Everything on the N6P fit my bill except I'm still a bit skeptical on battery life. Its got one of the biggest battery capacity right now of 3450 mAh + new marshmallow power saving feature but I'm worried about the power hungry Qualcomm 810. My current G4 is only with 3000 mAh which I get roughly ~3-4hr SOT of gaming/chat/browsing/GPS which only last me 2/3 of the day so I always carry two batteries. (I hate carrying an urine pack). Compare to N6P, G4 also use 808 processor. I'm wondering if N6P on single charge can finally last me a full day. I found none of hands-on got battery remarks, so wondering if anyone got any reference data
im waiting for some reviews too because i dont think this phone will last me one full day.
lets see, hope im wrong.
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The faster charging negates this stuff for me, I'm very rarely not around an outlet.
i don't have any technical sources to help my argument, but the use of 4 low-power cores should, in theory, help the 810 be the "better performer" when it comes to battery management. additionally, marshmallow is designed to suspend/kill processes that are battery dependent when the device has reached some level of sleep.
what i don't understand is the sleep timing. the high-level information i've read indicates that the phone will only go in to a "deep sleep" when it's basically face down, on your table, while you're asleep. this would be utterly useless to me as my phone remains plugged in overnight.
where i suspect the unknown impact to battery life will be lies within the micro-permission controls at the application level. having the ability to deny certain settings may help to extend battery and performance. on the flip side, i also see devs getting smarter about these controls and forcing the application to not even function if you disable a key role.
whatever happens, the 3450 ought to have better battery life than my '13 2200mAh X.
Between the 3450 battery and fast charge, I have no worries at all.
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what i don't understand is the sleep timing. the high-level information i've read indicates that the phone will only go in to a "deep sleep" when it's basically face down, on your table, while you're asleep. this would be utterly useless to me as my phone remains plugged in overnight.
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I don't think it has to be face down. But if it's stationary, it will go into deep sleep and start killing off unnecessary processes. What's annoying about the N6 is that the back isn't flat. I constantly see my n6 waking up to display content on the screen from simply being on the same surface as my keyboard. The N6P being mostly flat, would wobble less when left on a desk.
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im waiting for some reviews too because i dont think this phone will last me one full day.
lets see, hope im wrong.
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If this phone doesn't then which one will?
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If this phone doesn't then which one will?
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g flex 1 with 8~9 SOT
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g flex 1 with 8~9 SOT
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Also Sony Z5 and Z5 compact
I'm running Marshmallow on my N9 now and I have to say the idle battery drain is greatly improved. Granted I've had it on M for less than 48 hours but last night for example I set my tablet down around 1am. At 7:30am this morning it had dropped from 86% to 84%.
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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Could also be brightness level adjustments.
JasonJoel said:
I expect to get about 5 hours SOT.
Even on my note 5, extremely debloated, I only get 4.5 hours. Never understood how people get 8-9 hours. Must be a cell signal reception thing.
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After this N5 which can barely give 3 hrs SOT at best, I'd be more than happy to get even a sure 4.5 hrs [emoji14]
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I'm expecting over 6+ hours of SoT. I get 5 hours and a few minuted with my Note 4. If doze doesn't beat that, I'm returning it and opting for the Z5 instead.
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If that gets 8 hrs then this surely will too. Only difference is 50mah in battery size. The 810 is m more battery efficient and so is the amoled screen.
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Even though I don't have one yet, I'm going out on a limb and say it will last as long as it is charged! :silly:
I would like to point out that with software, you can basically make this a snapdragon 808. The 810 is 2 quad core chips, one with a57(high power) cores and the other with a53(lower power) cores. The a57's are clocked at 2.5ghz by default, it appears huawei has underclocked them to 2.0 (smart move).
The 808 is a very similar setup, but instead of a quad core with a57's, it's a dual core clocked at 1.8ghz. Plus the gpu is worse.
So if you root and get a kernel editor... you can disable 2 a57 cores, underclock the cpu by 200mhz, and underclock the gpu by (I wanna say?) 100mhz,
BAM! Snapdragon 808.
This should pretty much negate any overheating issues, because does the 808 overheat? No. Will this boost battery performance? Yes. Will the phone still be usable? Heck yeah.
I will probably end up doing this before it's over with. It wouldn't be quite as lightning fast as it will be full speed ahead, but I'm coming from a nexus 4 with an s4 pro (The equivalent of an underclocked snapdragon 600). I'm hoping with this configuration, 24 hours with 7 hours sot.
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I would like to point out that with software, you can basically make this a snapdragon 808. The 810 is 2 quad core chips, one with a57(high power) cores and the other with a53(lower power) cores. The a57's are clocked at 2.5ghz by default, it appears huawei has underclocked them to 2.0 (smart move).
The 808 is a very similar setup, but instead of a quad core with a57's, it's a dual core. Plus the gpu is worse.
