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had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy keyboard. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the tab bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
Update#2: Just found out you can't send SMS messages while you're on the phone. The Evo did it all the time. not MSM messages but plain old text messages........on top of that I called sprint to see about sending me a HTC Evo 3D but they told me I'd have to wait till my 30 days are up(Oct 16) before they can send me a phone out BECAUSE I'm in Alaska(Army) now and of course sprint don't have a walk in store here so I can't send the phone back in to the sprint store I got it from in GA, I'd be without a phone for like 3 weeks. So Sprint high above said they would send me a 3D after my 30 days are up.......Guess it gives me more time to think about all this. I do like the design and the Extra that it's a world phone but meh I guess I want need it unless this phone works over in Afghanistan. hmmmm.
update#3 Scratch the Evo 3D.........because I'm getting the Iphone 4gs. my 30 days will be up oct 16 then sprint will send me a replacement of my choice. $199 iphone 4gs I can't wait!!!. The Photon is great but I just prefer something else with a bit more life too it. Thanks guys.
This might be right, I believe the issue comes at a point where the settings
within the WiFiTeather app for Transmit Power is at %100.
You might want to try to reduce the Transmit power and see if that helps it.
About the issue with car charging, I don't believe your alone on this,
However seeing as though this post lacks detail information regarding Current Running apps,
Services being active like 4g/wifi/BT/GPS and the power/amp going to the phone from the charger,
it might be hard to give you a definitive answer.
I also have had this issue and I can't say that it's only the photon.
All in all good luck and maybe someone here that is more advanced in power consumption will be able to shine light on this.
You won't find a phone that doesn't get really hot when tethering for a good period of time. You cant blame the phone when an accessory that isn't made for it doesn't work with it.. There are many alternative keyboards available if the stock doesn't suit you. Have fun with your 3d.
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This might be right, I believe the issue comes at a point where the settings
within the WiFiTeather app for Transmit Power is at %100.
You might want to try to reduce the Transmit power and see if that helps it.
About the issue with car charging, I don't believe your alone on this,
However seeing as though this post lacks detail information regarding Current Running apps,
Services being active like 4g/wifi/BT/GPS and the power/amp going to the phone from the charger,
it might be hard to give you a definitive answer.
I also have had this issue and I can't say that it's only the photon.
All in all good luck and maybe someone here that is more advanced in power consumption will be able to shine light on this.
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The phone is plugged up when I run wifi tether. yeah I figured it was the power option under wifi tether settings but didnt want to change anything that would stop wifi tether from working......in the car I have pandora radio playing while charging=no charge. I'm always connected to 3g. pandora/web browser and wifi tether is like the only apps I use all day...
Get the gingerbread keyboard....the stock one isn't that great. And try a different car charger, I have a generic off brand one and I've never had an issue with it working.....
A co-worker had a blackberry microusb charger at work, now A: good news is my photon battery last very very long I can get through my nine hour work day with moderate use and still have < 10%. B: The blackberry charger although plugged in and a gave charging animation, never seem to actually raise the % of power. It may have slowed it but not by a whole lot.
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had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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Like xTMFxOffshore said, you can always use gingerbread keyboard or many others. Remember, this is Android not the iPhone, you can use a different keyboard, and a different launcher... Just switch to a new keyboard, (I prefer Smart Keyboard Pro, or A.I.Type Keyboard), and you might enjoy your phone again. If you don't like Motorola's launcher try the ever-so-customizable Go Launcher / Go Launcher Ex, or Launcher Pro, or just look in the Market for more launchers. If you don't Motorola's Dialer, look in the Market for a dialer such as Rocket Dialer, or Go Contacts/Go Contacts Ex. Same applies for Browser (I like Dolphin HD Browser personally), SMS application (I like GoSMS personally), Camera application (I like the stock Camera app personally), and much more. Look in the Market. Themes for Launchers, some SMS apps, some Dialers, (both such as GoSMS/GoContacts), set the tone for the application, and make it more enjoyable.
I had the same experience with the charger, except it was a home charger. Try buying on Amazon.com, Motorola Vehicle Power Adapter micro-USB Charger and have a new car charger that works.
As for wifi tethering, lilrepo and Acvice already addressed that above. Try the Wifi Tether 3.1, beta6 app, found on the website.
Now if you follow our tips, you can fall in love with the Photon all over again.
