Anyone disappointed with Transformer Prime battery life? Just 5 hours!? - Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime

According to the review from The Verge, Transformer Prime loses out in battery life to iPad 2 and other competing tablets and is only marginally better than iPad 2 when the keyboard dock is attached.
I find this very disappointing, I did not expect Asus to announce their battery life with the device in its lowest setting, while iPad 2 gets eight hours of battery life in 'normal mode'.
5 hours is very, very low. I expected them to at least match iPad 2, especially when they announced that it will survive for 12 hours.

The Verge review is by far the lowest of any of them. Several report 10+ hours when playing video. Anandtech has 8 hours with an apparent mixed load.

It was advertised as 10:04 on Balanced, the default setting. That review uses Normal, where the two power-hungry cores are always active, instead of shutting off when they aren't needed.
Check out the bolded "NOTE:" where they say they're rerunning the battery test. Engadget said it lost to the iPad 2 by only 9 minutes on Balanced.
EDIT: And, according to the comments, this is without discharging/recharging the battery - battery stats aren't calibrated yet.

I think 5 hours is just for the dock and 10:17hours (according to engadget) for the the tablet...a total of whooping 15+ hours, not BAD at all

No, the review on Engadget said that they expected 15+ hours with the dock.

skpamnani said:
I think 5 hours is just for the dock and 10:17hours (according to engadget) for the the tablet...a total of whooping 15+ hours, not BAD at all
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No, they cannot test how long battery lasts on the dock alone. The Verge found that it survives 10 hours with the dock.
Balanced mode or not, fact is that iPad 2 is rated being in 'normal' mode for more than eight hours. Prime in normal mode only gets 5 hours. They may advertise their 'balanced' mode, but that is not as good in performance according to the review. In fact, the whole quad-core for tablet is put in doubt, it doesn't make the interface (and browser) faster at all, it only seems to help with games.
I am disappointed.

I'm impressed as this tablet doesn't need to run in normal mode 24/7, meaning 4 cores on all the time. That'll be a waste when balanced mode alone makes it as snappy ,if not more than ipad2. This still has the best battery life of any android tablet I've seen. All sites I've seen that reviewed it are very impressed with battery life. Plus the source you listed isn't as reputable as the main ones churning out the praises on battery life. Instead of just taking that one review and making an assumption, compare all of them. Seems strange that one site out of several giving it negative battery comments. As it's also strange you being disappointed already on an assumption from a sub par tech review site..lmao.
Get an ipad2 then while we blow past ya with the excellent performance and battery life of the prime.

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Get an ipad2 then while we blow past ya with the excellent performance and battery life of the prime.
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Well, you won't. iPad 2 has a better GPU and does not need a 'balanced mode' to have a battery life as long. iPad 2 gets 8 hours of battery life in their 'normal' mode that only lasts five hours on Prime.
I am still going for Prime, because I'm Android developer and my phone is an Android, but I was hoping that Prime would have battery life longer than devices released six months ago without having to tune down the performance that makes it fast.
Now it is a trade-off.

kristovaher said:
Well, you won't. iPad 2 has a better GPU and does not need a 'balanced mode' to have a battery life as long. iPad 2 gets 8 hours of battery life in their 'normal' mode that only lasts five hours on Prime.
I am still going for Prime, because I'm Android developer and my phone is an Android, but I was hoping that Prime would have battery life longer than devices released six months ago without having to tune down the performance that makes it fast.
Now it is a trade-off.
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I think you missed the point of what he was trying to say. The site you are quoting your stats from in regards to battery life was the only one that rated it low in that regards. Let's take engadgets review for instance which on "normal" mode lasted for 10:17 which was 9 minutes shorter than their iPad 2 test. So the idea was if placed in "balanced" mode it would get longer life than its already good life.
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kristovaher said:
Well, you won't. iPad 2 has a better GPU and does not need a 'balanced mode' to have a battery life as long. iPad 2 gets 8 hours of battery life in their 'normal' mode that only lasts five hours on Prime.
I am still going for Prime, because I'm Android developer and my phone is an Android, but I was hoping that Prime would have battery life longer than devices released six months ago without having to tune down the performance that makes it fast.
Now it is a trade-off.
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iPad 2 gpu has more raw power but not the resources to back it up. There are hardly any ipad2 only optimized games out. Most stuff I can still run on my ipad1. I don't think Asus never claimed 12 hours battery life with 4 cores running at once. I never assumed that either. I see what you are saying though. Just compare the different battery reviews. Plus battery wasn't even truly calibrated yet. So it'll get more than 5 hrs. In normal mode. You have to remember to we talking about apple, the king kong of tech..lol they have the money to be lit years ahead of the game. That's why my ipad1 still performs great for me although it's clearly not the highest spec tablet out now.
The go out in get an ipad2 was just a joke. Android is getting closer and closer to closing the gap on quality and performance with iPad. This Asus Transformer prime is what will start the next wave/revolution of high tech tablets and Android in general. I've been thinking also about those different power modes and display modes of which I would use the most. Seems like the balanced mode does well without noticeable drop in performance since it uses amped up dual core. I would think normal mode only needed for intense gaming or very resource hungry apps. We will see once it comes out. Regardless, this will be a great price of machinery at a lower price entry and higher gb storage than ipad2.