So if you root and get a kernel editor... you can disable 2 a57 cores, underclock the cpu by 200mhz, and underclock the gpu by (I wanna say?) 100mhz, and bam. Snapdragon 808.
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And bam crappy lg g4 or moto x?
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And bam crappy lg g4 or moto x
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Yeah pretty much. Haha.
In all honesty though, they preform just fine, and battery life is one of the most important features to me. It's all personal preference.
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If that gets 8 hrs then this surely will too. Only difference is 50mah in battery size. The 810 is m more battery efficient and so is the amoled screen.
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ofcourse not 2k screen will sux that battery like a wh*****
and huawei battery tec is not good at all just check their phone with over 4000 battery
i expect to get about 5h sot on 6p
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According to the review from The Verge, Transformer Prime loses out in battery life to iPad 2 and other competing tablets and is only marginally better than iPad 2 when the keyboard dock is attached.
I find this very disappointing, I did not expect Asus to announce their battery life with the device in its lowest setting, while iPad 2 gets eight hours of battery life in 'normal mode'.
5 hours is very, very low. I expected them to at least match iPad 2, especially when they announced that it will survive for 12 hours.
The Verge review is by far the lowest of any of them. Several report 10+ hours when playing video. Anandtech has 8 hours with an apparent mixed load.
It was advertised as 10:04 on Balanced, the default setting. That review uses Normal, where the two power-hungry cores are always active, instead of shutting off when they aren't needed.
Check out the bolded "NOTE:" where they say they're rerunning the battery test. Engadget said it lost to the iPad 2 by only 9 minutes on Balanced.
EDIT: And, according to the comments, this is without discharging/recharging the battery - battery stats aren't calibrated yet.
I think 5 hours is just for the dock and 10:17hours (according to engadget) for the the tablet...a total of whooping 15+ hours, not BAD at all
No, the review on Engadget said that they expected 15+ hours with the dock.
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I think 5 hours is just for the dock and 10:17hours (according to engadget) for the the tablet...a total of whooping 15+ hours, not BAD at all
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No, they cannot test how long battery lasts on the dock alone. The Verge found that it survives 10 hours with the dock.
Balanced mode or not, fact is that iPad 2 is rated being in 'normal' mode for more than eight hours. Prime in normal mode only gets 5 hours. They may advertise their 'balanced' mode, but that is not as good in performance according to the review. In fact, the whole quad-core for tablet is put in doubt, it doesn't make the interface (and browser) faster at all, it only seems to help with games.
I am disappointed.
I'm impressed as this tablet doesn't need to run in normal mode 24/7, meaning 4 cores on all the time. That'll be a waste when balanced mode alone makes it as snappy ,if not more than ipad2. This still has the best battery life of any android tablet I've seen. All sites I've seen that reviewed it are very impressed with battery life. Plus the source you listed isn't as reputable as the main ones churning out the praises on battery life. Instead of just taking that one review and making an assumption, compare all of them. Seems strange that one site out of several giving it negative battery comments. As it's also strange you being disappointed already on an assumption from a sub par tech review site..lmao.
Get an ipad2 then while we blow past ya with the excellent performance and battery life of the prime.
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Get an ipad2 then while we blow past ya with the excellent performance and battery life of the prime.
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Well, you won't. iPad 2 has a better GPU and does not need a 'balanced mode' to have a battery life as long. iPad 2 gets 8 hours of battery life in their 'normal' mode that only lasts five hours on Prime.
I am still going for Prime, because I'm Android developer and my phone is an Android, but I was hoping that Prime would have battery life longer than devices released six months ago without having to tune down the performance that makes it fast.
Now it is a trade-off.
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Well, you won't. iPad 2 has a better GPU and does not need a 'balanced mode' to have a battery life as long. iPad 2 gets 8 hours of battery life in their 'normal' mode that only lasts five hours on Prime.
I am still going for Prime, because I'm Android developer and my phone is an Android, but I was hoping that Prime would have battery life longer than devices released six months ago without having to tune down the performance that makes it fast.
Now it is a trade-off.
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I think you missed the point of what he was trying to say. The site you are quoting your stats from in regards to battery life was the only one that rated it low in that regards. Let's take engadgets review for instance which on "normal" mode lasted for 10:17 which was 9 minutes shorter than their iPad 2 test. So the idea was if placed in "balanced" mode it would get longer life than its already good life.
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Well, you won't. iPad 2 has a better GPU and does not need a 'balanced mode' to have a battery life as long. iPad 2 gets 8 hours of battery life in their 'normal' mode that only lasts five hours on Prime.
I am still going for Prime, because I'm Android developer and my phone is an Android, but I was hoping that Prime would have battery life longer than devices released six months ago without having to tune down the performance that makes it fast.
Now it is a trade-off.