As for the random restarts, you may have a loose battery, call Motorola and explain that to them, and for motivation tell them about the charger, (you may have to say it won't charge), and remind them that you are covered by a 1 year warranty for all parts and accessories. They will ask for your serial number/IMEI found in the About section of your phone, and send one to your home address. If you get a new battery, break it in by first draining it until your phone shuts off, charging it to 100% while off, repeat those steps again, and it will be "broken in."
Another possibility for the random restarts, is overheat protection. Your Photon will turn off / restart to prevent overheat, or when the processor gets overloaded. Try not to charge your phone while using the tether app, as that makes it hotter.
One more tip: to keep and maintain a healthy battery on all phones, Once A Month: Drain your battery until the phone shuts off, then charge it to 100% while off.
Also remember, this phone is the best in signal and call clarity.
Remember to update your PRL once a month, to get better service.
Good luck, I hope I helped! Looking forward towards your reply.
PS- You may have a faulty phone, the first couple batches of Photons were kinda iffy. Go to your point of purchase or call/email them, and you may get a free replacement. If all else fails, contact Motorola.
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The only BIG issue I had was the silent calls but hey now thats fixed other than that hmmm.... its not .2 inches bigger and it doesn't have a Samoled+ screen oh and seriously I miss the notification toggles other than that the phone has been great.
Does seem however your phone is faulty out of the many people here only a few have real issues with the phone
noob_2010 said:
had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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Came from a BB 9650. I had an XPERT and hated it.
Got the Photon and had the same issues you have.
After the updates it was much better but still getting hot. I finally exchanged it and now running the same apps no more heat issues.
I had a problem with entering TXT or dialing and that was an app crashing the phone. Not sure what app but I went back to bare minimum including a fair number of apps and an exchange email client and no more issues.
I think you need to exchange the phone before you make a final decision.
My last 4 phones (Tilt, Fuze, Evo and Mopho) all get hot tethering, you are, more or less, draining the battery at a high rate of speed!. 2nd, there are a MILLION different options for another keybord, use one of the suggestions here or search until you find one YOU like. As far as restarts, one, you rooted it, two, its possible you have a broken phone?
Lastly (and trust me, I learned the HARD way!) Not all chargers are alike!! A friend of mine quit and left his BB charger and I figured I would use it for Evo. I could use that thing till the cows came home before I got maybe 30 or 40%? Even though the spec's looked the same, my chargers worked. Ended up using BB charger for bluetooth.
i would have to agree with everyone as well, my OG droid would get so hot i could barely even touch it, after about 15 minutes of WIFI tethering the battery would hit the 60c range and shortly turn off, even look at dedicated WIFI hotspots that are designed to be used constantly they get just as hot ( i had a mifi from Verizon, and i have a sprint 4g hotspot for work both get very hot)my mifi would slow to a crawwwwwl after about 6 hours of use till it cooled down. this is going to happen anytime you stick something like wifi in such a small form factor feel your wifi router at home its hot too and it at least has some notches for passive cooling. the fact of the matter is that all phones were not designed to do this long term. enjoy your 3d as its going to be the same deal for you.
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@noob2010, please check my revised post on page 1 of this thread.
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@noob2010, please check my revised post on page 1 of this thread.
Thanks,
Deedscreen!
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Love the MoPho signature, that's bang'n! Also, I'm getting this kit on Thursday. I'm excited. I hear the radio is exceptional and being blanketed in 4G like I am, it would be nice to pull a consistent 12Mbps. I can pull 8Mbps consistently with the OG Epic 4G so, hopefully this is even better!
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Love the MoPho signature, that's bang'n! Also, I'm getting this kit on Thursday. I'm excited. I hear the radio is exceptional and being blanketed in 4G like I am, it would be nice to pull a consistent 12Mbps. I can pull 8Mbps consistently with the OG Epic 4G so, hopefully this is even better!
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Thanks, it's custom made by myself... If you want something like this, PM me and I can work on something of your design... (when I get home.)
As for the 4G, Sprint is working hard with LightSquared on new 4G LTE, this may work with our phones, many users say no, but I've spoken to Motorola & Sprint Reps, and they have all said yes.
The radios are great! Call quality is superb! Motorola is best with these radio chips. We are packing a Tegra 2 dual core processor.
