http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2011/111209xa.html?mtxs=rss-corp-news
If a webos port was made for your Galaxy SII, would you at try it out? Whats everyone's thoughts?
I don't know about others but I, for me will be excited and undoubtedly I'll want this on my GSII, it will be a pleasure.
Thanks for the link anyway.
Sure
Would be cool to try WebOS at SGS II =)
I think it doesn't have much chance against Android.
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I don't know about others but I, for me will be excited and undoubtedly I'll want this on my GSII, it will be a pleasure.
Thanks for the link anyway.
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Yeah definitely the same here! I'd love to be able to dualboot both OS' on my phone. Plus all the power the GSII is packing compared to that of the touchpad. It would be insane!
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I think it doesn't have much chance against Android.
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I see it not so much as a competition, but more as something that would compliment my phone. Primarily android, with webos on the side.
But I agree that it would be cool to try it nonetheless.
I would probably flash it out of curiosity but ultimately ill no doubt always stick with Android unless they do the unthinkable and become "closed" like IOS but i cant see that ever happening.
of course I want it in my phone. Also, could the devs port the code to android to make it faster/better/whatever?
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Didn't HTC or Samsung (can't remember who) get full licensing permissions on WebOS? lol well that's useful now.
If it was me, yes I definitely would! Like with the HD2, I tried WM 6.5, WP7 and Android, but ultimately had to go back to Android.
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What we have here is HP finding a cheap way to support it's WebOS devices.
I'd sure as hell try it out. The UI is fantastic and would probably fly on the SGS2. Probably would have to steal some drivers from Android but since they're both linux-based it shouldn't be too difficult.
Although I'm guessing most of the devs are involved with ics at the moment...
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Didn't HTC or Samsung (can't remember who) get full licensing permissions on WebOS? lol well that's useful now.
If it was me, yes I definitely would! Like with the HD2, I tried WM 6.5, WP7 and Android, but ultimately had to go back to Android.
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Hey Skellyyy, just out of curiosity, what made you stick with Android over WP7? I have not had any WP7 device yet, but it looks attracting.
I would LOVE this...i got a Pre on day one and loved WebOS...i would have stayed, but lack of solid hardware and an extremely small dev crew to get things going. if we could even get a WebOS launcher on top of android, that would be amazing!
i truly hope they get this going on our SGSII's.....i'd pay good cash for this!!
EDit - Any dev who decides to take this on, consider my SGSII a test device for you....
WebOS all the way!
For those who haven't tried it, here are some hints:
-butter smooth (when fresh)
-TRUE and exceptional multitasking
-great UI
The thing with HP is that they bought Palm for a hefty sum but never had any idea how to make it better. For now, they only got two WebOS devices that can not be called ancient: Pre3 and Veer- both fabulous phones ( Veer is quire popular among ladies, even @ Google HQ ). This is the bottle neck for their market. If they will get it running on other devices it will surely change the game more than WP7 did.
HP will nail it if they choose to go open source and get some devs involved, though this OS is maybe the best so far, it's still full of bugs and flaws, looks like a beta release.
... Another one. Is open sourcing now the dumping ground for dead projects?
came back from a party some minutes ago and read that webos is now open sorce on pocketnow.
it would really be great to be able to dualboot webos and android on the s2. hope somebody will do this and bring us this great os.
htc9420 said:
WebOS all the way!
For those who haven't tried it, here are some hints:
-butter smooth (when fresh)
-TRUE and exceptional multitasking
-great UI
The thing with HP is that they bought Palm for a hefty sum but never had any idea how to make it better. For now, they only got two WebOS devices that can not be called ancient: Pre3 and Veer- both fabulous phones ( Veer is quire popular among ladies, even @ Google HQ ). This is the bottle neck for their market. If they will get it running on other devices it will surely change the game more than WP7 did.
HP will nail it if they choose to go open source and get some devs involved, though this OS is maybe the best so far, it's still full of bugs and flaws, looks like a beta release.
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i have a touchpad,laggy as hell,specially reading a pdf
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Hey Skellyyy, just out of curiosity, what made you stick with Android over WP7? I have not had any WP7 device yet, but it looks attracting.
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Hi, I don't really know tbh, android just felt like my home that I couldn't leave. Although I really want a WP7 device to give it another try. I feel like it could be good for me, everything I basically need and it just works. Without any distractions. Social integration is a major plus now too, I never really went on social networks when I tried it out, might get another cheap HD2 and have fun with it.
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anybody recommend switching to android?
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anybody recommend switching to android?
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Check the activity of the Android forums compared to this one. That should answer your question. Currently Android requires some parts of WinMo to work, but I use a very small version of WinMo, ChuckyDroid ROM.
