Hi all
2 questions:
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Does anyone know how to change the output resolution for the HDMI port on Folio...???
Seems kinda foolish to be running the 1024x600 on a 1080p or 720p cabable output??
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Is there any work on dual screen for Android until Gingerbread???
Thanks..
MrMEEE said:
Hi all
2 questions:
1:
Does anyone know how to change the output resolution for the HDMI port on Folio...???
Seems kinda foolish to be running the 1024x600 on a 1080p or 720p cabable output??
2:
Is there any work on dual screen for Android until Gingerbread???
Thanks..
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I've seen the LG Optimus 2x which has the same Tegra 2 chip and that device could (according to the videos) switch output between a few different resolutions amongst them 720p and 1080p... So I think it's possible hardware wise at least.
Update: If you look at this clip from CES (I think), you will see that the LG Optimus 2x has an application which can set the output resolution. Perhaps this application is usable on the Folio as well.
It's a bit odd for a device to push 1024x600 resolution out of its HDMI...
So I have a Panasonic GH2 that I use to shoot short films and music videos, and have been looking into getting an external monitor for it to see more details in the while I'm shooting, but since the Prime has an mini HDMI port, is it possible that I can just use that? The GH2 has an hdmi output (micro I think) and there has been some developers hacking it so external monitors can be used. Since I have under 8 posts, I can't post a link to it just yet.
Also, I know it wasn't possible with the first Transformer, but since the Prime has a quad core processor and has proven it can handle HD video with some demo's we've seen, would it be able to handle and playback raw footage from the camera straight from an SD card? The GH2 produces is AVCHD 1080p, it shows up on computers as .MTS files If that helps.
If all this worked, this would make the Prime even more of a bargain. Being able to view footage on a 10 inch screen and then even show it to actors and crew right after would add a ton of convenience.
MinusTheOh said:
So I have a Panasonic GH2 that I use to shoot short films and music videos, and have been looking into getting an external monitor for it to see more details in the while I'm shooting, but since the Prime has an mini HDMI port, is it possible that I can just use that? The GH2 has an hdmi output (micro I think) and there has been some developers hacking it so external monitors can be used. Since I have under 8 posts, I can't post a link to it just yet.
Also, I know it wasn't possible with the first Transformer, but since the Prime has a quad core processor and has proven it can handle HD video with some demo's we've seen, would it be able to handle and playback raw footage from the camera straight from an SD card? The GH2 produces is AVCHD 1080p, it shows up on computers as .MTS files If that helps.
If all this worked, this would make the Prime even more of a bargain. Being able to view footage on a 10 inch screen and then even show it to actors and crew right after would add a ton of convenience.
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I don't think it's a matter of the CPU being able to handle the load, but rather, whether or not the system is built to accept incoming video signal, which I'm pretty sure it can't.
I see, and there would be no way possible a modification or hack such as Cyanogenmod would allow it to accept incoming video signal? Or even have an app designed to do that function?
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I see, and there would be no way possible a modification or hack such as Cyanogenmod would allow it to accept incoming video signal? Or even have an app designed to do that function?
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There was an app a few months ago, that was made for the iOS that let you extend to an iPad/phone and was mentioned to be ported to Android as well. But I can't remember the name.
However you could only interface via a computer, essentially reverse-remote desktop. I'll do some digging when I get back from class.
Sorry if I am not answering your question directly (at least not for your specific video camera), but you reminded me of an alternative that I will definitely explore if/when I have my own Android device i.e. DSLR Controller:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnxvFYza6Y4
In this case, the software takes advantage of Canon DSLR cameras and a USB connection to 'view' (and control) the camera remotely.
This guy used a Toshiba Thrive tablet (rather than an Android phone) to test and comment on it:
http://androidandme.com/2011/08/applications/dslr-controller-brings-live-view-canon-shooting-via-usb/
Now THAT is kinda neat.
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I have not sold my old Galaxy Tab 7 yet and I already have my shiny, new and rooted Tablet S.
I keep my movies on my networked media tank on my LAN and I stream movies to my tablets over the network within the house.
I managed to load the cifs.ko module and mount the network media player on both units. I use BS Player Lite on both units (although I have also tried mobo player and mx player on the Tablet S).