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i would have to agree with everyone as well, my OG droid would get so hot i could barely even touch it, after about 15 minutes of WIFI tethering the battery would hit the 60c range and shortly turn off, even look at dedicated WIFI hotspots that are designed to be used constantly they get just as hot ( i had a mifi from Verizon, and i have a sprint 4g hotspot for work both get very hot)my mifi would slow to a crawwwwwl after about 6 hours of use till it cooled down. this is going to happen anytime you stick something like wifi in such a small form factor feel your wifi router at home its hot too and it at least has some notches for passive cooling. the fact of the matter is that all phones were not designed to do this long term. enjoy your 3d as its going to be the same deal for you.
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My wife and I have the overdrive and even that thing gets smoking hot
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My EVO 4G would get very hot after tethering for some time, it's gonna happen no matter what phone you get since (as said before) you're draining the battery at a high rate.
There are tons of keyboards on the Android Market, you just need to find the one you like best. I personally use Thumb Keyboard.
My HTC Evo used to cook my eggs when I would tether. It's just one of those things that come along with tethering. This phone does has it's flaws but crappy, I think not.
noob_2010 said:
had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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Don't do it man I came from the evo3d to the photon. The evo3d gets hot just from internet browsing and phone calls alone and don't get me started on how it gets when you use GPS the only things that the evo3d has on the photon is sense 3.0 and more custom roms and kernels photon has better signal, call quality, wayyyyy louder speaker, stock battery life and camera. This is android. remember you can change damn near anything on ur phone that you don't like
If you take the time to look for it.
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I heard horrible reviews about heat issues with the 3D. So that just confirms it more.
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noob_2010 said:
had this phone for like 17 days now.
Rooted it. Use the wifi teather app alot but thing is it ALWAYS get hot, hot enough to cook eggs. Either that or it just randomly restarts. OR wifi teather lose connection so I have to restart it which is a sign that the phone will restart in a few more minutes....let's see what else, I have a car charger that went for a ATT phone but it works on the Photon thing is it doesn't even charge the phone. Here I am %5 battery left when getting off work so I hop into my car plug the phone up so it appears charging right? but soon as I get home and disconnect the phone it turns off with%0 whatttttt!! and one more thing that crappy key board. I hate how they have the "." symbol beside the space bar, it's too freaking small.
I thought I was getting the good deal here when I gave my wife the Evo and me getting a brand new shinny phone. Ha. I think I'm going to get the 3D
Update#1: wow like 20 mins later and wow the wifi timed out already had to restart it. Yeah this is really making me appreciate the Evo. This is my first Motorola phone by the way.Last.
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I hate to be a complete **** and rain on your flaming parade, but next time do your research before complaining about issues caused by you and blaming them on the phone.
Has anyone tried this with their Photon? http://www.verizonwireless.com/moto-bluetooth-smart-controller.shtml
Here is a video to see exactly what it does. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nurgwe20cO4
I bought myself this thing for Christmas from Verizon, and I am wondering if mine is defective, of if this thing just sucks. It looks so awesome, and more or less it works, but none of the multi touch gestures work.
This little track pad is supposed to support pinch to zoom, rotate, etc. In webtop it's supposed to support scrolling and other actions. But, it doesn't say it specifically supports them on the Photon. There are videos of it working on the RAZR. The bluetooth calling and answering work perfectly, which is really cool.
But the other problem is that it frequently disconnects for about 10 seconds, then reconnects. It seems to do it more when I try to use one of the multi-touch gestures.
The other con, that I think would be there even if I had a unit that was working properly, is that the mouse speed needs to be turned way up to use this thing effectively. It's too slow natively to navigate quickly around your big screen TV, and I had to swipe over the pad several times to move from one end of the screen to the other.
I still think it has potential. I was hoping it would be the solution I was looking for. Webtop watching Hulu on my big screen, phone rings, and I can just answer from my remote. Go back to watching hulu. Switch to mirror mode and play some N64 games when I am done, all leaving the phone docked. You can even use some of the voice actions to interact with the other features of the phone right from the controller.
Anyway, maybe some of your thoughts? Do you think this is defective, or the multi-touch gestures aren't compatible with MoPho?
That thing looks awesome. Have you tried calling motorola support? Keep us posted on how it works though.
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Not to be rude, but have you lost your f***in' mind, it's cool and all, but unless you're rich, or have hit the lottery, I doubt it's worth spending that much money for... You can get a Targus Tablet Keyboard for less that does the same thing, sans the trackpad...
I would have to assume that it would be compatible, it may be defective. It appears that the multi touch gestures are a part of the actual device instead of being interpreted on the phone itself. I can only assume this because it works on my Xoom, my RAZR, my wife's Thunderbold, and my wife's Galaxy tab.
