Does anyone or has anyone ever used the HDMI cable with their X2 and noticed lag when playing a movie on a tv? I'm trying to watch a 720p HD movie and its lagging on my LCD tv but looks just fine on the phone. I bought the cable with the phone when it first came out and honestly this is the first time i've actually used it.
I got cable from Amazon though it would
be cool to see on big screen.
I connected it once to my 23" LG LED monitor.
The thrill was short lived no lag, picture not
that Impressive. Now I have a $10 shoelace lol.
like video lagging behind the audio? jittery video? wtf do you mean by "lag"?
let's say you run HDMI from the phone to the TV and then plug audio from the headphone jack into a stereo receiver, your audio will be getting to your ears anywhere from 55ms to 500ms before the video hits the screen, that's kinda the nature of all these newfangled flatpanel HDTVs (especially LCDs) there is an inherent delay between the video signal going into the TV vs. when it is actually displayed on the panel.
here's a good test for your TV's "lag" get one of those cheap battery operated atari games (the ones built into a joystick w/ the yellow red and white cables coming out) hook that up to your TV, you'll IMMEDIATELY notice the amount of latency present in your TV.
I think this is probably one case where the phone is not the problem, it's your TV. you can go into the TV's setup menu and look for a "game mode" which basically bypasses extra picture features and filters that for the most part make your picture look like crap.
but, you really need to define what you mean by "lag" 'cause I could be way off in left field here, but mine looks just fine on my panasonic plasma or my samsung LCD monitor when I use an HDMI to DVI adapter, and I've plugged it into all kinds of other displays (I use it as an HDMI signal generator almost everyday at work) granted I rarely watch video on it using the other displays (usually test patterns for projector alignment and calibrating video walls) but whenever I'm in a hotel with a TV that has HDMI, I use it, and it works just as good as my computer does. (but I do always set the TV up properly)
oh, and if you have any of that 120hz/240hz smoothmotion garbage enabled on your TV, turn that crap off.
I have the same problem!
But I have got another mobile i9105p, I know isn't the correct site, but, when I plug my MHL to the TV, the image shows a bit of DELAY, and when I run an application, is more like 500ms to 600ms...
I don't know if the problem is the mobile Broadcom Video core IV, or the MHL adaptar I bought from china.
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i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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Search for these kind of cables:
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RGB to VGA
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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I'm with you. I wanted to use a PC monitor for Remote Desktop control of a couple of PCs and servers with the TP2 (as I do with the Athena). Using the TP video out and converter cables will have the cables outweigh the phone by a factor of about 2 to 1.
I believe the output on the Blackstone is composite, not component in which case I don't think that would work.
Although you can get active converters to convert composite video to VGA/RGBHV, there will be a considerable loss of quality, especially in the fine detail. Basically, it will look very blurry.
There's plenty of them on Ebay, search for EXTUSB video , or "Touch pro video"
Yep, bought one of those composite/VGA converter boxes and can definitely confirm the loss of quality/bluriness. Also too bulky to carry around conveniently and requires a power supply. Hooked my Archos up yesterday (TP2 arrived today...!) just to remind myself, as it has the same screen res and also outputs via composite and apart from it being blurry, the image also flickers, which is quite annoying. Hadn't really noticed it before, cause it's not that noticable when watching video, but when viewing text or a presentation, that would be seriously off-putting! May just be my converter box, but thinking about the conversions the signal has to go through, I can't belive other converters are going to be much better.
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"Reqiures powersupply" ?
I cannot remeber that I used power supply with it, but yes, it does have a power-supply connector to allow charging while using tv-out.
Appologies, I was posting without properly referencing the post I was replying to.
I was relpying to crypticalpha's post, regarding composite to VGA converters. My converter box requires a powersupply in order to output a picture on the monitor/projector, else you can only get sound.
Since I have not yet held my TP2 in my hands, nor owned the TP1, I cannot comment on its TV out functionality.