Anand review reports 9 hours and Engadget reports 10 hours battery use....both tablet only..
either the unit the Verge got was faulty..or their battery test was significantly different

What is this Prime "normal mode" and "balanced mode"?
I know what they are, but is there some kind of a "switch" to choose between normal and balanced mode?
An option in the setting?
I thought the Tegra 3 will determine this 5ft core functionality (when to use) automatically.

gogol said:
What is this Prime "normal mode" and "balanced mode"?
I know what they are, but is there some kind of a "switch" to choose between normal and balanced mode?
An option in the setting?
I thought the Tegra 3 will determine this 5ft core functionality (when to use) automatically.
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Asus implements 3 different settings for the Quadcore, this is from Anandtech.com:
There are three power profiles ASUS and NVIDIA have defined on the Prime: Normal, Balanced and Power Saver. Normal allows the CPU to run at up to 1.4GHz with only a single core active, and 1.3GHz otherwise. Balanced is the default setting and it drops maximum CPU clock to 1.2GHz and favors lower clock/voltage targets on the curve compared to Normal mode. Power Saver caps CPU frequency at 1GHz with 1 - 2 cores active, 760MHz with 3 cores active and 620MHz with 4 cores active. It's unclear what the impact is on GPU clocks/performance.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/6

Thanks ... So the difference between Normal and Balance is 0.1 - 0.2 ...
Normal = Max 1.4 GHz (1 core) or 1.3 GHz (2 - 4 cores)
Balanced = Max 1.2 GHz (1 - 4 cores)
Not much different, isn't it?
I would choose Balanced and be done with it.
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Asus implements 3 different settings for the Quadcore, this is from Anandtech.com:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/6
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Thanks ... So the difference between Normal and Balance is 0.1 - 0.2 ...
Normal = Max 1.4 GHz (1 core) or 1.3 GHz (2 - 4 cores)
Balanced = Max 1.2 GHz (1 - 4 cores)
Not much different, isn't it?
I would choose Balanced and be done with it.
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The mode also determines how the CPU speed scales to meet loads
ie Balanced would be slower to rise to its max 1.2 GHz than Normal

wow op sounds like an apple fanboy, he just keeps ignoring what everyone has to say about the review being the only one to state a 5 hour energy life.
if its only 5 hours i wouldn't buy it.

blaziner18 said:
wow op sounds like an apple fanboy, he just keeps ignoring what everyone has to say about the review being the only one to state a 5 hour energy life.
if its only 5 hours i wouldn't buy it.
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I do not own a single Apple device and recently purchased Galaxy Nexus in my line of Android devices. I am also an Android developer. Just because I am disappointed by the battery life on the so-called 'normal' mode does not mean I am an Apple fanboy.

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I do not own a single Apple device and recently purchased Galaxy Nexus in my line of Android devices. I am also an Android developer. Just because I am disappointed by the battery life on the so-called 'normal' mode does not mean I am an Apple fanboy.
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both anand and engadget reviews were running Normal mode too...and the batter life rivels iPad even without dock..and certainly the best among all android tablets.

kristovaher said:
I do not own a single Apple device and recently purchased Galaxy Nexus in my line of Android devices. I am also an Android developer. Just because I am disappointed by the battery life on the so-called 'normal' mode does not mean I am an Apple fanboy.
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You still fail to accept what everyone else is saying.
But here's an idea: Just get the prime and send it back to where ever you bought if it doesn't please you...
What about checking the battery life YOURSELF before whining here? Good idea?

