Hello guys!
This forum does not have a section for the Samsung b7610 (OmniaPro). Thus I decided to create this topic to help also the ones who have a b7610 like me .
Every one knows that samsung made the b7610 with basicaly the same hardware as i8000.
Because of this I think of the possibility of crossflashing or even cooking at the same time for both devices without much extra work.
I would you suggest that some kind cook cook also for the b7610 rather than only to the i8000.
I think the kitchen should be the same, with minor variations (such as drivers for the support of the physical keyboard)..
I hope you understand the desperation of the b7610 community since all the chefs are focused on the i8000.
I am willing to help where needed!
I hope that other b7610 owners join me to contribute to our community.
Thanks for your help!
Great
I was hoping someone could come with this idea and I'm happy.
I'm willing to help in any way as my opinion is the same.
I8000 and B7610 are not that much different.
Someone cooking for the b7610 would be great
same here - willing to help & very eager for custom/light roms
Yes!, Please Cook for the B7610...it would be much appreciated!
any additional support would be appreciated from the small omnia pro owning community,it's a great device, but only 1 custom rom to date.
i'm reading and experimenting but dont have the know how to create a new rom yet, but xda has lots of people with the skils to tweak i8000 roms to work on the b7610.
i'm sure the cooks here could produce some fantastic roms -
Yes, I think the same too. Thank you.
Yeah It will be great if someone can cook a rom for us we really need a custom rom without all the samsung junks
many thanks
More and more people own a B7610 because it is for the moment the best what you get for the money. But this samsung junk really sucks.
please
i also have omnia pro and with samsung soft its unusable thanks to mobile shell i dont sell it its mutch better that touch pro 2 (only keyboard its on tp2 better). please somene start cooking roms for this phone. thanks
I am another owner of B7610 and as it was pointed out is a better device than TP2 but i have to say I really miss testing know roms every week.
Samsung B7610 is a very good phone!!
Yes, I agree with you all. Samsung B7610 is great phone in all the aspects apart from its software. I wish if xda pay a little attention to it and add a little section for it in this forum. I am really missing xda roms since I upgraded my phone from HTC P3600.
I also wish if omnia 2 rom cookers could cook something for it. It should be easy for them due to the similar features.
Thanks digao100nocao for arising such a subject.
I completely agree. I´m pretty sure the Samsung Omnia Pro 7610 would actually sell more units if a cook were to adapt the existing ROMs to what users are actually asking for.
Go Cooks Go!
same here !
please go in the kitchen and cook..
b7610 rocks!
yeeeeesss... please make cooked rom for B7610.. i love this phone..
but too much not useful programs like communities, search widget, msn money, msn bing search, msn weather, connected home, and the smartreader that not very smart on reading anything, to many errors on recognizing letters..
and the lag, makes me want to flash a clean WM6.1 ROM.. please do something about it..
there are already some cooked ROMs on http://www.modaco.com/content/b7610-omnia-pro-b7610-modaco-com/295813/b7610-collection-thread/
but i prefer flash ROMs from this forum.. i trust this forum more..
I dream of a custom rom on my omnia pro fabulous
ashadibudi said:
....but i prefer flash ROMs from this forum.. i trust this forum more..
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It's not the point of trusting whoever makes a rom for b7610's....
Here the attentions are draw to HTC's devices... and this section has made a week ago...
Give it time people... A rom isn't made in a minute... (i think )
well. let's see the situation.
there are some roms and cooks for I8000. we know that apart from AES driver for keyboard there should be no difference.
there are some tutorials and kitchens, but no one here has the guts to try.
i suppose the only way out is to open a bounty and ask someone like dr. Khuanchai from Modaco to port some of his roms to B7610.
I would also try to get some connection to sonblack from PDAviet and ask him what he can do.
that's my 2 cents on the issue.
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I have searched the forum, but I found some people saying I can do that. Some said the FUZE has different hardware and cannot be flashed into HTC official firmware. Which is the correct answer?
If I really can, what else should I beware of? Any thing will not work after the flash?
Thanks.
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
crlowryjr said:
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
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I agree with Rob - Why would you want to? Unless say you are modding it to include the front facing camera and want the rom to be able to take advantage of that. Other wise you will have to jump through hoops just to get it to work.
crlowryjr said:
Yes you can...
