This maybe has been brought up before, but I wonder if the HDMI out from the Evo 3D could run a set of Vuzix 920 glasses. Sorry, forum won't let me post a link yet, but just google Vuzix Wrap 920.
Then you could play 3D movies and games on a "bigger" screen.
How would anybody know this? No one has the phone yet
If the glasses accept HDMI input then yes.
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This maybe has been brought up before, but I wonder if the HDMI out from the Evo 3D could run a set of Vuzix 920 glasses. Sorry, forum won't let me post a link yet, but just google Vuzix Wrap 920.
Then you could play 3D movies and games on a "bigger" screen.
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I asked a similar question earlier. Can you still view 3D content with glasses on a TV even if the TV or computer screen is not a "3D" tv?
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I asked a similar question earlier. Can you still view 3D content with glasses on a TV even if the TV or computer screen is not a "3D" tv?
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no, normal TVs/Monitors can't display the picture the way 3D glasses need it to work..... there is a more technical explanation but that is the summary
Can you use red&blue glasses to view 3D pictures on a non-3d tv?
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Can you use red&blue glasses to view 3D pictures on a non-3d tv?
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I am curious as to which 3D glasses will work when trying to view uploaded 3D content on youtube or HDMI out from the EVO 3D. Will any kind of 3D glasses work?
Some correct me if i'm wrong, but the 3d output with only be 3d if your PC/TV has 3D capabilities. To answer your question whatever glasses go with your TV/PC monitor. For viewing on your phone, none.
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Some correct me if i'm wrong, but the 3d output with only be 3d if your PC/TV has 3D capabilities. To answer your question whatever glasses go with your TV/PC monitor. For viewing on your phone, none.
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Some correct me if i'm wrong, but the 3d output with only be 3d if your PC/TV has 3D capabilities. To answer your question whatever glasses go with your TV/PC monitor. For viewing on your phone, none.
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I'm definitely not an expert but i was under the impression that these old versions of 3d are not compatible with glasses less 3d, there just separate technologies. And by that i mean you have to have a glasses less 3d tv/monitor to view the content captured/compatible with the Evo 3D. not 100% sure though
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I'm definitely not an expert but i was under the impression that these old versions of 3d are not compatible with glasses less 3d, there just separate technologies. And by that i mean you have to have a glasses less 3d tv/monitor to view the content captured/compatible with the Evo 3D. not 100% sure though
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLm8lXD6uU
works with a glasses 3d tv check out about from 3 min 9 sec into this video
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pLm8lXD6uU
works with a glasses 3d tv check out about from 3 min 9 sec into this video
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Awesome, i stand corrected. Thanks!
Since there is not yet an Evo 3D Q&A forum, I'm asking this here. I hope no one gets offended.
I know very little about 3D technology, but from what I gather, our Evo 3D will actually take two separate photos when in 3D mode and by virtue of the parallax effect, allow us to view them as a single 3D image on the phone. I get that and have no problem wrapping my head around the concept. I confused, however, about the 3D's video capture. I viewed some Evo 3D video content on Youtube and it appears to look like conventional red/blue 3D video, that is, it just appears blurry or out of focus to the naked eye. If I had a pair of those glasses they hand out at 3D movies, would the YT content look like a conventional 3D movie? I found a pair on Amazon for less than $4 shipped and if that's all it takes to view other folk's 3D content, I'll order a pair today.
Does anyone have thoughts or suggestions?
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Since there is not yet an Evo 3D Q&A forum, I'm asking this here. I hope no one gets offended.
I know very little about 3D technology, but from what I gather, our Evo 3D will actually take two separate photos when in 3D mode and by virtue of the parallax effect, allow us to view them as a single 3D image on the phone. I get that and have no problem wrapping my head around the concept. I confused, however, about the 3D's video capture. I viewed some Evo 3D video content on Youtube and it appears to look like conventional red/blue 3D video, that is, it just appears blurry or out of focus to the naked eye. If I had a pair of those glasses they hand out at 3D movies, would the YT content look like a conventional 3D movie? I found a pair on Amazon for less than $4 shipped and if that's all it takes to view other folk's 3D content, I'll order a pair today.
Does anyone have thoughts or suggestions?
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Saw it first hand. No glasses required.
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The videos actually upload to youtube as a side by side video, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi10cVU9B7U&feature=related.