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iPad 2 gpu has more raw power but not the resources to back it up. There are hardly any ipad2 only optimized games out. Most stuff I can still run on my ipad1. I don't think Asus never claimed 12 hours battery life with 4 cores running at once. I never assumed that either. I see what you are saying though. Just compare the different battery reviews. Plus battery wasn't even truly calibrated yet. So it'll get more than 5 hrs. In normal mode. You have to remember to we talking about apple, the king kong of tech..lol they have the money to be lit years ahead of the game. That's why my ipad1 still performs great for me although it's clearly not the highest spec tablet out now.
The go out in get an ipad2 was just a joke. Android is getting closer and closer to closing the gap on quality and performance with iPad. This Asus Transformer prime is what will start the next wave/revolution of high tech tablets and Android in general. I've been thinking also about those different power modes and display modes of which I would use the most. Seems like the balanced mode does well without noticeable drop in performance since it uses amped up dual core. I would think normal mode only needed for intense gaming or very resource hungry apps. We will see once it comes out. Regardless, this will be a great price of machinery at a lower price entry and higher gb storage than ipad2.
Anand review reports 9 hours and Engadget reports 10 hours battery use....both tablet only..
either the unit the Verge got was faulty..or their battery test was significantly different
What is this Prime "normal mode" and "balanced mode"?
I know what they are, but is there some kind of a "switch" to choose between normal and balanced mode?
An option in the setting?
I thought the Tegra 3 will determine this 5ft core functionality (when to use) automatically.
gogol said:
What is this Prime "normal mode" and "balanced mode"?
I know what they are, but is there some kind of a "switch" to choose between normal and balanced mode?
An option in the setting?
I thought the Tegra 3 will determine this 5ft core functionality (when to use) automatically.
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Asus implements 3 different settings for the Quadcore, this is from Anandtech.com:
There are three power profiles ASUS and NVIDIA have defined on the Prime: Normal, Balanced and Power Saver. Normal allows the CPU to run at up to 1.4GHz with only a single core active, and 1.3GHz otherwise. Balanced is the default setting and it drops maximum CPU clock to 1.2GHz and favors lower clock/voltage targets on the curve compared to Normal mode. Power Saver caps CPU frequency at 1GHz with 1 - 2 cores active, 760MHz with 3 cores active and 620MHz with 4 cores active. It's unclear what the impact is on GPU clocks/performance.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/6
Thanks ... So the difference between Normal and Balance is 0.1 - 0.2 ...
Normal = Max 1.4 GHz (1 core) or 1.3 GHz (2 - 4 cores)
Balanced = Max 1.2 GHz (1 - 4 cores)
Not much different, isn't it?
I would choose Balanced and be done with it.
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Asus implements 3 different settings for the Quadcore, this is from Anandtech.com:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/6
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Thanks ... So the difference between Normal and Balance is 0.1 - 0.2 ...
Normal = Max 1.4 GHz (1 core) or 1.3 GHz (2 - 4 cores)
Balanced = Max 1.2 GHz (1 - 4 cores)
Not much different, isn't it?
I would choose Balanced and be done with it.
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The mode also determines how the CPU speed scales to meet loads
ie Balanced would be slower to rise to its max 1.2 GHz than Normal
wow op sounds like an apple fanboy, he just keeps ignoring what everyone has to say about the review being the only one to state a 5 hour energy life.
if its only 5 hours i wouldn't buy it.
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wow op sounds like an apple fanboy, he just keeps ignoring what everyone has to say about the review being the only one to state a 5 hour energy life.
if its only 5 hours i wouldn't buy it.
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I do not own a single Apple device and recently purchased Galaxy Nexus in my line of Android devices. I am also an Android developer. Just because I am disappointed by the battery life on the so-called 'normal' mode does not mean I am an Apple fanboy.
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I do not own a single Apple device and recently purchased Galaxy Nexus in my line of Android devices. I am also an Android developer. Just because I am disappointed by the battery life on the so-called 'normal' mode does not mean I am an Apple fanboy.
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both anand and engadget reviews were running Normal mode too...and the batter life rivels iPad even without dock..and certainly the best among all android tablets.
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I do not own a single Apple device and recently purchased Galaxy Nexus in my line of Android devices. I am also an Android developer. Just because I am disappointed by the battery life on the so-called 'normal' mode does not mean I am an Apple fanboy.
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You still fail to accept what everyone else is saying.
But here's an idea: Just get the prime and send it back to where ever you bought if it doesn't please you...
What about checking the battery life YOURSELF before whining here? Good idea?
Diamondback2010 said:
You still fail to accept what everyone else is saying.
But here's an idea: Just get the prime and send it back to where ever you bought if it doesn't please you...
What about checking the battery life YOURSELF before whining here? Good idea?
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Are we turning into Apple fanboys ourselves!? Seriously, I can be critical about the device, stop acting as if I don't have a right to voice my concerns or share my opinion.
