I have a the TITAN windows phone and I really love it!
I know a lot of people have that problem too and, the only thing that's making me thinking about changing it is its signal strength.
It is very bad!
I always have only 2 or 3 bars at most. And, when the phone is in 3g/4g mode, the calls drop when I have only 1 bar of signal. Can't make phone calls at 1 bar neither so, I always switch the phone to 2g/edge (using the ##3282# trick...).
It works fine on 2g/edge network, no problems at all and lots of signal too!!!
So, I was just wondering if anybody bought the new TITAN II, is the signal strength any better than the TITAN?
Because if it is, I'll buy it and give this one to my wife because I cannot work with a phone on 2g/edge only. I need fast internet.
It would be nice to post some pictures of it too with the back cover off so we can see if the antennas look better (updated) ....
Thanks!
My Titan II is full bars almost everywhere I go.
No LTE coverage in my area til December though.
I'm also wondering how the call quality is. Even thought the Titan is a badass phone, I suffer from that muffled sound that people complain about when I talk to them without a bluetooth headset. I was wondering if the call quality on the Titan II is much better than the original
I am wondering the same. Its funny how the Titan II doesn't have its own section on xda
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lesd777 said:
I am wondering the same. Its funny how the Titan II doesn't have its own section on xda
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Seeing as the only difference is LTE and the Camera there isn't much need for a completely different section. When ROMS are released the only issue that might come up with compatibility is the camera Driver.
As for signal see as its a rubber/plastic back compared to the original metal = Better Signal all around
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My Titan II is full bars almost everywhere I go.
No LTE coverage in my area til December though.
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Could you be kind enough to post a picture of it with the back cover off?
I really want to see if the antennas are the same as the TITAN.
And, what about the sound?
Do people hear you loud and clear? not muffled???
Thanks !!!
Anyone with Titan 2 - could you please see if you have the SRS HD issue or not? i.e. play some graphic intensive game with SRS HD on - see if it lags or pauses. Then switch it off and see if it doesn't?
I hope it's fixed and you could have sound in SRS HD with excellent graphics!
jojapath said:
I always have only 2 or 3 bars at most. And, when the phone is in 3g/4g mode, the calls drop when I have only 1 bar of signal. Can't make phone calls at 1 bar neither so, I always switch the phone to 2g/edge (using the ##3282# trick...).
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This my first time hearing about the ##3282# trick. What do all the settings mean and how do you switch to 2g
bennyj71 said:
This my first time hearing about the ##3282# trick. What do all the settings mean and how do you switch to 2g
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These settings look awesome!
Especially the 2g/3g and Auto! "Auto" is the one which will help those who suffer from bad 3g I suppose.
Via settings menu we can only do 2g or 3g (on 8107). However, If this trick allows to select Auto, it means instead of constantly looking for either 2g or 3g, the phone will be able to easily swap with whatever is available! Excellent!
However, don't know if this is with data or without data!
EDIT: I am 'guessing' and now testing that by increasing the polling frequency from 3sec to 10 sec we will be able to calm down the battery drain and theoratically the battery will last longer. I am going to keep testing at 10sec for couple of charge-discharge cycles and report back. I've also manually set it to 'auto' instead of 3g only from settings. If anyone knows that this might be harmful or bad, please drop me an alert!
Wow, Lots of settings to get wrong lol, Very handy to know that trick though, Await your findings drupad, best of luck
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Wow, Lots of settings to get wrong lol, Very handy to know that trick though, Await your findings drupad, best of luck
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Hah! It's been one hour so far.
Data on, Auto set, Polling 10 secs. Phone idle. Not touched it. It only syncs my hotmail, outlook, twitter and facebook as item arrives. No other background tasks.
The battery has dropped 1% in roughly 63-64 minutes. BTW This includes a restart too which is weird as restart always drops 4-5% of battery for me.
Too early to say anything
Superb stuff, looks very promising so far, I noticed I couldn't change polling to ten as only went up to nine? Have gotta give it a go now.
Update: Settings don't stay active on my handset, as soon as you leave Field Test then go back the settings have defaulted.
Ok now disappointing news. On restart, it sets back to 3g only and also polling resets to 3 seconds! Also, on switching on WiFi and switching off leads to reset! I am not sure if this answers the question of - wifi/3g and non-APN SIM cards. Could you please try the WiFi bit? Does your SIM have APN settings saved on it or you need manual addition?
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Left field test open and turned on wi-fi, went back to field test and settings remain, As for APN Have no clue
I only use the field test settings to switch to 2G/Edge and keep the data on because, as I said in my previous post, it is the only way I get good signal.
I also noticed that if you change the poll frequency to anything else than 3, it will eventually reset both to default.
Also, when I change the settings to 2G, I have to hit the back button and wait about 5 sec. for the change to take effect or else it does not work.