And no, I don't think anyone has lost their minds, I have one myself that works very nicely with my RAZR and it was a sound investment given that I use it much like Bradleyw801 does. My phone stays docked, then I pull up Netflix or Hulu or whatever else I want to watch or do on the phone and still be able to use it as a phone if needed. I would say that it is almost a must for any phone with Webtop that will be used while docked.
Side note Bradley, check out a really cool app called Spool, it can pull video from websites for offline viewing...
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Not to be rude, but have you lost your f***in' mind, it's cool and all, but unless you're rich, or have hit the lottery, I doubt it's worth spending that much money for... You can get a Targus Tablet Keyboard for less that does the same thing, sans the trackpad...
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Hahaha, well, thank you for your opinion. I actually have a targus tablet keyboard, I bought it from Radio Shack back on my OG Evo. It's a great keyboard, but it actually doesn't have all the Android hardware keys working correctly. That keyboard is more designed for iOS devices. It's fine for typing, but I frequently have to re-pair it, and it's a little bit of a pain. If someone is looking for a bluetooth keyboard, I would actually recommend the Motorola Android Bluetooth Keyboard. I haven't been real happy with my Targus, and my friend has the Moto one. It's much more tailored for Android.
Also, you say "sans the trackpad", kind of ironic since that's literally the main reason to buy this. But you also seem to have missed where it works as a bluetooth headset, allowing you to make and take calls from the device while leaving your phone connected. The trackpad and mouse input are what I really want. I have a blutooth mouse, with a scroll wheel and everything, and when I am watching things from my phone on my TV, it's inconvenient to have to find a flat surface to move the mouse on. This made it so I could navigate laying down, with it under a blanket, or just in my hand. It's just much more comfortable and convenient. Plus, if I get a call, and I am super comfortable, I don't have to get up to answer it. I can answer it right there.
If you have never used your MoPho to watch content on your TV from either webtop, or the phone itself, this may seem frivolous, but if you have, then you can see the need for this.
I did call Moto, and they are as expected, pretty useless. They tried to walk me through rebooting the phone, and turning on bluetooth, and all of the really basic stuff, so I patronized them and did, but once it got down to the nuts and bolts, they were stumped and told me to return it.
I am going to take it into Verizon today and try to use it on the Razr or Xoom like another poster suggested. If it has issues there, then I can clearly rule it out as being defective. If it works on those, but not on my MoPho, then I may be back to the drawing board. Thanks for your help guys. I will let you know if I can get this working, as I still think it's something many people would care about.
I have one of these and the bluetooth keyboard coming. I'll let you know how it works on my mopho.
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I have one of these and the bluetooth keyboard coming. I'll let you know how it works on my mopho.
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Are you really that rich and that bored? Really?
I have HDMI out on my Desktop, never used it!
I have HDMI cable for Photon, too lazy to test it.
I have PS3 and 4 controllers, never used that either.
I have 2 laptop computers, I think they work!
I have gas stove, I think it works too!
I have 41" TV in Spare bedroom, never turned it on (matter fact, no sure its still there!)
I have 4-in-1 Game Table, I have not played one game of pool, Air Hockey, Fooseball or Ping Pong!!
Point is, why buy more worthless (and I mean that both ways! Not going to use it and it really is worthless!) crap!
EDIT: I have MoPho Photon, I think I can make calls!!! XDA, text, and internet work. Last actual phone call was 2 weeks (lying, operators called me at 3:45AM 2 nights ago. Phone works!)
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Are you really that rich and that bored? Really?
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Lol I wish. Luckily the only device specific accessories I've purchased are the car dock and HD dock ($78 together) so I'll sell those with the phone when I get rid of it.
The lapdock 500 (assuming google continues support), the moto smart controller, and moto bluetooth keyboard aren't device specific so I can use them on my Motorola Nexus
Alright so my smart controller arrived today and i gave it a quick 30 minute test drive and here's my initial thoughts:
FYI - I RSD'd a stock 198_7 SBF prior to testing. I did root it, but made no modifications, and the bootloader was locked so obviously, stock recovery.
1) Multi-touch doesn't completely not work as indicated in the OP. Pinch to zoom doesn't work, nor does rotate, but i've found 2 finger scrolling (in apps, in the app drawer, browser, etc) to work quite well. A little drag of 2 fingers up or down gives me a nice smooth scroll.
