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Every once in awhile, some chatter will be thrown around about possible HTC fixes (http://www.phonenews.com/htc-says-update-still-coming-nothing-else-3369/) and/or gutted ROMs (http://htcclassaction.org/#update_20080403_2).
So... does anyone have *any* information about the HTC video acceleration problems?
i think at this point its realistic to say that if you want video acceleration, you need to buy another $500 device made by somebody else. I predict HTC puts this off until affected hardware is end-of-life. My rant is off topic now, but in that case, my next device wont be HTC.
Ummm, so how am I going to watch my pron..... lol
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So... does anyone have *any* information about the HTC video acceleration problems?
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Beyond the *problem* of not using the MS Media Player and substituting video playback with TCPMP (or another) set with the the video driver to GDI/RAW, what is the great issue? Even with direct draw drivers, I will still use TCPMP and its video playback is already exceptionally smooth as it is.
Screen redraw on the Today screen and other similar levels isn't out of line from what I've experienced on non-HTC WM/CE devices.
Sorry, but I'm still stumped on what is truly owed to us by HTC and -- more on topic for this forum -- the critical flaws that are inherent in the Titan.
Hopefully, they include support in the Raphael/Diamond. Who knows, maybe it can even be back-ported to our Moguls.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387556
Supposedly, there will be a forthcoming update that will at least improve the video on our phones, but likely not drivers.
http://www.phonenews.com/htc-says-update-still-coming-nothing-else-3369/
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Beyond the *problem* of not using the MS Media Player and substituting video playback with TCPMP (or another) set with the the video driver to GDI/RAW, what is the great issue? Even with direct draw drivers, I will still use TCPMP and its video playback is already exceptionally smooth as it is.
Screen redraw on the Today screen and other similar levels isn't out of line from what I've experienced on non-HTC WM/CE devices.
Sorry, but I'm still stumped on what is truly owed to us by HTC and -- more on topic for this forum -- the critical flaws that are inherent in the Titan.
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Go into the "Programs" folder, and scroll up and down a bit... The same thing happens with any "redrawing" of the screen which makes certain programs just run crappy. My *main* complaint that *actually* gets in my way, though, is the delay in rotating the screen. I typically don't use the hardware keyboard for exactly this reason. I would rather use the stylus and the on-screen keyboard than wait for 5-10 seconds while I wait for the screen to redraw.
It's more to the point to say that it underperforms (again... scroll up and down on that program screen) in comparison to *older* devices. There are some Youtube examples out there that are easy to see. It's just not the performance that matches the pricetag.
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Go into the "Programs" folder, and scroll up and down a bit... The same thing happens with any "redrawing" of the screen which makes certain programs just run crappy. My *main* complaint that *actually* gets in my way, though, is the delay in rotating the screen. I typically don't use the hardware keyboard for exactly this reason. I would rather use the stylus and the on-screen keyboard than wait for 5-10 seconds while I wait for the screen to redraw.
It's more to the point to say that it underperforms (again... scroll up and down on that program screen) in comparison to *older* devices. There are some Youtube examples out there that are easy to see. It's just not the performance that matches the pricetag.
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I don't know what you have done to your Mogul, but mine switches from landscape to portrait (or vice versa) faster than I could press a stopwatch button twice. The scrolling in File Explorer, dragging the stylus down the scroll bar, is instantaneous. I am running the stock Sprint 3.35 package. The only time I see terribly slow response is when the Mogul is connected to my PC and syncing...then it is glacial. But I do not usually use it when it is syncing so that has not been a problem.
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I don't know what you have done to your Mogul, but mine switches from landscape to portrait (or vice versa) faster than I could press a stopwatch button twice. The scrolling in File Explorer, dragging the stylus down the scroll bar, is instantaneous. I am running the stock Sprint 3.35 package. The only time I see terribly slow response is when the Mogul is connected to my PC and syncing...then it is glacial. But I do not usually use it when it is syncing so that has not been a problem.
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I hate to repeat myself, but go click "Start" and then "Programs"... scroll up AND down as fast as you can... it is anything but smooth scrolling... as far as switching from landscape to portrait faster than you can press a stopwatch button twice, I can only assume you are trying to use your feet. I have used the stock ROM, the kitchen, and DCDs custom ROM... it's slow. I count roughly 2-3 seconds. Granted, it may not seem like a "long" time in the grand scheme of things... for a phone, it's an eternity, and ultimately... it's not as fast as phones that are 3 years old. I'm ecstatic for you that you are happy with the performance of your phone. Why would you even bother to *read* this message thread if that's the case?
Additionally... in File Explorer... don't try scrolling down slowly... try up *and* down quickly. If you can *see* the screen refresh, then it's too damned slow. It's supposed to SCROLL... not BLINK.
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I don't know what you have done to your Mogul, but mine switches from landscape to portrait (or vice versa) faster than I could press a stopwatch button twice. The scrolling in File Explorer, dragging the stylus down the scroll bar, is instantaneous. I am running the stock Sprint 3.35 package. The only time I see terribly slow response is when the Mogul is connected to my PC and syncing...then it is glacial. But I do not usually use it when it is syncing so that has not been a problem.
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Backntyme,
I agree about the keyboard thing. When I switch to landscape and back it normally takes about 1-2 seconds. But sometimes much longer and it is quite annoying.
But for the scrolling thing, Foetus was talking about start>programs. You go there and scroll the page up icons up and down quickly. You will see the delayed screen refresh. Another one is when you use iGuidance or TomTom. The screen refresh is terrible and you get really jerky animation of turns etc. I haven't noticed especially bad scrolling in file explorer because the rendering is simple. But rendering of graphics is not great. But liveable.
But what the thread is upset about is not whether its liveable or not. It's about whether an expensive piece of equipment should be worse in some respects than its predecessor. And whether we are getting value for money. The device's hardware is capable of better performance, but HTC have chosen to supply a substandard set of software to go with it.
Foetus, sorry for answering for you. I thought you were offline. But you beat me to the punch anyway..
This is way off topic, but you know what really pisses me off about the titan performance? The fact that you have to turn sounds off the dialpad or it can't even keep up with your dialing of a number. My ten year old nokia (that i still have) sh*ts all over the titan for speed. Granted it cant do everything that the titan can do, but at least it does what it was advertised to do - and do it properly.
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I hate to repeat myself, but go click "Start" and then "Programs"... scroll up AND down as fast as you can... it is anything but smooth scrolling... as far as switching from landscape to portrait faster than you can press a stopwatch button twice, I can only assume you are trying to use your feet. I have used the stock ROM, the kitchen, and DCDs custom ROM... it's slow. I count roughly 2-3 seconds. Granted, it may not seem like a "long" time in the grand scheme of things... for a phone, it's an eternity, and ultimately... it's not as fast as phones that are 3 years old. I'm ecstatic for you that you are happy with the performance of your phone. Why would you even bother to *read* this message thread if that's the case?
Additionally... in File Explorer... don't try scrolling down slowly... try up *and* down quickly. If you can *see* the screen refresh, then it's too damned slow. It's supposed to SCROLL... not BLINK.
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First, I didn't realize that we were supposed to PM you for permission to *read* threads on this forum and that you would only permit users who agree with you to read those threads. Nor does the thread title "Video acceleration news?" imply that it is going to be really just another gripe thread. Second, when you said "Go into the "Programs" folder, and scroll up and down a bit" that is not the same thing as "I hate to repeat myself, but go click "Start" and then "Programs"; however, in that screen, either scrolling or paging up and down, my Mogul also draws the icons almost instantaneously. That means in a fraction of a second. The switch between portrait and landscape is also accomplished in a fraction of a second. Scrolling in File Explorer works as it should with no blinking.
