I posted these questions in AT/T forum but got no answer probs due to lack of consumers actually using the official adaptor, so would love to ask u guys here since im really aiming at using the cable for presentations etc (and spent 50 dollars on it);
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Most TVs default mode is to cut off the borders, I find that odd with HDTV because it's digitial. With the analog TVs they would cut off a little border because the edges of the signal weren't always of the best quality, and it makes the picture look a little "bigger" too. On my Samsung TV there is a "P.Size" button (picture size I presume), and I push that until "screen fit" comes up, which shows the full image. On other TVs I've heard using the HDMI port labeled for PC/laptops will come by default setup to not cut the borders, if it's not labeled that way it's normally the port that shares or is right next to the DVI port.
I have the 1080p display issue with the horrible lag as you've seen. If you come across a solution let me know, because it drives me nuts and some games are basically unplayable which is one of the major reasons I got my MHL adapter. For videos and web it works well enough, since a video isn't interactive you don't notice the delay.
The heating up is probably normal, a phone a very dense compared to a PC and doesn't have fans like a PC has, and I bet the display cloning and charging takes up a bit of power.
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
alexx910 said:
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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It seems max output is 1080p30, yet the phone is really nice and smooth on a tv with 720p or 1080i, as it's 60hz. Really annoying that there aren't any settings for the HDMI output to simply select an output resolution!
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i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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Search for these kind of cables:
http://www.nextag.com/Cables-to-Go-25FT-61235427/prices-html?nxtg=28c70a1c052e-34FA18FCC0551E95
RGB to VGA
monkeyturnip said:
i know the TV out isto 3 phono, and can display in Pal or NTSC but it would be useful if there is a VGA one or a good way to do it,
any ideas
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I'm with you. I wanted to use a PC monitor for Remote Desktop control of a couple of PCs and servers with the TP2 (as I do with the Athena). Using the TP video out and converter cables will have the cables outweigh the phone by a factor of about 2 to 1.
I believe the output on the Blackstone is composite, not component in which case I don't think that would work.
Although you can get active converters to convert composite video to VGA/RGBHV, there will be a considerable loss of quality, especially in the fine detail. Basically, it will look very blurry.
There's plenty of them on Ebay, search for EXTUSB video , or "Touch pro video"
Yep, bought one of those composite/VGA converter boxes and can definitely confirm the loss of quality/bluriness. Also too bulky to carry around conveniently and requires a power supply. Hooked my Archos up yesterday (TP2 arrived today...!) just to remind myself, as it has the same screen res and also outputs via composite and apart from it being blurry, the image also flickers, which is quite annoying. Hadn't really noticed it before, cause it's not that noticable when watching video, but when viewing text or a presentation, that would be seriously off-putting! May just be my converter box, but thinking about the conversions the signal has to go through, I can't belive other converters are going to be much better.
BO$$
"Reqiures powersupply" ?
I cannot remeber that I used power supply with it, but yes, it does have a power-supply connector to allow charging while using tv-out.
Appologies, I was posting without properly referencing the post I was replying to.
I was relpying to crypticalpha's post, regarding composite to VGA converters. My converter box requires a powersupply in order to output a picture on the monitor/projector, else you can only get sound.
Since I have not yet held my TP2 in my hands, nor owned the TP1, I cannot comment on its TV out functionality.
I had assumed the phone itself would not be required to be connected to a power source, but it is actually good to hear that confirmed!
Kind Regards
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
I bought a HTC adaptor for charging & 3.5 headphones etc. Then I thought I'd be clever and save money and use a Nokia N95 TV out cable, but when I plug it in the TP2 sees it as Headphones.
Any ideas of how to get it working?
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i think this one does work. and its cheap aswell
http://cgi.benl.ebay.be/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=130310497614
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I can vouch for this being a good, cheap TV out cable; I bought it and it works well - the USB and 3.5mm jacks also work so you can plug a secondary sound source in or charge / sync it as well as using the TV out functionality.
One 'problem' though: using Core Player without the TV cable, the video playback is smooth as a baby's bum: with the TV out cable, it's slightly choppy. Is this to be expected or does anyone know how to improve video playback through TV cable? If so, it makes a great solution to travelling and being able to bring good TV and films with you on the phone!