If one has a 3d capable device, then the video is played back as 3d. however, if not, then the video is played back like it is above (assuming youre watching it on your 4g or laptop).
However, i have heard of people being able to use video editing software to put it into a stereoscopic red-blue type video and make it possible to use it with the 3d glasses.
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Saw it first hand. No glasses required.
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I don't mean on the device, I mean on YT.
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The videos actually upload to youtube as a side by side video, like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi10cVU9B7U&feature=related.
If one has a 3d capable device, then the video is played back as 3d. however, if not, then the video is played back like it is above (assuming youre watching it on your 4g or laptop).
However, i have heard of people being able to use video editing software to put it into a stereoscopic red-blue type video and make it possible to use it with the 3d glasses.
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OK, I get it now. The clip I saw must not have been generated by the Evo 3D because it was the red-blue type. That was the primary source of my confusion.
If you want something that'll really show off the 3D on your 3vo, you have to get this movie.
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If you want something that'll really show off the 3D on your 3vo, you have to get this movie.
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The IMAX Hubble 3D is really good too. the depth is almost too much. but great none the less.
Holy cow, yes! I use this one to: at around 21 minutes, the close-up of that fish popping out of the screen is amazing (they follow all the "rules" of 3D, so it looks fantastic).
Where can i get it?
.mkv works on evo?
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.mkv works on evo?
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Use the free app Handbrake to convert it to mp4. Search the forum, there are step by step instructions posted.
Does any one knows where can I get 3d movies
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Forget the movie, what are these "rules" for 3D?
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Forget the movie, what are these "rules" for 3D?
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I spoke with my neighborhood stereoscopy expert (30-years of experience, custom-built camera rig, home-theater setup with polarized projectors, etc.) and learned quite a bit about 3D imagery. Thought I'd share some general facts and other factors that cause eye strain and headaches.
Regarding images that pop out: already proven possible with the screen technology. But will the phone's camera be able to capture a subject and then show it popping out? Most likely, but not guaranteed.
In another thread, I incorrectly concluded that the focal point determines the threshold where things pop out or appear behind the screen. Actually that threshold is fixed based on the distance between the lens and the offset of the sensors behind the lenses. I have no visibility into how the E3D's sensors are set, so there's no way to guess what the zero parallax line lies. However, once the phone is released, it will be trivial to determine this by taking a picture of a ruler (or tape measure) that extends from the camera. If you overlay the stereo images in photoshop, the ruler will appear as a thin X. Where the convergence of the X is on the ruler will be the zero parallax line (aka point of convergence).
Objects farther from zero parallax will appear behind the display; objects closer will appear to pop out from the screen.
This article makes it really simple to understand:
STEREOSCOPIC (3D) FILMMAKING OVERVIEW Part 2
Commonly, the distance between cameras (aka the stereo base) is set to the human interocular distance (distance between human eyes), which is about 2.5". But there's no real reason why this needs to be enforced; it really depends on the scale of your subject. If you're taking a picture of insects, your camera lenses should be much closer together. If you're taking a picture of the grand canyon, the cameras should be very far apart. Again, that article above talks about why you may want to use cameras that are further apart. But a moot point for E3D since we can't adjust the cameras. But given that the Evo's cameras are kinda close together, the best 3D shots will be with subjects closer to the screen.
Onto the discomfort.
My source tells me that pop-out is actually not very desirable for two reasons:
1) it causes eye strain due to the need to focus on a point close to the eyes (cross-eye). Prolonged cross-eye is not comfortable.
2) when a pop-out object is cropped by the edge of the screen, our brain freaks out because it conflicts with reality. The object should appear in front of the edge and not be cut off. This is considered a violation of good stereoscopy and should be avoided.
Another violation is an exaggeration of depth where the distance between stereo images exceeds the interocular distance. This isn't going to be a problem with the Evo 3D's images, but this is much more common in a theater. Film producers sometimes push the limit to try to give the scene maximum depth by spacing out the parallax images. This can trigger instant headaches. Also if you sit too close to the screen, the problem becomes amplified.
He rattled off a few more violations that I can't recall, but basically he says that the violations are what make 3D gimmicky, and it's also responsible for the discomfort and inability to see in 3D for some subset of the public. When the rules of stereoscopy are obeyed, the results are spectacular and comfortable to view, because they simulate depth realistically.