If I were in your position, instead of assuming that someone who posts different experiences than yours must be a fool who cannot tell how much time elapses during screen redraws and then telling them that they should not be reading "your" thread, I would question why my own device could not do what other similar devices can do.
I am not saying that the device is perfect; for example, sometimes when activating the Task Manager icon at the top right of the Today screen, it takes a second or two to show the running programs. But I do not believe that is a screen response problem.
maccaberry: I also use iGuidance 3.0.1, and the screen response works properly either with an external Bluetooth GPS receiver, or with the internal GPS receiver and the intermediate port workarounds. That workaround requirement is more a limitation of iGuidance than of the Mogul.
edit: maccaberry, you say that HTC has supplied substandard software. But at least some of your experiences are with a bootloader, ROM, and radio that were either not supplied by HTC for your device, or not supplied for use on your carrier, or not supplied to be used together, or have been modified from the software as it was supplied by HTC. I am running the stock Sprint 3.35 package with all of the customizations as supplied by HTC. Maybe that has some effect?
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Sorry im going to have to agree with everyone else over you... (not just this thread mind you but a simple search and you should see what i mean) but please feel free to either use MyMobiler and record a video of your superb performance.... honistly... or find some other app to record... even using the most slimmed down ROM to the Stock i still get what he is describing.... and worse... i have changed things to make the transition faster like 128K for the Glyphcahe system ram all up to 90% Mem usage WITH NOTHING running and no Today crap and it still takes 1-2 seconds compared to 3-5 seconds with no optimizations.... really a PITA
its also tiring reading a book Landscape then having the thing switch to Portrat then having to go all the way back to settings and flip the screen again before i can continue reading...
EDIT1: I recently dug up my Sony CLIE UX50 and even though its a PALM platform with a low 124MHZ PROC (me thinks it was) STILL kicks the Mogul/ANY OTHER HTC's video performance.. and even game performance... anything performance... except compression... (DUH Mogul/Most other HTC's have bigger PROC)
New Tilt 2.0 alpha rom speeds up graphics? (!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=388728&page=4
Benchmarks posted here to illustrate the point. Some people think this is part of the promised optimizations from the manufacturer.
Other people are looking at drivers located in the new Imate 9502 that has a msm7200 chipset as well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745&page=100
Maybe there will be some hardware acceleration in the new raphael and diamond that could be borrowed.
Hopefully these multiple approaches will synergistically gel to greatly increase performance for my mogul
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Sorry im going to have to agree with everyone else over you... (not just this thread mind you but a simple search and you should see what i mean) but please feel free to either use MyMobiler and record a video of your superb performance.... honistly... or find some other app to record... even using the most slimmed down ROM to the Stock i still get what he is describing.... and worse... i have changed things to make the transition faster like 128K for the Glyphcahe system ram all up to 90% Mem usage WITH NOTHING running and no Today crap and it still takes 1-2 seconds compared to 3-5 seconds with no optimizations.... really a PITA
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It really does not matter with whom you agree...you could actually open your mind and believe all of us; just because other Titans exhibit poor performance in this area does not mean that my Titan must also. Or does your need to believe that it is a systemic problem that affects all Titans make you so sure that I am lying that only a video will convince you that i am telling the truth?
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It really does not matter with whom you agree...you could actually open your mind and believe all of us; just because other Titans exhibit poor performance in this area does not mean that my Titan must also. Or does your need to believe that it is a systemic problem that affects all Titans make you so sure that I am lying that only a video will convince you that i am telling the truth?
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no i am merely saying that you seem to have an uncanny tone in both your first post and your follow up post that begs the question why reply in a thread asking of others PROBLEMS if you have none? if you have none congratz.. but this thread is not about who doesn't have but rather who has AND if any news has been heard about fixing it... as any search you will do on "HTC Video Performance"... your "non-existant" problem is one in... well... almost the entire production of any newer (at least) HTC Device!
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I don't know what you have done to your Mogul, but mine switches from landscape to portrait (or vice versa) faster than I could press a stopwatch button twice. The scrolling in File Explorer, dragging the stylus down the scroll bar, is instantaneous. I am running the stock Sprint 3.35 package. The only time I see terribly slow response is when the Mogul is connected to my PC and syncing...then it is glacial. But I do not usually use it when it is syncing so that has not been a problem."
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So again, as you don't seem to have a problem, CONGRATZ however I am a firm believer of a "post when important or relevant" policy and well.. your post is HIGHLY IRRELEVANT as this thread (as i said above) is about the problem as well as possible news of its being resolved...
Sorry thats just the way i feel...
Now as for the RELEVENT part of this post... I read a notice on PhoneNews and while they say they are working on some fixes.. its nearly 99.99% that their will be no advancements for HWL control of the GFX part of the phone due to "fees and software development time" HOWEVER i have high hope that the Raphael will have said drivers and since it seems not TOO much is different hopefully someone will be able to REVENG them for our oh so broken HTC devices...
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I hate to repeat myself, but go click "Start" and then "Programs"... scroll up AND down as fast as you can... it is anything but smooth scrolling... as far as switching from landscape to portrait faster than you can press a stopwatch button twice, I can only assume you are trying to use your feet. I have used the stock ROM, the kitchen, and DCDs custom ROM... it's slow. I count roughly 2-3 seconds. Granted, it may not seem like a "long" time in the grand scheme of things... for a phone, it's an eternity, and ultimately... it's not as fast as phones that are 3 years old. I'm ecstatic for you that you are happy with the performance of your phone. Why would you even bother to *read* this message thread if that's the case?
Additionally... in File Explorer... don't try scrolling down slowly... try up *and* down quickly. If you can *see* the screen refresh, then it's too damned slow. It's supposed to SCROLL... not BLINK.
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Holy crap. LMAO
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no i am merely saying that you seem to have an uncanny tone in both your first post and your follow up post that begs the question why reply in a thread asking of others PROBLEMS if you have none? if you have none congratz.. but this thread is not about who doesn't have but rather who has AND if any news has been heard about fixing it... as any search you will do on "HTC Video Performance"... your "non-existant" problem is one in... well... almost the entire production of any newer (at least) HTC Device!
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So again, as you don't seem to have a problem, CONGRATZ however I am a firm believer of a "post when important or relevant" policy and well.. your post is HIGHLY IRRELEVANT as this thread (as i said above) is about the problem as well as possible news of its being resolved...
Sorry thats just the way i feel...
Now as for the RELEVENT part of this post... I read a notice on PhoneNews and while they say they are working on some fixes.. its nearly 99.99% that their will be no advancements for HWL control of the GFX part of the phone due to "fees and software development time" HOWEVER i have high hope that the Raphael will have said drivers and since it seems not TOO much is different hopefully someone will be able to REVENG them for our oh so broken HTC devices...
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I thought it was relevant to point out that since my Mogul does not exhibit the delays, the problems you are experiencing may not be caused by what you think is causing them. And if you read this thread, you will discover a post by another user who doesn't see the problem. The original post posed the question, "So... does anyone have *any* information about the HTC video acceleration problems?" A post indicating that the problems are not experienced by all users is responsive to that question. But since you all insist that your problems are systemic to the device, only new drivers will fix it, and any users not experiencing the problems should not be allowed to discuss it, I will let you keep that belief.
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I thought it was relevant to point out that since my Mogul does not exhibit the delays, the problems you are experiencing may not be caused by what you think is causing them. And if you read this thread, you will discover a post by another user who doesn't see the problem. The original post posed the question, "So... does anyone have *any* information about the HTC video acceleration problems?" A post indicating that the problems are not experienced by all users is responsive to that question. But since you all insist that your problems are systemic to the device, only new drivers will fix it, and any users not experiencing the problems should not be allowed to discuss it, I will let you keep that belief.
