Radio: No Signal - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Android General

My installation has been working fine and I even managed to increase battery life by installing "Juice".
Suddenly, about 3 days ago I noticed the phone was saying no signal. I was clearly getting data, as my apps worked and I was getting eMail alerts and downloads, but no calls.
I tried restarts, but to no avail. I am using Rod_100 UK as I am on Vodafone UK... I assume it is correct, certainly worked for the past month.
I have had to revert back to Windows Mobile.
My immediate thoughts are it is Juice that is causing it. I have just logged back in to my XDAndroid to write this and Juice did not load, and guess what, the signal has come back.......
Just in case is there anything else to look for?

Never heard of "Juice". I have heard of JuiceDefender however...
If you don't have the issue on a clean install, I'd say that app (or one of many I'm assuming you have installed) is the culprit. Rename your data.img and boot, see what happens.

Yes, it is JuiceDefender, apologies for the abbreviation.
I un-installed it and I have network again, but I guess I will loose battery longevity again, not that it made a huge difference.
I'll keep my eye on it....

Still no improvement
No, still not working. I get no signal, when I am in eye shot of a mast and on WM I get a full signal. I am booting in to WM to a deluge of SMS messages that I had not received, mostly vMail notifications, to which the messages are from calls that I did not receive.
The radio is not as strong and keeps dying on me requiring a reboot

I dont know what exactly but some program is giving android problems

jonners59 said:
No, still not working. I get no signal, when I am in eye shot of a mast and on WM I get a full signal. I am booting in to WM to a deluge of SMS messages that I had not received, mostly vMail notifications, to which the messages are from calls that I did not receive.
The radio is not as strong and keeps dying on me requiring a reboot
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All I can say is do the standard mess.
Make sure you're up to date.*
Delete (move, rename) data.img.
Format SD. Full format. HP tool.
*There's a lot of testing stuff flying around right now too, making that difficult admittedly. Hopefully the auto-build service will return soon, and all the madness will get committed soon!

Check in your startup file forcecdma=0. I had that problem too.

wormy315 said:
Check in your startup file forcecdma=0. I had that problem too.
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The command is force_cdma=X....

arrrghhh said:
The command is force_cdma=X....
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OK, I have tried deleting the data.mag
Didn't work
Have just changed "force_cdma=0" to "force_cdma=X" Will see if this works and feed back
My gut feeling is it is something to do with "JuiceDefender".

jonners59 said:
OK, I have tried deleting the data.mag
Didn't work
Have just changed "force_cdma=0" to "force_cdma=X" Will see if this works and feed back
My gut feeling is it is something to do with "JuiceDefender".
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Uhm, you replace X with a value. 0 if you're GSM, 1 if you're CDMA....

arrrghhh said:
Uhm, you replace X with a value. 0 if you're GSM, 1 if you're CDMA....
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Well I took it literally, as I have no idea, sorry. I'll put it back... Anyway, I have another problem now anyway. Having made the change it will not boot. I checked the permissions and it is not "Executable" any more. I have tried changing it but it will not let me. How do I fix this - I am accessing via my laptop which is Ubuntu (Linux).
Can you help, please?

jonners59 said:
Well I took it literally, as I have no idea, sorry. I'll put it back... Anyway, I have another problem now anyway. Having made the change it will not boot. I checked the permissions and it is not "Executable" any more. I have tried changing it but it will not let me. How do I fix this - I am accessing via my laptop which is Ubuntu (Linux).
Can you help, please?
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What is not "Executable" any more... haret.exe?

The startup file
Sorry, ignore me.
After the change, I double clicked the Android shortcut to launch Android, but it would not start, so I assumed the file had to be executable (as it was the only item I had changed)... I had forgotten to disconnect my TP2 from my laptop!
I've done so now and it has launched. A stupid user errorhttp://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
I'll keep you posted on any changes.

Ha, fair enough. Enjoy.