Android development is thriving. WinMo 6.x development is dead. In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
Well, I guess it depends on the compatibility issues of the software you use. In my case, right now, I cannot leave WinMo as of yet because of that.
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In many ways, Android runs better than WinMo on the HD2.
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No way for me
I've had the Nexus One for the last 5 months and Android running on the Hd2 is like a car without oil in the engine: VERY ROUGH
For someone who hasn't had a Nexus One yet then yeah the Android port will be fine for you and you wont know the difference but for me I can DEF feel it and it leaves a bitter taste in my mouth.
Lag + not everything works = I'd rather have WinMo 6.5 for the rest of the Hd2's life unless the can start making the Android versions smoother/work better.
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Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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You need to flash radio so you CAN brick
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
jonny68 said:
Yes BUT not yet from reading through the amount of postyers having issues with using Android on the HD2 at present is far too much,i would wait until all the problems have been rectified and everything is 100% before i go with Android.
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i've got the same doubts. well and of course, i'm originally from austria so i'm wondering if there are any language packs or something like that available for the android roms. of course, i can deal with the english roms, but if i have the posibility i'd take the german rom or whatever.
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winmo? people still use that junker? this thing shoulda ran android from the start...
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
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Absolutely, go for it. There is no way you can harm/brick your phone because android is only running off the microSD. Download a few different builds and try them out. The worst that can happen is ending back up in windows mobile. I would reccoment trying shubCraft.
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actually the worst thing you can do is kill your sd card, requiring purchase of new card.
That can get expensive after awhile.
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it does. It's called an evo.
If y'all hate Winmo so bad, why even get the phone?!?
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Your a wise man there nrfitchett4
I sold my Nexus One in order to buy an Hd2 for cheap off of craigslist knowing that I might never even run Android on it. I wanted to give Windows Mobile a chance and learn the basics before trying to port Android. Turns out it was the best decision I could have made since I actually prefer Windows Mobile more than Android!
People complaining about a phone they have already purchased need to get a life and better purchasing skills
I don't understand all this hype about Android. From what I have seen it's all over-hyped on the HD2. I went to the Android section expecting to be blown away by the amazing detail, features and screens of Android. Instead i've been underwhelmed and put off of Android. The Interface looks more like a step backwards about 10 years.
Where is the holy grail of Android for HD2 that is going to make us all want to switch to Android from WinMo?
Ok - I get it that for geeks Android might be the way forward as it's all open source and available to tinker with - but for people who just want a phone that works - WinMo 6.5x runs rings around Android. God help us when WinMo 7 arrives on the scene.
I understand that this may start a flaming session - but my mind is open to be converted - point the way.....show me the eye candy...
what making android not work 100% on htc hd2?
Hello Guys. I was hoping on buying this phone tomorrow. I love the look, the screen, processor etc etc but i see a little lack of amount of Devs like i thought i would see. Coming from being a G1 user for about 2 years now and being in the dream forum you guys probably know where im going with this (constant roms, constant upgrades, hacks for absolutely no reason making having the same ROM for too long annoying) was wondering was this phone a worthy buy? or are things just at a slow pace for now? would hate to buy this phone just for it to get over shadowed by the G2 being available soon and then having absolutely NO dev support anymore now seeing as Cyanogen himself is getting the G2 and there hasn't been a cm6 let alone anything from him released for this device.
Theres a 2 page thread with what you're looking for right below this thread.
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Theres a 2 page thread with what you're looking for right below this thread.
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While i'm completely grateful for your reply, i must say i've already read that thread and it actually generated my question of if its a worthy buy strictly upon dev work reasons. but thanks very much.
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While i'm completely grateful for your reply, i must say i've already read that thread and it actually generated my question of if its a worthy buy strictly upon dev work reasons. but thanks very much.
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So you thought it would of been a better idea to post a NEW thread about it than replying to the thread that is pretty much relating to the same thing you're looking for as the OP in the other thread?
The vibrant beats the G2 in every other way in terms of hardware. The only reason why its going slow at the moment is because you aren't aware of what has been going on. CM6 was off to a slow start because WesGarner was working on the myTouch Slide before working on the vibrant but now his priority is to get CM6 up and running. CyanogenMod is already promised for the Galaxy S in 6.1, another reason why it is off to a slow start is because Samsung and HTC do their systems differently so it takes time to learn the environment and all that (I'm not a developer so.. I'm 100% correct about this).
It is still a top-notch phone based on benchmarks, yeah there are other factors based to it but the Hummingbird processor is the fastest processor on the market for Android phones. On top of that with Super AMOLED, it pretty much makes it so that when you look at your G1 it looks tiny. 4" is definitely the perfect size.