2) No issues with disconnect/reconnect for me. The mouse icon does disappear from my screen after a about 10 seconds of inactivity, but it's still 100% connected as can be seen by the bluetooth icon in the notification bar still being solid blue and going into settings shows the device is still connected. When i lightly touch the mouse pad, it wakes back up.
3) The OP was spot on with you need to adjust the scrolling speed of a mouse. Prior to turning it to "fastest" it took several swipes to move a couple inches. With the settings for the device turned up to the highest it seems to work just fine for me.
4) The volume rocker on the side of the mouse controls the ringer volume on the phone. Pretty cool.
5) The OP was spot on with the phone function also not working.
6) The USB charging cable that comes with it is the shortest, most unusable POS I've ever seen. It is literally like 4 inches long. No it does extend, no there's no magic involved .... it's just short and provides no purpose.
Final Thought - It's cool but not $100 cool. With it's current functionality, I'd value it at about $30. Once everything is fixed I'd gladly shell out $50 for it, and would begrudgingly pay $70 if I had to. Never though, would i pay $100 for it, even fully functional. Once everything works i could see this being useful if a person has and uses a lapdock and also the HD station. If you don't have either or even if you own them but don't use them regularly, this device is kind of pointless.
Hope that makes sense.
KSmithinNY,
Your opinion as an active forum member is greatly appreciated and valued.
Now, let me give you my opioion. You have too much Damm Money!!!!!
Told you not to get that crap!! But, if you lend me $30.00 (actual worth) I'll take the crap off your hands!!! (God, some days I kill myself!)
EDIT: Look for my "Things that piss off dsims7_2000" thread!
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KSmithinNY,
Your opinion as an active forum member is greatly appreciated and valued.
Now, let me give you my opioion. You have too much Damm Money!!!!!
Told you not to get that crap!! But, if you lend me $30.00 (actual worth) I'll take the crap off your hands!!! (God, some days I kill myself!)
EDIT: Look for my "Things that piss off dsims7_2000" thread!
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Ha ha ha I hear yah man. I'll keep you in mind if I feel like donating it. I enjoy participating in the community as much as I enjoy contributing so you might be surprised.
Send that crap to my crib and I will have you arrested!!! I'm the one that told you it was crap in the first place!!!
For those of you who have received your N10 already, do you mind sharing some of your thoughts on the device after playing with it? I know it will make the time to by faster for me.
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For those of you who have received your N10 already, do you mind sharing some of your thoughts on the device after playing with it? I know it will make the time to by faster for me.
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Build: It's nice, I actually like the rubberised backing and I love where the speakers are. It's taking a little getting used to as I recently sold my ipad 3. To me, it feels like I don't have to treat it as precious as the ipad, and that is something I really like.
Screen: Sharp as hell, The screen is great. Really great. Sharpest I've seen. The contrast is took some getting used to because my phone is an s3 so I'm used to over saturation. After spending the evening with it yesterday, I actually prefer the more natural looking colours. I did download a black image to look at light bleed and did notice a couple but to be honest, its not something I have ever looked for before and it's not a big deal, its not noticable on mine when using it.
Android 4.2: love the multi log in. Love how smooth it is. Browsing internet so far as been as good as my laptop. I always found Chrome and Safari to be quite annoying on ipad. Still undecided about my preference on the soft keys placement, time will tell! I had forgotton my entire music collection is synced on my laptop to google music, so i got a great suprise when i saw all my music and picasa collection synced.
Apps: I probably don't use apps as much as other people but I do miss some apps from the ipad, things like amazon, ebay etc. and a decent twitter client. I'm sure they will come and they can be just as good (look at expedia on ipad and android for good example) and there is one app you will not see in the app store, one of the main (if naughty) reasons I sold my ipad...utorrent :S
That's all I can think right now...camera is average, as to be expected I guess.
Hope this answers you question ok! Cheers.
Thanks for the write up!
Is the web page scrolling smooth on sites like the verge and droid life articles, especially in the comment section, as smooth as the ipad 3 in safari? That is really my only concern about the tablet after reading the other reviews. I just can't stand stutters when I'm scrolling a web page.
Thanks for the review!
I would also like to know how is the battery drain on first impression?
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I did download a black image to look at light bleed and did notice a couple.
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Bugger!
lozfromcorby said:
I did download a black image to look at light bleed and did notice a couple but to be honest, its not something I have ever looked for before and it's not a big deal, its not noticable on mine when using it.