Solved. Keep loosing Radio
OK. I tried all the above. Delete data.img, and check the startup script/cmd.... none worked. At some point I would loose the network connection.
As it started within days of loading JuiceDefender and its components and from the description of how it works - controls the running apps including radio and data transfer, I always suspected it to be the root cause. After the other checks failed I tried removing all Juice Defender apps and since then c30hrs I have not experienced any loss of communication.
Thanks everyone for your help, and I hope this will be of use to anyone else suffering from loosing radio/ signal.

jonners59 said:
OK. I tried all the above. Delete data.img, and check the startup script/cmd.... none worked. At some point I would loose the network connection.
As it started within days of loading JuiceDefender and its components and from the description of how it works - controls the running apps including radio and data transfer, I always suspected it to be the root cause. After the other checks failed I tried removing all Juice Defender apps and since then c30hrs I have not experienced any loss of communication.
Thanks everyone for your help, and I hope this will be of use to anyone else suffering from loosing radio/ signal.
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It has been a number of days now and I have not experienced the same issue, so my conclusion is that it is the JuiceDefender that caused the problem.
The down side now is that I get 7am to 4pm battery life as opposed to 7am to 7pm.... But atleast I can receive and make calls!
A note: The signal strength on the project image is not as strong as the WM6.5, but I am sure that is a known issue.

jonners59 said:
It has been a number of days now and I have not experienced the same issue, so my conclusion is that it is the JuiceDefender that caused the problem.
The down side now is that I get 7am to 4pm battery life as opposed to 7am to 7pm.... But atleast I can receive and make calls!
A note: The signal strength on the project image is not as strong as the WM6.5, but I am sure that is a known issue.
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Hrm, didn't realize that app would help out that much. But, it makes sense if it's turning off all your radios lol.
Anyhoo, have you seen the kernel I posted from WisTilt2? It has full panel collapse, and battery life is astounding with it.
Code has yet to be committed, as he still has some work to do for the AUO panels (select RHOD100's basically) - so unless you have one of those you can reap the benefits of his new code .
(bzo got nearly 65 hrs with the radio on, sync off - 100% sleep.)

Looks interesting, but where do I download the latest version... I don't plan reading all the threads! And IF I installed would I loose all my settings and apps?

Update
It has been a while since I did all this tinkering, during which time there has been an update.
What I find I get is sometimes (c every couple of days) the meter says I have signal but nothing connects with a message "no network". Also, but far more frequent, as with today where it has occurred 3 times, I dial a number and nothing happens. It says ringing but there is no ring tone and it never seems to connect. I then shut the call down either by using the hang up button or the soft hang up key. The screen then changes to "Hanging Up" but again sits there indefinitely. The only solution id to do a restart.....
Any ideas?
PS: any news on when the bluetooth and camera will be working...?

I have found that any app that acts as a task killer of any sort (juice defender must in someway stop apps to save battery) can also kill your connection. I found this out while using xdandroid and it became immiediately clear when I stopped using the task killer my bars and data proved to be more consistant! Hope that helps.
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GPS Lock Problems after upgrade.