I'm sure once CM6 is up and running on Vibrant, things will start to roll up. I believe benbuchacher (known for his famous works: SuperD, SuperE, and incoming SuperF) has a Vibrant, Eugene_373 and justanothercrowd are some of the great developers that have been hard at work for giving us things to play with until CM6 is ready. There are many other developers out there that I haven't listed (sorry^)
The Galaxy S is also a international phone (as well as the four major U.S. carriers, people who want the keyboard on the Galaxy S have a option for the Epic 4G), a lot of the files are very similar and tweaks/hacks would work fine. So.. yeah in my opinion its a worthy buy, you have a 14-day (or 30) to return if it doesn't satisfy you.
You can follow their progress on Twitter & WesGarner's GitHub ( http://github.com/wesgarner )
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So you thought it would of been a better idea to post a NEW thread about it than replying to the thread that is pretty much relating to the same thing you're looking for as the OP in the other thread?
The vibrant beats the G2 in every other way in terms of hardware. The only has been going on. CM6 was off to a slow start because WesGarner was working on the myTouch Slide before working on the vibrant but now his priority is to get CM6 up and running. CyanogenMod is already promised for the Galaxy S in 6.1, another reason why it is off to a slow start is because Samsung and HTC do their systems differently so it takes time to learn the environment and all that (I'm not a developer so.. I'm 100% correct about this).
It is still a top-notch phone based on benchmarks, yeah there are other factors based to it but the Hummingbird processor is the fastest processor on the market for Android phones. On top of that with Super AMOLED, it pretty much makes it so that when you look at your G1 it looks tiny. 4" is definitely the perfect size.
I'm sure once CM6 is up and running on Vibrant, things will start to roll up. I believe benbuchacher (known for his famous works: SuperD, SuperE, and incoming SuperF) has a Vibrant, Eugene_373 and justanothercrowd are some of the great developers that have been hard at work for giving us things to play with until CM6 is ready. There are many other developers out there that I haven't listed (sorry^)
The Galaxy S is also a international phone (as well as the four major U.S. carriers, people who want the keyboard on the Galaxy S have a option for the Epic 4G), a lot of the files are very similar and tweaks/hacks would work fine. So.. yeah in my opinion its a worthy buy, you have a 14-day (or 30) to return if it doesn't satisfy you.
You can follow their progress on Twitter & WesGarner's GitHub ( http://github.com/wesgarner )
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That other thread was comparing a g2 to a vibrant. asking which was a better buy. I know every Dev you posted along with the basics of the vibrant etc Etc. Not a noob here in the slightest way Was just wondering from a person who has the phone thats all. The bold was exactly what i was wondering and was looking for so thank you for answering that question. Was planning on trying to port some the millions of ROMS from the dream over to this Phone but now i know why i don't see most of them already here. Gonna Do some research Now. Thanks alot fellow. And Yes I did think it was going to be a Better idea since you answered It quickly, efficiently, and there was no reason to read comments on things i wasn't really concerned about to find my answer. See how it worked out? Thanks again.
It's starting to leap ahead slowly. They found out how to flash kernels thru recovery just a couple of days ago so there isn't much more need for using a program called Odin to flash kernels. Odin can be pretty unreliable sometimes with the random crashing, I have yet to experience this but some people have. Definitely makes the job easier.
I was a huge fan of the "Super" ROMs, I definitely know what you mean by ROMs.. there would be a new one every other day and it would be fun to flash them and try it out then nandroid back. I'm certainly hoping for the same thing here, I'll admit that it is a little bit difficult when all the phones are seperated with their own forum but there is a proposal going around about merging all of them together (I9000,Fascinate,Epic 4G,Vibrant,Captivate)
Sadly i think the Vibrant is a great phone but wont have quite the dev as the G2 will. The G2 will probably be picked up by the likes of Cyanogen himself so it will depend on if a dev like him wants to keep it going or not. Had Cyanogen picked up the Vibrant and ran with it i think it might have had more possibilities. However i picked up the phone i had the G1 for 1.5 years (was a T-mobile Employee and got it 2 weeks before launch) and then switched to unlocked iphone for .5 years now im on the vibrant and im loving it. The android community has grown since i have been gone however i think since its samsung and not HTC that is what the problem is.
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Sadly i think the Vibrant is a great phone but wont have quite the dev as the G2 will. The G2 will probably be picked up by the likes of Cyanogen himself so it will depend on if a dev like him wants to keep it going or not. Had Cyanogen picked up the Vibrant and ran with it i think it might have had more possibilities. However i picked up the phone i had the G1 for 1.5 years (was a T-mobile Employee and got it 2 weeks before launch) and then switched to unlocked iphone for .5 years now im on the vibrant and im loving it. The android community has grown since i have been gone however i think since its samsung and not HTC that is what the problem is.