What are you guys using to play video to your tv? I have the cable but not the dock. As I understand it, it doesn't make a difference in quality?
Is there a certain set-up for the best quality or just go with the Mirroring option that pops up on the phone? With the tv being a better display, I wanted to clarify if mirroring was exact or can the phone output a higher quality than the screen on the phone is capable.
Apps of choice?
Thanks guys!
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What are you guys using to play video to your tv? I have the cable but not the dock. As I understand it, it doesn't make a difference in quality?
Is there a certain set-up for the best quality or just go with the Mirroring option that pops up on the phone? With the tv being a better display, I wanted to clarify if mirroring was exact or can the phone output a higher quality than the screen on the phone is capable.
Apps of choice?
Thanks guys!
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To me same rez when I mirror it I have a 42in and it looks just like the phone does but bigger
I tried with my cable which works for EVO. Gallery and mirror both works in landscape and portrait mode. However, the resolution is the same or even worse than the phone screen. My EVO does better for picture slide show.
The HDMI mirroring uses a resolution of 1280x1024 according to my monitor's "info" box. This is approximately 1280x720 (aka "720p") except in 4:3 aspect ratio. I suspect this is upscaled from the phone display's native resolution though.
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I just purchased an hdmi cable plugged into the back of the tv and to my phone and I am not getting anything except the Motorla symbol. Any suggestions.
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I just purchased an hdmi cable plugged into the back of the tv and to my phone and I am not getting anything except the Motorla symbol. Any suggestions.
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Yeah maybe cable is bad or isn't compatible...my first cable didnt work so i purchased another 6 dollar one from amazon and mirroring works now. Cant figure out how to get sound though.
Does anyone or has anyone ever used the HDMI cable with their X2 and noticed lag when playing a movie on a tv? I'm trying to watch a 720p HD movie and its lagging on my LCD tv but looks just fine on the phone. I bought the cable with the phone when it first came out and honestly this is the first time i've actually used it.
I got cable from Amazon though it would
be cool to see on big screen.
I connected it once to my 23" LG LED monitor.
The thrill was short lived no lag, picture not
that Impressive. Now I have a $10 shoelace lol.
like video lagging behind the audio? jittery video? wtf do you mean by "lag"?
let's say you run HDMI from the phone to the TV and then plug audio from the headphone jack into a stereo receiver, your audio will be getting to your ears anywhere from 55ms to 500ms before the video hits the screen, that's kinda the nature of all these newfangled flatpanel HDTVs (especially LCDs) there is an inherent delay between the video signal going into the TV vs. when it is actually displayed on the panel.
here's a good test for your TV's "lag" get one of those cheap battery operated atari games (the ones built into a joystick w/ the yellow red and white cables coming out) hook that up to your TV, you'll IMMEDIATELY notice the amount of latency present in your TV.
I think this is probably one case where the phone is not the problem, it's your TV. you can go into the TV's setup menu and look for a "game mode" which basically bypasses extra picture features and filters that for the most part make your picture look like crap.
but, you really need to define what you mean by "lag" 'cause I could be way off in left field here, but mine looks just fine on my panasonic plasma or my samsung LCD monitor when I use an HDMI to DVI adapter, and I've plugged it into all kinds of other displays (I use it as an HDMI signal generator almost everyday at work) granted I rarely watch video on it using the other displays (usually test patterns for projector alignment and calibrating video walls) but whenever I'm in a hotel with a TV that has HDMI, I use it, and it works just as good as my computer does. (but I do always set the TV up properly)
oh, and if you have any of that 120hz/240hz smoothmotion garbage enabled on your TV, turn that crap off.
I have the same problem!
But I have got another mobile i9105p, I know isn't the correct site, but, when I plug my MHL to the TV, the image shows a bit of DELAY, and when I run an application, is more like 500ms to 600ms...
I don't know if the problem is the mobile Broadcom Video core IV, or the MHL adaptar I bought from china.
Greetings.