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The fact of the matter is, hardware acceleration within the video drivers would considerably speed up all of the devices regardless of if you do or do not see a problem with your own device.
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First, I didn't realize that we were supposed to PM you for permission to *read* threads on this forum and that you would only permit users who agree with you to read those threads.
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I can be polite exactly once per thread per idiot. Typically, it's a misunderstanding that is cleared up with a more in-depth explanation. As for permission to read the thread... re-read my question, except this time, pretend you're not a flame-baiting schmuck that didn't get hugged by his mother enough as a child. I asked you a question... WHY would you read a thread about a problem you don't have, nor have a solution for? I'm hoping you can play the piano brialliantly, thus adding the term "savant" to your title.
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Nor does the thread title "Video acceleration news?" imply that it is going to be really just another gripe thread. Second, when you said "Go into the "Programs" folder, and scroll up and down a bit" that is not the same thing as "I hate to repeat myself, but go click "Start" and then "Programs";
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Actually... the question mark implies that I am asking a *question*. While it doesn't explicitly ask the question "Does anyone have some video acceleration news?", it does in fact do more than subtly *hint*. In fact... one would go as far as to say that it is IMPLIED. Your illilteracy is not my problem (Oh... and illiteracy is the inability to read... I am not saying your parents weren't married). Furthermore, rephrasing my example actually DOES count as repeating myself... it doesn't have to be exact; that's what the word "verbatim" would be used for. Isn't English FUN!??!
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second. The switch between portrait and landscape is also accomplished in a fraction of a second. Scrolling in File Explorer works as it should with no blinking.
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Before (as I said), I was polite about this. YOU ARE A LIAR. I believe that your pants may be ablaze. I have heard it suggested to hang pants in such a condition on a telephone wire. HTC has stated that they know about the issue and their solution is to buy a new phone when they come out with video acceleration. Either you are OK with the delay (which is what I assumed originally), have *zero* concept of time, or option C: you are a dirty, filthy, weird liar. I'm betting it's option C, I'm betting you look for fights behind the anonymity of the internet constantly, and I bet you die alone and unloved.
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If I were in your position, instead of assuming that someone who posts different experiences than yours must be a fool who cannot tell how much time elapses during screen redraws and then telling them that they should not be reading "your" thread, I would question why my own device could not do what other similar devices can do.
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If I were in *your* position, I wouldn't assume that even though HTC has admitted the problem, and just about everyone complains about this problem, your ARGUMENT about the device would advance this thread in any kind of positive way whatsoever. Again... you will die alone. I am clairvoyant.
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maccaberry: I also use iGuidance 3.0.1, and the screen response works properly either with an external Bluetooth GPS receiver, or with the internal GPS receiver and the intermediate port workarounds. That workaround requirement is more a limitation of iGuidance than of the Mogul.
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...all alone.
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edit: maccaberry, you say that HTC has supplied substandard software. But at least some of your experiences are with a bootloader, ROM, and radio that were either not supplied by HTC for your device, or not supplied for use on your carrier, or not supplied to be used together, or have been modified from the software as it was supplied by HTC. I am running the stock Sprint 3.35 package with all of the customizations as supplied by HTC. Maybe that has some effect?
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On this, I agree a little bit... the latest ROMs fixed the delay a little bit, if I recall. Certainly, he lists an older DCD rom in his sig.
Oh... PS: All alone, by yourself, with no one to cry at your funeral.
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It really does not matter with whom you agree...you could actually open your mind and believe all of us; just because other Titans exhibit poor performance in this area does not mean that my Titan must also. Or does your need to believe that it is a systemic problem that affects all Titans make you so sure that I am lying that only a video will convince you that i am telling the truth?
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Actually, having the exact same hardware and the exact same hardware *does* mean that "just because other Titans exhibit poor performance in this area", yours does as well. Unless somehow, you have a defect in your equipment that somehow makes your phone FASTER. It's not an issue of having an open mind... it's an issue about having the same equipment. Again, though, if you have no issues with the performance of the phone, that's excellent. I honestly *am* happy that you are satisfied with your purchase... but you can't tell other people that their dissatisfaction with a product is baseless. Everyone has their own opinion... this thread, however, wasn't created for posting your *opinion*. I was looking for updates. HTC has said they're working on something (but have stated it's not acceleration, but more along the lines of "tweaks" and optimization)...
I went to my local Best Buy tonight and tried out the device. I wasn't too impressed with the speed of it, but a BB sales rep pointed out that the device is slow because it is on 1.6. So I tried accessing Marvel.com to read a digital comic, which failed due to lack of flash. The rep told me to try it on the Galaxy Tab, which he said was much more powerful than the Streak. I was able to pull up a comic on Marvel.com using the Galaxy browser and when I tried reading the comic, the screen went grey and showed an exclamation point in the middle. The sales rep started downloading an update and then tried it. I was able to open a comic, but again, when moving to the next panel, a greyed out box with an exclamation point. The rep told me that the device probably needed to have Flash 10.1 to be downloaded to make it work. At this point, I just left thinking that Froyo and Flash is useless on Android for Marvel.com. Can anyone please tell me if they are able to read a free digital comic on Marvel.com where the screen does not go grey with exclamation points when navigating? Is the BB rep correct, in stating that it probably just needs Flash 10.1 downloaded to work correctly? If so, then I definitely want to get the Streak.
Also, does Netflix work on the Streak with Froyo and will movies encoded for the iphone/ipad using Handbrake play smoothly on the Streak?
I have 2.2 froyo with 10.1 flash player on my streak. I tried loading a digital comic and it got thru the first 2 pages, but the 3rd page was the gray exclamation point. I was running on att's hsdpa 3g, so idk if it would've performed differently under wifi.
However, idk if its flash player or simply the streak being unable compute all the data from the marvel flash site.
Netflix is currently incompatible with any android versions. But that is netflix's fault for not developing an android app, though i hear they are currently working on it.
Man, I really appreciate you taking the time to check it out for me! You saved me a lot of time, money and frustration! The Streak is a sweet device, but I think I will wait until the hardware catches up to do the things I want. Thanks again for that feedback
No prob. I think its more software related than hardware though. Just wait for the dual core or even quad cores that will spring up the rest of 2011 if hardware perf is top priority.
On my Streak it looks a little small and it gets a little sluggish,I am sure it is software related.I do not think this toy would be your best option.
By the way very cool website.
I'm running Froyo 2.2 v 1.5.3 by DJ Steve. I have had this version installed for over a month now. I have tried 1.6.1 and 1.5.2 but, have found 1.5.3 to be the best for me. I just went to Marvel.com and had no problems reading a comic via wifi. I suspect your problems are AT&T's ****ty 3G service. Run a speed test, as did I, and you will probably find the same or similar sub par up/down streams. As far as hardware, a quick run of quadrant will benchmark your hardware. Mine scores better than any other phone it is compared to. I do, however, have experience with Linux (what Android is based on) and would consider myself an advanced user. Simply installing the ROM is not enough. The device settings must be optimized, similar to a PC when you buy it new, the Streak is set up to keep the most people happy (ironic, I know). What you must do is make it YOUR StreakDroid through custom mods, the first of which is deciding what ROM you are going to use. I was initially pissed at AT&T and Dell (I have come to believe it was AT&T politics) for slow walking the Dell software upgrades and wanted to return the phone. After flashing/rooting my StreakDroid and freaking it my way I couldn't be happier. i~CON
Don't forget kids, every time someone buys an i~Phone, GOD kills a kitten!!