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I only use the field test settings to switch to 2G/Edge and keep the data on because, as I said in my previous post, it is the only way I get good signal.
I also noticed that if you change the poll frequency to anything else than 3, it will eventually reset both to default.
Also, when I change the settings to 2G, I have to hit the back button and wait about 5 sec. for the change to take effect or else it does not work.
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How is this different to changing it from the settings, do you know?
Also, are you using it only because you haven't got the update with toggle yet?
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Left field test open and turned on wi-fi, went back to field test and settings remain, As for APN Have no clue
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surely my phone is one of the kind then!
APN settings won't be an issue for you I think.
Giffgaff uses O2's network,so doesn't have it's own settings on the SIM. That's why everytime I use wifi, I can't access marketplace on 3g. After turning off wifi, I have to edit APN manually and restart if I want marketplace/zune on 3g. Otherwise 3g works normally.
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How is this different to changing it from the settings, do you know?
Also, are you using it only because you haven't got the update with toggle yet?
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I have force-updated to 8107 but I don't have the 3G toggle option. Only Data on/off option so I use this trick to be able to still receive data but on 2G only...
drupad2drupad said:
surely my phone is one of the kind then!
APN settings won't be an issue for you I think.
Giffgaff uses O2's network,so doesn't have it's own settings on the SIM. That's why everytime I use wifi, I can't access marketplace on 3g. After turning off wifi, I have to edit APN manually and restart if I want marketplace/zune on 3g. Otherwise 3g works normally.
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That is weird, Must be a Giffgaff thing? Am O2 but never had any issues with Wifi to 3G toggle.
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Seriously, the best thing about the Evo was the ability to turn off 4G. Am I missing something here or did they omit this feature from the Thunderbolt? Cant find it anywhere. Without doing anything other than having email sync'd, a few texts and a few speed tests my battery is under 40% in under 4 hours from a full charge.
Open the dialer app :
1) *#*#4636#*#*
2) Phone Information
3) Scroll down to the 2nd drop down box and select the following :
CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto for auto switching between CDMA and LTE
CDMA auto (PRL) for CDMA only
brownhornet said:
Seriously, the best thing about the Evo was the ability to turn off 4G. Am I missing something here or did they omit this feature from the Thunderbolt? Cant find it anywhere. Without doing anything other than having email sync'd, a few texts and a few speed tests my battery is under 40% in under 4 hours from a full charge.
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If you want to turn data off entirely, that is in Settings, Wireless & Networks, Mobile Network checkbox.
Or do you want to have it on but slow?
it's not an option via the power widget?...oh no...hopefully custom roms will resolve this
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Seriously, the best thing about the Evo was the ability to turn off 4G. Am I missing something here or did they omit this feature from the Thunderbolt? Cant find it anywhere. Without doing anything other than having email sync'd, a few texts and a few speed tests my battery is under 40% in under 4 hours from a full charge.
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i just checked in extended controls there is a toggle for 4g(wimax) would be worth downloading to see if it worked, if it doesn't you can always uninstall it and get your money back
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Open the dialer app :
1) *#*#4636#*#*
2) Phone Information
3) Scroll down to the 2nd drop down box and select the following :
CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto for auto switching between CDMA and LTE
CDMA auto (PRL) for CDMA only
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Thanks man gotta save this one for now
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I had warned you before OP lol. My test device have that option, so I'm slightly confused as to why the masses doesn't have it too.
twobit said:
Open the dialer app :
1) *#*#4636#*#*
2) Phone Information
3) Scroll down to the 2nd drop down box and select the following :
CDMA+LTE/EvDO auto for auto switching between CDMA and LTE
CDMA auto (PRL) for CDMA only
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Will definitely try this but WTF Verizon? I can only imagine what battery life is going to be like for people not in an LTE area.
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i just checked in extended controls there is a toggle for 4g(wimax) would be worth downloading to see if it worked, if it doesn't you can always uninstall it and get your money back
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anyone tried this to see if it works?
to be honest, i've been playing with mine for a few hours and it barely dropped in juice while using 4g...i dont think its that bad...but def thanks for that info on how to turn it off
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to be honest, i've been playing with mine for a few hours and it barely dropped in juice while using 4g...i dont think its that bad...but def thanks for that info on how to turn it off
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The first thing I did was go into sync settings and disable the weather, stocks, and news syncing. Seems to help a lot, since I don't even use those stupid things.
So if you cant turn off 4g, does it sit there and keep searching for all of us not in a 4g area?
Is it smart and stops searching after a while, or long pauses in between searching?
This is for sure a deciding factor for me.
It's simple, because it does use a lot of power. LTE is not Wimax and this isn't a EVO running a 1st gen CPU.
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So if you cant turn off 4g, does it sit there and keep searching for all of us not in a 4g area?
