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Are we sure there is no micro SD card slot on the tab 10? Has anyone taken apart the unit? There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version, maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
The fact that the tab 10 was SUPPOSED to come with a micro SD card slot and at the last minute having it left out leads me to GREATLY believe that the actual slot is on the system board just covered up by the plastic shell.
The slot is supposed to be just to the right of the volume buttons.
I cant take my unit apart until I get the stupid 3-prong security bits to unscrew the screws near the usb connector.
Mh interesting, my rotary tool is ready
5thElement said:
There is a micro SD slot on the 3G version,
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I didn't think there was??
There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
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There's a greater chance of finding a tiny leprechaun who changes the orientation of the Tab when it turns, than of finding an documented secret SD slot.
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You obviously have no idea that all samsung pre-production models of the tab 10 (im not talking about the 10v model) had a micro sd card slot. There are plenty of pictures online. The sd card slot is there. Or at least there will be traces on the board. IMO the actual slot is soldered on the board as it was last min choice to have the option removed.
It'd be interesting to know if there is one or not......
I haven't taken mine apart yet, and have no interest in doing it. Never the less, I would also be interested in knowing what we have going on back there. I searched for a teardown by iSuppli or similar, but did not find anything. Too bad.
I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
It's more than possible. Look at WP7 phones.
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I'm aware that some pre-production models had the hardware. You're making a giant leap to suggest that the hardware exists in production models when all evidence points to the contrary.
But by all means, feel free to prove me wrong. I anxiously await your pics.
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What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'm friends with Superman.
5thElement said:
... maybe samsung has left the actual slot on the system board but just covered up the opening on the plastic shell? This happens all the time in manufacturing devices, often Mfrs want to remove a feature and dont want to re-tool or reprogram a Mfr process so they do things like leaving the option in and just covering it up.....Ive seen this happen all the time.
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It seems just as likely, if not more, that the pre production unit had a slot in the case, but no functioning SD hardware behind it. Even if the hardware is there, getting it to work w/o Samsung's support could be difficult. Look how hard it's been for the zoom, while Motorola intended for it to work
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Does anyone have access to an Xray machine that can scan their unit so we can see?
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I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
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maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the advantage to samsung when they actually have a microSD slot onboard 10.1 after the redesign and not to use it? I find their story believable that they had to cut it out due to size(thickness) issues. If they could squeeze in the micro SD they would not hesitate to advertise it as another advantage over the ipad2.
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Advantage would be the ability to market the next product as "New and improved with expandable memory."
My professional opinion in concern to prototyping and designing, its much easier to modify and replace a plastic/aluminum enclosure than modifying a stockpile of motherboards
kragebein said:
I'll have it xrayed on monday. I'll give you the pictures so you can analyze them.
But doubt you'll se anything useful.
(Got xray machines at work)
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Fantastic. Cant wait.
seems we have a winning entry to answer all questions on this topic and put it to rest, no x-ray needed
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15276646&postcount=13
I have taken the liberty of messaging the user for his input on this threads subject and have requested he shed some light on this mind boggling question
I think this line right here is what's confusing people.
"micro-SD card slot for up to 32GB memory through a USB adapter (have to buy separately)"
It's possible to extend it through the USB adapter, but IMO it's much easier to use a service like dropbox or sugarsync. Save a few playlists locally with iSyncr then have the rest of your library on google music. I use sugarsync. I use it all the time. It's a great way to get files onto your device, wireless.
Where's the pictures of the pre production tab having the SD slot? And BTW it's up to the person making a claim against the norm to prove it... not the other way around, that's ridiculous.
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What evidence points to the contrary??? Samsung officially will tell you there is no micro SD card slot but that does not count since its their default answer if it is or isnt inside. The fact that there is no actual cut out in the plastic shell also does not count as that is its default position regardless if the slot hardware is there or not.
Again where is this evidence to the contrary?
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I wonder if anyone's looked in to this? Could be huge - most of us have a dead simcard slot - I wonder if there's a way to hack in an sdcard reader to the hardware?