So here is my question: The Galaxy Tab is able to play even 1080p mkv's without breaking sweat, basically anything I can throw at it, whereas the Tablet S struggles with some of the 720p mkv's and cannot even start the 1080p ones without freezing. Is this normal behaviour? Is it because the screen has a greater resolution and the Tablet S has to work so much harder than the 1024x600 Galaxy Tab?
The Tegra 2 CPU used in the Tablet S struggles with HD content encoded using H.264 and the High profile. It's a known limitation.
For videos you encode yourself using H.264/x264, you should use the Main profile.
For downloaded HD content that is already encoded using the high profile we're all out of luck
I usually use MX Player Pro on my tablet, but I've tried Dice Player and it is somewhat better at playing high profile stuff, so you may want to give that a try.
Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
sedohunta said:
Thank you! I did not know this. So actually the hardware in this dualcore tablet is weaker than the 2-year-old Galaxy Tab? Or is this only a driver issue?
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When it comes to HD video playback the Exynos 3110 CPU used in the Galaxy Tab has the upper hand, yes. I was a bit surprised to find out that the Tegra 2 wasn't better at video decoding myself. And no, AFAIK it's not just a driver issue, so it can't be fixed through software/firmware.
Heh. Thanks again! This is a real eye-opener. To tell you the truth it never occured to me to check whether a newer chipset / tablet would actually have lower performance than the previous generation. One would think they upped the resolution of these tablets to 1280x800 to meet 720p HD requirements....
I'm using Dice Player, it has HW acceleration.
I was mildly disappointed with the Sony's high-res Video playback capabilities after I also upgraded from my venerable GT-P1000 Galaxy Tab. Now I use MX Video Player and it seems to do alright, but the Sony's hardware accelerated mode as mentioned above is very finicky about its x264 video.
Also, even if an app claims to be hardware accelerated, chances are extremely good it's probably not. Built-in Hardware Acceleration won't go live until ICS and when video players use the "Hardware Decoding" option (note that its not the same), they just use the Sony's built-in chip and all the video players will deal with it pretty much the same.
real
I use Real Player and Mobo Player and have rarely any problems.
A help if you are having issues is to shut down all of the unneeded apps, clear out your ram and shut off the data connection.
Hi there,
I'm looking for the cheapest Android phone with HDMI output I can. It seems to be the Neo, but I hear bad things about the output only being at about 480p and looking poor when upscaled on TV.
Is it possible to increase this with a custom ROM?
If not, can anyone recommend a similarly cheap phone that outputs at 720p?
Hoping to use phone for UPnP with my TV.
Hi there,
It seems to be the Neo, but I hear bad things about the output only being at about 480p and looking poor when upscaled on TV.
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The output is in 720p (1280x720), not 480p.
Is it possible to increase this with a custom ROM?
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HDMI works only on stock ROMs, as Sony didn't release the HDMI source code for devs
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09iiaakp said:
The output is in 720p (1280x720), not 480p.
HDMI works only on stock ROMs, as Sony didn't release the HDMI source code for devs
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1476689&page=2
Did a bit more digging apparently it's upscaled from 854x480...
Hey buddy, you can get an Xperia P
It's a medium-range phone like Neo, has Dual Core processor and HDMI output
It's not the cheapest thing out there, but it's not as expensive as a SGS3 or a Xperia S and has some decent hardware.
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hi guys,
I need a media player and rather than get a wdtv live, i'm thinking of purchasing an android stick as it has the bonus of apps etc.
I've seen loads of different sticks, such as MK808, MK809, MK809ii, MK809iii, MK908.
To be perfectly honest, I'm confused as to which is the BEST stick in terms of hardware/stability/software.
I want to be able to watch hd movies, play games and connect external storage. such as usb stick or hdd.
Which make/model is the latest so far? What can you recommend?
cx-919 IMO
thank you for your prompt reply insomnia. I do apologise, but i've never heard of it as the one's i've heard of are the "MK" models. What's so special about this one and how is it different from the rest? Is it more faster than the MK models? What about Raspberry PI?
wowandroid said:
thank you for your prompt reply insomnia. I do apologise, but i've never heard of it as the one's i've heard of are the "MK" models. What's so special about this one and how is it different from the rest? Is it more faster than the MK models? What about Raspberry PI?