For starters your keyboard mapping will be wrong, but that is easily fixed by any number of CABs you can find in the forum. You also won't have any of the AT&T special apps.
I guess the real question is "why"?
If you're going to go through the effort of flashing, it makes much more sense to flash in one of the cooked ROMs that offer more features.
---Rob
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Because the original HTC rom is thoroughly tested and, HTC did make it since they made the hardware i believe they know the best software for it as well.
No offense to the cooks and all but I have not come across a faster, smoother, bug-free rom than the "Asia Build 20764" released on march 16th.
Even though I like the cool look aof the custom roms thereis no competing with the performance of the original HTC roms.
I agree with Stalix. I personally just prefer the official HTC firmware. Apparently, HTC know their hardware and have working with their software in this field for long, they should have a more stable firmware. And I personally hate to see at&t logos in my phone.(does FUZE have those logos?)
Same idea when I install my PC, I would install Microsoft official version not those modded version. They may have bug or viruses due to their experience of modding.
So on the forum what kid of key word means it's official HTC firmware? I have seen hundreds of firmware here.
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I agree with Stalix. I personally just prefer the official HTC firmware. Apparently, HTC know their hardware and have working with their software in this field for long, they should have a more stable firmware. And I personally hate to see at&t logos in my phone.(does FUZE have those logos?)
Same idea when I install my PC, I would install Microsoft official version not those modded version. They may have bug or viruses due to their experience of modding.
So on the forum what kid of key word means it's official HTC firmware? I have seen hundreds of firmware here.
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They also do not turn on certain features. Take a look at all the power management features you can turn on with Advance Config. They skip out on a lot stuff so then they do not have to support it. If you have more things to support then you need a bigger support staff which is more money out the door for them...A ROM (like mine) based on an official release can be much more faster, stable and more enjoyable than a OEM ROM. Look at the TytN II...it can use the YouTube app fine but why do they not include it...
At0mAng said:
Look at the TytN II...
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Let's recall that approx 10 months ago, the big breakthrough in this community for stable reliable 6.1 TytN II ROMs, was the release in May of 6.1 WWE by HTC. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Nothing wrong with checking out (or using) the stock releases...
How can I revert cooked ROMs back to OEM HTC ROM?
thanks
I have done the flash!
Yeah I have done the flash to my fuze and the UK rom is the best way to go. I love the boot screen saying Touch Pro! You will definitely need the keyboard fix as stated earlier. You will need to find a UK serial so you can grab the rom. There is one in the xda archive. Also, get a calculator cab because the stock one is not always the best. They are also on here. When flashing the HTC rom it will take a couple of more minutes than the others. Mine was stuck on 11% for a 2 minutes. But it will complete beautifully. So also It is very stable. Let me know how you like it.
US 3G Effected?
shokouhi said:
Yeah I have done the flash to my fuze and the UK rom is the best way to go. I love the boot screen saying Touch Pro! You will definitely need the keyboard fix as stated earlier. You will need to find a UK serial so you can grab the rom. There is one in the xda archive. Also, get a calculator cab because the stock one is not always the best. They are also on here. When flashing the HTC rom it will take a couple of more minutes than the others. Mine was stuck on 11% for a 2 minutes. But it will complete beautifully. So also It is very stable. Let me know how you like it.
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When you did the UK Rom on your Fuze, did you loose the US 3G settings?
xboomer55 said:
Let's recall that approx 10 months ago, the big breakthrough in this community for stable reliable 6.1 TytN II ROMs, was the release in May of 6.1 WWE by HTC. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
Nothing wrong with checking out (or using) the stock releases...
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Yea but you have to also realize that all "cooked ROMs" are based off an official build in the first place.
Take a look at the ROMs available now for the KAISER; they are much better and much improved as developers are able to port updated applications to older devices, improving their performance, and functionality.
If HTC Software was so great, developers wouldnt be looking at other 3D drivers from devices such as the Omnia or the ATI 3D drivers, to improve their devices.
EDIT: To answer the original thread makers question, yes you can flash an HTC ROM to your Fuze provided you have HARDSPL'd your device first. The only thing you would need to change is the keyboard mapping which can be done by a .CAB
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Yea but you have to also realize that all "cooked ROMs" are based off an official build in the first place.
Take a look at the ROMs available now for the KAISER; they are much better and much improved as developers are able to port updated applications to older devices, improving their performance, and functionality.