Just sharing for those of you actually interested in the 3D capabilities of the phone.
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Thanks for the link and info on 3D. That was a pretty good read. I definitely feel the discomfort of items that pop out and are cut off by the boarder of the screen. Very surreal.
dca1970 said:
Where can i get it?
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You can get it from here but you'll have to convert it using Handbrake which is free.
Here's a tutorial:
I followed the tutorial with another 3D movie I had and it ended up looking great but the audio is choppy. Would MP3 perform better or should I try kicking the samplerate down to 44.1 or lower?
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I followed the tutorial with another 3D movie I had and it ended up looking great but the audio is choppy. Would MP3 perform better or should I try kicking the samplerate down to 44.1 or lower?
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Not sure since I don't know crap about encoding videos but I followed that tutorial and all the movies I encoded turned out fine. Maybe it was a problem with that particular rip of your movie?
I followed the directions for converting the file and it's not in 3D. It plays but it's side by side videos.
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I followed the directions for converting the file and it's not in 3D. It plays but it's side by side videos.
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You have to hit the menu button and switch to 3D mode.
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Not sure since I don't know crap about encoding videos but I followed that tutorial and all the movies I encoded turned out fine. Maybe it was a problem with that particular rip of your movie?
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Hmm ... thanks for your feedback. I tried watching the movie on my desktop and found it was messed up there as well, so it's not an issue with the phone player. I tested both aac encoders, the lame mp3 encoder, and even ac3 (each at various bitrates) with the same result. The original video (mkv) plays fine...
Edit: I tried another video and the settings worked fine. Not sure what the deal is with this particular video (Hubble 3D).
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You have to hit the menu button and switch to 3D mode.
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Thanks that worked
Wait so besides you can "look into" like a box, images can also "jump out"?
Nice!!! Or not, if i read that article lol.
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Holy cow, yes! I use this one to: at around 21 minutes, the close-up of that fish popping out of the screen is amazing (they follow all the "rules" of 3D, so it looks fantastic).
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Wow - you're right. That part looks amazing! I'm going to try to rip just that clip tonight and put it up on Youtube so everyone else can see it.
As a side note, I've found that the angle to view 3d on my phone is not straight on. I have to hold it at a bit of an angle with the right side of the phone further away from my face than the left. Is that what everyone else is finding or are you guys viewing things pretty much dead on?
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Does any one knows where can I get 3d movies
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SBS or Side-By-Side is the key search term to find 3D movies. Just go to one of the usual places and search it.
After spending some time trying to figure out a way to make some nice 3d videos of music visualizations I think I got them to look pretty good.
My main attempt was to get the videos to be the in your face type 3D, you know the kind that seems like the object is floating in your face between the screen and your eyes so I tried a ton of things.
I tried Wondershare, Leaowi 3d convertor, Makeme3d, Xillisoft etc... With no decent 2d-3D convertors, I even went as far as installing the IZ3D Driver on my computer in attempt to get a true 3D output. I even went as far as placing my Evo 3d on a tripod and recording the pc screen music viz...
that ended up with nice 3d effects however quality was bad so was the music and it wasn’t really in your face type unless I moved the phone toward and away from the viz..
with still bad outputs I decided to use Fraps recorder to just record the viz in Avi uncompressed, then tried hand break, free make, etc. all kinds and then doing the 2d to 3d, none of the apps worked well, except for Xillisoft, the key was to raise the depth to 10 highest, then to flip Left and Right, it made a nice in your face result.
Anyway, thought I would share them. I am sure someone out there would dig it.
basically it’s just a song playing and the music viz doing its thing and pretty much nice 3d, only issue I have not figured out is trying to keep the size as small as possible yet higher bite rate and clearer, which most will notice the overall; quality isn’t that great I just wish I could get the right combo to make the quality perfect with the 3d conversion,
here is the links to a few videos I made , if some feedback comes that they are liked, I will be glad to show steps to make it or even make more, enjoy
Oh in case anyone curious, I used milk drop Winamp, RV viz, and old ass Vuzix viz I found online (which was actually the nicest looking of all.). That’s the "one called Dangerous:
Also It would be awesome if anyone has similar videos they can share I have not successfully found any online yet
here is just a few screenshots of the video:
Note: I noticed that they each have a different eye distance spot so if it looks or strains your eyes try moving it closer or further
And here is the first 5 videos I uploaded.