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Where abouts is the light bleed located? How much light actually bleeds through? By that I mean is the light bleed spots noticeable brighter or only slightly.
It won't bother you during normal use, but would it if you watched a dark video?
My 32gb arrived yesterday late morning, used it on and off most of yesterday afternoon & evening.
Impressions:
In the box: Nexus 10, Quick Start manual, USB to micro-USB cable, USB adaptor & wallplug
Hardware:
Construction seems generally solid, I like the "grippy" rear on the device - you get have it on your knees without fear of it slipping off. My only gripe is how quickly the screen gets finger-print splattered, but that's a general tablet gripe rather than a Nexus 10 gripe.
Set-Up:
I had ticked the "link to my account" box upon ordering, so it greeted me by name when it booted up. Entering my Google password kicked off the quick & easy set-up process as any applicable apps (not all of them were) are downloaded onto the Nexus 10. Then came a OTA update to Jellybean, and a re-boot. Boot process is very fast - from switch on to login screen seems about 10 seconds.
Display:
As others have said. it is sharp. Very sharp. Zoomed text on web pages looks great. Games look great. Apps optimised for the tablet look great. No complaints about performance. I installed various widgets for email, twitter, FB etc. all without any issues.
User Accounts:
An excellent feature, and was very easy to set-up if you have google accounts for all users. Great for sharing the tablet around the family. My only concern is that now when I purchase an app on my account and someone else in the family want to use it, I will have to purchase it again for them - which is a bit of a gyp.
Battery:
Device came with about 70% battery. I plugged it in to charge whilst I was doing the set-up etc. During this period the device did not seem to gain any charge, but stayed about the same. When left alone on charge (not switched off), it seems to take a long time to charge up - probably managed about 10% in an hour. Left overnight it charged from 50% to full, no problem, but I'm going to see if a 10% or less battery will charge fully overnight tonight. Will not be very happy if it doesn't!
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My 32gb arrived yesterday late morning, used it on and off most of yesterday afternoon & evening.
Impressions:
In the box: Nexus 10, Quick Start manual, USB to micro-USB cable, USB adaptor & wallplug
Hardware:
Construction seems generally solid, I like the "grippy" rear on the device - you get have it on your knees without fear of it slipping off. My only gripe is how quickly the screen gets finger-print splattered, but that's a general tablet gripe rather than a Nexus 10 gripe.
Set-Up:
I had ticked the "link to my account" box upon ordering, so it greeted me by name when it booted up. Entering my Google password kicked off the quick & easy set-up process as any applicable apps (not all of them were) are downloaded onto the Nexus 10. Then came a OTA update to Jellybean, and a re-boot. Boot process is very fast - from switch on to login screen seems about 10 seconds.
Display:
As others have said. it is sharp. Very sharp. Zoomed text on web pages looks great. Games look great. Apps optimised for the tablet look great. No complaints about performance. I installed various widgets for email, twitter, FB etc. all without any issues.
User Accounts:
An excellent feature, and was very easy to set-up if you have google accounts for all users. Great for sharing the tablet around the family. My only concern is that now when I purchase an app on my account and someone else in the family want to use it, I will have to purchase it again for them - which is a bit of a gyp.
Battery:
Device came with about 70% battery. I plugged it in to charge whilst I was doing the set-up etc. During this period the device did not seem to gain any charge, but stayed about the same. When left alone on charge (not switched off), it seems to take a long time to charge up - probably managed about 10% in an hour. Left overnight it charged from 50% to full, no problem, but I'm going to see if a 10% or less battery will charge fully overnight tonight. Will not be very happy if it doesn't!
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Would be possible for you do a light bleed test for us?
MikeBuck said:
Would be possible for you do a light bleed test for us?
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At work atm, but will try when I get home.:good:
Wait... Apps are restricted by login account on the device? and not by device itself?
Damn... :/
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At work atm, but will try when I get home.:good:
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Work always gets in the way of having fun!
Mega, Thanks!
Can you have multiple users with the same gmail account? Or multiple gmail accounts under the same user? I feel like this would prevent having to repurchase apps.
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What about gaming? (Asphalt, need for speed)
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Hi,
I'm at work right now, can try and get a picture when I get in, its not noticable at all when screen in normal use, in black screen there is a very small amount in the top right hand corner and one in the bottom to the far left.
one thing i forgot to mention, the battery! seems good BUT I put it on charge at 10pm last night when it was 10% and by 7am it was at 91%. pretty slow by any standards, maybe just cos its a first charge but we will see though i have heard the pogo plug bit should charge much faster!