Okay, now you have me thinking again! So, you went through an entire digital comic on froyo 2.2 with no crashes or problems? Do you think it would work smoothly on an unlocked Streak direct from Dell on wifi?
I can't say that I remember the last time my streak crashed while on the internet with either wifi or 3G. I use the internet for many things, any of which could cause a crash but, does not. I view flash, read news papers, watch movies, read e-zines, and even have the kindle app for books (they have comics there too i believe). Marvel.com was no exception. I have an AT&T locked (well, it was at one point) and it all works just fine. I have found most bugs and complaints about DJ Steve's ROMs to be the hardware sitting in front of the screen having unresolved conflics with different programs/apps. It is not enough to say you have the greatest PC on the planet. You must be able to answer the question, when asked : What can you do with it? Bottom line is experiment and learn. Run Linux Ubuntu live on your windows box and learn Linux. Consequently you will learn Android and PC in general. You will become a better user and will be able to do so much more with a lot less. i~CON
Don't forget kids, every time someone buys an i~Phone, GOD kills a kitten!!
You have me very interested in the Streak. Honestly- if I already have an iPhone 4, how does the Streak fill the gap for an iPad? I used to have the iPad but gave it to my wife. I was thinking about getting the iPad 2 but thought if reading on the Streak 5 was decent, I would probably prefer the Streak because it is more portable and I could swap my sim card to take advantage of my unlimited AT&T data plan. Am I way off base thinking the Streak would keep me happy with a 5" inch screen?
Does the factory unlocked version allow the Streak to be used as a wifi hotspot for tethering?
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You have me very interested in the Streak. Honestly- if I already have an iPhone 4, how does the Streak fill the gap for an iPad? I used to have the iPad but gave it to my wife. I was thinking about getting the iPad 2 but thought if reading on the Streak 5 was decent, I would probably prefer the Streak because it is more portable and I could swap my sim card to take advantage of my unlimited AT&T data plan. Am I way off base thinking the Streak would keep me happy with a 5" inch screen?
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I don't think so at all.....I want a do-it-all device that fits in my pocket....with the biggest screen that can still fit .....and the streak is great at this.....after using this phone for a week now,I can't imagine going back to something smaller,and if I have to carry something because it doesn't fit in my pocket....I'm bringin my 17 inch lappy : )
Honestly if you dont have 2.2, u won't like the device. But froyo makes the streak a VERY pleasurable device.
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Unlocked will have mobile hotspot. But manually putting it on a locked streak will do the same.
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Its kept me very happy. I can access a home network server and interface with 5+ machines...all from my StreakDroid. I imaged the ROM into my network so I can reflash it in minutes if i do something too intense. You can do anything you can think of, thats the beauty of open source. You can take it, preferably share your improvements, and do as you please. Good luck i~CON
Freaked, Geeked, and Tweeked Dell Streakdroid Froyo 2.2 running 1.5.3 DJ Steve ROM
Don't forget kids, every time someone buys an i~Phone, GOD kills a kitten!!
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Yes it does.
Thanks all! I am going to be a proud owner of a brand new Dell Streak unlocked directly from Dell for $400 plus they are sending me a $50 Dell gift card! This will be my first foray into Android, so I am pretty excited! I am still keeping my iPhone because I have a lot of games that I am not sure if they are available for my Dell and I also listen to a lot of podcasts that I have to daily download on my Air to sync back to my iPhone. This will be my iPad replacement!
I went and tried the digital comics too. I'm a comics geek from way back. I mean, I bought Wolverine Number 1 new. So, I was interested (but not surprised) to learn that comics were online.
The first few I tried resulted in the grey exclamation mark. Then I went into preferences and changed some settings. Now I've read two complete Spiderman comics on my Streak with no problems.
As for the Streak vs Ipad thing... let's face it, the bigger screen of the iPad is always going to be better for reading on. However, I will say this. I too wanted an iPad. Then I got the Streak. For some reason getting an iPad just isn't on my list anymore. I like that I can use the Streak for a phone. I like it can fit in a pocket, so I can take it everywhere with me. I have also found that since I've had it, I've used my laptop less too.
Thanks for sharing that information. I have been having eye strain lately reading off of my iPhone 4 and carrying around my iPad at work was pretty awkward. I am hoping that the Streak will fit the bill as a tablet/phone for me. I will still keep my iPhone, but will see how much the Streak grows on me. I see that there are a few games that may interest me, particularly the ones from Gameloft. What's confusing to me is where do I buy them, how will I know an update is available, will it run from the SD card and can the Streak gpu handle games like the iPhone?
Also, I would be very interested in knowing what settings you tweaked to get the online digital comics working successfully so I can hopefully do the same when my Dell arrives.
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Thanks for sharing that information. I have been having eye strain lately reading off of my iPhone 4 and carrying around my iPad at work was pretty awkward. I am hoping that the Streak will fit the bill as a tablet/phone for me. I will still keep my iPhone, but will see how much the Streak grows on me. I see that there are a few games that may interest me, particularly the ones from Gameloft. What's confusing to me is where do I buy them, how will I know an update is available, will it run from the SD card and can the Streak gpu handle games like the iPhone?
Also, I would be very interested in knowing what settings you tweaked to get the online digital comics working successfully so I can hopefully do the same when my Dell arrives.
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I changed page transitions to "simple" and changed it so it only displays a single page at a time. These are inside the preferences box in the popup when you launch the comic.
As for buying games, the android market is one place, and there are three other android-centric sites for getting apps. As to the update thing, with most apps you can select auto update. I have chosen not to, however. I check about once a day in the market to see if any of my apps have updates. I manually update apps only after looking at reviews to see if the update broke anything with the app. I'm purposely running a few old apps right now.
Some apps under froyo can be moved to the SD card, some can't. And, as for the gpu vs iPhone, I can't really comment as I've never had an iPhone. I have a few friends with iPhones, however, and after letting them mess with the Streak for awhile, 2 of them have ditched the iPhone for the Streak and the rest are thinking about it. I let them all play Asphalt HD on it, show them google maps with traffic and satellite on, youtube, facebook, and a few other apps I have. I guess it is comparable, or they wouldn't all be so interested in it.
I really can't answer that for you. I was looking for the smallest tablet not the biggest phone. I need the phone to run custom apps, be my calander, my mp3 player, a GPS, an E-book reader, amoung other things. I am a very large guy so although big for a phone it fits me quite well. I like it better than the i~phone, I even joke with apple through my online name. For me, the streak is perfect and I would not change it for anything out there current. i~CON
Don't forget kids, every time someone buys an i~Phone, GOD kills a kitten!!
Wondering if the setting for Automatic screen brightness is bad for you all? What im talking about is that my screen brightness is not changing accordingly to light/dark environment, it's basically always on medium. Can my phone be broken or is this normal?
Also experience screen drop outs where it's stop responding to touch input, it sits like that for short period of time and will start responding again. It seems not like a frequent problem but happens now and again since I bought it last week.
Last but not least, im experiencing some forms....in lack of words, "processor" straining if I have all 20 Xbox games installed and a lot of apps and music. Seems that the less memory the more chopy everything become. Even with a lot removed from storage and having, like 7GB free its a bit choppy, but the problem will increase expanding to less increased memory. Just open Games and looking at the avatar you can see lagg in his movments. I feely like with a clean phone I never saw that.
Now worth noting is I am VERY picky when it comes to lagg/choppiness/Screen flickerings. This phone is brand new and I come from a Omnia 7. While surfing the Webb is a incredible experience, its so smooth, I feel that start menu scrolling, avatar movements etc is choppy and almost, as bad? as a first gen device. Game performance seems to be better on the Titan compared to my old Omnia 7. But on a lot of areas it seems my Omnia 7 is on par with the Titan. This is a new gen device, shouldn't I experience a lot of difference.