Diamondback2010 said:
You still fail to accept what everyone else is saying.
But here's an idea: Just get the prime and send it back to where ever you bought if it doesn't please you...
What about checking the battery life YOURSELF before whining here? Good idea?
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Are we turning into Apple fanboys ourselves!? Seriously, I can be critical about the device, stop acting as if I don't have a right to voice my concerns or share my opinion.
Of course I will check the battery myself once it's released. I simply expected it to perform better in reviews than it has. This is not just because The Verge shows weaker battery life than devices released months ago, but also AnandTech, where the battery apparently lasts less than iPad 2 as well. I keep bringing out iPad 2 not only because it is so widely known, but also because it is the standard other devices are measured against in terms of application speed and UI.
I simply expected it to blow opposition out of the water, but it is only marginally better in some ways. The quad-core also does not enhance Android experience as has been pointed out, it doesn't make the UI and apps slicker unless in really obvious examples, like a game (and iPad 2 is also great in games).
I am also disappointed to hear that some of the integral things, like a browser, is not as fast as one would expect from a quad-core device. The lags in zooming and moving around have been pointed out in reviews.
And it just outright loses against iPad 2 in processing power too.
So it costs as much as an iPad 2, but loses out in both battery life and performance. It is better in some ways, like the camera, but really, it does not blow the opposition out of the water. It will not be the 'best Android tablet' out there for long either.

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Post your battery life reports - how long did it run?