What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
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What dead MicroSD card slot?
Do you mean the slot that has the serial # info and has nothing to do with ab SD card?
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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He said dead sim card slot, not dead MicroSD card slot. The OP clearly realises the slot has nothing to do with an SD card. Seems you have misunderstood or not bothered to read it properly but nevertheless im sure the pretty much redundant piece of plastic with the serial info is something that I'm sure a lot of TP users would be prepared to sacrifice if they could mod in a card reader.
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Yes, I misunderstood... my apologies.
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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tekowalsky said:
I've wondered if it would be possible to solder in a wire from a +5v somewhere to the USB. (I'm sure someone will quickly point out if this is a "bad" idea...)
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you would probably need to create 5v first. the touchpad I think runs off something like 3v. while I seems like a good idea to hack in a card reader,my feeling is not to.worry until you in out of memory. a better idea might be a device stuck to the back containing a extra battery and a card.reader. It would make the tablet thicker but increase battery life and provide plenty of storageas well as providing the power needed for the reader.
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If you're going to hack anything then hack the USB port to work as a host and read away!
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This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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LateralOctober said:
This would also be awesome. I think it would take a bit more for this though than an sdcard since the sdcard can operate up to 3.7v.
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Sorry I wasn't clear enough, you can do this for real right now!
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Do you have a link?
LateralOctober said:
Do you have a link?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
pa49 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1316174
And there is another fuller in depth post on another forum which I will not post here as the last time I tried to be helpful I was accused of spamming and threatened with a ban so you will have to try a google.
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Oh what the heck
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/3724-functional-usb-host-on-touchpad/
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Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
RojasTKD said:
Well that's not near what the OP was talking about. An SD card that give you build in storage, even on the go, is much more practical than this option.
Still could be useful, but for me it not very practical.
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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Of course it isn't, but it is what I was talking about and the OP asked for the link.
So what's your problem?
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I don't have a problem...
1. I didn't see where he asked about it... my apologies there.
2. Just pointing out the limited usefulness compared to the SD card solution.
I wasn't trying to be a jerk.
Personally I think the best solution would have been if HP would of just included an SD or MicroSD card. It drive me nuts when manufacturers mimic the apple model and give you less option and features as if that will equal success (looking at you Touchpad and GalaxyTab 10.1).
Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Um... Looks like the subject is just about buried in the amount of crap everyone has been piling on so far.
So back to constructive discussion... What are the advantages of having SD card in your mobile device (be it a phone or a tablet)?
I have a 16GB microSD card in my Nexus One, and I have never taken it out. I almost wish all of the flash was just integrated.
With quality of USB and network file transfer protocols I think SD is just about useless.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Very simple, I can put all my photos, videos, documents, downloads, Maps for my GPS apps on my SD card. It leaves more space on my device for apps and if and when I wipe my device I don't lose any of it. I've had time when I was having an issue with a device and had to wipe everything. Having certain files on my SDcard kept me from loosing anything. with my phone I've stored different ROM on my SDcard so I could test them out and switch between various ROM with ease.
I don't take my SDcard out either, the purpose of the SDcard isn't to move files from you computer to you phone but rather as storage.
But, I'll give you $10 for that useless 16GB microSD card.
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Technically a TouchPad without hardware damage is unbrickable, USB is connected to CPU so you could always push a boot image to RAM.
You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
Which brings us to the next question, can we have an application to access our Palm accounts from Android?
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You do bring up a valid issue, but some of the ways you can stop relying on local storage are cloud storage and cloud backups. These Palm accounts that we get with WebOS on the TouchPads do just that.
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But I like local storage. I rather have my music on my SD card. There are some picture I'd also like to have on my device locally. Same with documents and a variety of other thing. I don't have to have everything on there, but there are something I would like to have. Not to mention that being a WiFi device I can't always have access to cloud storage.
There is room for both in my opinion.