Is it smart and stops searching after a while, or long pauses in between searching?
This is for sure a deciding factor for me.
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I am not an expert, but afaik, if it does not find an LTE signal, it will camp on CDMA (eHRPD) to be specific. After that, the radio probably periodically scans for a 4G pilot in order to jump up to 4G if / when available. The frequency of the scan is probably dependent on who makes the LTE modem portion and how HTC has written their radio software.
Im sure it wont take long for someone to figure out how to modify that scan interval. Modifying that (depending on factory settings) IMO would have a good impact on battery life. We shall see with in the next day or so...
Really, that was the *BEST* thing about the EVO? I agree the option should be there, but it's not really a big deal.
Why assume it "scans" at all? I know they look for a data connection when they don't have one, but if I were designing the system, I would have the tower tell the phone what it has on the existing data connection, not make the phone ask.
I have to say that the title of this thread was EXACTLY what I was thinking when I couldn't find a way to turn off 4G. I doubt that it doesn't eat battery. Whether or not it is more efficient than EVDO is an interesting question.
I wonder if the lower band for 4G gives better performance, and thus doesn't require as much power as Sprint's.
Joel
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No i tried it and it doesnt work
New day, new issue.
I just activated 3G on my phone. I go to Wireless & Network> Mobile Network>Select Network.
Now, here is the catch.
WHen I click '3G Only', the network goes zero with a little Plus sign. Like the medical shops have.
But when I click 'Automatic' the network returns. BUT I still have a 'E' on top with arrows in both directions blinking.
Now, my question, how do I know if I am on 3G or not. The Speedtest app shows speeds as much as 2G still...
Any ideas??
It does the same for me, but get a 3G signal after 10 seconds or so.
It's probably just trying to search for a decent 3G network, but it shouldn't take too long since you live in Bombay and its a major city.
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It does the same for me, but get a 3G signal after 10 seconds or so.
It's probably just trying to search for a decent 3G network, but it shouldn't take too long since you live in Bombay and its a major city.
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Thanx man..the thing is, I just activated it like half an hour back..the Vodafone guys told me it will take at least 4 hours..I just shut the data and am waiting...for a message I might receive..
i tend to get that sign a couple of times, i usually wait like 20secs, any longer i just head back through towards mobile settings & further and somehow when i back out of settings i somehow get signal. if u have further probs with signal try this app, works wonders - FreshNetwork.
hope it helps!! good luck!!
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i tend to get that sign a couple of times, i usually wait like 20secs, any longer i just head back through towards mobile settings & further and somehow when i back out of settings i somehow get signal. if u have further probs with signal try this app, works wonders - FreshNetwork.
hope it helps!! good luck!!
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Solved!
Had to send the msg ACT 3G to 144. Now blasting through the internet.
My phone - I have ICS - S-OFF Amaze with Energy ROM and I had tried to apply blas0id tweaks.
The problem - In certain areas I don't have phone signal for a few minutes, then suddenly it will show 4 bars for a few minutes. In general the signal seems fickle.
Before ICS upgrade, when I had GB, I always had 4 bars in the same places. I *think* I had good signal with ICS before I did blat0id tweaks, but I am not certain of that. (ICS and the tweaks were within a few days)
My wife's Iphone still has excellent signal in those places. Tmobile Mytouch also has excellent signal in the same places. So something has changed on my amaze and not the cell towers.
What I have done so far -
1. went back to stock ICS by flashing the img file. That did not improve the signal. So then got back to energy
2. Tried another ROM - speedrom. No improvement in signal
3. Tried few apps like fresh network. They did not help
Please help me
What can/should I do? I love my amaze, but if I dont get consistent signal, I will have to replace it
Are there any tweaks that I can try?
How about the custom kernels that have been made for ICS recently, would those help?
Is there a way to increase the power to look for and catch on better signal? I can trade battery life for better signal
Thanks
I have same issue but with WiFi only. I never had GB I hope there is a work around
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Found a workaround
This was dumb luck, but when I was trying to play around the app opensignal, it wanted me to set 2G for some of its functionality, since that functionality does not work over 3g. So I went to setup and set Network mode to "GSM Only" from "GSM/WCDMA Auto"
And walla! right after that my signal jumped from 1 bar to 4 bars and has stayed there. I went back to WCDMA and signal dropped, so now I change the network mode only when I need 4G. Its a pain, but at least, the signal is good when I need it.
So with that information, can someone help how I can tweak something to get my 4G and also good signal?