GETCASHMONEY said:
Can you have multiple users with the same gmail account? Or multiple gmail accounts under the same user? I feel like this would prevent having to repurchase apps.
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Gonna have a more in depth look at this tonight, but as each additional user I set-up was done using different gmail accounts & for each one it asked if I wanted to register a credit card, I concluded that apps purchases were done per account rather than per device. Hope not though!
First Impressions:
Slick fulfillment - Ordered 16gb at 11:16 am in UK on Tuesday, arrived 23 hours later!
Nice box Decent charge in battery
Looks cheap compared to the finish on my departed TF201, though feels nice in the hand.
Bezel looks slightly too large at sides due to the speakers.
Lovely screen, some very very minor light bleed, certainly nothing compared to my TF201.
Takes ages to charge via the micro USB, a faster solution is needed urgently.
4.2 being very early days mean a good few of my regularly used apps like MX Player and Boat Browser do not yet work.
Here is one I took last night with normal screen i nthe dark. perfect for movie watching, no?
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Gonna have a more in depth look at this tonight, but as each additional user I set-up was done using different gmail accounts & for each one it asked if I wanted to register a credit card, I concluded that apps purchases were done per account rather than per device. Hope not though!
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Haven't received my N10 yet however with the Android phones my family uses I created a "family" Gmail account that some purchases are made under. I add that "family" account as a secondary account on the phones (making sure to uncheck all sync options) and the apps are then available for all family members via the Play Store.
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Lovely screen, some very very minor light bleed, certainly nothing compared to my TF201.
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Good. If all the screens only have very minor light bleed at worst then we have nothing to worry about.
Any chance of a photo of a fully black screen showing how minor the light bleed is?
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Haven't received my N10 yet however with the Android phones my family uses I created a "family" Gmail account that some purchases are made under. I add that "family" account as a secondary account on the phones (making sure to uncheck all sync options) and the apps are then available for all family members via the Play Store.
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That's the exact same method I use.
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So I feel like I need a new toy...I've been tossing up whether to upgrade my phone or maybe get this tablet. Previously I've had all the Samsung phones...S1, S2, Note1 & 2 an now S3. On th3 tablet front though I've only had the TF101 with dock...it was OK but now mainly serves as a transfer device between phone and HDD since I dont have an actual PC. The performance issues were probably the most troubling issue I had with it. More Ram faster processor. ..good for its first gen experi3nce but thats it.
So my question really is do you recommend this tablet since time with your purchase? If not why not? I can deal with pesky lil annoyances but as a whole has your experience been enjoyable and not regretful? My purchase is literally a walk across the road...
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you have to think hard about this actually cause the tablet z is completely different than the tf101 with the dock
you'll need a bluetooth keyboard to retain the physical keyboard if that was something major to you
other than that i love the tablet so far only headache for me is the wireless issue but hopefully when i get back to school it'll work flawlessly with my router at school
I went from a TF101 with a dock myself to an SGP321 and I've got to tell you the performance and screen more than makes up for the lack of a physical keyboard and thus also a shorter battery life.
Remember how you get 16 hours of use at best out of the TF101 with the docking station? My SGP321 does around 8-9 with everything turned on and no power save except for brightness on auto (way too bright for night use otherwise). If I leave it on standby like this it will last for days.
In short, I'm not regretting the SGP321 at all (and LTE is a nice bonus even though my current provider only offers HSPA+).
I'm coming off a tf201 with dock and while there are some things I could miss with that combo the reality was I never really used it the way I thought. I back up all my files to a portable USB drive and the intent was to access that whenever I needed to, the reality is I also back them up to my server and it was almost always easier to log on and download from there. As for performance, there is no comparison, the Sony beats it hands down. I upgraded the Primes ROM to the latest Wookie rev which extended the life but there were so many other issues like lack of GPS, wifi connectivity etc, I've never experienced any wifi issues with the Sony, it is 5G capable and locks on to the AP without hesitation. The HDMI resolution is not as good as the Prime and it is noticeable, the Prime was HD, this is not but I can live with it.