OK, I'm done... back to you regularly scheduled thread.
ive been curious about this since i got mine, but i have a 32gb, so its never really been a project in the front of my mind...imma take a look at the whitesheets and teardowns (cuz i dont wanna open mine if SD isnt possible ) and see if there are even pins for data available, but im pretty sure there isnt, which would also explain why devs are working on getting OTG running
I'm seriously thinking about getting DNA on Wednesday and giving my S3 to my Spouse, who's still rocking the Thunderbolt. At first I was a bit dismayed by the 16GB storage option, but I looked at my 16GB S3 and realized that I never used more than 4 GB for Pics and Video, since everything is uploaded to my G+ account anyhow, and my 32GB SD Card is sitting idle. Here's something interesting.....this is available for the S3 and the iPhone....maybe they'll make it for the DNA? http://egoncompany.com/collections/hybrid-series-galaxy-s3
dude this is sick! i hope they do i will buy one asap!!
That is awesome!!!
I have to add....I don't play any games on my phone. I strictly use my phone for checking e-mails, surfing, FB, Google+, Twitter, and Pictures (I don't think I've unpacked my D-SLR at all since I've gotten the S3...it's a capable Point&Shoot), so even 16GB would be enough for me, but it's nice to know that there's possibly an option out there. Even if it isn't....I have a 3rd, 4th, and 5th line all coming up for renewal in March, so if I'm not happy, I'll just play the hand-me-down game and give the DNA to my mom, and get myself whatever the flavor of the day is at that point.
Okay, that is awesome. We need to bug the hell out of them and see what happens. I would certainly think they'd see the value in doing it, as the models the currently list offer higher memory configs out of the box.
Update: I sent them an email politely suggesting that we've got the perfect device for their business model. Lower memory than some and likely popular despite it's configuration.
This is great. I'll definitely pick one up if they make them for the DNA.
guys i dont get why you are all so excited... this is just a case with a sub holder - the memory on the usb itself does not integrate with the phone lol
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guys i dont get why you are all so excited... this is just a case with a sub holder - the memory on the usb itself does not integrate with the phone lol
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Lol that's exactly what I was thinking. Guys it's just a hybrid USB holder.
Appogee said:
Lol that's exactly what I was thinking. Guys it's just a hybrid USB holder.
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Well that is an epic fail on my part :laugh:
What I'm wondering is whether or not this will fit:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...n_DTMCK_16GB_16GB_DataTraveler_Micro_USB.html
Is it an actual microusb drive, or is it just a small usb drive.
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Well that is an epic fail on my part :laugh:
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Aww bummer. Oh well, maybe they'll still make the case... kinda nice lookin'
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What I'm wondering is whether or not this will fit:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...n_DTMCK_16GB_16GB_DataTraveler_Micro_USB.html
Is it an actual microusb drive, or is it just a small usb drive.
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Just a small USB drive.
I am crying over here, LOL...
As soon as I went on to the EGO Online Shop and saw the case, I knew immediately that it was nothing more than a case, storing a Micro USB Thumb Drive.
It does not mention anything about storing photos, music, apps, NOTHING on the Thumb Drive directly off of the phone.
It pretty much doesn't explain anything about what it does or it's use.
So, I can see where some people thought it would expand the on board memory of the DNA or iPhone or whatever phone they make a case for.
BUT, I did get a good kick out of some of the comments after people thought it would be a memory expansion for the phone.
ECO should be more specific and at least explain what the case and USB Drive is for.
On that note, if they were to make a case that would expand the on board memory or just so that we don't have to store all our pics/songs etc
on the phone and onto a USB Drive, that would be awesome.
Good luck to all with the DNA.
Nice phone, but I have had a ton of Androids (Most recently SGS3 from T-Mobile and Verizon), and this is just another one to add to my list. With the exception of the really nice 5" screen and
gorgeous display, it's just another Android Phone.
no it wont fit we use mini usb. i looked for hours for a mini usb the size of that kingston
mikevipsr said:
no it wont fit we use mini usb. i looked for hours for a mini usb the size of that kingston
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we use micro USB, and i don't recall ever seeing one ever.