I had assumed the phone itself would not be required to be connected to a power source, but it is actually good to hear that confirmed!
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
I bought a HTC adaptor for charging & 3.5 headphones etc. Then I thought I'd be clever and save money and use a Nokia N95 TV out cable, but when I plug it in the TP2 sees it as Headphones.
Any ideas of how to get it working?
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
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I can vouch for this being a good, cheap TV out cable; I bought it and it works well - the USB and 3.5mm jacks also work so you can plug a secondary sound source in or charge / sync it as well as using the TV out functionality.
One 'problem' though: using Core Player without the TV cable, the video playback is smooth as a baby's bum: with the TV out cable, it's slightly choppy. Is this to be expected or does anyone know how to improve video playback through TV cable? If so, it makes a great solution to travelling and being able to bring good TV and films with you on the phone!
Im running royal ginger which comes with the netflix app and im wondering if there is a way to view what i have on the tv. Pretty much like an HDMI cable without the HDMI port on the phone. Is there an adapter or something? I know there is a cable which goes into the headphone jack but i dont know if it will be able to play the movies on the big screen
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I really don't mean to sound like a smartass, but your best bet for Netflix on a TV is a videogame system or blu-ray player that streams Netflix. I just don't think the mobile app is cut out for displaying on another screen. It barely manages to do it on the phone's.
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Have you tried dlna, many newer tvs/ps3/xbox360 support it.
Why not just stream it through your laptop via and HDMI cable? That's what I do, works perfect. Or of course you can do what the guy two posts above me said. I just don't think Netflix on our phone is very practical anyways. Eats battery like crazy and heats up the phone when played too long.
The 4th Derivative said:
Im running royal ginger which comes with the netflix app and im wondering if there is a way to view what i have on the tv. Pretty much like an HDMI cable without the HDMI port on the phone. Is there an adapter or something? I know there is a cable which goes into the headphone jack but i dont know if it will be able to play the movies on the big screen
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Question: Have you ever seen any spec list for our phone mention HDMI out?
the DLNA will only stream content via wifi that is on our SDCard, you cannot stream apps or streaming media.
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Question: Have you ever seen any spec list for our phone mention HDMI out?
the DLNA will only stream content via wifi that is on our SDCard, you cannot stream apps or streaming media.
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i know that the MT4G does not have HDMI, but what I am asking is if there is a way to output the screen onto the tv in a similar fashion as an HDMI. On amazon there is a cable that is designed for this using a 3.5mm headphone jack and it has the red/white/yellow plugs. My tv does not have DLNA and I do not own a blu ray player or gaming device. However I was planning on going to movie trading company or a pawn shop or something to see if there is one available. Which are the best blu ray players? if i cant find one for cheap then I will be buying the cable since it is only $9
That cable will not work with this phone. Our 3.5mm audio jack is for AUDIO only, there is no video coming out of that jack.
The 3.5mm to rca is for (mostly older, like more then 2 years) expandable mobile bluray/dvd players. I know because I have one of these mobile devices.
A standard 3.5mm jack is capable of doing three things, but most of them are only capable of 2 (stereo audio), and a few can only do one (mono audio). In our case, 2 channels are for left and right audio and 1 channel is used for mic input.
If you connect this cable to your television, you will most likely be connecting a port on your phone used for an unpowered microphone to a port on your television waiting to accept a standard def signal.
I wouldn't be surprised if most televisions put out a little tiny bit of power over that port just so it can accept the expected analog signal. My assumption is based on taking the unhooked cable and running your finger over it and watching static on the tv. You shouldn't be surprised if you destroy your phone, or at least the microphone input when you use that cable.
Also when shopping for electronics, using the criteria of "best and cheap" is like saying "yeah, man I totally hooked up with this super hot 400 lb chick"
If you want best, get a samsung or sony or phillips. If you want cheap, go insignia or dynex. If you want not so bad, and somewhat cheaper, look at a visio.