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cx918 and mk908 are from the new generation of pen-TV based on RK3188 chip, all the others you cited in yur original message are based on RK3066 chip.
RK3188 is a 1.6-1.8ghz quad core chip, RK3066 is a 1.2-1.5ghz dual core chip, thus the first is a lot faster.
cx918 has a slightly better wifi than mk908.
Rasperry PI is A LOT less powerfull than both but its also a lot better optimized so it actually outperform both sometimes.
Thank you very much NixZero.
I think the first thing I need to do is decide if I want an Android Mini PC or Raspberry Pi or a dedicated Media Player.
My main concern is Movies - I'm looking for a device which can play almost anything you throw at it and can play HD resolutions smoothly. My understanding here is that a dedicated media player such as the WDTV live would be the best choice. But as you can understand, I want more and therefore the option for installing games/apps would be an added bonus.
So next I need to decide between a Raspberry Pi or an Android Mini PC...assuming it's been optimised, which one is the best?
wowandroid said:
Thank you very much NixZero.
I think the first thing I need to do is decide if I want an Android Mini PC or Raspberry Pi or a dedicated Media Player.
My main concern is Movies - I'm looking for a device which can play almost anything you throw at it and can play HD resolutions smoothly. My understanding here is that a dedicated media player such as the WDTV live would be the best choice. But as you can understand, I want more and therefore the option for installing games/apps would be an added bonus.
So next I need to decide between a Raspberry Pi or an Android Mini PC...assuming it's been optimised, which one is the best?
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for movie playing, PI - rk3066 based ones struggles with 1080p content and rk3188 ones firmware still are pretty green while Pi's excellent hardware acceleration implementation plays even 1080p high rate content without any problem.
for some games/apps PI is a bit underpowered while RK3188 is a pretty powerfull chip, better than tegra 3 or samsung exynos 4412 (not at snapdragon 4 or cortex A15 level tho).
Pi has a perfect linux implementation while RK ones are still at an early stage.
not easy to chose, each has its strong and low points.
at least they are cheap.
NixZero said:
for movie playing, PI - rk3066 based ones struggles with 1080p content and rk3188 ones firmware still are pretty green while Pi's excellent hardware acceleration implementation plays even 1080p high rate content without any problem.
for some games/apps PI is a bit underpowered while RK3188 is a pretty powerfull chip, better than tegra 3 or samsung exynos 4412 (not at snapdragon 4 or cortex A15 level tho).
Pi has a perfect linux implementation while RK ones are still at an early stage.
not easy to chose, each has its strong and low points.
at least they are cheap.
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Well in that case it leaves me with a dilemma. Just to clarify, I would be more than happy to stick with 720p movies as it's mainly for kids (whom can't tell the difference between 720p or 1080p, lol!), if the R3188 can handle them smoothly...what would you say? If it definately can handle them smoothly, then what about compatibility of file formats?
File formats should all work. Even at 1080p. If not there is always the play store and MX player has run everything I've thrown at it on my $20 MK802
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plznote said:
File formats should all work. Even at 1080p. If not there is always the play store and MX player has run everything I've thrown at it on my $20 MK802
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Thanks plznote. You said your MK802 has ran everything you've thrown at it, which is great, but what about smoothness of movie playback in 720p???
Also note the Pi won't play netflix movies, at all
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Also note the Pi won't play netflix movies, at all
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I don't watch netflix movies...it's mainly mkv, mp4 and youtube videos.
So what is 720p movie playback like on the android stick(s)? Is it smooth? Any minor issues?
Hi wowandroid,
If you are only interested in video playback, we have a clear winner! Check out devices with Allwinner A31 + powervr sgx544mp2 like this one:
http://www.ebay.es/itm/yatow-U4K-An...0?pt=Netzanschluss&hash=item56573ed2be&_uhb=1
It is only 1GHz, but the GPU plays 4k video with 120Mbps bitrate and 3D blueray output.
Have a look at this pages too, specially the first:
http://www.arctablet.com/blog/featu...-tablet-quadcore-arm-cortex-a7-allwinner-a31/
http://withimagination.imgtec.com/index.php/powervr/allwinner-a31-soc-with-powervr-graphics
If you play from a usb disk it should work like a real charm, but I don't know about the wifi speed, it doesn't have an external antenna. I'm sure playing that 4k file through wifi won't be so smooth.