Of course I will check the battery myself once it's released. I simply expected it to perform better in reviews than it has. This is not just because The Verge shows weaker battery life than devices released months ago, but also AnandTech, where the battery apparently lasts less than iPad 2 as well. I keep bringing out iPad 2 not only because it is so widely known, but also because it is the standard other devices are measured against in terms of application speed and UI.
I simply expected it to blow opposition out of the water, but it is only marginally better in some ways. The quad-core also does not enhance Android experience as has been pointed out, it doesn't make the UI and apps slicker unless in really obvious examples, like a game (and iPad 2 is also great in games).
I am also disappointed to hear that some of the integral things, like a browser, is not as fast as one would expect from a quad-core device. The lags in zooming and moving around have been pointed out in reviews.
And it just outright loses against iPad 2 in processing power too.
So it costs as much as an iPad 2, but loses out in both battery life and performance. It is better in some ways, like the camera, but really, it does not blow the opposition out of the water. It will not be the 'best Android tablet' out there for long either.
Have you guys seen the battery stats thread over at the note 2 sub forum?
5-6 hours of screen time is very impressive.
I'm lucky if I get 3 hours.
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3? I'm lucky to get 2.
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Phone does drain pretty quickly with moderate use.
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21productionz said:
Have you guys seen the battery stats thread over at the note 2 sub forum?
5-6 hours of screen time is very impressive.
I'm lucky if I get 3 hours.
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I have a note 10.1 3g and get 12ish hours screen on and 28 hours unplugged per charge. The note 2 has half the screen size of the note 10.1and just under half the battery size but jellybean is more efficient. Given that the other hardware is so similiar, 6 hours seems spot-on giving the scaling- 7+ is possible with the right settings. Can't wait for the Note 2 on ATT- this exynos 4412/Mali 400mp seems to be a kickass combo of performance and power efficiency.
There was also an article on a Russian site from a gnote 2 tester that reported the screen uses around 35% - 40% less power when displaying whites- that HUGE for Super AMOLED since whites have always been its weakness in terms of power consumption. That's getting close to the same power efficiency as Super LCD2.
Come on ATT....hope they sell the phone shortly after the 24th.
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Note 1 life
I'll post a screenshot of the battery usage sometime, but I've been getting incredible life with my Note 1.. The other day I had 30% with 16 hours of use when I plugged it in at night. That's with streaming music for a couple hours,checking email, texts, making calls, and browsing (Normal use). Granted I'm using auto-brightness, dark backgrounds and non-stock cpu settings.. HOWEVER, when the screen is on for long periods (i.e. playing games) i'll drop 10% by the time i'm done.
Soo a Note 2 with a bigger battery and a better cpu should be amazing.
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I'll post a screenshot of the battery usage sometime, but I've been getting incredible life with my Note 1.. The other day I had 30% with 16 hours of use when I plugged it in at night. That's with streaming music for a couple hours,checking email, texts, making calls, and browsing (Normal use). Granted I'm using auto-brightness, dark backgrounds and non-stock cpu settings.. HOWEVER, when the screen is on for long periods (i.e. playing games) i'll drop 10% by the time i'm done.
Soo a Note 2 with a bigger battery and a better cpu should be amazing.
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I'd want to see a non-rooted, stock, out of the box comparison between the two all circumstances being equal. Any other conditions aren't really comparing the battery life against the two devices.
Around 13-16 hours was what I was getting with my note out of the box. But running the ROM I'm on, I can get up to 30 hours like I did two days ago or 26 hours yesterday.
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Honestly how long the battery lasts is not important to me...screen on time is. I use my device pretty heavily day to day, so it will always be charged overnight.
I see an avg of 4hrs screen on with my setup now. The note 2 sees well over 6+...I've seen them even double my screen on time. That's amazing.
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Yeah not sure why we are always talk about stand by time, which will always last a full day if you only use the screen for a hour or so.
I have serious doubts about 5-6 hours when I am getting less than 2 hours screen time if I do pure LTE browsing, 3-4 hours if I do pure WIFI or low CPU tasks like reading books. In real life usage it is always going to be around 3 hours. Keep in mind the tests that websites like Anandtech are 100% optimal tests. In reality you will browse a wide variety of sites with different work loads and have wide variety of signal conditions.
Battery is only 24% larger, but screen is larger and CPU Is quad core (even if it is .32nm), I would be pleasantly surprised if stock vs stock it gets more than 4 hours of battery time in average usage.
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Yeah not sure why we are always talk about stand by time, which will always last a full day if you only use the screen for a hour or so.
I have serious doubts about 5-6 hours when I am getting less than 2 hours screen time if I do pure LTE browsing, 3-4 hours if I do pure WIFI or low CPU tasks like reading books. In real life usage it is always going to be around 3 hours. Keep in mind the tests that websites like Anandtech are 100% optimal tests. In reality you will browse a wide variety of sites with different work loads and have wide variety of signal conditions.
Battery is only 24% larger, but screen is larger and CPU Is quad core (even if it is .32nm), I would be pleasantly surprised if stock vs stock it gets more than 4 hours of battery time in average usage.