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The main reason why Cyanogen picked up the G2 is because he doesn't condone manufacturers to put their custom interfaces over it. Cyanogen prefers stock Android. The OP said himself that he is a porter so he is a developer, I don't think it'd be a wise idea for everybody to just follow Cyanogen because there are definitely the people using the Galaxy S phones who would enjoy the same amount of modding.
There is larger room to make a name for yourself simply because there are less developers but there is definitely a large community for the phone that wants modding support.
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4" is definitely the perfect size.
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Thats what she said
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Thats what she said
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Awesome.
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Get the vibrant. Root it. Run one clig lag fix. U r good to go for now. U will be happy. All this can be done easily. Thanks to Ryanza 's smart work.
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Great phone, great experience and everything, does get kinda boring after sometime because i feel the phone is great the way it is, so until froyo theres nothing to really get excited about.
anyway great phone, and if i had to do it over again, i will still get this phone.a
I love it. Ive used just about every flavor of manufacturer-skinned android, along with vanilla (2.1 on G1). I can say after using other skins, TouchWiz 3.0 is pretty great. Vanilla android always wins, but this skin didn't feel as useless as some others.
I am coming from a mytouch slide, and a G1 before that, so the thought of a phone with no keyboard worried me. However the screen is the perfect size, and I'm pretty fast with swype. Not to mention, I had this phone rooted within 10 minutes of getting it home, whereas I never got the Slide rooted.
CM6 is coming to the Vibrant. Development is going to pick up. The Galaxy S series is on all four major carriers here in the US. I know we're going to see some interesting things happen.
I've had a lot of fun with this phone in the short time I've owned it, so I can definitely recommend it. And about the G2, it doesn't exactly seem light-years ahead, and if you wait for it...like magic the next superphone will be leaked and your attention will be on that.
So I would say get the Vibrant, you'll have a lot of fun with it.
...oh and I typed this out on it.
The only reason I might not get this phone is because of A. Its Sammie so who knows how long the official 2.2 comes B. Its not HTC so Devs will have to get accustomed to the phone C. It has Touchwiz. I could deal with Sense for a bit in waiting of CM6 or just stock 2.2 Android but playing with the phone in the Tmo store just turned me off. Looks like I will have to get a N1 or maybe wait for the G2
To me the entire CM6 is so over hyped its insane. The devs working on things are doing great. The phone is awesome as it is and anything beyond what it is now is pure gravy.
If/when CM6 hits I'm sure it will be awesome, but if you are holding out on the idea of that then well your going to miss out on a great phone.
The "devs" in the Dream section mostly produce hacked up beta garbage that never reaches a final release. Thanks but no thanks, I don't like flashing my phone 23452434 times to find something that works properly in ALL aspects. Then when you try to tell the devs what's broken they pitch a ***** fit and start complaining because they released it with known bugs. SICK of it.
There are a few that are worth the time in the G1/myTouch section but most of it is garbage and I had both devices.
Difficulty
The phone is worthy in every aspect of the word. This is an HTC forum. Luckily for us we have a very popular phone. I doubt we will go the way of other non HTC (AND SOME HTC) phones.
I am enjoying this phone, bloat and all, especially after the lag fix. I do enjoy an elegant vanilla though. But in its current condition would enjoy this Vibrant for at least a year.
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Sometimes you can't help it, you know
ilovemytilt1 said:
The only reason I might not get this phone is because of A. Its Sammie so who knows how long the official 2.2 comes B. Its not HTC so Devs will have to get accustomed to the phone C. It has Touchwiz. I could deal with Sense for a bit in waiting of CM6 or just stock 2.2 Android but playing with the phone in the Tmo store just turned me off. Looks like I will have to get a N1 or maybe wait for the G2
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Okay first off. Touchwiz is pretty good now. Touchwiz implemented pretty cool features and it isn't as bad. Dont criticize it if you haven't ever tried it. Samsung has already said froyo will be released sometime in September. Stop degrading a phone that you've never used.
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Since the vibrant is fairly new and with the Froyo rumored to be out in Sept., I just don't see why any dev will want to spend all their time making a rom for a phone that might be getting the 2.2 upgrade in a month. I'm sure once the Froyo update is out, the devs will start their custom roms... For those that doesn't like the stock home launcher setup, just goto the market and get Launcher pro or ADWLauncher. Both will replace the iphone look alike. As far as lag fix and GPS fix, i didn't use any and my phone seems to be working like it should without any lag or gps problems.