Remember, when dealing with electronics, just because it fits doesn't mean you should stick it in the hole. This might also be good advice when dealing with fat chicks.
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i know that the MT4G does not have HDMI, but what I am asking is if there is a way to output the screen onto the tv in a similar fashion as an HDMI. On amazon there is a cable that is designed for this using a 3.5mm headphone jack and it has the red/white/yellow plugs. My tv does not have DLNA and I do not own a blu ray player or gaming device. However I was planning on going to movie trading company or a pawn shop or something to see if there is one available. Which are the best blu ray players? if i cant find one for cheap then I will be buying the cable since it is only $9
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You cannot DLNA stream NetFlix with our phones. It's [as of right now] impossible. Netlfix doesn't support it, and Twonky doesn't support it. Nor do we have any output of video, the USB jack and the headphone jack do not support HDMI or RCA output as of right now.
If you are wanting a cheap way to watch netflix you can either get a Roku Box, for like 75-80 USD or you can buy a ~125.00 USD blue ray player.
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If you want not so bad, and somewhat cheaper, look at a visio.
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I have a friend with a Visio Blu-Ray player, it's not horrible, but it's not top notch either. I can tell a difference between my PS3 and his Visio. IT would also depend on the quality of the TV the [OP] is dealing with. If it's a 720p or 480p TV the brand will not matter that much. a 60Mhz 1080i or 1080p LCD/Plasma screen possibly. If they have a 1080p 120Mhz + or LED TV you are exactly right.
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You cannot DLNA stream NetFlix with our phones. It's [as of right now] impossible. Netlfix doesn't support it, and Twonky doesn't support it. Nor do we have any output of video, the USB jack and the headphone jack do not support HDMI or RCA output as of right now.
If you are wanting a cheap way to watch netflix you can either get a Roku Box, for like 75-80 USD or you can buy a ~125.00 USD blue ray player.
I have a friend with a Visio Blu-Ray player, it's not horrible, but it's not top notch either. I can tell a difference between my PS3 and his Visio. IT would also depend on the quality of the TV the [OP] is dealing with. If it's a 720p or 480p TV the brand will not matter that much. a 60Mhz 1080i or 1080p LCD/Plasma screen possibly. If they have a 1080p 120Mhz + or LED TV you are exactly right.
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The tv I have is an AOC tv that I found at my grandfathers house. Its got 1 HDMI port and its an HD flatscreen but by looking at it it seems to be either low/mid-range quality or one of the first HD tvs. Im not a tv expert but those are the assumtions I think i can make. I dont want a high-end blu ray player because it will be traveling between dorm/home fairly often but I don't want a crappy one either. Thats why I was going to go buy a used one and hopefully get a quality machine for a low price
I got my mhl addapter but it is not working correctly. I hook the addapter to the hdmi cable then hook the power using the cable and power supply that came with the phone and finally connect to the phone. I do hear a beep and see the phone charging so i know the power connection is good. Most of the time i dont get anything at all in the monitor, sometimes all i get is a flashing of the screen as if a signal is coming and going and in a handful of instances it had work but it would play video very chopy at both the hdtv and the phone screen, like a frame every 3 seconds. I try my larger hdtv and exibit the same behavior execpt that i never got it to work. I realize the addapter migth be defective but in the other hand i might be doing something wrong. The videos i tried both works fine in the phone by itself. One is off youtube and one is a movie saved in the sd card.
Thanks!
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I got my mhl addapter but it is not working correctly. I hook the addapter to the hdmi cable then hook the power using the cable and power supply that came with the phone and finally connect to the phone. I do hear a beep and see the phone charging so i know the power connection is good. Most of the time i dont get anything at all in the monitor, sometimes all i get is a flashing of the screen as if a signal is coming and going and in a handful of instances it had work but it would play video very chopy at both the hdtv and the phone screen, like a frame every 3 seconds. I try my larger hdtv and exibit the same behavior execpt that i never got it to work. I realize the addapter migth be defective but in the other hand i might be doing something wrong. The videos i tried both works fine in the phone by itself. One is off youtube and one is a movie saved in the sd card.