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Then you need to go on the GNote2 forums. Battery life is stellar. 24% larger is a huge difference and the processor is more efficient.
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With a different SoC, battery and AMOLED screen, I can believe the Note2 has 6 hours of screen on.
But with the Note1, it clearly can't get much over 4 hours of screen on time even in ideal conditions. Standby is great but the screen eats the battery.
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With a different SoC, battery and AMOLED screen, I can believe the Note2 has 6 hours of screen on.
But with the Note1, it clearly can't get much over 4 hours of screen on time even in ideal conditions. Standby is great but the screen eats the battery.
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Yeah and for a first gen product with an old processor...basically a warmed over sky rocket...4 hours isn't bad. With the latest PA 2.50 CM10, i can see upwards of 4.5hours.
I struggled to see 3 stock.
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Refer to the title , is xperia z ultra is a good phone or should i go for another phone...???
I own it, so it's hard to be objective, so:
The Ultra is an absolutely fantastic device, and i love it. The only thing you should ask yourself is: "Do i want or need a big device?". The size is the only detail that you should be 100% sure of. The screen is fantastic, battery is very good, performance is as you should expect - top notch. Build quality is A+. It's the perfect device for nerds, but this is not the device for most people. It's a niche device that's doing everything right.
Check it out in a store if you have the chance, and if its size doesn't scare you; get it.
Well...LordManhattan said it all. One more thing I can add to this is:
Do you love when people stare at you and perhaps comes up to you and start talking? Because they will! ..this phone is like a big fat magnet :laugh:
Short answer is yes...
Long answer is yes get it now...
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But no flash, 4 hours screen on time
Other hand you can shower and swim in shallow waters with this one.
Other hand 4hours and no exchangable battery.
Other Sony is good to devs
Other hand charges fast
Otherhand its so fast
Its the missing flash and batterylife thats witholding me.
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But no flash, 4 hours screen on time
Other hand you can shower and swim in shallow waters with this one.
Other hand 4hours and no exchangable battery.
Other Sony is good to devs
Other hand charges fast
Otherhand its so fast
Its the missing flash and batterylife thats witholding me.
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Missing the battery life? Have you read the battery thread? I, and everybody else are constantly getting 5+ hours of screen time and 20+ hours uptime on every charge.
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But no flash, 4 hours screen on time
Other hand you can shower and swim in shallow waters with this one.
Other hand 4hours and no exchangable battery.
Other Sony is good to devs
Other hand charges fast
Otherhand its so fast
Its the missing flash and batterylife thats witholding me.
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Yeah like Lord says.
-I get pretty good battery life. I use my device constantly. 10 hours with massive usage.
I did a test and got just on 6 hours with a 6Gb, 1080p movie loop. (brightness at max. all hardware on)
-flash isn't a major factor. Looking back to my Galaxy S4, I only took 6-10 images with my S4 at night, and ended up deleting those images as they were pretty average. So I have yet to see a smartphone take good night images.
I thought the lack of a flash would be a killer for me... but actually I don't miss it.
** On another note... make sure that you don't get 'soap' or 'salt' on your speaker or mic. It will eat away that semi-permeable membrane, allowing water to get in, which will then wreck your device. **
## another note...
Ive been looking into the CPU frequency uptime... and there are some numbers that don't add up.
300
422
960
1190
1728
2150
These are the only Mhz values I have achieved. Now I do think its important to utalise that 2.2ghz processor, however it uses this value the most. 30% of the time I'm using 2150 mhz (obviously unless its asleep) This will be a major factor of battery drain. Now unless someone can create a custom kernel that will address this, we wont see any better battery life improvement in ROM's, and this may be at the expense of the smoothness of this device... tough call!
Could be governator,
I agree, I thought 4h was like the average. 6H actually is interesting. Fast charge also right?
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Could be governator,
I agree, I thought 4h was like the average. 6H actually is interesting. Fast charge also right?
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Hey! Didn't notice it was you! What are you doing here? The battery really surprised me too! It takes around 2 hours to charge it (according to my brain at least).
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Root it, get a cpu manager and change the max freq to anything lower...
I plan to install antutu cpu master on my (yet to be mine) XZU and set a profile so that its max freq when screen off is around 300..
I was able to hit 4days uptime on an old xperia x10 with normal use just by doing that..
Hope it will behave the same on this unit..
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Yeah under 2 hours charges it. (AC)
Takes about 4/5 hours with USB... but we all know why.
Yes I did use setCPU, and betterbattery stats to monitor any wakelocks. No wakelocks, runs well. And setCPU does enable a lower peak frequency. However it also creates a bit of lag, so there's that.
2200 mhz isn't achievable. (without overclock) Would have been cool if Sony went for the 2.3Ghz/ more expensive processor... but 100mhz isn't a big deal i guess
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Could be governator,
I agree, I thought 4h was like the average. 6H actually is interesting. Fast charge also right?