Now, anybody got some thoughts about this? Any feedback/help is appreciated.
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The amount of used/free storage has very little to do with the performance of the phone. More than likely, its simply the phone needing to download and load data that is causing some of the stuttering you are seeing, which is the most common culprit of performance hiccups. The storage memory is not the same thing as the memory used to run the phone/apps/games. A common misconception.
Slow data connections/downloads in combination with the inability for the phone to load all your information instantly is probably the lag you are seeing (or even, the phone IS trying to load all your data at once). It is more apparent in 3rd party apps, but its the same as any device trying to load data.
If it really is to the point where its unbearable, it may very well be that your device is defective. I don't have any major issues with freezing/stuttering/lag on any of my Windows Phone devices. Its a bit more noticeable on my 1st gen devices, but its largely eliminated on my 2nd gen devices. A little bit of stuttering here and there is completely normal for any device though.
Thnx for the input. I can't tell what's the reason behind it, but my Omnua was the same. To many Tiles and the start screen will get choppy etc.
Nobody have any trouble with the screen brightness and phone freezing for a short period? Many small things I never noticed on my Omnia 7, and I thought that phone wasn't all there. If all small problems is here in scared for the survival of WP if phones get worse. If there to. Ompete with Apple plz give solid performance.... I feel disappointed :'(
I've a ton of live tiles and no start screen lag. Maybe your device is defective?
or maybe my standards are 2 high. It can't be a coincidence that my Omnia 7, Lumia 800 and now my Titan is doing the same thing...but that is a WP7 issue. Currently is automatic screen brightness my worst concerns, and if dark room or sunlight don't really change on your phones, then I know its a standard Titan issue, if not, I need to send it back for repairs. And maybe the screen freezing I have is connected to the sensor is broken. I have no clue so .....if you cover your phones top, or put a strong light on it, does your brightness change?
screen freezing should probably be more accurately be called screen drop out, like its disconnected some how. Haven't happend for 1-2 days now.
I remember my old HD2 was reported with broken screens as a flaw and people had to send in a lot of there devices before it was fixed. Kind of scared its typical bad HTC quality playing its thing?
Autobrightness - known bug
Screen stutter - tried SRS-off?
Start screen lag - ghosting
Screen drop - lock-unlock screen, known bug for some handsets.
It's all in the sticky of FAQs.
I can fill my screen with tons of tiles too and get absolutely no lag.
I think really the best way for any of us to tell you whether or not the type of lag you are experiencing is normal would be to take video. Use the phone as you normally would, take some video of you doing it, and clearly we should be able to see any weird lag issues.
But again, a little bit of lag, on any device, is totally normal. It may be that you are just too picky. I imagine that using Android would totally kill you since the lag there gets out of hand at times.
Problem is, while you may think its Windows Phone in general because it has happened to the last 3 of your devices, the rest of us here experience little to no lag with our devices, which would rule out that it is just a Windows Phone problem. It may be the way you set your phone up that it causing some kind of lag, totally possible, since everyone sets up their device in different ways. And more than likely, you have set your phone up a certain way every time you move to a new device, because that's just how you set it up.
Thanx for all the great input and maybe im just picky.
Great FAQ thread, sorry for not seeing it, but I would give you the tip to rename it to somthing more...boring? :-D. All I saw was FAQ and noob and then my interest was gone, sorry for that, usually see em and they always rock so thnx for a nice post. As a naming tip. FAQ: HTC TITAN: current Information/issues/solutions.
Maybe just me but in sorry i missed your FAQ. Keep upp the work and nice to know its basically HTC screwing up again, when will they learn. (Miss my Omnia 7)
also, feel free to delete this thread if you consider name change ...lol, just trying to be kind and frank.
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Thanx for all the great input and maybe im just picky.
Great FAQ thread, sorry for not seeing it, but I would give you the tip to rename it to somthing more...boring? :-D. All I saw was FAQ and noob and then my interest was gone, sorry for that, usually see em and they always rock so thnx for a nice post. As a naming tip. FAQ: HTC TITAN: current Information/issues/solutions.
Maybe just me but in sorry i missed your FAQ. Keep upp the work and nice to know its basically HTC screwing up again, when will they learn. (Miss my Omnia 7)
also, feel free to delete this thread if you consider name change ...lol, just trying to be kind and frank.
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I think HTC din't just mess up in general. It was the first batch (Oct/Nov purchases) that had the most issues and plenty with ATT. In the UK if you got something from first batch off CarPhone Warehouse - you would see those freezes and lags. However, I swapped mine just before December and no issues after that. The ghosting is common with ALL HTCs. Android, Windows - doesn't matter. It's their S-LCD/LCD screens.
hehe okay. Just bought mine of Expansys and they were waiting to get em in to stock so was hoping to skip first wave. Any ways to see which rendition I have? Hmm I will go to the FAQ after your reply so delite this thread in awhile then, its no good when there is a FAQ, especially as good as the one there is.
before I state my question, YES i tried searching around this forum for my particular problem, but I'm kinda ishy-washy on some of it- I'm one of those people who needs an answer to my exact problem so sorry!
Anyways, I have this HP Touchpad for awhile (my Aunt bought it for me when it was on a huge sale in mid November) and I kinda got pissed at it with it's lack of apps and things to do, compared to what my friend has: an iPad. So I put it in my closet, until now where I'm just craving for a tablet.
But I still have the same problem: THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO WITH IT. I have watched many videos and blogs about how people changed their touchpad to different systems and I'm interested on how to do that. First of all, which system is good for me to switch too? I do not want to switch to a system that will not benefit me at all. I am aiming for using a tablet for opening Microsoft files (Word, Powerpoint) and editing the files, playing FUN games (not that awful Robotek game), and watching videos on youtube.
So which system you recommend on me getting? And what tutorial to follow to get that system? Is there risks involved (I do not want to waste my touchpad)? How big of a risk? Should I just save up for an iPad? Also please be specific on the tutorial on what to do (Preferably a video tut or possibly have one of yall geniuses be there while I do it)
Sorry for all the questions lol I'm just about this close to throwing this tablet out of the window.
Well, there are a few things you can do with it already.
Firstly, WebOS is a nice OS. Yes, there's a lack of games for it at the moment. Yes there's a lack of other non-game apps available for it, too. That's a given. WebOS is just not as popular. HOWEVER. With it being open-sourced this year, that should change.
Secondly, the ability to install Android on your Touchpad is well documented. There's a great guide on how to do that at this link here (to RootzWiki). They are the people who put CyanogenMod 9 (Android 4, Ice Cream Sandwich) on the Touchpad. This means you have a tablet OS of Android that works, is (in my opinion) extremely stable, and can do almost anything.
For your need of YouTube, that's covered - the HD acceleration has been incorporated into Alpha2 that I linked to you. The ability to play games, there's a lot of them out there for Android, and with a little searching, you can tweak your TP to be able to download and play more of them. As for office files, if you download any of the good Office Suites (they cost anywhere from 5-25 dollars), you can do mobile office work right on your tablet. I have all three from the Amazon AppStore - Documents to Go, OfficeSuite Pro, and QuickOffice. All three offer their perks, all three have their downsides, but all three work great for what I've had to do.
If you have questions about the install, feel free to drop me a PM - I'm more than happy to help walk you through what you need to do to get ICS installed on your TP. And since I've done it many, many times, I can almost walk you through it completely in my sleep.