After some searching, I can't find a thread dedicated to *just* battery life reports.
Lots of discussion and long rants/stories/theories/anecdotes/etc/etc.
Please answer just the facts:
Just TF201 Tablet or TF201 Tablet & Dock
From what to what including Dock values if applicable
Example: 100% (tablet/dock combined) to 15%tablet/30% dock, etc. etc.
How long: number of hours ran
Usage notes: what you're doing, idle, tasks, screen brightness, tricks etc.
Please just the facts
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HOW? use this free app to measure tablet/dock battery life:
https://market.android.com/details?id=org.flexlabs.widgets.dualbattery&hl=en
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After some searching, I can't find a thread dedicated to *just* battery life reports.
Lots of discussion and long rants/stories/theories/anecdotes/etc/etc.
Please answer just the facts:
Just TF201 Tablet or TF201 Tablet & Dock
From what to what including Dock values if applicable
Example: 100% (tablet/dock combined) to 15%tablet/30% dock, etc. etc.
How long: number of hours ran
Usage notes: what you're doing, idle, tasks, screen brightness, tricks etc.
Please just the facts
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I have been using my TP docked all day. woke up this morning at like 9 with 100 on both dock + tablet and have been watching anime since . It's 8 now and my dock is 0 and my tablet is about to die as well. I'm at about 40% brightness, I was expecting better battery life though.
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I get about 4-5 hours use from it doing simple tasks in low power mode.... 12 hours is a lie, if i use it on and off i can make it almost al day but that is with very minimal usage.
So i say u get about 5 hours low power mode and like 3-4 hours in normal mode ( nonstop usage).
jzen: I suggest you rma for that battery life, I have a lot of issues with the prime but battery is not one of them.
robomo:
tf201no dock, 100% charge, 80% superips brightness. gps off bt off, wifi on.
playing shadowgun thd, and watching netflix lasts me about 7 to 8 hours (full usage as passenger, no breaks except 5 min bio stops etc) on my ride from reno to las vegas using my droidx hotspot for wifi net while playing shadowing thd in dead spots.
rooted ics, stock cpu frequency no special tricks.
Here's my most recent battery report. Been using it for a little bit of everything, videos, music streaming, some games, other miscellaneous apps.
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Tablet only
100% to 74%
2.5 hours
Wi-fi on, gps/sync/bluetooth off... eco-mode with backlight way down and streaming Internet radio (screen forced on whole time)
I ran mine pretty hard yesterday.
12.5 hours from 100% to 7%.
No dock, all tablet.
Watched some Dexter on Netflix, Recorded Video, used max brightness, power save, full power etc.
Surfed, Streamed, GTAIII, you name it. Used Bluetooth while streaming / gaming.
That is far more than i would ever do in a normal day.
Gotta say I am happy. My Tab 10.1 only lasted about 5-6 hours under similar load.
I guess if I averaged out each day with normal use I'm getting between 9 and 10hours in normal mode with the screen at 50 to 75% brightness. I do a lot of gaming and surfing. Since my Prime is new I'm still am doing a lot of customization. That will tail off a bit and I suspect my battery life should go up a bit. I have not rooted yet though. When I do charge it takes about 2 hours to go from under 10% to 100% on the wall charger and it turned off. I'm real happy with that.
Try this one on for size!!!
Here is my battery usage...though I will say that I am testing it for a battery spike usage so I did not use my prime at all during this time period...and you can see the issue I am having with the spike...but this is after a full charge with minimal use of just the browser from time to time....I am curious if anyone else is seeing this kind of battery spikes:
100%-29%
6 hours - at this rate I'd get roughly 8.5-9 hours out of a total charge
Tablet only, power save mode, screen forced on, low brightness, wifi on, bluetooth/gps off, streaming internet radio...
Tablet + Dock
100% tablet/100% dock to 7% tablet/0% dock
12 hours
listening to music, running TuneIn radio app in the background over wifi, screen forced on, lowest brightness.
bluetooth/sync/gps off.
Playing games, music playback, stream videos from desktop, youtube. prime only. About 7-8 hours on power saving/screen brightness 2 notch up from lowest.
Cheers!
Moderate usage juat tablet
23hr 67% left
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I don't mean to go off topic (I will update this post with my battery info with dock after I go through another charge)
does anyone have bad idle with the dock after ICS? I lose 1% every 2 hours when its just sitting there screen off in sleep mode wifi off
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Here is my battery usage...though I will say that I am testing it for a battery spike usage so I did not use my prime at all during this time period...and you can see the issue I am having with the spike...but this is after a full charge with minimal use of just the browser from time to time....I am curious if anyone else is seeing this kind of battery spikes:
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Frequently, battery "spikes" are just where there's no data for a moment--in otherwords, if you reboot your Prime, during the reboot there's a gap in the battery recording data that then looks like a spike on the graph. It could be that.
Sure the prime can idle for 2 days or more but if your interested in actual batter life during use it is realistically about 6 hours of battery life on just the prime. The dock will help you to get another 4-6 hours.
Again, non-stop usage you will get around 6 hours battery life (gaming and netflix).
jzen said:
Sure the prime can idle for 2 days or more but if your interested in actual batter life during use it is realistically about 6 hours of battery life on just the prime. The dock will help you to get another 4-6 hours.
Again, non-stop usage you will get around 6 hours battery life (gaming and netflix).
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I can constantly get 8 hours non stop usage out of mine with about 7-10% remaining.....just because something happens to you that doesn't mean we are all wrong or lying..at some point you need to realize the common denominator is you
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THERE is no denying the battery life on this device is Great. WAY better than my Ipad with same type of usage. PRIME was rated at the top of tablets in battery life. Only a lil bit behind ipad2 but more than ipad1. IT clearly has the best battery life of any android tablet out there. AMAZING considering its also the most powerful tablet out now also.
demandarin said:
THERE is no denying the battery life on this device is Great. WAY better than my Ipad with same type of usage. PRIME was rated at the top of tablets in battery life. Only a lil bit behind ipad2 but more than ipad1. IT clearly has the best battery life of any android tablet out there. AMAZING considering its also the most powerful tablet out now also.
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It kicks Chuck Norris' ass, straight up
12 hours of 100% screen on+wifi is a *tremendous* amount of battery life in a netbook-type form factor with the dock. There's only a few that could possibly come close, but not without sacrificing weight, size or horsepower or cost - $650 is simply amazing for this kind of device....especially now that Ubuntu has been formally chrooted onto it.
But usage styles, manufacturing defects, you name it, will influence battery life.
One guy reported only getting 4-5 hours of solid tablet-only battery life, which sounds like a manufacturing defect.
I'm also extremely interested in getting a baseline "real" number - sounds like 8-9hours is 'bout right for wifi/screen on 100%
Can't wait to start tweaking the hell out of it's software wise, underclocking, smart radio on-off.
I really believed ASUS' 18 hour battery life claim, however I'm curious what it's going to take in real life.
A lot of guys will overclock the Tegra3 for more performance - they're already doing that.
I'm the opposite - give me as little clock as possible and max out the battery life - I *really* geek out when I can eek out another hour
robomo said:
It kicks Chuck Norris' ass, straight up
12 hours of 100% screen on+wifi is a *tremendous* amount of battery life in a netbook-type form factor with the dock. There's only a few that could possibly come close, but not without sacrificing weight, size or horsepower or cost - $650 is simply amazing for this kind of device....especially now that Ubuntu has been formally chrooted onto it.
But usage styles, manufacturing defects, you name it, will influence battery life.
One guy reported only getting 4-5 hours of solid tablet-only battery life, which sounds like a manufacturing defect.
I'm also extremely interested in getting a baseline "real" number - sounds like 8-9hours is 'bout right for wifi/screen on 100%
Can't wait to start tweaking the hell out of it's software wise, underclocking, smart radio on-off.
I really believed ASUS' 18 hour battery life claim, however I'm curious what it's going to take in real life.
A lot of guys will overclock the Tegra3 for more performance - they're already doing that.
I'm the opposite - give me as little clock as possible and max out the battery life - I *really* geek out when I can eek out another hour
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Well you know since we rooted already, you can use system tuner pro to manually lower the Max speed to increase battery life even more. It also has some presets n there which I think it has its own power savings mode also. It might even be better than Asus
Power savings mode. Haven't tried it out yet.