Some of the pita issues are the port covers, I guess but it's still a pain except for the micro sd, it's good to have that covered as I lost a 32gb card out of the Prime. I also like the ability to lock the screen by closing the case like the ipads do, not possible on the Prime so that's a nice addition. The battery is not a big and takes longer to charge but at least you can do that via the usb port with just about any charger, the prime was cable and charger specific. The other pain was getting root and mostly that was my problem, I couldn't get past the ADB server out of date issue and finally diagnosed that to the Samsung adb drivers, I'd always unplug the phone when working on the Z so never saw them listed, only by mistake leaving both in did see it an once updated problem solved so now I have root and can restore via titanium.
I also have accumulated lots of Samsung products and have a SG3 which is the best phone I've ever used so was looking forward to their next generation slates, wow did they miss the mark. Here Sony is trying to give you good value and I think they succeed, it's fast and now fun to use again, highly recommended.
Hi!
Well, first the phone is not for myself but I will send it to my mom as her nokia died and I wanted a better phone with a bigger screen.
I almost went with a LG L9 4.5" but the bigger internal memory, faster CPU and better camera features on the Amaze made me change my mind.
So, I was thinking maybe I need to root it to remove anything that slows it down but in reality, mom is not a power user. I will just have her do MMS now so maybe is not worth spending time figuring out a new system (I come from Samsung, Asus Prime, Xperia) for a user that really is not going to notice any lag etc.
I got it with a 5 pin cable which seems NOT to be the right one and charges slow so one thing I am getting is an OEM 12 pin for it unless I am not right about this.
So anything you like to share, I am happy to read about.
Thanks!
shaolin95 said:
Hi!
Well, first the phone is not for myself but I will send it to my mom as her nokia died and I wanted a better phone with a bigger screen.
I almost went with a LG L9 4.5" but the bigger internal memory, faster CPU and better camera features on the Amaze made me change my mind.
So, I was thinking maybe I need to root it to remove anything that slows it down but in reality, mom is not a power user. I will just have her do MMS now so maybe is not worth spending time figuring out a new system (I come from Samsung, Asus Prime, Xperia) for a user that really is not going to notice any lag etc.
I got it with a 5 pin cable which seems NOT to be the right one and charges slow so one thing I am getting is an OEM 12 pin for it unless I am not right about this.
So anything you like to share, I am happy to read about.
Thanks!
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Yes the 12 pin is better, but unless you've got the factory charger, go for a quality higher amperage one like the generic dual purpose type that can be used with a tablet. These beasts draw a lot of current, so much so that when plugged-in and used with a lesser charger, it will still be draining its battery.
Even though it's for your mom I'd still root it and install Titanium Backup. Then I'd remove the T-Mobile and HTC bloat, some of which never worked, or no longer works. Then after removing the cruft, I'd install every available update then integrate them into '/system/app' with TiBu. Finally, I'd unroot and relock it, to avoid the late night service calls she'd give you if she accidentally messed with something she shouldn't have. Then you'll be good to go.
I did this very same procedure when I hooked my mom and stepdad up with smartphones last year. They both were new to these devices. They previously owned moto RAZRs. They live outside of Memphis and I live in Miami. The one thing I feared in getting them Androids vs iPhones were the possible late night tech calls from them. So I did for them exactly what I told you and they've been happy owners ever since.
I hope this helps.
Ciao
That sounds like a good plan.
Any specific charger you recommend or anything listed for HTC tablets etc should do the trick from ebay?
Looks like THIS should work.
shaolin95 said:
That sounds like a good plan.
Any specific charger you recommend or anything listed for HTC tablets etc should do the trick from ebay?
Looks like THIS should work.
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It should work. I bought my amaze off Craig's list after I broke my HD2. I got it relatively cheap ($100), but it had no charger or data cable. I thought no big deal, I'll just use the HD2's. Thats when I discovered how much this juice uses. The HD2 charger just wasn't up to the task. I kept getting warnings about the current draw being too much and the device was unable to charge.
I wanted to resolve that right away. So I went to Best Buy and overpaid for a generic one with the highest amperage output they had. It's rated at 2.4 amps, I think my old one was rated at 0.8. You don't have to worry about too much amperage because of the regulator in the phone. Plus by getting the one I did, I figured I'd be equipped for any type of device I might throw at it in the future. That in combination with the 12 pin cable has worked for me. Now I can do even the most intensive task while plugged in and it never gives me a warning anymore about my device being unable to charge. I hope this helps, good luck!
The charger I got is rated like the original 5v 1Amp but the cable is surely not doing the job. Still I will just get that charger and call it a day.
Thanks amigo!