Well it would be kind of nice because then you could use this to expand it:
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias=aps&field-keywords=SANOXY+Micro+USB+Host
They were talking about this in another thread, and if you combined the two that would be freaking sweet.
So,
Putting my infinite wisdom to use, I've established anecdotal evidence (oxymoron? I tease....) that says something is pooping on my MicroSD cards...and that something is....wait for it, wait for it....Custom ROMs (dun, dun, dunnnnnnn). Ehr Mah Guards!!!
I ran the stock ICS ROM for many, many months without issue, and my SD Card was a champ the whole time (excluding one time I plugged it into my Wintel Box, windows thought it was damaged and decided to move a few files around, leaving me a few hundred presents, in the form of LOST.DIR checkdisk files). However, once the Jellies Beans Leakz came out, it was quickly the consensus that it had become, literally overnight, the Bee's Knees. I hopped on mah 'pooter right 'way, and downloaded that sweet sweet ROM dew. Minutes later, and it was like Mardis Gras...if ya know what I mean. He he.
Fast furward about a month, and my Good Old Champ starting to fail on me. "SD Damaged. Yada yada yada...format me." So I did. I figured it was a one off thing kinda thing, ya know? So I continued on my happy way to flashing heaven...combining endlessly different mods, themes, etc. Since charging has always been slower on AOSP ROMs, I jus' charged me batterease in my external travel charger (which can charge a battery from zero to hero in 30 minutes flat), and when mah juices got down to critical levels, I just plopped may battery out, without shutting down or anything, and popped a new one back in! Ah...the marvels of modern devices, right? I figured I could shut this baby down a hundred different ways, and as along as I wasn't flashing something, I'd be fine!
WRONG!!! A week later, I was minding my own business, watching a Keira Knightley Flix, and I forgot to charge or change me battery. The thing crapped on me, and when i booted back up, KABLAM! YOUR SD CARD IS CORRUPTED!!! FORMAT ME NOWWWWWWW.
Oops! I went back to ICS, had a merry time for some months, and not furgetting about mah SD issue, I bought a new card. A stand up card, from a stand up kinda guy, I think his name was Mamason, and the SD card was made by Sand Tisk.
But im a regular kinda guy. So i spent a buttload of cheddar on it, thinking i suffered a fool for buyin' he cheap stuff before. Well no more! No more o' DAT cheap stuff for me Meow. You coodint pay me to use the cheap, regular, barnyard animal quality micros anymore!
So there I was, happy as a kitty with a catnip lollipop, on mah Galaxy Note, new Sandy Micros and e'rything, enjoyin me stocks. I enjoyed it for a few more months, unhindered....then I got fancy...I needed a fix. Bad.
So I decided to go checking out some new flashables, in the Developmental sections at the local ExDeeAysss. I got ter flashing...enjoyed meself quite a bit, dare I say--for about two weeks; before I got thàt DEEaarrrnnnn "SD damaged!" Message again. Yowserrs! Not again!
I formatted once more, switched to a different Bean ROM, and flashed away! Guess what? A month later: "SD Damaged!”
Emooooooo Raaaagggeeeee! Kaaaaammmaaayyyyyyuuuuuuhhhhh!
I went back to ICS, flashed and flashed some stuff there, and voila!!!! No issues!
Now, I cant tie this to random reboots, to Google's extremely vulgar and disappointing lack of knowledge when it comes to modern file systems, for supporting only FAT32, to code in the AOSP, or to a bug somewhere.....but what i can say, is that abusing my phone in AoSP almost immediately gets you a donkey punch to the Note face, leaving your SD Card's brain concussed, and your memory corrupted, with a complete loss of data. Which is really bad, if you plan on using your NANDROIDs on your external storage to recover from in case something bad happens.
I can also say that this doesn't seem to happen on the stock ROMs, or at least it doesn't happen nearly as often on Samsung ROMs. As someone who uses flash memory on an industrial scale for his side jobs and projects, and abuses it elsewhere, this isn't typical. ID really like to know if anyone else has any experience or knowledge to share here, which might just turn this from anecdotal evidence, to something a tad bit more concrete.