Nexus 6P Battery life thread

Everything on the N6P fit my bill except I'm still a bit skeptical on battery life. Its got one of the biggest battery capacity right now of 3450 mAh + new marshmallow power saving feature but I'm worried about the power hungry Qualcomm 810. My current G4 is only with 3000 mAh which I get roughly ~3-4hr SOT of gaming/chat/browsing/GPS which only last me 2/3 of the day so I always carry two batteries. (I hate carrying an urine pack). Compare to N6P, G4 also use 808 processor. I'm wondering if N6P on single charge can finally last me a full day. I found none of hands-on got battery remarks, so wondering if anyone got any reference data
im waiting for some reviews too because i dont think this phone will last me one full day.
lets see, hope im wrong.
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The faster charging negates this stuff for me, I'm very rarely not around an outlet.
i don't have any technical sources to help my argument, but the use of 4 low-power cores should, in theory, help the 810 be the "better performer" when it comes to battery management. additionally, marshmallow is designed to suspend/kill processes that are battery dependent when the device has reached some level of sleep.
what i don't understand is the sleep timing. the high-level information i've read indicates that the phone will only go in to a "deep sleep" when it's basically face down, on your table, while you're asleep. this would be utterly useless to me as my phone remains plugged in overnight.
where i suspect the unknown impact to battery life will be lies within the micro-permission controls at the application level. having the ability to deny certain settings may help to extend battery and performance. on the flip side, i also see devs getting smarter about these controls and forcing the application to not even function if you disable a key role.
whatever happens, the 3450 ought to have better battery life than my '13 2200mAh X.
Between the 3450 battery and fast charge, I have no worries at all.
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what i don't understand is the sleep timing. the high-level information i've read indicates that the phone will only go in to a "deep sleep" when it's basically face down, on your table, while you're asleep. this would be utterly useless to me as my phone remains plugged in overnight.
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I don't think it has to be face down. But if it's stationary, it will go into deep sleep and start killing off unnecessary processes. What's annoying about the N6 is that the back isn't flat. I constantly see my n6 waking up to display content on the screen from simply being on the same surface as my keyboard. The N6P being mostly flat, would wobble less when left on a desk.
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im waiting for some reviews too because i dont think this phone will last me one full day.
lets see, hope im wrong.
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If this phone doesn't then which one will?
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If this phone doesn't then which one will?
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g flex 1 with 8~9 SOT
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g flex 1 with 8~9 SOT
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Also Sony Z5 and Z5 compact
I'm running Marshmallow on my N9 now and I have to say the idle battery drain is greatly improved. Granted I've had it on M for less than 48 hours but last night for example I set my tablet down around 1am. At 7:30am this morning it had dropped from 86% to 84%.
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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Could also be brightness level adjustments.
JasonJoel said:
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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After this N5 which can barely give 3 hrs SOT at best, I'd be more than happy to get even a sure 4.5 hrs [emoji14]
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I'm expecting over 6+ hours of SoT. I get 5 hours and a few minuted with my Note 4. If doze doesn't beat that, I'm returning it and opting for the Z5 instead.
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If that gets 8 hrs then this surely will too. Only difference is 50mah in battery size. The 810 is m more battery efficient and so is the amoled screen.
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Even though I don't have one yet, I'm going out on a limb and say it will last as long as it is charged! :silly:
I would like to point out that with software, you can basically make this a snapdragon 808. The 810 is 2 quad core chips, one with a57(high power) cores and the other with a53(lower power) cores. The a57's are clocked at 2.5ghz by default, it appears huawei has underclocked them to 2.0 (smart move).
The 808 is a very similar setup, but instead of a quad core with a57's, it's a dual core clocked at 1.8ghz. Plus the gpu is worse.
So if you root and get a kernel editor... you can disable 2 a57 cores, underclock the cpu by 200mhz, and underclock the gpu by (I wanna say?) 100mhz,
BAM! Snapdragon 808.
This should pretty much negate any overheating issues, because does the 808 overheat? No. Will this boost battery performance? Yes. Will the phone still be usable? Heck yeah.
I will probably end up doing this before it's over with. It wouldn't be quite as lightning fast as it will be full speed ahead, but I'm coming from a nexus 4 with an s4 pro (The equivalent of an underclocked snapdragon 600). I'm hoping with this configuration, 24 hours with 7 hours sot.
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I would like to point out that with software, you can basically make this a snapdragon 808. The 810 is 2 quad core chips, one with a57(high power) cores and the other with a53(lower power) cores. The a57's are clocked at 2.5ghz by default, it appears huawei has underclocked them to 2.0 (smart move).
The 808 is a very similar setup, but instead of a quad core with a57's, it's a dual core. Plus the gpu is worse.
So if you root and get a kernel editor... you can disable 2 a57 cores, underclock the cpu by 200mhz, and underclock the gpu by (I wanna say?) 100mhz, and bam. Snapdragon 808.
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And bam crappy lg g4 or moto x?
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And bam crappy lg g4 or moto x
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Yeah pretty much. Haha.
In all honesty though, they preform just fine, and battery life is one of the most important features to me. It's all personal preference.
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If that gets 8 hrs then this surely will too. Only difference is 50mah in battery size. The 810 is m more battery efficient and so is the amoled screen.
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ofcourse not 2k screen will sux that battery like a wh*****
and huawei battery tec is not good at all just check their phone with over 4000 battery
i expect to get about 5h sot on 6p
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Can we have a serious discussion about Android battery life?