Hopefully that answers some of your questions, mate. If not, as I said, ask away, and I'll try and help.
I have they fixed the wifi issuse in alpha2?
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I have they fixed the wifi issuse in alpha2?
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Some have issues, others are fine. My problem lied with the channel my router wifi was on, after switching it to channel 1 (the most popular solution), I haven't had any wifi problems in over a month, compared to every hour or so before.
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Hey! Robotek is a great game! Play multiplayer with a friend!
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Hey again I have another question: I installed Cyan 7 Alpha 3.5 but whenever I charge it, it restarts. It also restarts when I leave it on for a while.
Is this common?
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Hey again I have another question: I installed Cyan 7 Alpha 3.5 but whenever I charge it, it restarts. It also restarts when I leave it on for a while.
Is this common?
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Well... it's now essentially dead... you aren't going to find much support lol. Nobody in their right mind is using CM7 still, unless you must absolutely have half-working Skype or something. Move up to CM9 bud, see if that doesn't fix things.
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Hey again I have another question: I installed Cyan 7 Alpha 3.5 but whenever I charge it, it restarts. It also restarts when I leave it on for a while.
Is this common?
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It'a an alpha, it's common to have problems. But why would you install a CM7 Alpha? Like that guy said, get on CM9. The camera still doesn't work, but to be honest, it wasn't really functional in CM7. Other than that, everything is MUCH better and more stable now.
If you are looking for a cheap method to work with Word documents you can use Google Docs. It is cloud storage but it will let you do the basic work on any device and then download it in Word format.
Any of the other listed apps do a great job as well. I got them all free on the Amazon App Store, they have a free app of the day. Once you get your tablet setup and in a good state look it up for freebies.
its a great tablet.
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before I state my question, YES i tried searching around this forum for my particular problem, but I'm kinda ishy-washy on some of it- I'm one of those people who needs an answer to my exact problem so sorry!
Anyways, I have this HP Touchpad for awhile (my Aunt bought it for me when it was on a huge sale in mid November) and I kinda got pissed at it with it's lack of apps and things to do, compared to what my friend has: an iPad. So I put it in my closet, until now where I'm just craving for a tablet.
But I still have the same problem: THERE'S NOTHING I CAN DO WITH IT. I have watched many videos and blogs about how people changed their touchpad to different systems and I'm interested on how to do that. First of all, which system is good for me to switch too? I do not want to switch to a system that will not benefit me at all. I am aiming for using a tablet for opening Microsoft files (Word, Powerpoint) and editing the files, playing FUN games (not that awful Robotek game), and watching videos on youtube.
So which system you recommend on me getting? And what tutorial to follow to get that system? Is there risks involved (I do not want to waste my touchpad)? How big of a risk? Should I just save up for an iPad? Also please be specific on the tutorial on what to do (Preferably a video tut or possibly have one of yall geniuses be there while I do it)
Sorry for all the questions lol I'm just about this close to throwing this tablet out of the window.
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Euh i just want to say dont buy a ipad if you have a great tablet alrrady hp touchpad. Its the same size screen etc.. ipad is fun but sucks (because of no costumaziation android is and says fun) only thing i still dont like about TP is no hdmi out and no full usb host, but still better then ipad (doesnt have one of then also)
I had used webos for a long time downloaded al games for sites and afcors instaled preware i had i think about 10-15games 3d games like ashalt need for speed. Al for free. But after 2-4months it sucks and i instaled android and never rebooted webos again.
If you have CM7 Running, what you need to do is Download the CM9 files and gapps v11, then go to Clockwork recovery, wipe, flash files, and reboot. That will work beautifully. lol
If you insist on staying on CM7, then that is normal for some reason that it will boot when a charger or usb is connected (maybe even CM9). Even sometimes without it being connected, if you do a shutdown from within the OS, it will reboot and you have to select shut down from the moboot menu.
Look I'm sorry if I broke one of the 500 rules here, I am just desperately in search of help.
I have been a smart phone owner since 2009. I bought an iphone 3. I upgraded to a 3gs eventually, then last summer got my first note.
I went through five iphones because I kept sending them back due to various issues. I thought Android would be great and fix all my issues, but honestly I hate my phone and I just want a smartphone that works. Like I said I bought my first one in 2009 and I have just been trying to have a fully functional smartphone ever since and it is something I have never gotten to experience. Four years! Jesus, I just want one that works and doesn't give me random issues everytime I try to use it.
So my note is running android 4.0.4 I am going to list various issues I am having with it in the next post. I would do it in this post but I had it all typed up then this page just turned blank and I lost what I typed. I have no idea why.
Please keep in mind I have owned five Notes. I have sent them back for various issues, but these problems have persisted across all of them.
1. If I am using a web browser in landscape mode and go about ten seconds without touching the screen or buttons, the right side of the screen flashes black repeatedly.
2. When I use the default audio player the last song I picked automatically starts playing. It used to not autostart the music. How can I disable this?
3. When I am in an app and press home, sometimes after the app minimizes it comes right back up instead of going to the home screen. Why?
4. How come sometimes when I go to unlock my phone, the clock is in the middle instead of the top, which is what I have it set to?
5. When I attempt to download an image off the internet through any of the five browsers I have installed about 50% of the time the download fails regardless of 4G or wifi connection strength. How can I fix this?
6. Sometimes when I click a link on a webpage, the page jumps to another part of the webpage and activates a random link from that area. Wtf?
7. If I close every running app, disable every unrequired service and turn my screen brightness down all the way, I cannot use my browser and charge my phone at the same time without the battery draining quicker than it charges. How can I browse the web and charge my battery at the same time?
8. If I click up by issue #5 or #6 to edit something, this website scrolls the edit box all the way up to the top. The only way I can get back down to where I am typing this is to drag the text selection tool. Kind of annoying.
9. My lock screen setting is set to auto lock after ten minutes because I prefer to manually lock my phone when I'm done using it, not use auto lock. When I get a phone call this setting is overidden and the screen locks after ten seconds of inactivity following a phone call. How can I get my phone to always respect the value I selected for that setting rather than some of the time?
10. the default camera app has an option to set custom shortcuts. This is a useful feature. However every time I exit the application the shortcuts are reset to default, making that feature worthless. How can I set custom shortcuts permanently?
What's the common denominator among all these devices(ip*/sammy)?
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Maybe you should try the latest BlackBerry
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Maybe you should try the latest BlackBerry
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boneless9000 said:
Look I'm sorry if I broke one of the 500 rules here, I am just desperately in search of help.
I have been a smart phone owner since 2009. I bought an iphone 3. I upgraded to a 3gs eventually, then last summer got my first note.
I went through five iphones because I kept sending them back due to various issues. I thought Android would be great and fix all my issues, but honestly I hate my phone and I just want a smartphone that works. Like I said I bought my first one in 2009 and I have just been trying to have a fully functional smartphone ever since and it is something I have never gotten to experience. Four years! Jesus, I just want one that works and doesn't give me random issues everytime I try to use it.
So my note is running android 4.0.4 I am going to list various issues I am having with it in the next post. I would do it in this post but I had it all typed up then this page just turned blank and I lost what I typed. I have no idea why.
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Ok I hate to be the one to say this but you will never find anything that will not have random issues. This is the way of smartphones. While One device may run perfectly the same device and the same OS version will have random issues.
Also might want to look into something called a logcat. It will help you find the issues you see
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What's the common denominator among all these devices(ip*/sammy)? .
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They all feel like a waste of money?
let me see if I can either answer or help you clarify what's needed to solve these issues.
First are you stock unrooted? running a custom rom? Rooted?
(each of the following number correlate with the issues you listed):
1) Stock web browser or all of the one's you've tried? By flashes black, does half the screen start flashing black then back to what's being displayed quickly?