Anyone else care to share/chip in?
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1) Interesting post. You might have a future in writting.
2) Huh?
3) Kinda long winded. Couldn't read it all.
4) Huh???
I'm not going to dis-agree with your analogies regarding the SD card, and it's possibly being damaged by particular roms/builds.
I too, have suffered 2 SD card failures since running custom builds, and in particular, the JB builds.
I've not yet isolated the cause of course, but it seems that some pieces of code are likely messing up the file structure when the card is being written.
However, it is also quite possible, that the rom itself is not the issue, As many applications have the same ability in messing up the card, and it's read/write access.
We may never know what the cause is, unless folks are willing to disect the build down to the base level, an eliminate each and every application that runs to the external SD.
No doubt a long and painful activity.
Also, I've not had any more issues..(4 months) using (cough...not sandisk) other cards, and at least class 8 or higher.
I'm also running an AOSP/JB build. (thank you Flappjaxxx)....
So I really can't say what may cause the issue, but I know it certainly exists, as I can confirm your findings as well.
Perhaps a skilled Dev. or another person, much more skilled than myself will crack the mystery one day. But for now, I suggest a good quality card, in a class 8-10, and if the card gives you trouble, then try another brand.
I know these cards are mass produced, and vary greatly in quality. Good luck in your quest Sir.....g
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I'm not going to dis-agree with your analogies regarding the SD card, and it's possibly being damaged by particular roms/builds.
I too, have suffered 2 SD card failures since running custom builds, and in particular, the JB builds.
I've not yet isolated the cause of course, but it seems that some pieces of code are likely messing up the file structure when the card is being written.
However, it is also quite possible, that the rom itself is not the issue, As many applications have the same ability in messing up the card, and it's read/write access.
We may never know what the cause is, unless folks are willing to disect the build down to the base level, an eliminate each and every application that runs to the external SD.
No doubt a long and painful activity.
Also, I've not had any more issues..(4 months) using (cough...not sandisk) other cards, and at least class 8 or higher.
I'm also running an AOSP/JB build. (thank you Flappjaxxx)....
So I really can't say what may cause the issue, but I know it certainly exists, as I can confirm your findings as well.
Perhaps a skilled Dev. or another person, much more skilled than myself will crack the mystery one day. But for now, I suggest a good quality card, in a class 8-10, and if the card gives you trouble, then try another brand.
I know these cards are mass produced, and vary greatly in quality. Good luck in your quest Sir.....g
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Yes! Exactly my thinking...I can't realistically even make a guesstimate at this point. Is it tied to reboots during disk access? A certain program I'm using? Themes? Etc.
But I can say that it happens exponentially more often with my AOSP runs. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. So I say "it happens more often" to be conservative--it hasn't happened to me on a stock ROM, and I don't remember it even happening on a stock-based ROM. But that doesn't mean it doesn't happen, amirite? Maybe it's the infinitely configurable nature and availability of AOSP customizations, mixed with my infinitely-satisfied-for-just-a-day-or-two behaviors, that's causing this-- primarily due to my tinkering.
Donald Rumsfeld had it right...the things we know we know, the things we know we don't know, the things we don't know we don't know....jeeze.
And equally, the versatility, and the sheer force of diversity, will probably ensure we never nail something down.
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My guess would be the lack of a certain piece of code. Something that protects, or at least improves and stabilizes the write process.
Since we are dealing with the AOSP buids here, we lack the code added by carriers prior to device shipment, and certainly the testing of those builds.
AOSP is simply raw android, and ported to our devices by a number of means. One can only surmise, that a potential flaw may exist in the transfer proccess. (Maybe)
We may never know the cause, but it certainly is worth looking into further, given the costs associated with SD cards in general, and the amount of important data that they can store.
I know it's painful, to rely on a simple card that stores photos of families etc....Being lost and impossible to recover.
We have become dependent on our devices for support. And when a failure occurs, I suggest a backup plan, by leaving nothing on a simple card, we are not willing to be without.