If HTC Software was so great, developers wouldnt be looking at other 3D drivers from devices such as the Omnia or the ATI 3D drivers, to improve their devices.
EDIT: To answer the original thread makers question, yes you can flash an HTC ROM to your Fuze provided you have HARDSPL'd your device first. The only thing you would need to change is the keyboard mapping which can be done by a .CAB
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This. HTC might "know thier hardware" but that's exactly why you take their official ROM and modify it. Then I have my Fuze settings without running keyboard customization, better apps and tools that aren't in the official ROM, and tweaks to make it even faster. Best of both worlds.
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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so where would a 'newb' go to find a nice stock rom that isnt cooked? seems like all the roms here are cooked to some extent or another.
No worries with flashing Touch PRO HTC roms or cooked roms on the ATT Fuze
I am currently using WM6.5 for the Touch PRO on an unlocked Fuze with a Canadian 3G provider with ZERO problems !
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so where would a 'newb' go to find a nice stock rom that isnt cooked? seems like all the roms here are cooked to some extent or another.
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go to the Raphael Wiki page and will link you to the proper page for download
3g settings and link!
First off the rom for official download will be found at the following:
www.htc.com/europe
Then you will need the UK S/N code which is as follows:
HT833K018918
This was in the archive much props to who uploaded it however I will repost it as to the fact it was not easy to find. This will give you the UK rom! I love the video that plays at the beginning! It is great with battery life as well! So then grab your fuze keyboard fix and it is as if it were always a touch pro!!
Cheers and enjoy!
Sandman!
paypalbid said:
i dont deal with cook Roms anymore, I got out of that business since the MDA Wizard.
Since then I have owned the Treo 750, ATT 8525, HTC TYNT II, and now the FUZE (touch Pro) and I have sticked to official release ROMS.
Its a personal choice really. I have had great experiences with Official Roms and I can do all the tweaks and add all the cabs my self.
So sad to see this Fuze forum flooded with so many cook ROMS. Everybody wants to be a Chef these days. I just feel bad for all the new bees coming in here and can't even decide which ROM to use
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Well it is a ROM DEVELOPMENT forum. Having choices is kinda the point since which ROM to use is personal preference. Personally, since UC works well, I change between them quite a bit.
I wanted to tell you guys that you're all amazing!
I "escaped" the WM world only just 1 year ago when I sold my Prophet (which I had tenderly customized for many many years from the old WM5 days) when my work gave me a blackberry pearl.
Even though I've since ditched the blackberry and now have an iPhone 3G, my fondest memories still come from all the ROM hacking and slashing that was going on here... I could flash a rom and reinstall all my apps(and I had a lot!) and restore all the data within 2-3 hours... This included all the Registry edits, activesync connections, etc....
One of my biggest issues with all the custom ROMs I had tried over the years was always "consistency in UI". I don't mind the fact that the device was slow, or maybe A2DP wasn't working... but the different user interfaces that resulted in a custom ROM always bugged me. Adding the fact that WM was such an open book didn't help.
It's *very* impressive to see now that all the roms now have similar colour themes that extend into the main OS, matching keyboards, dialers, calculators, comm managers etc etc etc.... If you guys were doing what you're doing now a year ago, I certainly would not have sold my Prophet and who knows... Maybe I wouldn't even have my iPhone right now...
Even though I no longer have a WM device, I just want to say thanks to all the modders and chefs on this board for all the help and advice. Whenever someone asks me about what phone to get, I always recommend a WM device *BECAUSE* of xda-developers and you guys... You're seriously the single best thing that the WM world has right now. I think everyone would agree that WM would be a steaming pile of poo if xda-devs wasn't around.
Keep up the AMAZING work!
Agreed!!
I am also one of you, enjoying the free fruits from XDA......
Salute to all.
dioxda2 said:
I am also one of you, enjoying the free fruits from XDA......
Salute to all.
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Hey dioxda2 i think he meant you as well when he was saying thanks, if it wasn't for you i wouldn't have been inspired to start learning to cook so big yourself up my friend
there are lots of BIG NAMES in this FORUM that helped a lot for other non hardcore techie like me... you know who you are and i dont need to mention them ehem ehem
CONGRATS AND BIG THANKS TO ALL!!!