If you can get a device with this chipset and a gigabit wired connection, go for it.
To be honest, I've never heard of the sticks you've mentioned.
wowandroid said:
To be honest, I've never heard of the sticks you've mentioned.
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If your main concern is video, I think this is hands down the best device.
It is a quite new chip, so maybe that's why you haven't heard about it.
Here is another review of a tablet with this chip:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2299688
All reviews agree that video performance is amazing. But I'm not sure if XBMC fully supports it yet.
It seems that it is all GPLed
http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner/a31/orders/
Thanks very much. I'm not sure if we can get this in the uk. How much are the sticks? Also how much are the tablets?
i've had no problems so far with cx-919
Thanks theregkid,
can you recommend where i can buy one from?(link?) Also will i be able to attach an external hdd?
For what I've read, there's little difference in the sticks with the same processor. At the moment, the RK 3188 chip seems to be the new standard. There are a few sticks that have it. I've just bought the Imito QX 1: the reason was the simple fact that the former models of Imito were nice, it had good reviews and because it has a metal plate (and no plastic) on the back, which is sort of the heatsink. On top of that, you can attach a normal passive heatsink, which seems to be enough to cool the processor... It then can run the 1080p kernel. Not many sticks have 1080p kernels...Finless (known for the finless roms), did a review on the build quality and he was pleasantly surprised! Mainly because of the heatsink option and of the fact that there can be an external antenna attached to it.
I've read, that for now, there is no hardware acceleration possible for the RK 3188 chip, but maybe in time... And are there ways to play 1080p movies, without HW acceleration? For now I've still got my RBPI...
A review on the qx1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSgP78HpcQ
Just google on 'Imito QX1 Review' and you'll see some offers right away...
Shoarma1998 said:
For what I've read, there's little difference in the sticks with the same processor. At the moment, the RK 3188 chip seems to be the new standard. There are a few sticks that have it. I've just bought the Imito QX 1: the reason was the simple fact that the former models of Imito were nice, it had good reviews and because it has a metal plate (and no plastic) on the back, which is sort of the heatsink. On top of that, you can attach a normal passive heatsink, which seems to be enough to cool the processor... It then can run the 1080p kernel. Not many sticks have 1080p kernels...Finless (known for the finless roms), did a review on the build quality and he was pleasantly surprised! Mainly because of the heatsink option and of the fact that there can be an external antenna attached to it.
I've read, that for now, there is no hardware acceleration possible for the RK 3188 chip, but maybe in time... And are there ways to play 1080p movies, without HW acceleration? For now I've still got my RBPI...
A review on the qx1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjSgP78HpcQ
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Thank you very much for that breakdown. I'm very happy to buy this, but:-
1. Can the Imito QX1 attach an external hdd?
2. Is it well supported and able to have xbmc?
3. Where can i buy it from in the uk? (Cheapest link please!)
wowandroid said:
Thank you very much for that breakdown. I'm very happy to buy this, but:-
1. Can the Imito QX1 attach an external hdd?
2. Is it well supported and able to have xbmc?
3. Where can i buy it from in the uk? (Cheapest link please!)
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I can't posts links here, but see my former remark for offers... there is an usb 2.0 connection on it... just google on specs and you'll find out yourself. But yes, every stick has the ability to attach an external hdd and even more, you can connect it to your NAS.
Don't let things like weak wifi reception on other models fool you. You can order a usb to rc45 cable for 4 euro's.
XBMC is possible, but as mentioned before, it has been optimized for machines like the rbpi. All rk 3188 sticks suffer from the fact that HW accelleration is not YET supported...
The only downside from this stick, for what I've seen now that it is a pain to hook up to your stereo, since there is no audio out connection on the device... Few sticks have it, but the android media boxes have more connections. So you won't have to buy a seperate powered usb hub.
Please be aware that a 2 amp converter is desired, when running this device.
Last thing... the Imito stick has a separate bluetooth and wifi chip. for what I know, this is kind of unique, because most devices have a 'two-in-one' chip. But not sure on this one. Anyone?