Thanks!
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I have trouble getting mine to connect to my monitor. It takes me many tries but when I finally get it to work I don't have choppy video like you are talking about...everything runs smooth.
You have debugging off, correct? Other than that it may be your adapter as mine has yet to give me a problem on any TV
The debugging set to on was causijg the lag in the video. Thanks. After i got that out of the way i played with it more and realized the reason i dont get video has to do with the usb cable. I can play with it and if i put pressure in an upward direction it works. So i know i do have a defective addapter. I will try other usb cables but this is a good working cable and brand new. Another issue worth to mention is how horrible the video quality is. It looks like real redish, no sharp at all. It reminds me the old time when we only had over the air tv signal and you were getting a signal from a distant station. Is this normal? I wasnt expecting 1080 full hd signal but if this is the way it is supposed to work then maybe i dont need this addapter after all. Anyone care to coment on their video quality?
I tried at work on my pc monitor with a hdmi to dvi adapter. I had no problem getting the adapter to work continuously but video got choppy again even without debuging on... I will do some more testing later...
hate to bump this but if anyone using mhl can chime in and let me know how good/bad is their video quality on a 32 inch (or higher) hd tv I will appreciate it much. If what I saw in mine is the way it is supposed to look then I might as well save my money and watch whatever I am watching in the phone itself....
Thanks!
I'm having the same issues, too. Would like to know if anybody knows how to resolve this.
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hate to bump this but if anyone using mhl can chime in and let me know how good/bad is their video quality on a 32 inch (or higher) hd tv I will appreciate it much. If what I saw in mine is the way it is supposed to look then I might as well save my money and watch whatever I am watching in the phone itself....
Thanks!
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I hook mine up to my 55in LCD every once in a while and the videos play at almost the exact quality as what's on the note's screen. The only difference I've noticed is the picture on my TV isn't as bright as on the note when playing videos.
Mine is good from time to time on a 42" screen, but the sound cuts out sometimes, and occasionally static goes across the screen.
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So I should see good quality... Tonight I tried my work monitor. I hooked a hdmi to dvi adapter to the monitor, hook the hdmi cable to it, then hook the cable to the mhl adapter, hook the power, then hook to the phone... It worked great, the audio was coming out of the phone which I was expecting to have to bluetooth to my pc to use it for audio as you loose your audio feed when going hdmi to dvi. Videos were looking great, no lag in audio, no skipping or anything. I played youtube videos off dolphin, stock browser and the youtube application with no problem. Played different videos just to make sure it was not the content. Then played some of the movies on my sd card. All great. The only issues I would have is at times I lost all video for several seconds (total back screen) and sometimes when I loose video I would get snow. I rearranged my monitor set up since I use dual monitors at work and wanted to have use the dvi connection on the secondary monitor instead of the first. Then I tried one more time to make sure it was all the same before heading and trying at home... It started failing the same way as at my home. Video will play a frame every 2 or 3 seconds, no audio and sometimes not video at all...
I am going to change this adapter, any of you that is having success care to share who did you bought yours from?
Thanks!
OK, no vodeo for me, checking why not.
Applications, settings, location and security, scrool down to find "Disable USB debugging Mode", make sure it is selected.
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Applications, settings, location and security, scrool down to find "Disable USB debugging Mode", make sure it is selected.
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Figured it out prolly while u were typing. LOL
Got video and good sound, works with AnyNET+
Im happy for you. Where did you got yours from? I am expecting anoter adapter tomorrow from a different company and it is also supposed to work with anynet+. The seller that sold me this one just returned my money and told me I did not have to return it so I still have it. Pending if the other adapter does the same or not...