Let me start by saying that I'm not some hardcore phone enthusiast. I don't care about having a 16-core 43847293847293847893 petaflop processor with a GPU equivalent to 2 Nvidia SLIs.
I mainly care about battery life and UI/App smoothness (Especially the browser). A good-looking UI is also good, but not mandatory.
I was reading a review about the recently released Samsung Z3 (Tizen phone) from a Russian site called mobile-review (You can google it. Not hard to find.) and here is a snippet of the battery portion of the review:
By modern standards, Li-Ion 2600 mAh battery capacity is perceived as typical, not very large battery. If we draw parallels with Android, there is a 5-inch device with the battery does not run for a long time, it's the strength of a single day. But the organization of Tizen is that in real mode of the device shows the stunning results in which it is simply impossible to believe, and you have a long look at the phone and ask why he is still working.
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Unfortunately, the utility does not show the screen during operation, but in my case, about 2 hours. In mixed mode, when you are using a browser other functions, you can achieve in practice 3-4 days a full time job working with the screen at the level of 7-8 hours. It's fantastic.
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The review was translated using google translate. If you're having trouble deciphering what the guy is saying, he's simply stating that the Z3 can run for 3-4 days with 7-8 hours of screen on-time. The reviewer is shocked and impressed.
Note that the Z3 only has a 2,600 mAH battery and isn't even using the latest and most efficient components available.
I would love to have a phone that can last that long. My Galaxy Note 3 and 4 with its 3,000+ mAH battery doesn't even last half as long. It'll get 2 days of use with 4 hours SoT. iPhones are even worse.
If a Tizen phone ever reaches the US, I'm planning on jumping ship unless google gets Android in order. Processors are plenty powerful today to run basic tasks fluidly. All I care about is battery life.