Backups, and storage to other areas is really quite mandatory.....g
I fried one of mine recently by using Dark Side Super Wipe. Nobody believed me lol.
But I'm good with just the internal memory.
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I fried one of mine recently by using Dark Side Super Wipe. Nobody believed me lol.
But I'm good with just the internal memory.
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As mentioned above.....what we know, we dont know.....LOL
It is "WITHOUT QUESTION"...possible for a script to reach the SD card, and kill it.
Not that it's a common occurence, but without a doubt it can happen.
I wish my skill set regarding the file structure of android was a bit better, so I could look deeper into these issues.
But my old brain gets too hurting over this stuff...LOL.....g
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My guess would be the lack of a certain piece of code. Something that protects, or at least improves and stabilizes the write process.
Since we are dealing with the AOSP buids here, we lack the code added by carriers prior to device shipment, and certainly the testing of those builds.
AOSP is simply raw android, and ported to our devices by a number of means. One can only surmise, that a potential flaw may exist in the transfer proccess. (Maybe)
We may never know the cause, but it certainly is worth looking into further, given the costs associated with SD cards in general, and the amount of important data that they can store.
I know it's painful, to rely on a simple card that stores photos of families etc....Being lost and impossible to recover.
We have become dependent on our devices for support. And when a failure occurs, I suggest a backup plan, by leaving nothing on a simple card, we are not willing to be without.
Backups, and storage to other areas is really quite mandatory.....g
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Titanium Media Sync would be a worthy solution, were it able to write over Samba. I could just mirror everything over to my NAS. For now, drop box will have to do. With a paltry 6Mbps up, it could take days to reach the initial parity.
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Jamesyboy said:
Titanium Media Sync would be a worthy solution, were it able to write over Samba. I could just mirror everything over to my NAS. For now, drop box will have to do. With a paltry 6Mbps up, it could take days to reach the initial parity.
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Days indeed ....
I suggest a good book while the upload occurs ..LOL ...g
HTC is close to launching the successor flagship model to the HTC One. HTC has not revealed the launch date. Nokia has adduced evidence which suggests that the launch date is in the first quarter of 2014 and possibly as early as February 2014. HTC has not contradicted this.
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Very interesting... Coincides with my sprint contract expiration quite nicely.
SD card or bust
I'm really hoping they come to their senses with that. (no pun intended) The one was the first upgrade I've skipped thanks to lack of a sd card, and while the evo lte is still a solid device I'm sure not going to wait another year for a new evo.
xHausx said:
SD card or bust
I'm really hoping they come to their senses with that. (no pun intended) The one was the first upgrade I've skipped thanks to lack of a sd card, and while the evo lte is still a solid device I'm sure not going to wait another year for a new evo.
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Would be a step back, since the Max has a sd slot..
xHausx said:
SD card or bust
I'm really hoping they come to their senses with that. (no pun intended) The one was the first upgrade I've skipped thanks to lack of a sd card, and while the evo lte is still a solid device I'm sure not going to wait another year for a new evo.
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Ditto there.... Debated it many times here and just couldn't do it
Now will get the next HTC With the 805 SoC in it.... Long as it doesn't wait till after mid year...
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So Google now just put this in my news feed and I'll place it right here.
http://phandroid.com/2013/12/12/htc-m8-concept-render-video/
*edit though the battery sounds crazy, if it's close to this I'm down.
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So Google now just put this in my news feed and I'll place it right here.
http://phandroid.com/2013/12/12/htc-m8-concept-render-video/
*edit though the battery sounds crazy, if it's close to this I'm down.
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Looks nice. Some of the specs sound similar to what I've seen on some other sites. I'd be down for it:thumbup:
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This looks like a very promising upgrade for me. But I really am not a fan of phones without SD cards these days...
SD cards are old hat. Don't need them. they are slower and have more issues then on board storage. Just make the new devices with 32gigs minimum of on board storage and all is well.