Thanks
try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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I would like to kno also but let kno what radio u flash from the ruu
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try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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I checked the version of my software and I think I already have R2
Build number
2.14.531.3_R2 CL373265 release-keys
So not sure if that would change anything
I have always had this problem as well sometimes I have 4 bars of signal then it drops to the X as in no signal,can't make calls or sends texts until it picks up again, happens totally random don't think it has to do anything with tmobile coverage since I live in the center of Miami. Also most of the time I have 2 bars of signal in most places, I believe it's faulty hardware
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try updating the radio if you have done so, even though you are going to have to go through the process of locking the device again and unlocking the bootloader again, that would be an idea to try, we still dont know what changes R2 radio update has done but its deff worth a shot
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Krazex2005 said:
I have always had this problem as well sometimes I have 4 bars of signal then it drops to the X as in no signal,can't make calls or sends texts until it picks up again, happens totally random don't think it has to do anything with tmobile coverage since I live in the center of Miami. Also most of the time I have 2 bars of signal in most places, I believe it's faulty hardware
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Krazex .. did you try to set your network mode and see if that helps your signal stick around longer and get better signal? That is working well for me.
I've tried setting my network to GSA and my data speed dropped to 2G.
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soundping said:
I've tried setting my network to GSA and my data speed dropped to 2G.
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yup, that's what this setting is supposed to do, but it increased the quality of my phone signal, that is what I am trying to make better/consistent. Because even after all the bells and whistles, calling someone/receiving the calls is the primary purpose of the phone for me and if that doesn't work, the phone doesn't work for me
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
My amaze won't get 4g in my house whatsoever, only switches to 2g when it feels like it.
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hasoon2000 said:
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
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A new sim card is a good idea.. so is removing the back cover and cleaning off the contacts with a q-tip and some rubbing alcohol. Taking something and SLIGHTLY bending out each of the gold contacts so they make better contact with the case, making sure there is no debris.
Another thing to look into- there is a TON of hacks for cellphone signal that can be done in build.prop.. playing with those settings is probably a good idea.
The last idea- the signal is actually NOT different. The number of bars it shows you is now just more ACCURATE. You still lose signal in ONLY the exact places you would have before.. but now when your phone would show you as having 1 or 2 bars(on gingerbread) right before you lose all signal, on ICS it shows you as having NO bars because you truly have almost lost the signal. It is VERY accurate, now that I am in an area with bad signal.. I have actually flashed gingerbread again and things did NOT get better, there was just fewer bars that weren't as accurate. But I lost signal in the same spots, and would lost 4g in the same exact spots..
hasoon2000 said:
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
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RZJZA80 said:
My amaze won't get 4g in my house whatsoever, only switches to 2g when it feels like it.
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Guys, OP here. This question/workaround is not about getting 4G. I am getting 4G just fine. Its about the phone signal (the bars). My amaze does not get good phone signal in some areas and when I set the network mode to GSM only (2G), phone signal strength and stability increases. and now I want to figure out how I can keep the setting to 4G and get a good phone signal
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A new sim card is a good idea.. so is removing the back cover and cleaning off the contacts with a q-tip and some rubbing alcohol. Taking something and SLIGHTLY bending out each of the gold contacts so they make better contact with the case, making sure there is no debris.
Another thing to look into- there is a TON of hacks for cellphone signal that can be done in build.prop.. playing with those settings is probably a good idea.
The last idea- the signal is actually NOT different. The number of bars it shows you is now just more ACCURATE. You still lose signal in ONLY the exact places you would have before.. but now when your phone would show you as having 1 or 2 bars(on gingerbread) right before you lose all signal, on ICS it shows you as having NO bars because you truly have almost lost the signal. It is VERY accurate, now that I am in an area with bad signal.. I have actually flashed gingerbread again and things did NOT get better, there was just fewer bars that weren't as accurate. But I lost signal in the same spots, and would lost 4g in the same exact spots..
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Hi SBD, thanks for coming in. I will look into build.prop (ro.ril properties I think) I will also clean any dust inside the phone, may be that will help. The sim card was new when I got my amaze .. but no harm in trying. So I will ask for a new sim card too.
However, in my case, I have a different experience. This is what I did in a weak signal spot.
Have 4G on. I get 0 signal. Can't make a call
go to 2G at the same spot, I get 2-3 bars. I can make a call
I used opensignal app to check signal strength in both cases. with 4G it showed 0. With 2G it showed 42%
Another test. On my route to drop kids off for their day camp, I was on a call (with 4G on) and dropped the call twice (bad reception areas) while going. I switched it to 2G and while coming back did not drop the call.
Before I found this workaround .. people called me and complained that it directly went to voicemail and I never got the call. (no signal). Since I found the workaround, I haven't heard that from anyone.
So I am convinced that there are some real issues in catching the signal with 4G on that get resolved in "2G only" mode. (may be it has to do with the kind of cell towers we have in our area and nothing to do with the phone)
will update if I find more
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Hi SBD, thanks for coming in. I will look into build.prop (ro.ril properties I think) I will also clean any dust inside the phone, may be that will help.
