I have something to say to all developers:
When you make a ROM, please don't say: "Awesome battery backup" or "Great battery life". It doesn't tell me anything AT ALL. I suggest when making ROMs test their battery life, make them go through browsing, movies, playing games, calling and ALL WHILE STAYING CONNECTED TO 3G/HPRS/EDGE, not WiFi. There are scripts that can help you with that and ways to do it, such as:
http://androidforums.com/incredible-accessories/102353-battery-stress-test-htc-1350mah-stock-battery-vs-dx-tp2-1500mah-battery.html
We all know WiFi takes less battery than a regular OTA data connection. I think all the ROMs here are good, some are great and some are not. But I'd like to see that so I can take more seriously what you're posting on the Features list of the ROM.
That is all.
I believe you posted in the wrong section, this should belong to the general section.But anyway you are partially right, most developers do test the battery life, not as intensive as you said but they tested it anyway, besides none of us do all the things you mentioned at the same time and even if you do thats the minority of us.This is related to the (!!!!!awesome rom ,Blazingly fast!!!!!!!! ) rom titles that are all arround this section
My AOSP doesn't even have 3G for god sake
Ace-ing all tests.
Sure, what I'm trying to convey is professionalism. Devs say: "Awesome battery backup". BACKUP? What the hell is that supposed to mean? As a user and as a programmer, I would like to know how good is a ROM before testing it and then sadly, wasting my time.
Wrong section, but you have a valid point. I don't trust the word of anyone, most of the things here are just placebos. Posting screenshots for battery life would help too. In fact, I think even scripts need to show such things or explain them.
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Sure, what I'm trying to convey is professionalism. Devs say: "Awesome battery backup". BACKUP? What the hell is that supposed to mean? As a user and as a programmer, I would like to know how good is a ROM before testing it and then sadly, wasting my time.
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yeah, i've heard that term many time and still wondering what in the world is it really means. "battery backup". lol
Wrong section. Report it next time. Moving.
Yea lol, and i hate those who claim that their battery life can last for 2-3 days, ***** plz, ur using the phone without normal usage (no internet browsing, gaming etc.) If ur going to live with ur phone with that just go and buy a Nokia 3310
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I'm with you
ROMFlasherAce said:
Yea lol, and i hate those who claim that their battery life can last for 2-3 days, ***** plz, ur using the phone without normal usage (no internet browsing, gaming etc.) If ur going to live with ur phone with that just go and buy a Nokia 3310
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I feel you.....my Defy only lasted 10h when overclocked + heavy browsing + Temple Run lol
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I feel you.....my Defy only lasted 10h when overclocked + heavy browsing + Temple Run lol
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THX, btw wtf lol Ace lasted around 3-4 hours for that usage, or even worse, im curious why Defy is in the same price range as Ace in Hong Kong but it is a lot better lol.....not fair!!!!
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THX, btw wtf lol Ace lasted around 3-4 hours for that usage, or even worse, im curious why Defy is in the same price range as Ace in Hong Kong but it is a lot better lol.....not fair!!!!
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The Motorola Defy .
Stuck at Froyo .
Uses .sbf for flashing instead of .tar.md5 .
Once you flash a higher GC version you cannot downgrade , unlike Samsung .
This device has false certs on it being water resistant .
But there is a great dev community and their ICS is almost full-fledged , even Camera and Full H/W works
Ace-ing all tests.
You are posting on the wrong section, as you're not doing any developing at all.
Why don't you do yourself the testing and post the results?
Independent battery life testing under controled conditions would be an interesting idea.
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This device has false certs on it being water resistant .
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so its not actually water resistant?
Well, I don't agree. Actually devs could say their ROM gives you sweet dreams if they wanted to. There's ROM review threads where you can post your experience with each ROM and check what other users say, then make your choice.
Really, how much time can you waste testing a ROM related to the time it takes to cook one?
Don't trust the claims on the ROM thread?
Don't use it.
Didn't like it? Didn't get what was promised? The battery life isn't great?
Then post your experience and let other users know.
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Well, I don't agree. Actually devs could say their ROM gives you sweet dreams if they wanted to. There's ROM review threads where you can post your experience with each ROM and check what other users say, then make your choice.
Really, how much time can you waste testing a ROM related to the time it takes to cook one?
Don't trust the claims on the ROM thread?
Don't use it.
Didn't like it? Didn't get what was promised? The battery life isn't great?
Then post your experience and let other users know.
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err that's just the problem! They say that "this rom has awesome battery" without testing it to the edge! They sometimes test it only with normal usage without wifi, heavy gaming, 3g etc. So of course if they say the battery is good users would really expect something from it but end up getting disappointed because it didn't live up to it's word! So yeah "Don't trust the claims on the ROM thread?
Don't use it."
If that's the case, no one would even be using any rom right right now, not even stock.
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It's able to handle splashes of water , like up to 1m
Ace-ing all tests.
Don't worry, I'm going to start doing the tests myself. And no, I'm not developing anything at all, but, so what? I'm fed up with the "all-high-and-mighty" attitude some devs (some, not all) have around here in XDA. Let this remind us we were all users once.