I was getting 15-20 second gps locks when I had radio .40 and DCD 3.2.6, but as soon as I upgraded the radio and DCD then it's taking like over 7-9 minutes to get a lock. Sometimes it won't lock at all anymore unless I do a hard reset on the phone. I'm not sure what happened. Does anybody have any ideas? Look at my signiture below for my current configuration.
What's the best Radio and ROM to use right now with the least amount of problems, etc.? I was looking at the V2.2 heavy and light, but I'm not sure if I really understand much about what they are about or the differences in what I have now. I think my biggest problem is with text messaging. If I do it a lot I have to keep restarting my phone because the memory goes down to zero in no time at all. Infact, I have to keep constantly clearing the memory if I use any programs at all. Thanks for your help and time!
Try either 3.3.4 or 3.2.6. I prefer 3.3.4
after all of my testing i ended up sticking with 3.2.6. did you do the aGPS fix? have you checked the QPST settings since your flash? generally, these settings should stick, but in some cases; such as when you need a new a-key, these settings are lost. my last flash removed all my QPST settings and i couldnt lock until i did the aGPS fix again with the updated IP address and port.
Well, in the past it kept all the information after I did the upgrade, so I just assumed it still did. I didn't need a new A-Key. I guess I'll check the QPST settings and do the aGPS fix again. It's been so long ago since I did all the GPS stuff I can't remember what I did and didn't do. I still do get locks but they take forever now and sometimes I don't get them until I restart the phone.
Why are you sticking with 3.2.6? Why don't you like 4.1.2 or 2.2 heavy or light? I've always had the memory problem where if I use programs it just eats up my memory and I don't get most of it back after exiting the software, and if I use my text messaging then my memory just goes down to zero in no time flat and I can't recover it unless I'm constatly restarting my phone. There must be some kind of fix for this. Please let me know. Thanks.. Steve
kflipproductions said:
after all of my testing i ended up sticking with 3.2.6. did you do the aGPS fix? have you checked the QPST settings since your flash? generally, these settings should stick, but in some cases; such as when you need a new a-key, these settings are lost. my last flash removed all my QPST settings and i couldnt lock until i did the aGPS fix again with the updated IP address and port.
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the QPST settings have changed, so if you did it a while ago you probably just need to update it. youll be locking again after that. ive tested all of dcds roms quite a bit, and always ended up back at 3.2.6 or 3.2.5. im really happy with the speed and everything works exactly as it should. i have a pretty heavy today screen load as well as running several apps at the same time. i didnt like the 4.x.x roms for a couple of reasons. the unread text message thing bugged me alot. i also had a problem with random hard resets, which i was not a fan of.
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the QPST settings have changed, so if you did it a while ago you probably just need to update it.
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Are the changes in the AGPS thread?
yes they are
Oh, really? Then that's probably part of the problem. I changed them maybe a year ago or longer. I tried running QPST to check and it's giving me an error message when I start it, so I'm going to have to try to reinstall it and see if that fixes it. Also, the links for the pictures are dead and they aren't coming up anymore, it makes it harder to figure it out.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=VerizonAGPSFix
I ran the Serf Telus aGPS Provisioning CAB file and that seemed to help. I sometimes get locks under 1 minute now, but sometimes it won't lock at all and I have to keep soft booting the phone to get it working.
Oh, so that's why my phone keeps resetting? It's not hard resetting I think it's just soft resetting. At first I didn't like the unread text message thing, but now I do because I get a lot of text messages and when I go to read them it doesn't mark them all as read in the group and I can read them when I get a chance.
I still had the memory issues with the 3.2.6 ROM with my memory going down to nothing, especually when I did text messages, I had to keep restarting my phone. That's been a problem I had with all my ROMs. I wonder why that is? Could it be the version of the MMS software I'm using? Is it the latest version?
Maybe I should go to the MR1 ROM? I still will be able to use the GPS and the WiFiRouter software with it right? Maybe that will solve all my problems? What about the 2.2 light and heavy ROMs? Does anybody know anything about those? Thanks for your help and time...
kflipproductions said:
the QPST settings have changed, so if you did it a while ago you probably just need to update it. youll be locking again after that. ive tested all of dcds roms quite a bit, and always ended up back at 3.2.6 or 3.2.5. im really happy with the speed and everything works exactly as it should. i have a pretty heavy today screen load as well as running several apps at the same time. i didnt like the 4.x.x roms for a couple of reasons. the unread text message thing bugged me alot. i also had a problem with random hard resets, which i was not a fan of.
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Well, I uninstalled QPST and reinstalled it and it worked this time without any error messages. It seems if I don't use it for a while it gives me a error message if I try to use it again and I have to uninstall it and reinstall it and then it works OK. I don't remember the error message, but I think it's something about can't find a server or something.
Anyways, you were right about the information I had being old and not correct. I had 66.174.95.132 and 8888 instead of PDE IP Address: 216.198.139.92 and PDE Port Number: 8889. I corrected it and it still seems to take about 56 seconds to get a lock, but hopefully now it will be more reliable in getting the locks. I seem to remember in the past getting locks in less then 10-15 seconds, and I wonder why I can't get locks like that anymore.
Thanks for the help!
Well, I was wrong, I'm getting 15-20 second locks now and I'm getting twice the satalites, up too like 9 satelites and I was getting 1/2 that before and it's a lot more accurate now. Before when I was using Google Maps, I could see it was off like about 50-75ft, but now it's spot on, on my location. Hopefully someone knows the answers to some of my previous questions and can get back to me. Thanks..
I too was having this same exact problem and I had to update the QPST IP address and port again. Mine had reverted to the same thing that Apota's had, with the exception of my default port being 8888. All is working well now that I reset the QPST IP address. I get 6-8 sats and locks in about 10 seconds.
I had been experimenting with some of the RyanMogul's new ROMs when this broke for me. I tried 2.1 light and it stopped working. I'm currently running 1.1 light with it functioning after reusing QPST.
DustinEarnhardt said:
I too was having this same exact problem and I had to update the QPST IP address and port again. Mine had reverted to the same thing that Apota's had, with the exception of my default port being 8888. All is working well now that I reset the QPST IP address. I get 6-8 sats and locks in about 10 seconds.
I had been experimenting with some of the RyanMogul's new ROMs when this broke for me. I tried 2.1 light and it stopped working. I'm currently running 1.1 light with it functioning after reusing QPST.
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I just upgraded to the v2.2 light. I think I'm going to have to get use to it because the interface is so different, but I got a GPS lock with my TomTom GPS software in about 4 seconds. I couldn't believe it. I haven't seen a lock that fast before. It's really awesome! LOL