However, in my case, I have a different experience. This is what I did in a weak signal spot.
Have 4G on. I get 0 signal. Can't make a call
go to 2G at the same spot, I get 2-3 bars. I can make a call
I used opensignal app to check signal strength in both cases. with 4G it showed 0. With 2G it showed 42%
Another test. On my route to drop kids off for their day camp, I was on a call (with 4G on) and dropped the call twice (bad reception areas) while going. I switched it to 2G and while coming back did not drop the call.
Before I found this workaround .. people called me and complained that it directly went to voicemail and I never got the call. (no signal). Since I found the workaround, I haven't heard that from anyone.
So I am convinced that there are some real issues in catching the signal with 4G on that get resolved in "2G only" mode. (may be it has to do with the kind of cell towers we have in our area and nothing to do with the phone)
will update if I find more
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Yea, it should be lines that have ro.ril that youd eant to change.. and fortunately one of those that you can add(it isn't included by default) will do exactly what you need, default to 2g signal when 4g is too weak. I actually need the same thing, in Jacksonville we have great signal.. except in this new place I moved into. It drains my battery by trying to stay with 4g.. but I don't have time before work to find it.
Look for a tthread by "master&slave" titled something like "super build.prop tweaks" in the vibrant forums, I THINK they had that line.. otherwise google around for something like "build.prop signal tweak" as if it isisn't in that thread, there's a really good one on some other forum.
Also, I remember there being some app that requires root that allows you to toggle between GSM preferred and 2g only.. it changes it at system level, and I don't think it was on the play store, I think it was on Xda.
But yea, I understand your dilemma, and until we get an alternative radio to flash(which I don't forsee), that is the kind of workarounds you need. If you find a reasonable solution make sure to post as it will help me too!
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Found that thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1151608
and a few others
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1227269
http://androinica.com/2009/12/hack-for-rooted-phones-promises-faster-2g3g-speeds/
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/9781-buildprop-roril-meanings/
I will try to figure out what these different ril properties control and which one to modify .. will report after my experimentation. I haven't found a good comprehensive explanation of all those properties yet.
Glad I'm not the only one...
hasoon2000 said:
GSM = 2G
WCDMA = 3G/4G
Get a new SIM card.
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I have had this problem ever since I got my phone in October (right after launch). Updating to ICS didn't help. i've been planning to root and try another ROM, but so far have been skittish as this is my only phone. hasoon, you say it's the SIM card? I am trying the switch to GSM only to see if it makes a difference. My problem is at home - I have terrible service and I live on a mountain with cell phone towers everywhere. My daughter's AT&T and my old AT&T Nokia E71x had excellent service there. I'll let you know if this helps. Maybe a trip to my local t-Mobile store is in order.
It's not the sim card. I noticed on google a lot of people have this problem with htc phones. It's just a bad radio.
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soundping said:
It's not the sim card. I noticed on google a lot of people have this problem with htc phones. It's just a bad radio.
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We know. If you wanna help read my post number 16 or try some of the links he posted in 17.. we just need a decent workaround.
I was wondering if anyone can confirm if there is a way to disable LTE? I just came from the OG Razr and I was able to use the app "Phone Info" to toggle the LTE and CDMA radios. Is this app specific to Moto devices and will it work with the Samsung Radio? Or is there a better way to turn off LTE?
I'm in a non LTE area at work and want a way to keep it from searching for LTE and draining my battery. Thanks!
Edit: I guess my question is, can someone in a LTE area confirm that it is in fact working? Not being in a LTE area, I do not know how to confirm that the radio is being shut off. Thanks!
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I was wondering if anyone can confirm if there is a way to disable LTE? I just came from the OG Razr and I was able to use the app "Phone Info" to toggle the LTE and CDMA radios. Is this app specific to Moto devices and will it work with the Samsung Radio? Or is there a better way to turn off LTE?
I'm in a non LTE area at work and want a way to keep it from searching for LTE and draining my battery. Thanks!
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It should work...I know it didnt play nice on some of the gs3 roms. Try it and report back.
I'm in LTE coverage and I've disabled LTE with the Phone Info app. Worked like a charm.
Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
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Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
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I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
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I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
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I can change back and forth without any problems. After changing back, it sometimes takes a little bit for the 4G to pick back up. Are you trying to change it back in the phone's settings or through the Phone Info app?
You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
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I did this and now my phone will not change back to use 4g, I have tried setting it to Global (that's what it was first) to LTE/CDMA and to LTE only. Anyone know a fix. doesn't matter if you uninstall the app and reboot or even just reboot with the app installed, mine stays stuck.
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Same problem. I turn off 4G with the Phone Info app but the only way to turn it back on is in Android Settings and not the phone info app.