I got my mhl addapter but it is not working correctly. I hook the addapter to the hdmi cable then hook the power using the cable and power supply that came with the phone and finally connect to the phone. I do hear a beep and see the phone charging so i know the power connection is good. Most of the time i dont get anything at all in the monitor, sometimes all i get is a flashing of the screen as if a signal is coming and going and in a handful of instances it had work but it would play video very chopy at both the hdtv and the phone screen, like a frame every 3 seconds. I try my larger hdtv and exibit the same behavior execpt that i never got it to work. I realize the addapter migth be defective but in the other hand i might be doing something wrong. The videos i tried both works fine in the phone by itself. One is off youtube and one is a movie saved in the sd card.
Thanks!
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I got my mhl addapter but it is not working correctly. I hook the addapter to the hdmi cable then hook the power using the cable and power supply that came with the phone and finally connect to the phone. I do hear a beep and see the phone charging so i know the power connection is good. Most of the time i dont get anything at all in the monitor, sometimes all i get is a flashing of the screen as if a signal is coming and going and in a handful of instances it had work but it would play video very chopy at both the hdtv and the phone screen, like a frame every 3 seconds. I try my larger hdtv and exibit the same behavior execpt that i never got it to work. I realize the addapter migth be defective but in the other hand i might be doing something wrong. The videos i tried both works fine in the phone by itself. One is off youtube and one is a movie saved in the sd card.
Thanks!
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I have trouble getting mine to connect to my monitor. It takes me many tries but when I finally get it to work I don't have choppy video like you are talking about...everything runs smooth.
You have debugging off, correct? Other than that it may be your adapter as mine has yet to give me a problem on any TV
The debugging set to on was causijg the lag in the video. Thanks. After i got that out of the way i played with it more and realized the reason i dont get video has to do with the usb cable. I can play with it and if i put pressure in an upward direction it works. So i know i do have a defective addapter. I will try other usb cables but this is a good working cable and brand new. Another issue worth to mention is how horrible the video quality is. It looks like real redish, no sharp at all. It reminds me the old time when we only had over the air tv signal and you were getting a signal from a distant station. Is this normal? I wasnt expecting 1080 full hd signal but if this is the way it is supposed to work then maybe i dont need this addapter after all. Anyone care to coment on their video quality?
I tried at work on my pc monitor with a hdmi to dvi adapter. I had no problem getting the adapter to work continuously but video got choppy again even without debuging on... I will do some more testing later...
hate to bump this but if anyone using mhl can chime in and let me know how good/bad is their video quality on a 32 inch (or higher) hd tv I will appreciate it much. If what I saw in mine is the way it is supposed to look then I might as well save my money and watch whatever I am watching in the phone itself....
Thanks!
I'm having the same issues, too. Would like to know if anybody knows how to resolve this.
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hate to bump this but if anyone using mhl can chime in and let me know how good/bad is their video quality on a 32 inch (or higher) hd tv I will appreciate it much. If what I saw in mine is the way it is supposed to look then I might as well save my money and watch whatever I am watching in the phone itself....
Thanks!
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I hook mine up to my 55in LCD every once in a while and the videos play at almost the exact quality as what's on the note's screen. The only difference I've noticed is the picture on my TV isn't as bright as on the note when playing videos.
Mine is good from time to time on a 42" screen, but the sound cuts out sometimes, and occasionally static goes across the screen.
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So I should see good quality... Tonight I tried my work monitor. I hooked a hdmi to dvi adapter to the monitor, hook the hdmi cable to it, then hook the cable to the mhl adapter, hook the power, then hook to the phone... It worked great, the audio was coming out of the phone which I was expecting to have to bluetooth to my pc to use it for audio as you loose your audio feed when going hdmi to dvi. Videos were looking great, no lag in audio, no skipping or anything. I played youtube videos off dolphin, stock browser and the youtube application with no problem. Played different videos just to make sure it was not the content. Then played some of the movies on my sd card. All great. The only issues I would have is at times I lost all video for several seconds (total back screen) and sometimes when I loose video I would get snow. I rearranged my monitor set up since I use dual monitors at work and wanted to have use the dvi connection on the secondary monitor instead of the first. Then I tried one more time to make sure it was all the same before heading and trying at home... It started failing the same way as at my home. Video will play a frame every 2 or 3 seconds, no audio and sometimes not video at all...