Hope you like Depeche Mode
Download links
Music Viz video in 3D with the song " Light " By Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?4qukuj0cyfilfcp
Music Viz video in 3D with the song " Enjoy the Silence " Dubstep mix By Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?u0akzvgip89eov9
Music Viz video in 3D with the song "Dangerous" By Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?of1pd29abecj47t
Music viz video in 3D with the song "Judas" by Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?v3324o9ey88j6ms
Music viz video in 3D with the song "Waiting for the Night" by Depeche Mode:
http://www.mediafire.com/?71m56u9s68euwnb
Thanx for starting a 3d videos thread with both instructions and sample videos.
YouTube would be useful for a quick preview at least, even if the mp4 offer the highest quality.
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I even went as far as placing my Evo 3d on a tripod and recording the pc screen music viz...
that ended up with nice 3d effects however quality was bad so was the music and it wasn’t really in your face type unless I moved the phone toward and away from the viz..
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Not sure if trolling, or just stupid.....
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Not sure if trolling, or just stupid.....
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With all due respect , Not sure if your wife's ass aint hitting right today or you are just one of those lonely sad mad at the world type people with nothing but negative comments due to your personal dark secrets that you have been completely hiding due to the shock you received at an early age..
But anyway, ya actually to clear it up, filming a music viz with a 3d camera comes out pretty good and in 3d, especially with a stable filming like a tripod
so I don't understand maybe I am just too "stupid" to even understand why your negative comment made any sense as to why I was stupid for doing that.. It's funny how this forum at once was full of friendly and interesting members and lately it's become flooded with one liner morons that like to talk smack without even opening their minds or explaining their reason for being so ignorant..
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the 3d Youtube idea was great I had not realized that their uploads allow a 2d-3d experimental conversion which I am trying out now, thanks for the heads up on that.
Allright, so i downloaded one to check it out, and it just shows me the side by side when I play in my EVO3D. Do I need to convert it or something?
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Allright, so i downloaded one to check it out, and it just shows me the side by side when I play in my EVO3D. Do I need to convert it or something?
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Press menu play3d
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doh. Thanks.
And I don't really see any 3D depth. Were you recording from a 3D monitor?
If you want 3D movies on your Evo3D skip all this nonsense, and check search TPB or Google for Half-SBS movies, or go to http://3dhalf-sbs.blogspot.com/
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If you want 3D movies on your Evo3D skip all this nonsense, and check search TPB or Google for Half-SBS movies, or go to http://3dhalf-sbs.blogspot.com/
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well I know of all those sites .including sikflicks and many others but like I said on first post , all these google half sbs.and.such searches never really lead me to any viz type videos mostly are movies or short films .. So I wouldnt really call it.nonsense ..as a matter of.fact I have.shown these videos to about 3- 4 friends.whom all have an EVO 3d.and.they were all impressed and stated they have.seen.nothing like it in 3d especially the depth . What needs to be done.which would.be really cool is for someone.to create an app like that Winamp viz called MilkDROP. Or even add some 3d support to "project M" THAT WOULD Be awesome
Oh I just also noticed if you are viewing the videos and notice no 3d then you are probably watching the video upside down and and have the auto rotation locked ..just watched it in the wrong way and noticed the depth was reversed when I had auto rotate off ..
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Downloaded and tried the first vid, here is my constructive criticism:
Bitrate is way too low or encoder is way too bad, many scenes with big blocks/squares typical of too low bitrate for high motion videos. VBR may help too (varible bitrate), but a huge increase in bitrate is a must, or lower resolution.
Video has flipped left/right, as described in the text above, I had to rotate the Evo3D slightly to get the correct 3D view.
Problem is that flipping left/right for 3D video with objects deep into the screen, does not give you out of screen effects. The source has to be correct and show out of screen 3d to begin with. The following video shows perfect out of screen 3D, the logo is always within the screen border (reb/blue only, but you will get the point): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4woa-Hodg4
In this case, you need to work with the 3d driver settings and adjust the parameters and it will only work for a few scenes, for example the metaballs that never leave the screen.
Tunnel sequence does not need to be out of screen to be kickass in 3D.
A tip is to hook up your PC or Evo 3D to your 3DTV or 3D projector.