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@baz77 this thing leaves the note dead in the water, no comparison at all. Join us!
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Yeah under 2 hours charges it. (AC)
Takes about 4/5 hours with USB... but we all know why.
Yes I did use setCPU, and betterbattery stats to monitor any wakelocks. No wakelocks, runs well. And setCPU does enable a lower peak frequency. However it also creates a bit of lag, so there's that.
2200 mhz isn't achievable. (without overclock) Would have been cool if Sony went for the 2.3Ghz/ more expensive processor... but 100mhz isn't a big deal i guess
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Mine does just over one hour with my Samsung 2A Galaxy tab 10 charger from ~15-16%
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Mine does just over one hour with my Samsung 2A Galaxy tab 10 charger from ~15-16%
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Just be careful and check if the Samsung charger has the same output as the Sony charger. Most if not all chargers today are 5 Volts, so you should be safe, but just check it just in case so you don't damage your battery.
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Just be careful and check if the Samsung charger has the same output as the Sony charger. Most if not all chargers today are 5 Volts, so you should be safe, but just check it just in case so you don't damage your battery.
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Well..all usb ports output 5 volt. And in EU the law says max 2A so there is nothing to be worried about.
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## another note...
Ive been looking into the CPU frequency uptime... and there are some numbers that don't add up.
300
422
960
1190
1728
2150
These are the only Mhz values I have achieved. Now I do think its important to utalise that 2.2ghz processor, however it uses this value the most. 30% of the time I'm using 2150 mhz (obviously unless its asleep) This will be a major factor of battery drain. Now unless someone can create a custom kernel that will address this, we wont see any better battery life improvement in ROM's, and this may be at the expense of the smoothness of this device... tough call!
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If you use SystemTuner Pro mate check the cpu of each core... Or use perfmon free. You will see that while it may be running at 2150 its probably only using 1 core of the 4 available most of the time. I'm guessing this is more power efficient when running a single core at a higher clock speed than firing up multiple cores.
It also seems to be using some form of touch boost, so just touching the screen will automatically make it boost cpu and gpu frequency. Honestly most of the time mine seems to be siping along on a single core about 300-600mhz
Freaking awesome. I have decided, based on your guys feedback this is the one. Screw the missing light.
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Freaking awesome. I have decided, based on your guys feedback this is the one. Screw the missing light.
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Yes, baby, join the oversized phone crew, you'll love it.
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Here's my take on the phone. Overall I'll give it a 6/10. The screen does not keep up to the hype. It has a very clear yellow tint. I'm in fact using a filter to adjust the white balance.
Next, the in ear speaker is average. Has a hollow sound.
The speaker at the bottom is a absolutely terrible. Almost unusable.
Build quality 10/10
Style 10/10
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Oh yeah one more the ultra family
What kind of battery life are you guys getting? Total and screen on time.
I was thinking of getting this phone for my wife, who could care less about root, but I heard the Snapdragon version has pretty poor battery life compared to exynos. That could be a deal-breaker.
Battery life sucks!!!
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Battery life sucks!!!
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Details?
beezar said:
Details?
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I'm a fairly heavy user of my phone. Using it has a hotspot for work, email, listening to music, watching YouTube, etc etc. I unplug my phone at 6AM when I leave the house. Usually, by 1-2 PM, I am down to around 30-35%. I don't really manage my apps, but I do occasionally go to the recent apps and clear them out.
I owe a note 3 with a 9600mAh battery that lasts up to three days. I bought the S7 Edge thinking it would last at least one day. Well...it doesn't. Best I get is 9 hrs. So by 5:00 pm I have to charge phone. Which led me to my decision to return phone. A phone that doesn't last a day is not ok. Hope the note 6 has better battery life.
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I owe a note 3 with a 9600mAh battery that lasts up to three days. I bought the S7 Edge thinking it would last at least one day. Well...it doesn't. Best I get is 9 hrs. So by 5:00 pm I have to charge phone. Which led me to my decision to return phone. A phone that doesn't last a day is not ok. Hope the note 6 has better battery life.
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Wow, big difference vs. what those with Exynos are saying. I'm seeing up to 2 days and 7 hrs screen on time for the Exynos S7 edge...
I use mine with LTE and GPS always on, I'm getting 14 hours with about 6 hours screen time.
Optimized will last much longer, but I don't like being limited on the features just to save battery if it already lasts a day.
beezar, where can you buy the Exynos model. If you're getting that much battery life, then i must have that phone. I can still return my Edge.
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8 hours with 15% left
JAG50 said:
beezar, where can you buy the Exynos model. If you're getting that much battery life, then i must have that phone. I can still return my Edge.
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I'm saying those with Exynos are reporting incredible battery life. I doubt the Exynos version works for Sprint without some major tweaking, and even then maybe not ever.
It's sad that the Snapdragon battery life is so much worse
Yeah, it's not available. I returned the Edge. Broke my heart, but 8 hrs is totally unacceptable.