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You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
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Not true anymore. You can't switch it CDMA in the phone's stock settings . Verizon stopped having this option in the settings for any LTE device around the time that the ICS update went out for the RAZR and RAZR MAXX in the spring. It's not in the settings for the Galaxy S3, the DNA, or the Note 2. Verizon wants to move people off the 3G network and onto the 4G network. The only options in the stock settings for the Note 2 are Global, LTE/CDMA, and GSM/UMTS.
Since it can't be changed in the stock settings, that's why people are asking how to put the phone into 3G-only mode. There's a menu that can be accessed through the dialer, but an app like Phone Info makes things a little easier.
Yea, this option works great. I know each one is different, but with mine I had to go into the settings to get it to move back to LTE. Now that I am sure I can get LTE back then I will have qualms about using this. Thanks to the OP for this. Great IDEA!
I've always had luck setting it to "3G Only" in Phone Info, but have found you have to switch back to LTE in the actual Phone Menu.
I'm just disappointed this phone won't do "LTE Only". Was really hoping it would.
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bmkindoll said:
I've always had luck setting it to "3G Only" in Phone Info, but have found you have to switch back to LTE in the actual Phone Menu.
I'm just disappointed this phone won't do "LTE Only". Was really hoping it would.
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If you put the phone into LTE-only mode, you wouldn't be able to make or receive phone calls and texts. You'd only have data (and only when in LTE areas).
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If you put the phone into LTE-only mode, you wouldn't be able to make or receive phone calls and texts. You'd only have data (and only when in LTE areas).
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The phone info app only changes the data mode. Even on phones with LTE only, you always are able to make calls and receive texts.
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Its TwiX said:
The phone info app only changes the data mode. Even on phones with LTE only, you always are able to make calls and receive texts.
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Not true. The Phone Info app changes the entire network connection, not just data. Going into LTE only disables the CDMA radio, which is used for both voice and 3G data. It doesn't separate the two. This is well documented across forums online from people who have tried it. I've also previously tried it on other devices.
On the Note 2, if you select LTE only in the Phone Info app, it doesn't seem to actually put the phone into LTE only mode. If you exit the app and then open it back up, you'll see that it's reverted back to the previous mode (either Global or LTE/CDMA/EvDo). So that would explain still being able to make/receive calls and texts if you tried going into LTE only mode on the Note 2.
But if the phone was truly in LTE only mode, you couldn't make/receive calls or texts.
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You really dont need phone info. This phone you can change between lte and cdma. Go to settings *more settings and then mobile network. You can change between both there. If I remember correctly you can even put it in global.
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On this phone you can't choose 3G only by default without an app or other manual commands. Options are for GSM/UMTS, LTE/CDMA, and Global.
Doesn't seem to be turning off the LTE radio
Nonrooted, completely stock.
So, I got phone info, and chose cdma (PRL) only as discussed above.
And, I'm seeing NO improvement in battery life.
Measured anecdotally, over the last several days and from battery monitor widget.
I'm always at approximately 40% by 6pm (after unplugging at 650am) with average usage.
Isn't LTE a power hog? If it's disabled, shouldn't we see a measurable difference in battery life?
Any input greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
It does seem to be good at lowering the quality of netflix though so as to save me from running over my data limits.
willfck4beer said:
Nonrooted, completely stock.
So, I got phone info, and chose cdma (PRL) only as discussed above.
And, I'm seeing NO improvement in battery life.
Measured anecdotally, over the last several days and from battery monitor widget.
I'm always at approximately 40% by 6pm (after unplugging at 650am) with average usage.
Isn't LTE a power hog? If it's disabled, shouldn't we see a measurable difference in battery life?
Any input greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
F
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The LTE versions of the Note 2 are getting battery life that's on par with the international 3G-only version, even when LTE is in use. So I'm not surprised that you're not finding there to really be a difference. Significant strides have been made over the past year that have made LTE much more energy efficient than it has a reputation for being.
The only time that I'd really think anyone would see a major difference is if you're in a fringe LTE area where the phone is constantly jumping back and forth between LTE and 3G. In a situation like that, disabling LTE will probably lead to a noticeable increase in battery life. Outside of that, the battery drain will probably be pretty similar.
Interesting - thanks for the info!
Seems counterintuitive that turning off a radio and denergizing it would seem to have almost nill effect over several hours - especially in light of the article the other day about how VoLTE was such a huge drain (approx 140%) of regular CDMA voice traffic - due to the peculiar nature of CDMA+LTE with simultaneous voice and lte data.
Odd, another data point, on mine, disabling wifi as well seems to have no substantial affect either.
Maybe this is due to the Qualcomm ?gobi? chip? Supposed to be pretty badass iirc.
Hate to necro-bump this thread, but is there a way to do this still? For whatever reason, LTE at my desk at work gets almost zero data while 3g works fine (albeit a little slow). The app mentioned previously doesn't seem to have any way to change settings.