Data connection driving me nuts

Was very happy with devoid, then flashed void forever. Could connect to 2G after the flash for quite a while. Next morning 2G disappeared and randomly reappeared. And then played hide and seek, with extended periods of hide.
Flashed devoid back tonight. Everything was ok. Then it started again! Aaaaaaaaaargh. I've been on this network in this city for 2 years and I never drop my data connection. Works very nicely. Even before void forever it was great. But I don't think it's because of the ROM, prolly something I did.
Could it be related to d2sd? Where are APNs stored? I have ungaze. With the old devoid I had nothing and then DT for a while, so I suspect something related to the d2sd script? Any system logs anywhere for mobile data?
TIA, I write for a living so I often need to mail folks while I'm on the move and this is really really really effing my happiness!
istoner said:
Was very happy with devoid, then flashed void forever. Could connect to 2G after the flash for quite a while. Next morning 2G disappeared and randomly reappeared. And then played hide and seek, with extended periods of hide.
Flashed devoid back tonight. Everything was ok. Then it started again! Aaaaaaaaaargh. I've been on this network in this city for 2 years and I never drop my data connection. Works very nicely. Even before void forever it was great. But I don't think it's because of the ROM, prolly something I did.
Could it be related to d2sd? Where are APNs stored? I have ungaze. With the old devoid I had nothing and then DT for a while, so I suspect something related to the d2sd script? Any system logs anywhere for mobile data?
TIA, I write for a living so I often need to mail folks while I'm on the move and this is really really really effing my happiness!
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its not abt d2sd but it may be wrong with ur apn settings...
so first check the apn setting as
settings->wireless... ->mobile...
there u have seen the Apn tap on that
then check the already settings were there are correror not
or try to create new settings as
menu-> NewAPN
THEN GIVE THE APN NAME
IP
PORT
SAVE THEM
CHECK THE NEWLY CREATED SETTINGS
Umm no my friend, my APNs are alright. I'm not that stupid ;-) Ive reinstalled my MMS and Browser APNs many times over.
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Maybe temporary problem with ur provider..give it some more time..
What provider are you with? Because your connection dropping might not even be an issue with something you flashed, merely convenient timing lol.
Check the provider website or something, ask friends who are on the same network. Maybe that's it
Hehe, yes it could be cruel timing. I'm on Vodafone. Fine will hold my horses for now I guess.
Maybe custom ROMs are not yet ready for mission critical applications, such as yours where your work requires stable interconnectivity.
I just had this happen to me. In fact, its even *WORSE*; my phone refuses to make any data connection, even over (connected!) WLAN.
However, the internet is actually working fine, both WLAN and 2G/3G. Running adb, I can ping internet hosts with wlan enabled and disabled, but all of the applications that use internet (browser, market, email) gives errors.
I've tried clearing cache and dalvik from CWM, but no change......
I have no idea WTF is going on, and why it suddenly stopped working correctly.
maintain minimum talk time balance. only then internet pack or data connection will work. have a minimum of 10 bucks I'm your pre paid balance apart from your internet recharge.
nikhil4186 said:
maintain minimum talk time balance. only then internet pack or data connection will work. have a minimum of 10 bucks I'm your pre paid balance apart from your internet recharge.
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I dont have prepaid/PAYG. I've also had problem with my wifi connection getting associated, but getting stuck at "Obtaining IP address......."
I still dont know whats causing this, and why it appeared, nor how to solve it (I did reboot my phone a few times, wiped the cache and dalvik) and eventually (after deleting and recreating the APN) got it working again. So I'm relatively happy for now.....
well this sounds crazy, it happens to me also, but in a different way, the "E" icon totally disappears after 9pm, what i do is change the clock to am and its back again,
weird, don't know its my provider or rom thats playing around