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SD820 with Android System/OS as highest battery drain
So, in the main S7 forum, it was discovered that the Snapdragon S7 versions (such as Sprint's) have the highest battery usage coming from Android System/OS, whereas for the Exynos S7 version, it's Screen. This leads directly to the Exynos having MUCH better battery life than the Snapdragon.
Either it's a bug in the software used on Snapdragon S7's (hopefully), or its the inherent inefficiency of the Snapdragon chip. Any which way, some people are tweeting Samsung USA to put pressure on them to look into this issue. We should all put pressure on Samsung to fix this. Hopefully it is a software issue that is easily corrected and which will lead to much better battery life for the Snapdragon S7's.
Battery life since update?
Any improvement in battery life after the Sprint update? What kind of stats (on-battery and screen-on times) are you guys getting after the update?
Some people are reporting much worse battery life. Mine seems to be about the same (very good) as it was before.
I had a severe CPU drain issue once after the update. I had a theme loaded during the update and at one point the phone lagged so badly it took almost a minute just to swap between apps. (I don't keep more than 5 apps running at a time - usually Twitch, CoC, and Facebook). Never had issues before the update, but it's only happened once so far.
Battery life seems unchanged. I don't use haptic feedback ever (not a fan) and keep screen brightness limited to what I feel is necessary (usually between 25-30% brightness) for the day.
I keep GPS turned off and am on LTE for 8-10 hours a day and listen to Twitch (audio only majority) for 6-8 of those hours.
In the end, my S7 lasts from 6am to 3pm on a single charge with Twitch streaming on LTE with about 20% screen on during that time. While at home on WiFi, I can easily get 2 days out of a single charge with casual use (personal choice).
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Hmm, some people are reporting remarkably better battery life with the latest T-mobile update. Hopefully Sprint will get the same update soon
Rooted mine and battery life is crappy, though it wasn't great before either I think it's about the same or probably even a little bit worse on stock but maybe it's just me. I get like a little over 2 hours screen on time with 9% left on mostly wifi so I know for a fact that something is wrong. Standby time is also awful.
Android kernel and os draining more battery than my screen lol definitely should not be happening.
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I had the s8+ exynos and it was great. I am torn after reading reviews, the 845 looks like the winner but it is locked down here in the US. Not sure there will be much development for the exynos as it is still early. The s9+ hardware is awesome but I am torn with the SOC, so those with the exynos what is your experience with battery life and performance?
Any thoughts appreciated...
I believe they are. I am currently testing both the Exynos and Snapdragon. I actually get better battery life on the Exynos in daily normal use. I beleive most of thsoe bad reviews of the exynos are based off of benchmarks and synthetic testing which dont always correlate to the real world. Im personally seeing much much better battery life on the exynos. However I am seeing other weird quirks about the exynos that bother me such as poor reception on tmobile and slower speeds side by side with the snapdragon version. Im also seeing call drops on the exynos that arent on the snapdragon and now I see the exynos doesnt record 4k 60 unless your in auto exposure which is not the case on the snapdragon. Weird quirky things.
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I believe they are. I am currently testing both the Exynos and Snapdragon. I actually get better battery life on the Exynos in daily normal use. I beleive most of thsoe bad reviews of the exynos are based off of benchmarks and synthetic testing which dont always correlate to the real world. Im personally seeing much much better battery life on the exynos. However I am seeing other weird quirks about the exynos that bother me such as poor reception on tmobile and slower speeds side by side with the snapdragon version. Im also seeing call drops on the exynos that arent on the snapdragon and now I see the exynos doesnt record 4k 60 unless your in auto exposure which is not the case on the snapdragon. Weird quirky things.
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I am on tmo, so that is concerning- it seems to have all the bands except 71 so I wonder what the difference is...
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I am on tmo, so that is concerning- it seems to have all the bands except 71 so I wonder what the difference is...
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I dont even have band 71 in my area yet. Should not be an issue but something is holding this phone back.
Anyone else?
Well, if you flash a custom kernel on the exynos it is miles faster than the snapdragon while still having 6 hours SOT =)
5 hours SOT 20% left after having all these benchmarks ran atleast twice.
Like you see on top, wifi, but, 4g, entertainment mode, and, GPS, etc is all on all day and screen always on high brightness.
Those scores are what you get when you remove the nerf that samsung implemented for the exynos not to crush the snapdragon. Exynos runs 2.7ghz 1 core, 2.3ghz 2 cores, 1.7ghz 4 cores. Custom kernel like what I installed and I am running 2.9ghz on all cores. Like you see on the antutu score, max temperature was 41°C
No idea how it is for carriers on the US, but exynos is the miles better chip.