I am not too into the whole ROM thing, if anyone could PM me the info in what it is for and why it is always great, it would be greatly appreciated. Anyways, back on topic, I like the Vibrant the screen is responsive and the huge screen makes typing a breeze(on both landscape and portrait mode). The processor is the best you can get right now on the Android OS and the screen is just amazing. The bad... Touch Wizard 3.0 is really good but coming from other Android devices I miss the App drawer so much. It does take getting used to, and if it is really that bad for you, then go get an open home theme. Or maybe stock Froyo installed(is that a ROM?) That would be nice, because the Vibrant would be perfect if it just had a less skinned theme. Great phone overall.
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Hey, you probably heard that WP7 has been ported on HD2.
Well, that's a great start. But I think we can try it out... Even it would be a lot buggy or slow or anything else... I think if we contact DFT (Dark Forces Team) they might help us out... I know it's near impossible (because of our ARMv6 CPU. == WP7 needs an ARMv7 CPU which HD2 has it.) But it's not impossible completely... Let's do something about it... What do you say devs?
I'm just waiting for the hackers team is to discuss about this. Because I am only new person in the world PHONE.
im will suporter to u all
Come on ,it will be great to run wp7 on topaz
Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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Oh golly, because you demanding it will sure make them motivated.
When you say "Lets do something" you must mean, "I cant do it, can you do it for me?". Why not learn reverse engineering, and then doing something yourself? Because realy, if you want dev's to do all the work for you, you obviously should stick to the Windows-GUI manipulation level, doubt being spoof-feed will help you.
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a port for the Topaz, and I'd probly try it out... But I'm looking forward to the cracking of WP7 on WP7 phones so that I can upgrade to a new phone and not be stuck with that horrible start screen
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First of all, I don't see any reason to answer you directly. In second, I'm a developer but can't do it alone. I'm asking for help. So just keep learning things. You may someday understand what I was asking for.
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I know you have some developing skills, although I dont know if it goes beyond changing the registry and gui-manipulation, but the system-level developers are unlikely to port the Windows 7 to the Topaz, mainly because its a old device now, outdated and slow.
(And I know that you've got some knowledge because I used eclipse for few days, good ROM)
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I appreciate that... But as I mentioned above, it's near impossible... Not completely. Your'e right... Topaz has ARMv6 processor... WP7 requires ARMv7. But i'm talking about experiencing it on Topaz... By the way, I agree with oldness of Topaz... I'm gonna buy a Desire HD
It's wishfull thinking and never going to happen. The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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The best us topaz owners can expect to get for our outdated phones is a 100% working Android.
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And wouldn't that be great!!!!
That ain't true I find that the ui from wp7 is lite and simple. This can easily be ported to our devices with a little magic. But The part of windows live games or xbox live is the part that our devices cant handle. Our devices aren't old they where made cheap by htc and att to cover some sectors of the market. But our devices could have been easily been made with the same stuff as hd2, as few months passed since each launched.
The ui is simpler than ours and faster I think it could be done......just that I need to finish studying by then to make this. And I don't think of waiting is another great idea. As we are shadowed by what could have been if we had a twin processor to hd2's. But, we bought this and I find it great!
And please respect each other!!!!!
I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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I think it's NOT possible because of hardware requirements.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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our device was made of tinking on this.. As I read before it was tought to be ported in form of an upgrade. But it was left in the clouds. And our device have the custom buttons on a new device like android and wp7. Ram can't be a prob. If the UI was made for speed and simplicity. Just the xbox live games won't run properly.
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
wp7 requires ARMv7 instruction set on cpu. but topaz is just ARMv6 i think. that's why I think it's not possible
Moreover, why would you want WP7? The only thing it has going for it is that it runs smoothly and doesn't crash, which it would NOT do if someone did manage to port it. Better off building skins over 6.5.x; that way you could at least retain functionality...
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AH man! I've been focussing on another site. WWW.htc-pure.com, which I am a moderator. And for years I've been here quietly. but I think I will try to move here to help. Lets see what I can do.
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I am waiting, good luck man
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I agree... But no one is taking TD2 seriously. Because there are at least 2 similar devices (TP2, THD) no one is focusing on TD2. That's why we don't see any salient improvement on Android development. HD2 devs focused on it and made the progress finished soon. I think the best way we can do right now, is contacting Cotulla from DFT. He could help me and other devs. I just don't know how to contact him!
