a few can only do one (mono audio). In our case, 2 channels are for left and right audio and 1 channel is used for mic input.
If you connect this cable to your television, you will most likely be connecting a port on your phone used for an unpowered microphone to a port on your television waiting to accept a standard def signal.
I wouldn't be surprised if most televisions put out a little tiny bit of power over that port just so it can accept the expected analog signal. My assumption is based on taking the unhooked cable and running your finger over it and watching static on the tv. You shouldn't be surprised if you destroy your phone, or at least the microphone input when you use that cable.
Also when shopping for electronics, using the criteria of "best and cheap" is like saying "yeah, man I totally hooked up with this super hot 400 lb chick"
If you want best, get a samsung or sony or phillips. If you want cheap, go insignia or dynex. If you want not so bad, and somewhat cheaper, look at a visio.
Remember, when dealing with electronics, just because it fits doesn't mean you should stick it in the hole. This might also be good advice when dealing with fat chicks.
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i know that the MT4G does not have HDMI, but what I am asking is if there is a way to output the screen onto the tv in a similar fashion as an HDMI. On amazon there is a cable that is designed for this using a 3.5mm headphone jack and it has the red/white/yellow plugs. My tv does not have DLNA and I do not own a blu ray player or gaming device. However I was planning on going to movie trading company or a pawn shop or something to see if there is one available. Which are the best blu ray players? if i cant find one for cheap then I will be buying the cable since it is only $9
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You cannot DLNA stream NetFlix with our phones. It's [as of right now] impossible. Netlfix doesn't support it, and Twonky doesn't support it. Nor do we have any output of video, the USB jack and the headphone jack do not support HDMI or RCA output as of right now.
If you are wanting a cheap way to watch netflix you can either get a Roku Box, for like 75-80 USD or you can buy a ~125.00 USD blue ray player.
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If you want not so bad, and somewhat cheaper, look at a visio.
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I have a friend with a Visio Blu-Ray player, it's not horrible, but it's not top notch either. I can tell a difference between my PS3 and his Visio. IT would also depend on the quality of the TV the [OP] is dealing with. If it's a 720p or 480p TV the brand will not matter that much. a 60Mhz 1080i or 1080p LCD/Plasma screen possibly. If they have a 1080p 120Mhz + or LED TV you are exactly right.
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You cannot DLNA stream NetFlix with our phones. It's [as of right now] impossible. Netlfix doesn't support it, and Twonky doesn't support it. Nor do we have any output of video, the USB jack and the headphone jack do not support HDMI or RCA output as of right now.
If you are wanting a cheap way to watch netflix you can either get a Roku Box, for like 75-80 USD or you can buy a ~125.00 USD blue ray player.
I have a friend with a Visio Blu-Ray player, it's not horrible, but it's not top notch either. I can tell a difference between my PS3 and his Visio. IT would also depend on the quality of the TV the [OP] is dealing with. If it's a 720p or 480p TV the brand will not matter that much. a 60Mhz 1080i or 1080p LCD/Plasma screen possibly. If they have a 1080p 120Mhz + or LED TV you are exactly right.
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The tv I have is an AOC tv that I found at my grandfathers house. Its got 1 HDMI port and its an HD flatscreen but by looking at it it seems to be either low/mid-range quality or one of the first HD tvs. Im not a tv expert but those are the assumtions I think i can make. I dont want a high-end blu ray player because it will be traveling between dorm/home fairly often but I don't want a crappy one either. Thats why I was going to go buy a used one and hopefully get a quality machine for a low price
Does anyone or has anyone ever used the HDMI cable with their X2 and noticed lag when playing a movie on a tv? I'm trying to watch a 720p HD movie and its lagging on my LCD tv but looks just fine on the phone. I bought the cable with the phone when it first came out and honestly this is the first time i've actually used it.
I got cable from Amazon though it would
be cool to see on big screen.
I connected it once to my 23" LG LED monitor.
The thrill was short lived no lag, picture not
that Impressive. Now I have a $10 shoelace lol.
like video lagging behind the audio? jittery video? wtf do you mean by "lag"?
let's say you run HDMI from the phone to the TV and then plug audio from the headphone jack into a stereo receiver, your audio will be getting to your ears anywhere from 55ms to 500ms before the video hits the screen, that's kinda the nature of all these newfangled flatpanel HDTVs (especially LCDs) there is an inherent delay between the video signal going into the TV vs. when it is actually displayed on the panel.
here's a good test for your TV's "lag" get one of those cheap battery operated atari games (the ones built into a joystick w/ the yellow red and white cables coming out) hook that up to your TV, you'll IMMEDIATELY notice the amount of latency present in your TV.
I think this is probably one case where the phone is not the problem, it's your TV. you can go into the TV's setup menu and look for a "game mode" which basically bypasses extra picture features and filters that for the most part make your picture look like crap.
but, you really need to define what you mean by "lag" 'cause I could be way off in left field here, but mine looks just fine on my panasonic plasma or my samsung LCD monitor when I use an HDMI to DVI adapter, and I've plugged it into all kinds of other displays (I use it as an HDMI signal generator almost everyday at work) granted I rarely watch video on it using the other displays (usually test patterns for projector alignment and calibrating video walls) but whenever I'm in a hotel with a TV that has HDMI, I use it, and it works just as good as my computer does. (but I do always set the TV up properly)
oh, and if you have any of that 120hz/240hz smoothmotion garbage enabled on your TV, turn that crap off.
I have the same problem!
But I have got another mobile i9105p, I know isn't the correct site, but, when I plug my MHL to the TV, the image shows a bit of DELAY, and when I run an application, is more like 500ms to 600ms...
I don't know if the problem is the mobile Broadcom Video core IV, or the MHL adaptar I bought from china.
Greetings.
I posted these questions in AT/T forum but got no answer probs due to lack of consumers actually using the official adaptor, so would love to ask u guys here since im really aiming at using the cable for presentations etc (and spent 50 dollars on it);
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Most TVs default mode is to cut off the borders, I find that odd with HDTV because it's digitial. With the analog TVs they would cut off a little border because the edges of the signal weren't always of the best quality, and it makes the picture look a little "bigger" too. On my Samsung TV there is a "P.Size" button (picture size I presume), and I push that until "screen fit" comes up, which shows the full image. On other TVs I've heard using the HDMI port labeled for PC/laptops will come by default setup to not cut the borders, if it's not labeled that way it's normally the port that shares or is right next to the DVI port.
I have the 1080p display issue with the horrible lag as you've seen. If you come across a solution let me know, because it drives me nuts and some games are basically unplayable which is one of the major reasons I got my MHL adapter. For videos and web it works well enough, since a video isn't interactive you don't notice the delay.
The heating up is probably normal, a phone a very dense compared to a PC and doesn't have fans like a PC has, and I bet the display cloning and charging takes up a bit of power.
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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It seems max output is 1080p30, yet the phone is really nice and smooth on a tv with 720p or 1080i, as it's 60hz. Really annoying that there aren't any settings for the HDMI output to simply select an output resolution!