I am going to change this adapter, any of you that is having success care to share who did you bought yours from?
Thanks!
OK, no vodeo for me, checking why not.
Applications, settings, location and security, scrool down to find "Disable USB debugging Mode", make sure it is selected.
Fernandq said:
Applications, settings, location and security, scrool down to find "Disable USB debugging Mode", make sure it is selected.
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Figured it out prolly while u were typing. LOL
Got video and good sound, works with AnyNET+
Im happy for you. Where did you got yours from? I am expecting anoter adapter tomorrow from a different company and it is also supposed to work with anynet+. The seller that sold me this one just returned my money and told me I did not have to return it so I still have it. Pending if the other adapter does the same or not...
Got the new one today, it does work on both of the hdtvs at home with no problems. Anynet does not seems to work on the 20 some inches tv but It does work for my camcorder. At work it didnt work right until I turn off/on the phone, then it stopped working when I tried again after the phone went idle and I switched the monitor to the pc while I was working a trouble. Now it wont work at work even after a reboot. I get that one frame per every2 seconds problem. I am going from a hdmi cable to a dvi connector but it did worked fine before..
Althought the thread title is quite straight, I would like to give up some info (can be used as "valuable experience" for someone else...) regarding MHL interface, wich has really dissapointed me.
I have installed AOKP Jelly Bean ROM (wich I think is the BEST ROM ever, due to its speed, and customizability), and bought an original MHL cable from Samsung, obviously SGh-i777 friendly.
When I plugged the phone to the TV AND to the wall charger, I sat down very enthusiastic in front of my LED screen to see what happens...
But after 4 o 5 hours of staring at the "No signal" sign, I started to think that something was not right.
After a quick check on XDA, I learnt that AOKP nor CM9 are MHL active, so I nearly panicked.... I was time for a ROM change.
Anyway, I contacted one of the AOKP developers asking if was any update on that particular issue, and told me that He wasn't working actively on AOKP for SII anymore, only doing some updates (my cell phone got heart broken...) because the best ROM ever had an Achilles heel.
Now Im using a very nice ROM called Aberration, wich is Touchwiz based (and MHL compatible), with a smooth operation and almost no crashes (only thing I miss is the extreme customizability, but whatever...).
And now, regarding the title, when I plug on the MHL, the TV shows the phone screen (the phone DOES NOT turns to landscape mode) in portrait, wich is look pretty good. But when you try to: play games, stream TV from internet OR watch downloades movies, the quality is veeeeery poor, compared to the laptop HDMI output port (strangely, setting the output in the PC to 720p looks better than 1080p...)
The TV doesnt show how much resolution is getting in the HDMI port, so Im stuck there. Below, the questions:
1) Does YOUR MHL interfaces show a pixelated image on the TV? (Specially on movies...). Mine does, large sized pixels.
2) Can be possible that the phone looks better than the TV?? Im using a 1080p HDMI cable...
3) Is there any way to change MHL output resolution (in the phone) with an app or a custom ROm?
4) It is possible that someone tell me that his/her MHL looks 10 times better than mine and how can I do it??
Thanks A LOT, and I hope you dont have much trouble helping a noob with "Tarzanic" English (from Argentina...)
Kind Regards
I have watched a couple of movies on mine. The first movie was very pixilated. The second movie I watched was fine. I believe the pixilation to have been the quality of the movie file. The only other problem I have is that when I use Netflix it doesn't display on my TV in a 16x9 format. Rather I get two black bars on on the left one on the right of my wide screen while my phone displays in a wide screen.
I hate to post this as I might get flamed for not flashing my phone with a custom rom but I am running a stock SII on 4.0.3.
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I have watched a couple of movies on mine. The first movie was very pixilated. The second movie I watched was fine. I believe the pixilation to have been the quality of the movie file. The only other problem I have is that when I use Netflix it doesn't display on my TV in a 16x9 format. Rather I get two black bars on on the left one on the right of my wide screen while my phone displays in a wide screen.