"... Whenever someone asks me about what phone to get, I always recommend a WM device *BECAUSE* of xda-developers and you guys... You're seriously the single best thing that the WM world has right now. I think everyone would agree that WM would be a steaming pile of poo if xda-devs wasn't around...."
That's absolutely right, Brothers.
Ancient gods of Prophet: Cloudyfa, Gullum, l3v5y, Korand, ... with the grandmasters Lamson and Hoang An, ...
The prophets of Prophet: Varanusvincent, Maxniper, Dioxda2, Animelover, inteks, ...
3rd Generation masters of Prophet: legedug, maxwellr, et al ...
And the present warriors of Prophet: dudeXX, wapvirus, bikertibi, et al. ...
Thanks to you all. You really make our Prophets and all WM devices alive and have a longer life.
Salute to you all.
Who's your favorite chef? What rom are you running, and why do you like them?
Energy ROM Leo edition
Roms with the new WM (for exapmle WM 6.5.3)
And i use them because he is a man, he knows what he's doing, stable fast smooth ROMs and when he made some mistake he repared it
Monx, without question
Vote for your favorite Chef
There is a link in my sig to a site where you can vote for your favorite chef!
Not exactly a chef but, as far as I can tell, without Itsme's tools created long ago we wouldn't have much of anything here. He doesn't get credited much here and I think he deserves it.
And he's still writing tools sometimes:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/
Shep by far is the man! His ROM is 99.99% bugfree IMO. always willing to help when there questions that needs answering
I use EnergyROM exclusivly. NRGZ28 is the master of the ROMs as far as I'm concerned. The reason I like his ROMS are because of the smooth UI, and the enhanced performance of the phone. Battery life isn't a problem for me, because I have a 3000mAh battery installed in my phone. I am currently running biuld 28005 Pheonix.
IMHO,
I like ALL the chefs and ALL the ROM's they produce.
What's nice with liking ALL the chefs and ALL the ROM's they produce is that it doesn't instill a sense of rivalry amonst them; as each chef spends countless hours preparing the new ROM's for members to use. And as most devotees can attest, each ROM has really nice features that the chef likes and feels a member will like.
Thumbs up to all chefs who contibute their time and effort!
Thread closed.
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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Hi Bardok, I'm not very happy you wanted me to be shot, I made a couple of roms an as far as I can remember I didn't get any feedback from you.
So if you have guts try my rom or leave the forum and go playing with your Iphone.
Hope you make the right choice.
Regards and have fun.
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Hi Bardok, I'm not very happy you wanted me to be shot, I made a couple of roms an as far as I can remember I didn't get any feedback from you.
So if you have guts try my rom or leave the forum and go playing with your Iphone.
Hope you make the right choice.
Regards and have fun.
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lol how cheeky are some people!! 5 posts since joining in 2009 and the nerve to start demanding people be shot.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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I think i found your dummy over by the door.
Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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Total disagree.... Ive not seen any roms make by you..instead of running off make one and see if you can do better..
Ive tryed and its hard but with the help of this forum im getting there...
i have the up most respect to all the cookers out there weather its for the touch dual or the g1 (G1 died but the touch dual is better)
To take time out of there lifes to make my phone a little bit better Thank you all.
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Bardok said:
I have to say that the rest of the guy's on the Touch Dual board really suck.
All these wanabee rom cookers and beta tester abusers need to be shot.
DON'T POST UNTIL IT WORKS, OR SAY IT IS JUST AN BETA WHEN IT ISN'T!
RESPECT THE PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD!! ALSO TESTERS!
Wasted a lot of time on these defective rom's.
monx® you suck for not supporting use here!
No wonder everybody deserts WinMo in favor of the iphone! I hope you developers choke in your abuse, you are the ones that kiled windows mobile.
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For update your iphone, you need to paid.
Here, they are old phone running first in winmo5 and now in winmo6.5.3 (why not in winmo7) And all for "FREE" (donation is better)
Thanks For ALL XDA Dev
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Wasted a lot of time
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Yeah, me 2! But isn't that what it's all about here? If we wanted just a phone to, well, make phone calls and stuff like that we would probably all be better off using some stock phone.