FIXED: "Processing..." and page loads, take forever.

searched, no find.
I have two consistent issues.
1 - When retrieving sites requiring a login, or when logging into LastPass, if I can get to the "Processing..." popup, it will hang and sit. Sometimes it will complete Processing... after a couple minutes, and sometimes it will continue until I kill the app. This issue is frequent, so restarting the app is not an acceptable workaround.
2 - When loading a page it will often do the same but without a popup. It will take forever to load, sometimes not at all. Occasionally I can reload the page and it will work, occasionally it will not load at until I reboot the phone or something.
these issues seem to occur frequently on home wifi. my PC, also on wifi, will load from these servers instantly.
i have had the issue on the following:
stock
Unnamed latest
Shostock latest
entropy dd latest, and last two
siyah latest and previous
with/without overclocking
with/without data enabled
affects all browsers, lastpass, tapatalk, xda premium, etc, etc.
caches cleared, including dalvik
no stress on the phone, running usually 250-500MB RAM only.
any ideas? the phone is basically unusable as a smartphone at home. the issues may or may not be as bad on regular data. TIA.
one more try... anyone help with this issue?
You state that this is mostly happening on your home Wi-Fi connection; is it possible that you have some sort of QoS / traffic shaping setup on your wireless AP / router that may be resulting in this condition? Also, do you have any of this type of behavior on cellular 3G or other Wi-FI connected networks?
jermneedscoffee said:
You state that this is mostly happening on your home Wi-Fi connection; is it possible that you have some sort of QoS / traffic shaping setup on your wireless AP / router that may be resulting in this condition? Also, do you have any of this type of behavior on cellular 3G or other Wi-FI connected networks?
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thanks for the reply.
the issue is inconsistent even at home. i have been watching for causal conditions but not finding anything yet. it does not appear to be my wifi. no other devices have ever had any kind of problem, and there have been many (i share the my wpa2 wifi with neighbors as well, many smartphones, etc). yes, the issue frequently affects me off wifi on data. and yes, it occurs at my office wifi as well. but the intermittent nature makes me think it's something with the phone's software, which is why i'm focused on figuring this out here. when it rains it pours, and i will have to reboot the phone, not just kill my browser or other app, in order to connect. sometimes rebooting more than once is required.
Have you tried a 'wipe data / factory reset' in ClockworkMod Recovery?
yes, i did actually. the issue is happening even loading basic google searches out on H+. the page will usually load, but will take literally 3+ minutes to load it. i'm not sure what's going on but it seems there's something going on between me and the servers that is hanging my data retrieval. i'm mystified. but the phone is literally stuck on page loads & data retrieval about 70% of the time. i don't have any weird software running in the bg either. pretty basic Entropy DD (tried the last 2) and ShoStock latest. is it possible there is some hidden settings somewhere i can look at? i have scoured all available settings on the phone, but there's gotta be something deeper i can look at. any recommended system tweak apps for this?
VR32 said:
yes, i did actually. the issue is happening even loading basic google searches out on H+. the page will usually load, but will take literally 3+ minutes to load it. i'm not sure what's going on but it seems there's something going on between me and the servers that is hanging my data retrieval. i'm mystified. but the phone is literally stuck on page loads & data retrieval about 70% of the time. i don't have any weird software running in the bg either. pretty basic Entropy DD (tried the last 2) and ShoStock latest. is it possible there is some hidden settings somewhere i can look at? i have scoured all available settings on the phone, but there's gotta be something deeper i can look at. any recommended system tweak apps for this?
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I get similar things. Looks like my modem or connection is freaking out.. Did a factory return to kk6. Still didn't fix it. I'm thinking its hardware. Can't figure out what it is cause no laptop right now..
Just wanted to let you know your not alone.
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rdannar said:
I get similar things. Looks like my modem or connection is freaking out.. Did a factory return to kk6. Still didn't fix it. I'm thinking its hardware. Can't figure out what it is cause no laptop right now..
Just wanted to let you know your not alone.
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thanks for the feedback. is your phone a refurb?
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thanks for the feedback. is your phone a refurb?
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Nope. Got it new with contract
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ok, mine is a refurb, but has not appeared to have even a single hardware issue. guess i'll continue to cycle new software and see if this eventually irons out. next step is to get more into the system settings and investigate. my initial guess is my phone is sending repeated requests in the background.
if anyone is interested, i may have found the problem. i'm no networking guru, but i changed my phone's DNS settings to OpenDNS's servers like my home router's config. previously my phone was using Google's DNS servers. after changing the phone to OpenDNS loads are consistent and snappy like every other box in the house. keeping an eye, but so far so good.
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Any progress with that "loosing connection to google services" problem?