2020 Battery Life

I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
I disabled some apps that I'll never use, but otherwise I don't need to gimp it to make it through the day. I noticed a slight improvement in battery life with Android 10. I don't do much gaming, but I do a lot of web browsing, YouTube, and listen to Google Play Music and Sirius XM, and it has no problems lasting a full day.
I have the Snapdragon model. I don't have any experience with the Exynos model, but if you are in the UK, then I would recommend going with Exynos just for the warranty. There may be some YouTube videos comparing the battery and performance differences, you may want to look for those. I remember a couple of years ago the Exynos models were noticeably worse as far as battery, but I think the latest Exynos chips have closed the gap.
If battery life is a top priority, then you should consider the Note 10+ which has 23% larger battery (4300 vs 3500 mAh).
One last thing to consider: The Galaxy S20 models are right around the corner. I am not trying to talk you out of a Note, but if you can live without the Spen, you might want to wait for the Galaxy S20 Plus and Ultra. The Plus model is supposed to have a 4500 mAh battery, and the Ultra is rumored to have a massive 5000 mAh battery.
Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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I own exynos note10 plus
Battery time is average.
battery timing is inversely proportional to the time you are free
sublimaze said:
More battery life is *always* better, but I really have no complaints about my Note 10 battery. It lasts all day, every day. I average 5.5 hours SOT, but it would get a lot more if I pushed it below 10% charge. However, I rarely let it drop below 30%, or fully charge to 100%. I try to take it off the charger between 60-80% to preserve long-term battery life. So while 5.5 hours SOT may seem low to other Note users, I am averaging 5.5 hours SOT from only a 50-70% charge, which is pretty damn good imo.
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Edit: Btw, congrats on graduating from iOS. You'll love the customizability of Android, and now that RCS is available, you won't miss iMessage as much :good:
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Thanks for taking the time to reply - appreciate it. Sounds like our usage patterns are similar. I don’t really game but I use web and media on public transport for a couple of hours a day, in poor signal areas so every phone I’ve had struggles.
Am trying to keep phone size down, the Note 10 Plus is definitely too big! I like the fact that with the standard Note 10 it’s almost the same size as my current iPhone XS, just 5mm taller.
Re graduating (haha) I’ve had android before. Before this iPhone I had the OnePlus 5T and really liked it until I changed cars and it completely refused to talk to the audio system.
I found a YouTube video comparing the Qualcomm and Exynos Note 10’s and in his test he got 7 hrs from the Exynos and 8hrs from the Snapdragon. Wow, bit of a difference.
Will see what the S20 (standard size) is like, and then decide whether to risk an imported Note 10 [emoji106]
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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I've not seen any discussion on battery life since the launch of the Note 10. Would people please share:
1. How is it now that there's been time for Samsung to fix early issues
2. Did Android 10 upgrade help?
3. Does it last through a day of heavy use?
4. Snapdragon or Exynos?
More info: I'm considering buying the Note 10 but the original reviews are mixed. Some say battery life is good but most say it's disappointing. It would be to replace an iPhone XS that is 12 months old, battery health is a shocking 84% and the SoT time is less than 3 hours, so I won't be buying any more overpriced junk from Apple. I'm in the UK so would be getting the Exynos unless I take a risk and grey import a Snapdragon, and live without the warranty.
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
That’s really good, lots of owners don’t get that out of the Plus model
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So i got my Exynos note10 (not a new one, a used one but in a good shape) a week ago running android Q, and the battery drain was a little bit higher than average (compared to what people claiming in the battery section). So i decided to do a fresh reset by flashing a firmware using odin, after that i did some optimizations, disabling features that i dont really need, debloating some apps and waiting for the phone to learn my battery usage pattern (it took me around 4-5 days).So now I can get 7 to 8 hours of SOT using Chrome as my web browser, social media apps, and youtube. So yeah i think the 3500 mah battery is doing a pretty good job.
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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Can you tell us more what did you disable, what did you uninstall/disabled and more...
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Took another look at the Note 10 today and think it's an absolutely stunning looking device. Best looking phone around for me. I noted in the Samsung store that they don't offer any sort of satisfaction guarantee, which is disappointing. Would have been tempted to take one if I had some insurance on the battery life not working out.
But the S20 has now launched, and it's impressive from a specs point of view. Time to see how the S20 reviews play out.
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Yes, the S20 phones are phenomenal, especially the S20 Ultra. Which means the Note 11/20 will be an absolute beast
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So the first thing i did was to flash a stock firmware and root it using magisk. Then i charged my phone until it get 100%, i use it until it dies and cannot get booted again (when the phone dies keep rebooting it until it cannot get rebooted again). I did the charging and discharging thing twice. I think this step is like calibrating your battery, correct me if I am wrong.
Then thanks to this post : https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-10/how-to/galaxy-note-10-note-10-plus-debloat-t3964225 i debloated Bixby, samsung pass / pay , samsung sticker center... Do this step at your own risk because you can brick your phone if you didnt choose correctly what to debloat.
Then i enabled Adaptive power saving, put unused apps to sleep, Optimise Battery usage and i restricted background activity and i use dark mode all the time.
I disabled Air action and all features related to S pen ( i only use s pen for writing).
You may not notice a big difference in the battery life until your phone learns usage pettern ("Learning pattern" usage becomes "An estimated time" in device care battery's section)
If you are on a rooted phone then you can use greenify to hibernate other apps.
Additional information, my phone battery drains from like 100% to 80% much quicker and then it start to go slower and slower because each battery behaves in a different way.
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You are wrong this is really old battery habits. For several years and actual battery tech it's not recommended to fully discharge , the best way to improve battery life is to stay over 20% and avoid fast charging. That is also not how phone calibrates batteries.
Source: https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/
Battery life on the Snapdragon Note 10+ has been great. It stayed consistent with the Android 10 update. I had the Note 8 before this phone, and I'd have to say the 10+ is better.
Indeed the difference is not so abysmal as before
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Correction, the video of the Snapdragon getting another hour of screen time is the S10, not the Note 10, which means the Exynos is the 8nm 9820 rather than the 9825 in the Note.
Video for reference https://youtu.be/shrYnaxVenE
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Actually, there is a comparison for Note 10+ Exynos vs Snapdragon and indeed, the difference in battery is now minimal, of course the weak point for the Exynos is still the Mali GPU. So it looks like for power comsuption is now more even between Exynos 9825 and Snapdragon 855 (which is kind of obvious since both are 7nm)
Video of the comparison: https://youtu.be/Ni0sCLDoPPs
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Interesting thanks.
One of the things I’ve been bitten with on iPhones is the effect on battery life of the inferior Intel modems they’ve been using for the last few years. I went from an iPhone SE to an Xs and the difference in signal strength was definitely noticeable, and that will affect power consumption too.
I’m not saying this is the same with the Exynos modem but do tend to think that at this point, Qualcomm modems are the better
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Multicore performance lower than expected.