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Hate to necro-bump this thread, but is there a way to do this still? For whatever reason, LTE at my desk at work gets almost zero data while 3g works fine (albeit a little slow). The app mentioned previously doesn't seem to have any way to change settings.
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Still works on mine:
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Yep, use the Phone Info app from the Play Store. Once installed, open it up and select "Device information." Scroll down a bit to a the box labeled "Set preferred network type." In the box, select CDMA auto (PRL). That will turn off the LTE radio.
Each time you reboot your phone, it will reset, so you'll have to go back into the app to change things.
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Good day all!
I've been experiencing some issues since I got my C6806 3 weeks ago. I live in Toronto and my provider is Rogers. The phone itself is unlocked and is just running the stock software which is 4.2.2, build # 14.1.B.2.257
Ever since I got the phone I've had a periodic issue where the phone signal strength will just completely die out to 0 bars, then it'll come back to full bars about 30 seconds later. It happens whether I'm home or out on the road. It happens if I'm using LTE bands or 3G or HSPA. It also happens whether I've got wifi on or off.
Any troubleshooting steps you could suggest?
Thanks in advance!
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Good day all!
I've been experiencing some issues since I got my C6806 3 weeks ago. I live in Toronto and my provider is Rogers. The phone itself is unlocked and is just running the stock software which is 4.2.2, build # 14.1.B.2.257
Ever since I got the phone I've had a periodic issue where the phone signal strength will just completely die out to 0 bars, then it'll come back to full bars about 30 seconds later. It happens whether I'm home or out on the road. It happens if I'm using LTE bands or 3G or HSPA. It also happens whether I've got wifi on or off.
Any troubleshooting steps you could suggest?
Thanks in advance!
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has it always happened?
Have you got stamina mode on? Turn stamina mode off and see if it stops..
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has it always happened?
Have you got stamina mode on? Turn stamina mode off and see if it stops..
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It seems to happen on a frequent basis. At least a couple of times a day when I happen to be paying attention to my phone.
I've never actually used stamina mode, and it's always been off.
How's LTE and HSPA where you are? If the signal is poor it'll switch over to the next thing on ladder. If you have a poor LTE signal it'll jump down to HSPA, and if you have a poor signal on that one it'll jump down to EDGE. It's the same dance if you walk into an area where there is good LTE coverage. It jump up from EDGE or HSPA to LTE, and iin all cases when it switches, you'll notice a couple of seconds where it connects to the new frequency (by having zero signal). That's why I disable LTE when I know I'm going to be in an area with poor LTE signal for a long period of time.
Not saying that this is your problem, but try only using EDGE for a couple of hours and see if it happens again.
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How's LTE and HSPA where you are? If the signal is poor it'll switch over to the next thing on ladder. If you have a poor LTE signal it'll jump down to HSPA, and if you have a poor signal on that one it'll jump down to EDGE. It's the same dance if you walk into an area where there is good LTE coverage. It jump up from EDGE or HSPA to LTE, and iin all cases when it switches, you'll notice a couple of seconds where it connects to the new frequency (by having zero signal). That's why I disable LTE when I know I'm going to be in an area with poor LTE signal for a long period of time.
Not saying that this is your problem, but try only using EDGE for a couple of hours and see if it happens again.
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LTE and HSPA coverage by Rogers in Toronto is great overall. I don't really use the LTE APN because it seems to suck up battery life immensely. I just keep it in the normal APN that seems to switch randomly between HSPA and 3G. The issue can occur if I'm just sitting still in a spot. I'm using it, and all of a sudden the signal just cuts out for about 30 seconds and comes back. Both before and after the incident I am usually at full bars.
I'm unsure of what EDGE is. The only things I control are the APNs I obtained from Rogers - one is just the standard one that gives me 3G and HSPA, and the other is LTE.
Dunno what else I can really do. I doubt it's my provider so it's gotta be the phone. Any other real troubleshooting steps to try, or should I just get this to Sony?
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LTE and HSPA coverage by Rogers in Toronto is great overall. I don't really use the LTE APN because it seems to suck up battery life immensely. I just keep it in the normal APN that seems to switch randomly between HSPA and 3G. The issue can occur if I'm just sitting still in a spot. I'm using it, and all of a sudden the signal just cuts out for about 30 seconds and comes back. Both before and after the incident I am usually at full bars.
I'm unsure of what EDGE is. The only things I control are the APNs I obtained from Rogers - one is just the standard one that gives me 3G and HSPA, and the other is LTE.
Dunno what else I can really do. I doubt it's my provider so it's gotta be the phone. Any other real troubleshooting steps to try, or should I just get this to Sony?
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EDGE is 2G. so turn off LTE and HSPA+ and see if it does it.