Ever since I got my first Android device (Galaxy Nexus) I had the problem that Gmail and Google Talk just often won't notify me about new messages. It works fine sometimes but often there is a delay between a few seconds and several hours until it finally notifies me (if at all that is).
It's basically freaking useless. I just can't rely on it so I end up checking for messages and mail manually every few minutes.
Things that don't affect the problem:
Device and Android Version. Plenty of people reported this problem and it's just not limited to one device or version.
If the screen is turned off or not. It even stops working while Talk is open (not in the background).
How the phone connects to the internet. At home it's using the same connection as my PC, while it just won't notify me of an new e-mail the Talk client on the PC manages it without problems.
ROM/Kernel don't seem matter either. Also did plenty of factory resets.
All I can find are old and/or unanswered threads.
Like those:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673579
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=22570
I'd have ditched Android by now if there would be a good alternative. But it's either Android, iOS or Windows Phone...
Sign out of google talk and gmail.do a battery pull, then a factory reset, then try again.
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my advice. backup what you need(ie. text messages) and just clear data, revert to stock image
LORDFIRE00 said:
Sign out of google talk and gmail.do a battery pull, then a factory reset, then try again.
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I don't really get how this could help. Don't feel like doing yet another reset unless it could really have an effect.
-DarkKnight- said:
my advice. backup what you need(ie. text messages) and just clear data, revert to stock image
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ROM and Kernel don't seem to matter. That includes for example stock, Cyanogen and franco kernel.
Did a factory reset like 100 times before, just this time logged out first. Didn't help, how unexpected.
Another option, contact sprint, have them do a. Profile refresh. Also update ur prl twice. Now that I think about, it could be a slight network issue in connection with ur device (hard to explain)
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I'm in Europe. No sprint here.
I'll replace my Nexus with an S III today. Guess I'm about to find out if it's affected too.
Will probably be hard to do any further tests with the Nexus because my SIM is going to have a little meeting with a scissor.
Didn't get too many messages yet but some of them were definitely several minutes late. Guess the S III is affected too. Just great.
Am I the only person with this problem?
Still happening and renders the phone mostly useless.
At least some ideas on how to pinpoint the problem?