Most people here develop/flash/test/play for fun, because they are bored and because they can, after all the forums name has a 'developer' in it, not a 'user'. So if you expected some kind of 24/7 tech support here, well that is the wrong forum here, sorry. This also isn't supposed as a free 'make my phone flashy, shiny and new' service. Sure it's fun to check out some new stuff on your old touch dual, but to be honest, if you expect a release from one of our (very able) cooks, where everything works at first shot, well, the guys at htc are not that good either. If you dislike winmo, go buy yourself another toy, but don't waste everyones time here flaming around.
Bye bye
I don't think he isn't that wrong at all. A ROM needs to work, period.
It's the core of you device where all your other stuff runs on. Most of us use our device trough the day, not just in emulators.
Its very important that it works before you roll it out to the public. If you want beta testers, then say so and don't just drop it on the users and leave.
People will not come back! And a lot of new users don't know what the forum is about. but they are WM users.
@ mblaster: I am here too, I am not bored at all.
Sure the forums says 'Developers' and not 'Tinker-bells', but most of the developers here are 'Real Pro's', they develop for the real world, not just to tinker of boredom. They have an plan, and make great thing that works. You will find there stuff on new released devices all over, including the iPhone!
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I say this again, a ROM is the core of your device where other software runs in/on.
Its not an piece of software like an games you just install.
ROM development is a lot of work, its not just switching some graphics and putting in some already-applications an not care about the rest. It is an art and an profession, and real cook is an master of devices
I think what Bardof means is that the quality-of-service needs to go up again, not the volume of ROM's, even on the new devices.
An ROM that doesn't work right, gives a bad taste to the Windows Mobile platform. We all know the effects..
I love this forum and WM, I have been in and out sinds the release of the MDA, it think needs to grow in quality, not shrink.
Where is the poll option "Complete Disagree!" ???
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I don't think he isn't that wrong at all. A ROM needs to work, period.
It's the core of you device where all your other stuff runs on. Most of us use our device trough the day, not just in emulators.
Its very important that it works before you roll it out to the public. If you want beta testers, then say so and don't just drop it on the users and leave.
People will not come back! And a lot of new users don't know what the forum is about. but they are WM users.
@ mblaster: I am here too, I am not bored at all.
Sure the forums says 'Developers' and not 'Tinker-bells', but most of the developers here are 'Real Pro's', they develop for the real world, not just to tinker of boredom. They have an plan, and make great thing that works. You will find there stuff on new released devices all over, including the iPhone!
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I say this again, a ROM is the core of your device where other software runs in/on.
Its not an piece of software like an games you just install.
ROM development is a lot of work, its not just switching some graphics and putting in some already-applications an not care about the rest. It is an art and an profession, and real cook is an master of devices
I think what Bardof means is that the quality-of-service needs to go up again, not the volume of ROM's, even on the new devices.
An ROM that doesn't work right, gives a bad taste to the Windows Mobile platform. We all know the effects..
I love this forum and WM, I have been in and out sinds the release of the MDA, it think needs to grow in quality, not shrink.
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I agree with the most of what you are saying. I haven't been replying on most of the posts on this forum but I've been reading a lot and testing a lot of ROMS, and it's a shame that only few of them work OK. Always need to install this and that CAB to get your phone working.
But....I know that cooking a ROM isn't that easy and it can take a lot of work and many of the good cookers don't get the respect they should, or help.
Hi guys! How are u opt brothers?
As title says I'd like to ear ur opinion on what is happening on modders comunity around opt, I'll try to say my ideas but please... Excuse my English I won't post in Italian just because translators dsnt make good work with my language hehe
I opened this post because I really don't understand what's happening and what will happen to us, I came from just 2 other phones, HTC hd2 and galaxy s4,both kept for 3 years
I know those were phones who had a big success in therm of selling numbers and had a big, very big, work here on xda since the firsts days, many kernels many roms, many new ideas on add-ons and so on
I don't see the same enthusiasm here in opt section, there are various very good modders, just thinking about boeffla (great work bro!) and ak who sold his opt and won't continue his awesome work.
I think we are paying the lack of big sells, they opened very soon the free purchase without invites I really hope this will change something but there are too many competitors right now
I have to say the few roms that still recives updates are awesome, with some problems I know... But I see the work behind the scenes and it's great, also see some modders working on cm13 and his recovery, but lack of cm kernels is heavy and I don't know if, with marshmallow, there will be a revamp on comunity (maybe all coders are just waiting for M to start working)
Those are my ideas, I'd really like to see ur opinions and maybe tell me I'm completely wrong, I really hope it!! Hehehe