I don't have the LTE equipped phone so I'm not sure if these hardware functions will switch on and off randomly.
It sounds like your hardware is switching between 4g and 3g. problem is that both wont work simultaneously, so you would get this drop off. solution is that build prop edit i gave you.
But then you'd have 4g on all the time. so if you don't want that then turn it off manually.
Try these.
Edit your build.prop file.
(do you know how to do this??)
and insert these.
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ro.ril.hsxpa=3
ro.ril.gprsclass=12
ro.ril.hep=1
ro.ril.enable.dtm=1
ro.ril.hsdpa.category=20
ro.ril.hsupa.category=7
ro.ril.enable.a53=1
ro.ril.enable.3g.prefix=1
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that will stop hardware switching between 2g/3g/4g
as well as make it faster.
Settings->More...->Mobile Networks->Network Mode->GSM Only
You'll still have mobile data, but it will be SLOW. I think the top speed is around 400KB/sec, but you'll only use this to check if your signal is more stable without 3G/4G.
Tip: If you want to save battery and you aren't the type that uses a lot of mobile data, use EDGE (the thing i'm currently writing about). 4G uses a lot of juice.
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Settings->More...->Mobile Networks->Network Mode->GSM Only
You'll still have mobile data, but it will be SLOW. I think the top speed is around 400KB/sec, but you'll only use this to check if your signal is more stable without 3G/4G.
Tip: If you want to save battery and you aren't the type that uses a lot of mobile data, use EDGE (the thing i'm currently writing about). 4G uses a lot of juice.
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Thanks. Just made the change and will keep an eye on it over the next day or two.
Just gotta say holy crap this Edge thing is SO slow. Even just loading icons on Google Plus or Youtube searches takes forever. A mobile speed test is showing about 133 kbps...
Damn... gotta come up with a better solution that doesn't require having slow as shyte data access
I'm trying WCDMA only to see how this might work. At least the speeds are more tolerable there.
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Just gotta say holy crap this Edge thing is SO slow. Even just loading icons on Google Plus or Youtube searches takes forever. A mobile speed test is showing about 133 kbps...
Damn... gotta come up with a better solution that doesn't require having slow as shyte data access
I'm trying WCDMA only to see how this might work. At least the speeds are more tolerable there.
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Yeah, but keep using it for now. You're only checking if the signal drops while your on it, so I'm not saying that you should keep using it. It's only for a couple of hours. You can do it!
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Yeah, but keep using it for now. You're only checking if the signal drops while your on it, so I'm not saying that you should keep using it. It's only for a couple of hours. You can do it!
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*sigh* I'll try
lol
EDIT. Nevermind the part below. I just kept trying more SMS apps until I settled upon GO SMS and it seems to finally be able to load photos. Damned weird the default one wouldn't do it
On another note, can anyone explain why the built in Messaging app has issues both sending and recieving photos? Plus there're a few instances where it says I've got a message, but I've viewed them all. I've even tried downloading a few other messaging apps from the Play store, and they can't seem to view or send photos either. Damned weird if you ask me.
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*sigh* I'll try
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EDIT. Nevermind the part below. I just kept trying more SMS apps until I settled upon GO SMS and it seems to finally be able to load photos. Damned weird the default one wouldn't do it
On another note, can anyone explain why the built in Messaging app has issues both sending and recieving photos? Plus there're a few instances where it says I've got a message, but I've viewed them all. I've even tried downloading a few other messaging apps from the Play store, and they can't seem to view or send photos either. Damned weird if you ask me.
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I'm not using the stock messaging app. I'm using Hangouts as my main SMS app, but I didn't have any issues with it when I used it. The Android 4.3 update is released now, so you can update to it through PC Companion? Note that this will remove root and stuff like if you're rooted. If not, go ahead.
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I'm not using the stock messaging app. I'm using Hangouts as my main SMS app, but I didn't have any issues with it when I used it. The Android 4.3 update is released now, so you can update to it through PC Companion? Note that this will remove root and stuff like if you're rooted. If not, go ahead.
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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I just want to say that I'm having the exact same issue. I thought it might have occurred after I installed a custom room but I'm now back on stock and still experiencing 4 bars immediately dropping to no service and then going back to 3 or 4 bars before slowly dropping back to zero. I figured it could be LTE, so I experimented with all settings under mobile networks to no avail. I try the same Sim in my note 2 in the same location and I have no issues. I believe this is an issue with the antenna or a general hardware fault. My phone is the c6806, originally on Bell but being used on Telus. I have already contacted Sony but they are giving me the runaround
Anyone know how the warranty is handled in Canada? Anyone else have this problem?
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Sorry I'm restarting this thread one more time.. But anyone figure out a fix? I'm having the same problem on a brand new phone... I had the same phone before I lost it. Got it again but these signal dropping issues now . Never had these on my previous cc6806