I have not rooted or flashed anything custom. Mine is still 100% stock and I can say the Exynos version has much much better battery life. Now that I have had 2 full days with the exynos I know for sure its much better in battery life than my snapdragon was. In screen off time this thing uses little to no power. My snapdragon seems to just kill 6-8% per hour min with screen off while my exynos is about 1% an hour with screen off. Both running same apps. Yesterday I barely even touched the snapdragon and it was just sitting there in hibernation mode while I used the exynos all day with videos and texts and calls and it still had the same battery percentage at the end of day.
Thanks guys, the only thing holding me back at this point is the dropped calls/signal issues reported in this thread, but I am probably still in...
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I have not rooted or flashed anything custom. Mine is still 100% stock and I can say the Exynos version has much much better battery life. Now that I have had 2 full days with the exynos I know for sure its much better in battery life than my snapdragon was. In screen off time this thing uses little to no power. My snapdragon seems to just kill 6-8% per hour min with screen off while my exynos is about 1% an hour with screen off. Both running same apps. Yesterday I barely even touched the snapdragon and it was just sitting there in hibernation mode while I used the exynos all day with videos and texts and calls and it still had the same battery percentage at the end of day.
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Very interesting information, I hope to test my S9+ exynos this week, we will see
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Thanks guys, the only thing holding me back at this point is the dropped calls/signal issues reported in this thread, but I am probably still in...
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I really really really hope samsung fixes this. My only solution now is to call people using google hangouts or duo or viber. Otherwise calls are very very spotty and pretty much guaranteed to skip out or completely drop all together. Trust me i am trying to run my own business and this is extremely important for me. With the number of people reporting this issue I hope to god samsung fixes this.
I ran UX Benchmark app on stock firmware SM-G9650 Snapdragon. Was expecting a bit lower score than Exynos variants but this wasn't the case. Topped the chart versus all phones. SOT is typically 5 - 6 hours. In real life usage I'm not sure there's a huge difference in overall performance between the chipsets.
Not sure about that benchmark app, results don't make much sense.
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I ran UX Benchmark app on stock firmware SM-G9650 Snapdragon. Was expecting a bit lower score than Exynos variants but this wasn't the case. Topped the chart versus all phones. SOT is typically 5 - 6 hours. In real life usage I'm not sure there's a huge difference in overall performance between the chipsets.
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I love my Exynos. No issues here other than Cricket being slow, but that is the case with all my devices on their network.
I can easily get through an entire day on it without charging. I just choose not to.
Performance wise, it is by far the fastest phone I have ever used.
My exynos is ****. 4 hours sot. 18-24 hours total.
6 hours SOT with everything that matters on, wifi/4g. Lasts the day and the phone feels very fluid and fast. Expect battery life and performance to only get better as developers fix the issues in the kernel.
Let me contradict a few here. I had exynos as I'm in the uk, it was ok. Tried snapdragon version, better gpu and so far better battery too I'm finding.
I have two power saving features on, -10% lowered screen brightness, and restricted background data access sometimes, at work
Exynos gave me 7 to 8 hours sot, for me that was better than expected
Snapdragon is so far about 10 hours sot on this charge cycle, but more often about 8 to 9 hours sot! 8 with around 10 to 15% battery left
I really don't know how the snapdragon is doing it but I'm surprised! Especially today the battery just isn't draining, I have no idea what I'm doing differently. Dare I say snapdragon is slightly snappier?
Location high accuracy on all the time
All I know is that the battery on my S9+ Exynos is WAY better than the Pixel 2 XL that it just replaced.
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All I know is that the battery on my S9+ Exynos is WAY better than the Pixel 2 XL that it just replaced.
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All I know is right now this thing is doing better than my mate 10 pro! Omg! Something must be wrong with this phone. I'm afraid to restart it in case this things stops sipping battery the way it is
9hrs sot with 21% battery left and I'm not sure exactly why or how tbh. Snapdragon
hi , i had S9 Plus EXY version for two weeks after i used LG V30 Plus but yesterday i returned back to my LG V30 Plus for the following reasons that you might look into
1- i am facing call dropping which was unusual and during some calls the sound disappear for 10 sec and i feel that the call is going to be terminated but it returned back again this was happening in the same palces i used my old phones in this means that the problem from S9+ and today i tried in the LG and all calls were clear and i didn't face any problems
2- i noticed that the switching between 4g and 3g which should go automatically is crazy since at the same moment i can see the phone changing from 4g to 3g rapidly and i felt that the internet connection is slow and taking long time than ever
3- Battery life was disappointed hardly complete a day even after i reduced the screen resolution and turned off AOD I am getting 18 hours battery life with only 5HOURS SOT
Pros
1- sound quality in earphones / Bluetooth also the stereo speakers
2- camera is superior
3- screen is amazing
Im Using the exynos model and there is a little overheating issue in battery..i used a xperia xz pro and the battery temp was always around 30 degrees..even though the processor was far more higher..in this I'm getting around 35 degrees for battery as well as the processor..feels warm sometimes..anyone facing same issues? Ambient temperature is 28 degrees