2) the playing the last song if I recall is a restart "function" that the player does, check in the settings for that. Maybe someone else can answer this as I don't use my phone as an MP3 player, just pandora.
3) I've had this happen from time to time with my phone as well. I've noticed that it happens with memory intensive programs. I just hit the home button again. Don't know what to tell you there
4) Are you referring to the clock on your lock screen or status bar?
5) Is this issue one specific image? is it from one given website? have you tried dolphin browser? I can tell you that it does work on my phone from google front page.
6) This happens to me as well, it's annoying and I feel your pain. It happens to me when I go to click a link when I have my keyboard open which resizes and moves the webpage and then activates the click in the new location. Is this similar to your issue?
7) Are you using the charger that came with the phone or a charger that pipes 1A to the device for charging? a lot of chargers our there will only do 500mA and a lot of cables will limit the charging to speed to 500mA because they aren't shorted for full power charging. Though someone should correct me if I'm wrong here.
8) Editing likes to jump around, mainly due to what I mentioned in response to 6 because it closes and reopens the keyboard. Again that's from my experience. this has been limited when I moved to swiftkey and a JB rom.
9) I have no clue about this one. and have no idea what to tell you. I'd say play in the settings for this one.
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You kindly asked for help, so I’ll kindly try my best.
1. I have NEVER heard of anything like this. So you say this happened on different Notes? That is akward. I wonder if a different dpi setting will cure this for ya. If your rooted you can install xposed and change individual app dpi’s This will also aid in resolving your #8 issue.
2. This is a normal setting in default audio players. I suggest GoneMad audio player. It has TONS of features and device controls to solve this for ya.
3. I noticed this problem once before. I believe it’s an animation lag. I never seen it happen if I turn off transition animations. Try that and repost back.
4. This sounds like a governor issue. The cpu frequency drops when phone is locked. When it wakes up it lags and the clock doesn’t pop back to where it’s suppose to be. I notice this a LOT when I rotate from portrait to landscape while lockscreen is up.
5. When your image downloads fail, what’s going on with the phone? Same with when they do download. Is anything else running? Is screen locked at all during the download?
6. I notice this happening with different individual webpages. Sometimes a webpage will have an advertisement that slowly loads at the top or side. When it does eventually load the screen elongates which moves the spot we were on. But of course this always happens right when we’re clicking a link! Could this possibly be what’s happening to you?
7. Are you using the stock supplied usb cable and charger plug? Aftermarket chargers have different output voltages. If your using a cheapO it will only charge when not doing anything. And even then it’s still slow to charge!
8. Our phones aren’t the greatest for typing LONG paragraphs or replies. I changed my keyboard dpi so it’s a lil smaller. It gave me more room in landscape mode to see what’s above and I can scroll thru what I wrote easier. That’s not a perfect solution but it helps!
9. I believe this problem is a default security issue. I remember reading somewhere that a phone is set to lock after a phone call because our face could be touching it and press something it shouldn’t. Also that if you were to give your phone to someone to make a phone call having the phone unlocked could be a security breach to you. When you think about it for a second it’s not a bad feature afterall! I’ve given my phone to a coworker during a call and I wouldn’t want him playing with my phone for a second! But when the boss is on the phone with me and wants to talk to whom I’m standing beside I let him! Your problem could be solved with a newer release of JellyBean. I notice a setting in my phone that says "Exit to last activity on end call" which will allow phone to exit to the previous activity screen on end call rather than going to call log and locking.
10. This problem makes me think that you might of tweeked something you shouldn’t of. Why else would an app not remember it’s settings you stored? If it’s not a tweek issue, you can try installing a different camera app. There’s literally 100’s!
Sorry if those responses are of no help. I’m no expert they are just my thoughts on your issues. Good luck!
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Look I'm sorry if I broke one of the 500 rules here, I am just desperately in search of help.<br />
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I have been a smart phone owner since 2009. I bought an iphone 3. I upgraded to a 3gs eventually, then last summer got my first note.<br />
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I went through five iphones because I kept sending them back due to various issues. I thought Android would be great and fix all my issues, but honestly I hate my phone and I just want a smartphone that works. Like I said I bought my first one in 2009 and I have just been trying to have a fully functional smartphone ever since and it is something I have never gotten to experience. Four years! Jesus, I just want one that works and doesn't give me random issues everytime I try to use it.<br />
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So my note is running android 4.0.4 I am going to list various issues I am having with it in the next post. I would do it in this post but I had it all typed up then this page just turned blank and I lost what I typed. I have no idea why.
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Ok I hate to be the one to say this but you will never find anything that will not have random issues. This is the way of smartphones. While One device may run perfectly the same device and the same OS version will have random issues.<br />
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Also might want to look into something called a logcat. It will help you find the issues you see
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God I ****ing hate my phone. I had my entire response typed out, got a phone call, then when I went back to my browser it refreshed the page and my **** got deleted. I cannot express how much I ****ing hate this piece of ****. That is not what I expect when an OS is advertised as having true multitasking. What garbage.
stock unrooted.
Flashes in every browser ive tried.
That music app never did that before and there is no option to chsnge it. i am not interested in replacing the app, i want to know how i can change the behavior back to how it was.
4. lock screen. setting stays the same (top) but when i go to unlock the phone sometimes its at the top something the middle. im just wondering why.
5. any website any browser any connection. I can be in a ****ing att store using their hotspot trying to download the google.com logo and it works half the time if that.
6. i dont know it just raneomly jumps around and clicks ****.
7. i am using the chargers that came with my phone. i cannot use my browser with all other apps closed and screen brightness cranked all the way down while my phone is plugged in and have the battery even stay level much less charge. my battery drops 10% if i look at my ****ing phone. i already got a second battery from att and this is the fifth note ive had too.
its so ****ing frustrating how there is no answers for anything at all. im just venting in general. i really, really appreciate people like you trying to take the time to help me out...but at the end of the day i have ****ing nothing at all to go on. i never ever find a solution to anything. everyone always says oh just try a different app or att is all well just send you a new phone. for ****s sake i just want the phone i use and the apps i use to ****ing work. ****.
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let me see if I can either answer or help you clarify what's needed to solve these issues.
First are you stock unrooted? running a custom rom? Rooted?
(each of the following number correlate with the issues you listed):
1) Stock web browser or all of the one's you've tried? By flashes black, does half the screen start flashing black then back to what's being displayed quickly?
2) the playing the last song if I recall is a restart "function" that the player does, check in the settings for that. Maybe someone else can answer this as I don't use my phone as an MP3 player, just pandora.
3) I've had this happen from time to time with my phone as well. I've noticed that it happens with memory intensive programs. I just hit the home button again. Don't know what to tell you there
4) Are you referring to the clock on your lock screen or status bar?
5) Is this issue one specific image? is it from one given website? have you tried dolphin browser? I can tell you that it does work on my phone from google front page.
6) This happens to me as well, it's annoying and I feel your pain. It happens to me when I go to click a link when I have my keyboard open which resizes and moves the webpage and then activates the click in the new location. Is this similar to your issue?
7) Are you using the charger that came with the phone or a charger that pipes 1A to the device for charging? a lot of chargers our there will only do 500mA and a lot of cables will limit the charging to speed to 500mA because they aren't shorted for full power charging. Though someone should correct me if I'm wrong here.
8) Editing likes to jump around, mainly due to what I mentioned in response to 6 because it closes and reopens the keyboard. Again that's from my experience. this has been limited when I moved to swiftkey and a JB rom.
9) I have no clue about this one. and have no idea what to tell you. I'd say play in the settings for this one.