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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actually, hd2 had devices that only need to be (partially) reverse-engeneered. hell some libs etc worked directly from Desire, cotulla took half of its radio SW to get rmnet data working and ...HD7...well it's hd2 without hardware buttons!...
magldr is child's play and development was over in 2 months but they kept it testing for that time to see how phone will respond to tottaly diffrent os.
now find something like that for Touch(something).
htc was lazy with hardware at the time and hackers took advantage of that.
but these devices nature is so much different that every piece of system would have to be homebrew-and devs struggle with android for a long time with sources and inch from their nose. imagine rewriting even basic parts of kernel to support armv6 without any proper source. i truly can't imagine wp7 being done...
even with few developers, reasonable timeframe would be over year or two!
i own 3 htc phones and one td2 just for fun of it, to see evolution of htc's over the years.. go buy yourself hd2 if you really wish to hack the hell out of your phone. they go really cheap - around $200 - and save yourself time
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I agree. I'm moving to iPhone 4 or Sensation or EVO 3D...
Hey guys, So I made an attempt to port 3.2 sdk to nook and i had a minor success with it.
Basically i have used Divine-Madcat's modifications from 3.0 sdk with 3.2 sdk image from Google, and after a very few changes it worked!!
But there are a lot of problems right now, for ex-
It takes a lot of time to load up and screen remains blank unless i use power button,
Display just goes blank randomly but comes back on using power button,
Android seems to take touch input as a mouse input and displays a round pointer,
laggy as hell(sometimes, randomly it goes smooth), probably displays one frame per second, and usually hangs up after a minute of use.
Wifi-not working
sd-card- not working
This is in no way usable right now, but i am posting the zip file anyway, hoping that someone will come out of no-where and help me fix this(thinking of this as an opportunity to learn)
So try it if you are feeling adventurous and want to fix things up.
Format data before u proceed.
DO NOT FORMAT BOOT.
MEDIAFIRE LINK
Disclaimer: I am not responsible for what happens to your nook, if you decide to flash this zip(though it likely won't do any damage).
reserved for future
Good luck to you, kind sir.
Looks good, but not even close to daily driver. Screenies?
None of the SDKs, including my own, are daily drivers. Until we can compile code, they will never be daily drivers.
Well, your SDK 11 port is pretty functional, just a little graphics lag.
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Well, your SDK 11 port is pretty functional, just a little graphics lag.
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Yes, it booted, but by no means was it a driver. It wasn't just graphics lag, it was overall lag. hardware acceleration was a no go... Look, it was fun to play with, but never a driver.
Unless deeper blue comes in with something (not saying he can), these will always be experiments; there is just too much code that needs to be compiled for our device for it to really work...
If you say so.
ikingblack said:
If you say so.
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Given our respective success in porting things, i think i will value my opinion just a bit more, sorry.
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Yes, it booted, but by no means was it a driver. It wasn't just graphics lag, it was overall lag. hardware acceleration was a no go... Look, it was fun to play with, but never a driver.
Unless deeper blue comes in with something (not saying he can), these will always be experiments; there is just too much code that needs to be compiled for our device for it to really work...
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Well you are right, this pretty much is an experiment and its a good way for me to learn things, but u never know maybe someone will get their hands on that latest driver, or maybe someone will figure a workaround, those guys at notion ink Adam have a very good honeycomb port which people use as a daily driver.
Progress is progress. At the same time, I'm starting to feel like we're hitting a brick wall without any type of hardware acceleration. The SDK ports themselves usually run next to fine functionality wise, but the lack of hardware acceleration means that virtually all of honeycomb is unstable without massive tweaking.
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Well you are right, this pretty much is an experiment and its a good way for me to learn things, but u never know maybe someone will get their hands on that latest driver, or maybe someone will figure a workaround, those guys at notion ink Adam have a very good honeycomb port which people use as a daily driver.
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That isn't too surprising, since the hardware is the same as every other tablet (Tegra2), and most of the acceleration should work without needing a recompile. On the other hand, we have to use the SDK code, which is compiled very generically, and we don't have that luxury.
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Given our respective success in porting things, i think i will value my opinion just a bit more, sorry.
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Of course.
I still really appreciate the random efforts at a Honeycomb ports - it's unfortunate there isn't a larger Honeycomb dev community looking at this device, but at the same time completely understandable when you read the struggles of DB, DMC, etc., and the relatively dim outlook without a proper 3.0/.1/.2 source release.
For a long time I just thought it'd be a matter of time and folks would be right back at it - but now that it's taking a long while, there's real concern that if/when a proper source is released, will people still be interested in developing for the NC?
So yeah - I appreciate seeing any efforts pop up. It reminds me people are trying, and that's awesome.
CM based roms work just fine - but there's something decidedly underwhelming about the 2.x experience on a tablet.
arrjaytea -
I could guarantee, with the AOSP code, the nook would be an even neater device. Frankly, assuming we dont lose a dev base, i see great things for our device when ICS hits. As it is, from everything i have heard form our CM7 brethren, CM7's efforts are not for waste; many lessons and fixes learned here will help future efforts..