Nothing more irritating then SDcard 0 and SDcard 1. How many times has this driven good Dev's batty? Ask the sense 5 rom porters.
Not too mention the only reason the EVO LTE doesn't already have a multirom port is because the sd card issue. Years ago I would have told you I needed an SD card slot. Truth is I buy an sd card and throw it in and forget about it. Hvent removed it since the EVO lTE was new and it might have well just been on board storage. I have a Nexus 7 and love the fact that it doesn't have an SD card confusing everything. Love not having to remember which drive the rom is on when flashing in recovery. "now lets see...did that download go to sd card0 "downloads" folder or sd card 1 "downloads" folder?" Yeah enough of that trash!
SD cards are for OG nerds, you fill up a 32 gig phone and I say go buy a real video camera there Spielberg.
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Truth is I buy an sd card and throw it in and forget about it. Hvent removed it since the EVO lTE was new and it might have well just been on board storage.
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That's just it, you put it in and forget it. And in the process, you buy 64GB of storage for $40, instead of $300 (or, not at any price, for most phones). I use pretty much all of my storage on videos and other stuff. That doesn't need to be fast.
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So Google now just put this in my news feed and I'll place it right here.
http://phandroid.com/2013/12/12/htc-m8-concept-render-video/
*edit though the battery sounds crazy, if it's close to this I'm down.
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Hahaha, that's not a spec list, it's a wish list. Lol. It may as well have said 32gb ram and 40,000mah battery .
Still, I'd love to see them keep it looking pretty damn close to the One. One is the sexiest phone I've ever seen, but I had to skip it due to no upgrade, so anything else made won't look as goof, unless nearly identical.
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SD cards are old hat. Don't need them. they are slower and have more issues then on board storage. Just make the new devices with 32gigs minimum of on board storage and all is well.
Nothing more irritating then SDcard 0 and SDcard 1. How many times has this driven good Dev's batty? Ask the sense 5 rom porters.
Not too mention the only reason the EVO LTE doesn't already have a multirom port is because the sd card issue. Years ago I would have told you I needed an SD card slot. Truth is I buy an sd card and throw it in and forget about it. Hvent removed it since the EVO lTE was new and it might have well just been on board storage. I have a Nexus 7 and love the fact that it doesn't have an SD card confusing everything. Love not having to remember which drive the rom is on when flashing in recovery. "now lets see...did that download go to sd card0 "downloads" folder or sd card 1 "downloads" folder?" Yeah enough of that trash!
SD cards are for OG nerds, you fill up a 32 gig phone and I say go buy a real video camera there Spielberg.
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I could fill up a 64 gig card with music alone. I don't find it confusing because I don't use the onboard drive for anything.
barleysoda said:
SD cards are old hat. Don't need them. they are slower and have more issues then on board storage. Just make the new devices with 32gigs minimum of on board storage and all is well.
Nothing more irritating then SDcard 0 and SDcard 1. How many times has this driven good Dev's batty? Ask the sense 5 rom porters.
Not too mention the only reason the EVO LTE doesn't already have a multirom port is because the sd card issue. Years ago I would have told you I needed an SD card slot. Truth is I buy an sd card and throw it in and forget about it. Hvent removed it since the EVO lTE was new and it might have well just been on board storage. I have a Nexus 7 and love the fact that it doesn't have an SD card confusing everything. Love not having to remember which drive the rom is on when flashing in recovery. "now lets see...did that download go to sd card0 "downloads" folder or sd card 1 "downloads" folder?" Yeah enough of that trash!
SD cards are for OG nerds, you fill up a 32 gig phone and I say go buy a real video camera there Spielberg.
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Some people like to have most of their music with them (me included), and NOT stream from a cloud with ok reception and eat up battery life. Maybe a 128 gb phone would be acceptable, 16 and 32 are not enough, and haven't been for yrs. Better graphical games are bigger nowadays as well. And I have tons of games, and all emulators on mine. Seriously, stop bashing on people who like options. U want to be ruled by Nazis, than get an iPhone! Sorry, but that's my 2 cents
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