[Q] no push notifications on wifi with KK

I upgraded my phone to KK back in late december and have been on it ever since but one problem has plagued me since then and I'm hoping to get some insight here. heres the problem...
When im connected to wifi (and this is only with wifi, not MD) I don't get my push notifications (gmail,fb,words,hangouts,etc) when the screen is off.Often i turn my screen on and get a barrage of notifications that i should have gotten hours ago. Ive tried all the sleep modes and Ive tried turning off wifi optimization.Nothing works and I know for fact it did not do this on JB.
I DO get text messages and phone calls instantly though but nothing else will wake my phone up. While i do enjoy the deep sleep, i would like to get my notifications in a reasonable amount of time without having to turn the phone on to check them.
Has anyone else had this "problem"?
Nope. Have you looked into what is and isn't checked in your Google Settings? There's a Play Games tab that allows you to mute certain games, essentially stopping their notifications. I don't suppose you've messed with that, have you?
It's strange, I've not really heard of this, especially since you're getting texts and such.
SteveMurphy said:
Nope. Have you looked into what is and isn't checked in your Google Settings? There's a Play Games tab that allows you to mute certain games, essentially stopping their notifications. I don't suppose you've messed with that, have you?
It's strange, I've not really heard of this, especially since you're getting texts and such.
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Yeah i know and I've googled it to death for a few months now. I'll check g settings but idk why that would stop gmail. It's like when I'm on Wi-Fi w/ the screen off its just a plain old dumb phone. I turn the screen on and the notifications just flood in.
Edit: nothing in g settings is muted. The only thing i can think of is i don't have app data synced in accounts.
I think i figured it out. I had "sync app data" unchecked in accounts. So far I've been getting notifications screen on and off. Now if someone will just play back to me on wwf...
EDIT: i may have spoke too soon. It still doesnt wake up without turning on my screen
hey @SteveMurphy do you by chance use the active display?
razen_kain said:
hey @SteveMurphy do you by chance use the active display?
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I did when I was using Omni and it worked great. I haven't used it since running RR, however.
So you're wifi connected, and have actively turned mobile data off? I have never even tried that...
If, however, you mean that this happens only when you're connected to WiFi, then no, I have not experienced this issue.
The only other setting that I can think of that pertains to sync is in system settings > Data usage > settings > [ ] auto-sync data, but I don't think that would cause the awake-vs-sleep sync issues that you're describing.
I used to use Active display, I currently use AcDisplay, I'll likely go back to using the baked-in active display.
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[...](and this is only with wifi, not MD) I don't get my push notifications (gmail,fb,words,hangouts,etc) when the screen is off.[...]
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cyril279 said:
So you're wifi connected, and have actively turned mobile data off? I have never even tried that...
If, however, you mean that this happens only when you're connected to WiFi, then no, I have not experienced this issue.
The only other setting that I can think of that pertains to sync is in system settings > Data usage > settings > [ ] auto-sync data, but I don't think that would cause the awake-vs-sleep sync issues that you're describing.
I used to use Active display, I currently use AcDisplay, I'll likely go back to using the baked-in active display.
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No i never turn mobile data off. I just meant that notifications come as expected when I'm on mobile data but on Wi-Fi, once the phone hits deep sleep (<a minute) i won't get notifications unless i turn the screen on.
I ask about active display because i remember when on resurrection ROM i was using it and getting notifications then and kind of forgot about it but I'm on PAC 4.4 now and it's doing it again. However i was using the init.d scripts they have baked in but have them all turned back off now to see if that fixes it.
It's the strangest thing I've seen. It's like when I'm on Wi-Fi and turn the screen off it just disconnects from all data even though i can plainly see that it is not. Angela has the same phone with the same settings as mine but on RR 5.0.5 and she gets notifications fine.
@cyril279 I knnow this is off topic but have you tried this AD app? Its got some other features/customizations that aren't on the built in AD
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications
That was actually one of the first active-display variants that I tried. It worked well, but there were a couple hiccups that kept me shopping. The add-on AD clones have great features, but they don't play well with the stock lockscreen, or they leave the [home] button active, or involve significant lag when evoking the notification. The baked-in clones operate fluidly, but without the cool-stuff. I haven't tried active notifications recently though, maybe the updates have smoothed things out. I'm definitely down to try it again.
AcDisplay's development has been re-directed by Motorola. It's still my favorite of the clones, the beta version is boss, but it still isn't as fluid as the built-in boring-ol Omni AD.
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@cyril279 I knnow this is off topic but have you tried this AD app? Its got some other features/customizations that aren't on the built in AD
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.greatbytes.activenotifications
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That was actually one of the first active-display variants that I tried. It worked well, but there were a couple hiccups that kept me shopping. The add-on AD clones have great features, but they don't play well with the stock lockscreen, or they leave the [home] button active, or involve significant lag when evoking the notification. The baked-in clones operate fluidly, but without the cool-stuff. I haven't tried active notifications recently though, maybe the updates have smoothed things out. I'm definitely down to try it again.