Assuming el goog keeps their word, the nook is still living the high life.
I really hope the current devs stick around long enough to dev a great ICS rom. I cannot wait for that at all. Finally, a proper HC-"based" rom for it.
In my opinion we let Google get to big by adopting their "free" services. They are as evil as Microsoft was/is in my eyes now. Not releasing code that they basically said would be open and public until it is "end of life" goes against the foundation of what android was supposed to be about. They are like Walmart in that they undercut the little guy to drive them under and then piss on us. Had it not been for android, alot of us would probably be running Openmoko on our phones and maybe tablets. Flames away
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In my opinion we let Google get to big by adopting their "free" services. They are as evil as Microsoft was/is in my eyes now. Not releasing code that they basically said would be open and public until it is "end of life" goes against the foundation of what android was supposed to be about. They are like Walmart in that they undercut the little guy to drive them under and then piss on us. Had it not been for android, alot of us would probably be running Openmoko on our phones and maybe tablets. Flames away
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If they release the code, there's a chance that the Android brand will be further fragmented and destroyed by improper use of it. Blame the Chineese tablet makers for stuffing 1.6 on tablets, that's what this is a result of.
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I still really appreciate the random efforts at a Honeycomb ports - it's unfortunate there isn't a larger Honeycomb dev community looking at this device, but at the same time completely understandable when you read the struggles of DB, DMC, etc., and the relatively dim outlook without a proper 3.0/.1/.2 source release.
For a long time I just thought it'd be a matter of time and folks would be right back at it - but now that it's taking a long while, there's real concern that if/when a proper source is released, will people still be interested in developing for the NC?
So yeah - I appreciate seeing any efforts pop up. It reminds me people are trying, and that's awesome.
CM based roms work just fine - but there's something decidedly underwhelming about the 2.x experience on a tablet.
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After working a lot more with honeycomb port, i think i am happy that a lot more developers are actually working on cm7 than on honeycomb ports, these ports are a good way to try honeycomb on nook and have a little fun but, i don't think that even if we solve the video drivers issue honeycomb sdk could be used as a daily driver. The problems are just too much and the amount of tweaking it would require to get a good usable rom would not be worth it. Even functionality wise, sdk's have lots of problem. As for when source it released i think we will get at least one more CM port simply because the no of nook owners is just a lot right now.
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If they release the code, there's a chance that the Android brand will be further fragmented and destroyed by improper use of it. Blame the Chineese tablet makers for stuffing 1.6 on tablets, that's what this is a result of.
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That's the inherent risk involved in adopting the open source model. You have a chance of fragmentation because you have so many manufacturers developing device or brand specific code and you have many developers developing codes specific to their roms, but what some see as fragmentation others see as variety, accessibility, and community driven problem solving. Android is probably on twice as many devices as Apples iOS. In my opinion a little fragmentation is worth the price.
I am disappointed that Google didn't release the source code. Anybody who has the ability to do some crazy like run honeycomb on their G1 phone or any other phone for that matter should be prepared for an experimental experience.
As for manufactures the Chinese putting Donut on their tablets--perhaps would have been easier for them to put Honeycomb on it if Google would have released the source codes. A lot of us are running phone OSes on our tablet albeit most of us are running Gingerbread on our Nook colors, but it would be nice to get a tablet OS like Honeycomb. Ice Cream Sandwich is suppose to be a Q4 release, but we'll see if that still happens. At least their is some hope. Just my humble 2 cents.
Just want to know if anyone else knows about this new app that is in dev at the moment.
It is a way of having a dual boot with ios5 and android
Links -
http://code.google.com/p/bootdroid/
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http://bootdroid.blogspot.com/
As said in the other thread, Im not sure whether its a fake rip off or a real one. Apple hasn't and wouldn't give source codes for their crap.
And erm, ios would just dirty my phone
Yes, im a fanboy
I am slightly convinced that if might be real, although as said on the blog he has run into some legal problems but thinks he might have found a way around this, I am a Droid fan but this is a show off feature that would be pretty cool.
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I am slightly convinced that if might be real, although as said on the blog he has run into some legal problems but thinks he might have found a way around this, I am a Droid fan but this is a show off feature that would be pretty cool.
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Yea, me too. It might be real too for all it matters
Wow it would be really nice to have ios running on my SII. i love android, but showing the fanboys that our device can do both. It's priceless. keep up the good work
im interested in this project mostly because would be nice to test performance on the s2 but then you would run into issues like their retina display, apple would never allow it since there platform is copyright, but luckily this guy is named Anonymous
heres a pic from his blog
http://i44.tinypic.com/24n0eph.jpghttp://i44.tinypic.com/24n0eph.jpg
It would be intresting to see how this would work and i think the galaxy s2 is the perfect phone to test on, but i cant see how he going to get over the legal issues.