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OP you went through five iphones and five notes?
I don't think the phone is the problem.
boneless9000 said:
God I ****ing hate my phone. I had my entire response typed out, got a phone call, then when I went back to my browser it refreshed the page and my **** got deleted. I cannot express how much I ****ing hate this piece of ****. That is not what I expect when an OS is advertised as having true multitasking. What garbage.
stock unrooted.
Flashes in every browser ive tried.
That music app never did that before and there is no option to chsnge it. i am not interested in replacing the app, i want to know how i can change the behavior back to how it was.
4. lock screen. setting stays the same (top) but when i go to unlock the phone sometimes its at the top something the middle. im just wondering why.
5. any website any browser any connection. I can be in a ****ing att store using their hotspot trying to download the google.com logo and it works half the time if that.
6. i dont know it just raneomly jumps around and clicks ****.
7. i am using the chargers that came with my phone. i cannot use my browser with all other apps closed and screen brightness cranked all the way down while my phone is plugged in and have the battery even stay level much less charge. my battery drops 10% if i look at my ****ing phone. i already got a second battery from att and this is the fifth note ive had too.
its so ****ing frustrating how there is no answers for anything at all. im just venting in general. i really, really appreciate people like you trying to take the time to help me out...but at the end of the day i have ****ing nothing at all to go on. i never ever find a solution to anything. everyone always says oh just try a different app or att is all well just send you a new phone. for ****s sake i just want the phone i use and the apps i use to ****ing work. ****.
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no worries I completely understand the pain of having an issue and feeling like I'm the only one EVER to deal with it.
SO don't hate me for these next set of recommendations, it's just all part of the troubleshooting process. What I would do is a full factory reset. I mean wipe everything, and I do mean everything because I'm almost suspecting it could be a rogue app causing at least some of your issues. I believe you can revert all the way back to GB (someone will correct me if I'm wrong, it is the internet after all). then without installing anything at all try the stock web browser see if it still flashes and jumps around. If it does well it's what some Microsoft programs like to call a "feature". as for your power consumption issue. try installing this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.manor.currentwidget&hl=en . it isn't perfectly accurate, but it should tell you close to what your amperage that's going into your phone, which should be around 1000ma (or 1A). I know the issue you're referring to and it happens to me when I use the GPS on my truck using my truck adapter which is only 500mA. battery just drops and drops and drops.
After you've done all that and still don't have the desired results, flash ICS and try again.
Lastly I hate the browsing system on these phones as well. you can clearly tell it's a simulated multitasking system and it won't even load multiple pages at the same time and if you switch between the tabs it'll refresh the page and redownload it. Annoying as crap especially when you're trying to watch some pr0n. But it is much better than on my ipod touch so I deal with it. Where I guess I differ from a lot of people who buys this phone is I think of it as a place to get my emails, phone calls and look something up to prove something wrong. I don't feel a smartphone has really become a laptop or netbook replacement yet.
I hope these steps help. If all else fails and you're still having issues, maybe this phone just won't do what you want it to do. I know, I know that a phone should do what it advertises but when it doesn't live up to it, it's time to step to a different device. The S4 was just released and the HTC One is supposed to be a smokin phone too. And with the documented cases of issues you've been having I bet they'd be more than happy to get you to a different device without having to pay full price.
Again I hope these help.
rangercaptain said:
OP you went through five iphones and five notes?
I don't think the phone is the problem.
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Well explain how this happens:
- Three iphones in a row had an issue with getting dust under the screen. At the time I had an office job, so the phone saw clean slacks pockets and my desk at home, nothing else. The first time it happened they did a screen replacement first and the problem persisted. I never exposed them to extreme environments, never dropped them, nothing.
-I have had the audio port on my Note fail on three different Notes. I use headphones maybe once or twice a week, and when I drive I sometimes plug it up to my tape adapter. They are never subjected to unreasonable force, I never jam the plug in there or anything etc.
-I have had iphones and Notes run at about 30-50% overall speed as the others I have tried, when they are 100% fresh straight from the factory and have not had a single 3rd party app installed or anything.
-I have PC components from the 80's, a circa 2000 HDD based MP3 player from iriver I even used while skateboarding, an original NES and gameboy, the original Razor and countless other electronic devices that have performed flawlessly in the time that I have owned them.
Seriously, explain to me how it is my fault that all five galaxy notes I have tried fail to download a simple image file no matter how good my connection is.
Explain to me why every email application I have used on any smartphone, ios or droid, is so ****ing slow that after hitting refresh inbox I can switch to my browser, open my email providers page, type in my login infox and open my mailbox quicker than the app. Explain why its my fault I can refresh my inbox when I expect mail, see nothing, refresh it again immediately, then have it download five emails from an hour ago. What did I do wrong?
Explain to me why a week ago my phone decided I can't upload images due to "insufficient memory" despite having changed no settings, added no new apps etc. Explain to me what else I can do after resetting the phone, deleting chromes cache, manually stopping and disabling every non essential app that was running, clearing all running processes, clearing ram and resizing the photo. Explain to me why after all that I still cannot upload that photo with Chrome or any other browser, but I can intentionally run as many apps as I can at once, then upload the full size, unedited photo with an imgur app and it goes through no problem. How is that my fault?
How is it my fault that my battery dropped 5% in the time it took me to type this with screen brightness cranked to a minimum, no other apps running, wifi bluetooth and gps disabled and my phone plugged in to a known good outlet with factory wdapters? How is this my fault that I cannot use my phone and charge it at the same time?
How is it my fault that the camera app will not keep my shortcuts?
How is it my fault that a week ago, my music playing application decided to do the following: I pick x song off y album and let it play through a few songs. Q song, the fifth one in the album, is currently playing. I decide I want to listen to another artist. I unlock my phone and go back to the app while the song is still playing. As soon as I open the app it stops the current song and restarts the last song I opened, closing out song Q for song X. It never did that before. I changed no settings. What did I do wrong?
I have a total of maybe five apps I've even downloaded since getting this phone. A 1mb< notepad app, chrome, a sketchbook program and pdanet. All except the last were straight from googles store.
I just dont know. I feel like I paid 500$ for pure, condensed frustration that fits conveniently into my pocket. Every other electronic device I own does what it is supposed to. My PS3 doesnt decide to just stop working. My Wii is a tank. My car is a champ. My digital cameras are workhorses. What is so difficult about obtaining a functional smartphone?
I am A+ and Network+ certified. I know the basically means jack ****, but I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to electronics. I know how to take care of them, I know how to teoubleshoot. I built my first PC before my voice cracked. When I try to troubleshoot my phone I feel less productive than if I were to bang my head against a wall.
boneless9000 said:
I am A+ and Network+ certified. I know the basically means jack ****, but I'm not a complete idiot when it comes to electronics. I know how to take care of them, I know how to teoubleshoot. I built my first PC before my voice cracked. When I try to troubleshoot my phone I feel less productive than if I were to bang my head against a wall.
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As an A+ certified tech myself, you should know there is nothing like wiping the hard drive and starting over fresh.
The previous poster walks you through to factory reset the device, which is what I would recommend as well.
When wiping select factory data reset and wipe the cache too.
This will erase the internal SD card contents. Transfer that stuff over to external SD if you need it.
Set it up. Give it a couple reboots.
Computers and phones are different beasts. As I have incorporated the latter more into my business as of recent.
Hey boneless, I'm sorry to have offended you. Remember, I don't know anything about your background or your technical skills. I don't know how high your expectations of electronics are. So please, no offence intended. I'm just passing on my observation in an open forum.
If you want to blow off steam, go ahead. And I hope some of the suggestions help.