So I just picked up a Galaxy tab S7 plus 128GB with 5g.
Before purchasing I watched and read benchmark reviews but I'm getting considerably less performance than pretty much all benchmarks I have seen.
Single core/gpu/memory benchmarks are exactly where they should be but multicore is around 20% less than expected.
This is a new device, I even did a factory reset and tried again, not much installed and settings are default.
Anyone have any ideas?
I don't think you should believe in benchmarks anymore, it's better to refer to real-world tests and reviews from users.
Actually many Android devices have implemented hidden switches which temporarily disables thermal/performance constraints when it detects a benchmarking app being run (similar to a defeat device) so it scores much higher than it normally should, with a risk that the device might be damaged due to overheat and such.
From my experience, Samsung isn't doing well with the optimizations, making some games lag horribly, and this is getting even worse with the most recent Android 11 update.
I was just a little disappointed that's all, multicore is only slightly higher than my snapdragon 855 phone, nubia red magic 3. Much better single core, gaming and emulation though on the tablet.
It is running great though and I'm enjoying it.
Love the device ..... But it seems to handle Kodi worse than my Nvidia Shield. That's my pretty anecdotal comparison for Android devices
So after a bit of playing around I think I found the main culprit, it was nova launcher prime.
After using the tablet for a day I looked at the battery stats and noticed that it was constantly running and used over 20% of the battery over time.
Uninstalled and benchmarks are much better but not completely there, in geek bench 5 I get 980 single and 2950 multi, was 2600 multi.
I expect 3000-3200 from this device so only a little under now, it is possible that the benchmarks I saw were using android 10 before the update to 11.
Looking at the battery stats One UI is under 2% battery consumption by comparison.
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So after a bit of playing around I think I found the main culprit, it was nova launcher prime.
After using the tablet for a day I looked at the battery stats and noticed that it was constantly running and used over 20% of the battery over time.
Uninstalled and benchmarks are much better but not completely there, in geek bench 5 I get 980 single and 2950 multi, was 2600 multi.
I expect 3000-3200 from this device so only a little under now, it is possible that the benchmarks I saw were using android 10 before the update to 11.
Looking at the battery stats One UI is under 2% battery consumption by comparison.
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Wow .... Would have never guessed. I do in fact always use Nova. Maybe I should delete. Wish I could save (backup) desktops like with Nova
jcrompton said:
Wow .... Would have never guessed. I do in fact always use Nova. Maybe I should delete. Wish I could save (backup) desktops like with Nova
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I was surprised too as I have been using it for years now.
Not saying 100% that it will solve your your issue but it is at least worth considering.
It could be a problem my end or even perhaps how android 11 records battery usage but Samsung UI has 1.8% battery usage vs 20% for nova launcher, I need to use the tablet longer to see if that translates to longer screen on time.
Johnnio said:
I was surprised too as I have been using it for years now.
Not saying 100% that it will solve your your issue but it is at least worth considering.
It could be a problem my end or even perhaps how android 11 records battery usage but Samsung UI has 1.8% battery usage vs 20% for nova launcher, I need to use the tablet longer to see if that translates to longer screen on time.
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Keep me/us updated on what you find. Thanks.
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Keep me/us updated on what you find. Thanks.
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I'll report back in a day or so with a screen on report.
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Keep me/us updated on what you find. Thanks.
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So, a couple of days later I would say that I do seem to be getting more out of the battery, around one hour more with the same mixed usage, YouTube, gaming, reddit is fun app, Firefox, screen brightness 65%, volume full, 120Hz with WiFi and mobile data enabled.
Screen on time from 100% to 10% is roughly 7 hours, not as good as I was hoping for but I am hammering it and I expect that the battery test videos I have seen are using auto brightness.

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