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It would be intresting to see how this would work and i think the galaxy s2 is the perfect phone to test on, but i cant see how he going to get over the legal issues.
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If he could create a script or program that could take an IPSW (Firmware file) and make it "android ready" for lack of a better term, he would be completely safe. As the user would be downloading the IPSW and supplying it not him. Also the IPSW are available freely on Apple's site so they couldn't come after the users at that point at all. He just has to find a way to do that (not going to be easy).
Also iOS source is available on apple's dev site for anyone to look at it. It's just mostly copywrited (besides the BSD portions). I'm not sure if all of it's there but I have looked at some of it in the past for hints to exploits for jailbreaking.
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If he could create a script or program that could take an IPSW (Firmware file) and make it "android ready" for lack of a better term, he would be completely safe. As the user would be downloading the IPSW and supplying it not him. Also the IPSW are available freely on Apple's site so they couldn't come after the users at that point at all. He just has to find a way to do that (not going to be easy).
Also iOS source is available on apple's dev site for anyone to look at it. It's just mostly copywrited (besides the BSD portions). I'm not sure if all of it's there but I have looked at some of it in the past for hints to exploits for jailbreaking.
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Well he has been quiet for a while, so maybe that is what he is working on, i am no dev so wouldent have any idea of how long a process like that would take.
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Well he has been quiet for a while, so maybe that is what he is working on, i am no dev so wouldent have any idea of how long a process like that would take.
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I have some development background, and from my knowledge of iOS and ARM Devices this would be quite a task if this is what he is doing.
I really want to believe this is real but I just found a link from github by someone called Peter42 who freshly uploaded a "BootDroid" code.
Last update to his blog dated 24 March is the same date the files were uploaded.
I have a Motorola Xoom and believe I can't test them.
Could anyone (for God's sake!) confirm whether they were real or not?
If possible, I already downloaded the files and would upload them for you in case original was removed.
this should be awesome, running ios in the powerfull SII... just for shutup the izombies xP
Even better, the upcoming Galaxy SIII!
But for real, can anyone try that?
I just ran the installation process on my Motorola Xoom and didn't notice any difference like a new app nor by or through restarting.
I'm kinda hyped up on this and would love to brag about how Android is superior to iOS if it was true
I heard about this and i think the guy plans to do it by vnc so just displaying the iPhone screen over internet
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I heard about this and i think the guy plans to do it by vnc so just displaying the iPhone screen over internet
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I seen that on his blog, i hope he dosent take that route for this development as that is somthing i couldent use or want to really.
waaaavvv great project
where is the download link?
OMG
Oh my GOD, this can not be true ... ,i can not belive, ios running on the most powerful smartphone ever built, i can not belive that ... honestly. This a dream, someone tell me that's a dream ... . I can't wait to test the stable version! iOS on Samsung Galaxy S II. Guys do you realise what that means? This is something fantastic, awesome. Can't wait. Keep workin guys till the stable version. Many of us will be so so so so happy! Keep it up!
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waaaavvv great project
where is the download link?
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It is not avaible to download yet as he is working on some problems before an alpha release, and their are some legal issues to got over. Also the dev has been calla fraud by some, it is not know if this is true or not but i belive the project is true.
ismailykr said:
waaaavvv great project
where is the download link?
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allocen said:
Oh my GOD, this can not be true ... ,i can not belive, ios running on the most powerful smartphone ever built, i can not belive that ... honestly. This a dream, someone tell me that's a dream ... . I can't wait to test the stable version! iOS on Samsung Galaxy S II. Guys do you realise what that means? This is something fantastic, awesome. Can't wait. Keep workin guys till the stable version. Many of us will be so so so so happy! Keep it up!
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I don't really know if this was the link to the program or not though it's called the same.
But as I said before, these files were uploaded the day he last updated his post.
You can download it from there.
I don't really know how this should work since it doesn't even have iOS firmware files but I figured someone with a supported device could try and see for himself.
Nothing appeared on my Xoom at all which is not supported!
And, you can uninstall it from the same installation wizard.
Hi everybody !
Sorry for my english, I'm french.
I am really interested on this application, so I wonder if somebody has already succed in make it working ?
I' ve downloaded the Zip package on the website shared on the link below, but I don't understand how to instal it...
I think that even if it's possible to run iOs and Adroid on a Iphone, it woould be difficult to do the same on a androphone beacause iOs in not an open source system ...
Can somebody help me please ?
Thanks to you guys