Got the new one today, it does work on both of the hdtvs at home with no problems. Anynet does not seems to work on the 20 some inches tv but It does work for my camcorder. At work it didnt work right until I turn off/on the phone, then it stopped working when I tried again after the phone went idle and I switched the monitor to the pc while I was working a trouble. Now it wont work at work even after a reboot. I get that one frame per every2 seconds problem. I am going from a hdmi cable to a dvi connector but it did worked fine before..
I posted these questions in AT/T forum but got no answer probs due to lack of consumers actually using the official adaptor, so would love to ask u guys here since im really aiming at using the cable for presentations etc (and spent 50 dollars on it);
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Most TVs default mode is to cut off the borders, I find that odd with HDTV because it's digitial. With the analog TVs they would cut off a little border because the edges of the signal weren't always of the best quality, and it makes the picture look a little "bigger" too. On my Samsung TV there is a "P.Size" button (picture size I presume), and I push that until "screen fit" comes up, which shows the full image. On other TVs I've heard using the HDMI port labeled for PC/laptops will come by default setup to not cut the borders, if it's not labeled that way it's normally the port that shares or is right next to the DVI port.
I have the 1080p display issue with the horrible lag as you've seen. If you come across a solution let me know, because it drives me nuts and some games are basically unplayable which is one of the major reasons I got my MHL adapter. For videos and web it works well enough, since a video isn't interactive you don't notice the delay.
The heating up is probably normal, a phone a very dense compared to a PC and doesn't have fans like a PC has, and I bet the display cloning and charging takes up a bit of power.
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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It seems max output is 1080p30, yet the phone is really nice and smooth on a tv with 720p or 1080i, as it's 60hz. Really annoying that there aren't any settings for the HDMI output to simply select an output resolution!
This seems to be a very odd bug. If I connect the tablet to a 720p Sony Bravia TV, it falls back to 480p only, which looks awful. However, if I connect it to another Samsung TV, also 720p only, it outputs in HD just fine. This happens when using same good quality Motorola cable.
Is there any way I can force the Nexus to output in 720p? I'm sure the TV and cable support it. Or is there any other workaround?
actually whats even more weird is that I thought its supposed to output to 1080p. but I haven't checked myself.
It does output at 1080p but the OP's TV is only 720p.
To the OP: I don't believe that there is a way to force the output resolution but try looking on the TV end in the settings.
Funny, I have the same exact issue with the same exact TV. Sony Bravia 46" 720p TV. It's a pretty old TV compared to today's standards.
It only outputs to 480p, and the TV has absolutely no overscan settings. It looks like crap. It works fine on my ASUS 24" computer monitor, as well as a brand new Vizio 60" 1080p TV.
Then again, I also have overscan issues with this TV when outputting my laptop to it via HDMI. Maybe it's just too old. :crying:
After seeing this post I remembered I had a HDMI cable from my Motoroloa xt720 (great phone) so dug it out, plugged it in and it works perfectly, 1080p, only small issue is a little bit cut off the screen at the top and bottom But this is only half of the status bar and a little bit of the navigation buttons at the bottom. My TV is a 2011 LG47lw45ou. Must be a TV issue. Going slightly off the subject.. after doing this I decided to plug in a wired Xbox controller using an otg cable to see if I could play the games on the tablet through my TV... it worked straight away with onlive, no controller mapping required at all, bonus!
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After seeing this post I remembered I had a HDMI cable from my Motoroloa xt720 (great phone) so dug it out, plugged it in and it works perfectly, 1080p, only small issue is a little bit cut off the screen at the top and bottom But this is only half of the status bar and a little bit of the navigation buttons at the bottom. My TV is a 2011 LG47lw45ou. Must be a TV issue. Going slightly off the subject.. after doing this I decided to plug in a wired Xbox controller using an otg cable to see if I could play the games on the tablet through my TV... it worked straight away with onlive, no controller mapping required at all, bonus!
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Have a look through your picture size modes, you should have an exact scan setting that will display the full screen.