I hate to post this as I might get flamed for not flashing my phone with a custom rom but I am running a stock SII on 4.0.3.
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Rather than flamed, I would say thank you for being the only answer until now...
Besides, the fact that you are not running a custom ROM is a great reference for me (because if your quality is better than mine, so MHL works better on stock ROM...)
So, putting movies aside for a moment, your overall image quality (for example, gallery) looks in the TV as good as in the phone? Or you can see some differences?
Thk U and regards
It looks much the same as the phone. The phone probably looks a little bit better as the screen is smaller. I would say to try different source files. ie mkv vs xvid, or standard mp4 files to see if the pixilation is different for different formats as apposed to a rom problem before I went flashing different roms.
To answer your question though the screen on my TV doesn't pixilate when doing anything except when running a low quality file. Screen transisition when flipping from one screen to another is a little bit delayed, but looks just as good on the TV as on the phone. Pictures display well.
Thanks!!
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It looks much the same as the phone. The phone probably looks a little bit better as the screen is smaller. I would say to try different source files. ie mkv vs xvid, or standard mp4 files to see if the pixilation is different for different formats as apposed to a rom problem before I went flashing different roms.
To answer your question though the screen on my TV doesn't pixilate when doing anything except when running a low quality file. Screen transisition when flipping from one screen to another is a little bit delayed, but looks just as good on the TV as on the phone. Pictures display well.
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Okey, thanks for the advice. I was testing on streaming content from the web, now I will see how it works on stored files.
Last thought, did you try it with games? I tested a couple of HD games and still looking the same: little pixelation on TV, none on screen (but now I agree with your opinion of smaller screen --> better qualiy).
Kind regards
Never tried it with any games. Pixilation in streaming content could be a network bottleneck. Definitely try locally stored files on the phone and see what you get.
I have an inexpensive MHL adapter I purchased from ebay for my Samsung Galaxy S2 SkyRocket. I found when I stream a movie from the nextflix app to the TV it's very pixelated but streaming the same movie from a laptop with HDMI out gives a much better picture.
Is this an issue with the MHL being inexpensive?
Jamolah said:
I have an inexpensive MHL adapter I purchased from ebay for my Samsung Galaxy S2 SkyRocket. I found when I stream a movie from the nextflix app to the TV it's very pixelated but streaming the same movie from a laptop with HDMI out gives a much better picture.
Is this an issue with the MHL being inexpensive?
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This isn't a skyrocket forum firstly. Secondly don't bump old threads . Go over to the skyrocket forum and they'll be able to help you better. Best of luck
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This isn't a skyrocket forum firstly. Secondly don't bump old threads . Go over to the skyrocket forum and they'll be able to help you better. Best of luck
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Lay off the guy man. He's asking a question related to the topic!
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I don't believe it is your adapter I believe it is the app it's self. When using the Netflix app I get bad quality over my mhl, but if I stream a good quality mkv file the quality displayed on the tv is fine.
The mhl adapter is a digital adapter. 1s and 0s are 1s and 0s this is the same reason not to buy the 100 dollar hdmi cable the sales person at your local electronics store is trying to sell you go for the 3 dollar cable you found on ebay.
At least the guy did some searching and posted in an existing thread and didn't create another thread covering the same topic.
Let's keep in mind he has a skyrocket. Which in the end is a different phone. so when the next sky rocket owner asks a question related to this on Google he'll be led here. Which is NOT the skyrocket forum. And then while he's here he'll flash a ROM, brick his device, and make a new thread. Its a viscous cycle Lol.
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Let's keep in mind he has a skyrocket. Which in the end is a different phone. so when the next sky rocket owner asks a question related to this on Google he'll be led here. Which is NOT the skyrocket forum. And then while he's here he'll flash a ROM, brick his device, and make a new thread. Its a viscous cycle Lol.
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I'm sure the Netflix app has an invisible setting to stream a certain quality depending on screen size. Or maybe all mobile devices have a certain resolution/bit rate, which is probably low enough to look like crap on a larger TV screen.
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