AcDisplay's development has been re-directed by Motorola. It's still my favorite of the clones, the beta version is boss, but it still isn't as fluid as the built-in boring-ol Omni AD.
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Well all my testing so far has lead me no where with the exception of using that app. So far, I've not been able to reproduce the problem while using it. The question is,"what is it doing" to make it work....
EDIT: The app does not fix it....
just thinking out loud herebut, could this be a kernel issue? Im currently using PAC's kernel that comes packaged in the rom. Maybe I should try @RenderBroken 's kernel...?
Edit: Using RB's kernel breaks some of the PAC features and it did not fix my notification issue
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42272
razen_kain said:
just thinking out loud herebut, could this be a kernel issue? Im currently using PAC's kernel that comes packaged in the rom. Maybe I should try @RenderBroken 's kernel...?
Edit: Using RB's kernel breaks some of the PAC features and it did not fix my notification issue
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=42272
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PAC uses a modified ramdisk compared to other CM derived roms. Are you only having issues trying to get PAC running on your phone? Is it KK or JB?
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PAC uses a modified ramdisk compared to other CM derived roms. Are you only having issues trying to get PAC running on your phone? Is it KK or JB?
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Its 4.4 and I have faced this issue on every rom Ive tried since switching to KK. Im starting to wonder if it's not an issue with my wifi. Im wondering if maybe my wifi is suspending my connection when my phone goes quiet.
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PAC uses a modified ramdisk compared to other CM derived roms...
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Render, great information as always. razen, I'm no help to you on this - just felt like popping in to say "hi".
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Render, great information as always. razen, I'm no help to you on this - just felt like popping in to say "hi".
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It's always good to have you around buddy.
[SOLVED] Not Receiving Notifications on WiFi
My suspicions have paid off!! I started suspecting my router was the culprit so i pulled out my old netgear2400 and hooked it up and low and behold my notifications starting lighting my phone up again!!
The problem was the Xfinity router that came from comcast. Apparently it was closing the "heartbeat" line to stay connected when the screen was off before the heartbeat would send again, if that makes sense.
For the time being I'm going to just use my netgear router BUT I was able to fix the problem with the Xfinity router by using an app called Push Notification Fixer. Just install it, follow the instructions, and set the WIFI/mobile data heartbeat to the recommended settings. If that don't work start shortening the heartbeat time. It'll make sense when you see the app.
Hope this helps someone else along the way. I went a LONG WAY down the google rabbit hole before I figured this one out.
Great news, glad it was an easy fix!
razen_kain said:
My suspicions have paid off!! I started suspecting my router was the culprit so i pulled out my old netgear2400 and hooked it up and low and behold my notifications starting lighting my phone up again!!
The problem was the Xfinity router that came from comcast. Apparently it was closing the "heartbeat" line to stay connected when the screen was off before the heartbeat would send again, if that makes sense.
For the time being I'm going to just use my netgear router BUT I was able to fix the problem with the Xfinity router by using an app called Push Notification Fixer. Just install it, follow the instructions, and set the WIFI/mobile data heartbeat to the recommended settings. If that don't work start shortening the heartbeat time. It'll make sense when you see the app.
Hope this helps someone else along the way. I went a LONG WAY down the google rabbit hole before I figured this one out.
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Great news! Now you just need to install DD-wrt on your router and turn it from a $40 router to a $400. I know you like to tinker but check it out. ITs free and its just firmware for certain routers. It turned my old wrt54g into a baus
razen_kain said:
My suspicions have paid off!! I started suspecting my router was the culprit so i pulled out my old netgear2400 and hooked it up and low and behold my notifications starting lighting my phone up again!!
The problem was the Xfinity router that came from comcast. Apparently it was closing the "heartbeat" line to stay connected when the screen was off before the heartbeat would send again, if that makes sense.
For the time being I'm going to just use my netgear router BUT I was able to fix the problem with the Xfinity router by using an app called Push Notification Fixer. Just install it, follow the instructions, and set the WIFI/mobile data heartbeat to the recommended settings. If that don't work start shortening the heartbeat time. It'll make sense when you see the app.
Hope this helps someone else along the way. I went a LONG WAY down the google rabbit hole before I figured this one out.
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I'm having the same issue with KitKat CM11 ROM on my HP Touchpad (which is WiFi only), and will have to try this. Notifications come in instantly on my iPhone/iPads, but my Touchpad gets some serious delays...sometimes right away, and sometimes delayed.
By the way, did "Sync App Data" setting for an account have anything to do with push notifications, or is that more for backup purposes?
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Oh darn, mine is still delayed even with the push notification fixer installed and WiFi heartbeat at 5min. Even after I've just rebooted my Touchpad, actively using it, and not even 5 minutes has passed. Delay was 8 minutes and then the notifications came streaming in.
With Android/KitKat, do you have to have the app open in the background for push notifications to go thru? Or run the app at least once after a reboot?

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