You or your friends will get motion sickness within 1 minute, brilliant
Hi Guys,
I was searching for any way to watch 3D clips/movies on my Neo V lol and unfortunately, I came up with the accessory called YouSee3D (link given below). I was wondering if anybody tried that or any other way to watch 3D movies?
http://www.indiegogo.com/YouSee3D-3D-video-viewer-for-iPhone-and-Android
I know screen should be supported and so the drivers as well, but I was just giving it a try that there might be any way watch 3d movies?
Let me know your thoughts!
117 vies and no reply :crying:
I am sure this works by you sending off $20 and then you see RED when you get nothing back from the scammers who conned you.
Search youtube for 3d videos with YouTube app. You will find some vid but I think u need 3d googles to watch them. Don't know exact. Correct me if I m wrong.
So there ia no way to watch 3d movies on Neo V?
LG Optimus has ability to plqy 3d movies btw. How come neo v cqnt play. Datx bad
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So there ia no way to watch 3d movies on Neo V?
LG Optimus has ability to plqy 3d movies btw. How come neo v cqnt play. Datx bad
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im familiar with 3d technologies
technically its impossible to watch 3d clips in neo/v about lg optimus u mentioned in your posts it has 3d display which is made to play 3d clips
but red/blue googles can do it for u
u have to render the movie in red/blue 3d in computer then convert it to a format which device can play it back
but u cant expect hi quality in it
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im familiar with 3d technologies
technically its impossible to watch 3d clips in neo/v about lg optimus u mentioned in your posts it has 3d display which is made to play 3d clips
but red/blue googles can do it for u
u have to render the movie in red/blue 3d in computer then convert it to a format which device can play it back
but u cant expect hi quality in it
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I have Red/Blue goggles with me .. but are you saying that I can watch 3d clips on Neo V using Red/Blue goggles? If yes, then how should I have to render the movie in red/blue 3d in computer? Thanks for your answer!
Download "3dvplayer" and buy a red cyan glass and enjoy 3d video...it will be Chinese videos anyway we can watch some 3d.
I hqve 3D goggles. Once I went to cinema to watch Titanic in 3D and I got those glasses. Will that work? Please check attached image for my goggles and let me know.
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only red and cyan glass ...want to buy?? then go to ebay and order its cheap ..
What about 3D on YouTube. Check this...
Can we use red-blue googles to grt 3D effect on this ?
There are two types of 3D technologies,
1- In this we use polarized glasses (usually you will see flickers if you watch 2D videos from these)
2- In this we use red-cyan glasses (you will see those shades of 2D videos from these)
The first one is high quality 3D (these glasses are mostly thick), usually 3D tvs and some of the cinemas (Imax for sure) use this.
Also for this type you need a 3D screen to view 3D videos. So obviously these glasses or this types of videos won't work with Neo/NeoV
The second one is a low quality 3D. You won't get the true 3D effect, but ya, a finger or two might come out of the screen
As this technology does not need a 3D screen, you can watch this types of videos on Neo/NeoV. Also you can make this types of 3D glasses at home, just search how to make 3D glasses videos on youtube.
cheers!
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What about 3D on YouTube. Check this...
Can we use red-blue googles to grt 3D effect on this ?
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yup only analyph
real 3D movies the ones u enjoy watching in 3DTVs, tv and googles work together to help your eyes to get seprarte pictures like your own eyes
How?
First of all the movie should be recorded by 3D cameras so in each frame it has 2 picture for each of your eyes
Now we're gonna need 3D screens to play them back
3D screens in market are in 2 types
First type needs active glasses and second type needs passive glasses
In active glass technology each glass of your eyes blinks 60 times per second and tv blinks in the same rate too so each of your eyes can see 60 different frame in a second which causes 3d illusion in your brain
But in passive technology glasses wont blink and they seem like normal glasses we use everyday
In this technology the light screen emitts consist of 2 seprate polarization , one polarization for one picture and one polarization for other picture in the same frame
Now googles can use they're polarizied glasses to seprate the different polarization for your eyes and each eye gets sepreate picture and there it is 3d illusion in your brain
Also there is some other 3D technologies in market
But these two are the most
In lg optimus or evo 3D , screen can send different pictures to your eyes and help u see 3d content
But they are very limited in watching angle
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Conclusion : there is no way to watch this type of 3D in our phone
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