But, anyhow, I believe adding some quality standards that need to be met in order to release a ROM will not only increase the ROMs quality but also filter bad ROMs with devs that do not update their ROMs or just sh*tty ROMs that make no sense at all and I've seen my share around here...
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I'm fed up with the "all-high-and-mighty" attitude some devs (some, not all) have around here in XDA. Let this remind us we were all users once.
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I love you for saying that.
it doesnt matter if one has no idea of making roms . everyone should be
equal so stop looking at devs like they are all-high-and-mighty as well as devs feeling the same
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Anyway, I'd like to propose that quality standards are enforced here on the forums, so when you download something, you know it has to be good since it meets certain conditions. I have some ideas about it, but a discussion is long overdue. Suggestions, anyone?
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I thought maybe it was just the Vibrant section.. but the other phones I look over seem pretty slow also.
regarding the Vibrant, what gives? Why so slow on here?
The easy answer is people have moved on to new phones (and a lot have), but there are way too many Vibrants out there for XDA to be THIS slow. Are there no more questions that need to be answered? Everyone working on the GB Source?
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I thought maybe it was just the Vibrant section.. but the other phones I look over seem pretty slow also.
regarding the Vibrant, what gives? Why so slow on here?
The easy answer is people have moved on to new phones (and a lot have), but there are way too many Vibrants out there for XDA to be THIS slow. Are there no more questions that need to be answered? Everyone working on the GB Source?
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I don't think that there are no more questions to be answered, it's just that 99% of them already have been if people would be smart enough to search. If you look at development threads, pretty much all of them have the same questions in it and when a new thread is posted, the questions in that thread are the ones that have been previously answered.
Then there are those idiots that complain about a rom being horribly laggy (reflash fix) or having horrible battery life while the rom has only been out for less than a day.
I don't want to see dev's leaving but I can certainly see why they would be going away, xda is full of idiots and trolls.
yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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You can sugar coat crap all you want, in the end it's still crap
I, myself, have been hanging at edt HQ. Much nicer over there.
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I, myself, have been hanging at edt HQ. Much nicer over there.
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Yup, I think the previous people said it best. At this point, the Devs et al have really got this phone running sooo good there are not alot of issues to cry about. That, and the pending new phones that are beginning to get released, as well as, the tablets got people less focused on the Vibrant and some of the other phones that are 10 months old.
I got a color nook for my daughter and it is a blast to flash and mod, So alot of my flashing urge is satisfied with that.
I think alot of us are just waiting until June when the new S2 comes out, Then there will be this HUGE swell of interest again. But until that time, the vibrant and Galaxy phones are such a great phone to have it really is hard to complain.
I do agree alot of the kids/trolls have been griping more as of late, but I think that is because we have all been more silent. All in All, Love this Forum and all the people who contribute to it.
Everyones on the shortbus going on a field trip
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Yup, I think the previous people said it best. At this point, the Devs et al have really got this phone running sooo good there are not alot of issues to cry about. That, and the pending new phones that are beginning to get released, as well as, the tablets got people less focused on the Vibrant and some of the other phones that are 10 months old.
I got a color nook for my daughter and it is a blast to flash and mod, So alot of my flashing urge is satisfied with that.
I think alot of us are just waiting until June when the new S2 comes out, Then there will be this HUGE swell of interest again. But until that time, the vibrant and Galaxy phones are such a great phone to have it really is hard to complain.
I do agree alot of the kids/trolls have been griping more as of late, but I think that is because we have all been more silent. All in All, Love this Forum and all the people who contribute to it.
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I've come dangerously close multiple times on picking up a Nook Color, is it a viable tablet on CM7?
I've been splitting my time between here and Team Whiskey forums....i still love XDA but trolls aren't allowed in T.W. house ...i think when we get our TW ROM devs come back then we'll see some goodness back in the Vibrant forums...until then we're getting over-ran with ROM ports and themes.
I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
All of us could spend time navigating each of their site, and creating logins for each one... but it's just so nice to have EVERYTHING in one space.
And those who do branch off, always seem to come back anyway.
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I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
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I agree, but it seems to be a necessity these days. Also, it sucks having to post two topics xD
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I really dislike the idea of each "team" having their own site...
It's great for them... but it really hurts the "community!"
All of us could spend time navigating each of their site, and creating logins for each one... but it's just so nice to have EVERYTHING in one space.
And those who do branch off, always seem to come back anyway.
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True, but i think the teams go to their own homes b/c of the a**ho*es that do nothing but talk crap about their work without giving thanks...devs at are at their own forums can moderate can control the content themselves as they see fit....when this "Recognized Developer" thing (that XDA Admins have been working on) starts, then devs can control their releasing threads and keep trolling and unnecessary complaining to a minimum...s15 is right, everything should be all in one place...this is XDA, where all smartphone knowledge and MODs originate and come together
Just my opinion...
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I agree, but it seems to be a necessity these days. Also, it sucks having to post two topics xD
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I think everyone knows I respect your work a LOT. I know whats going on around XDA, but not so much behind the scenes. Can you help explain why it seems like a necessity?
Maybe if I understood that part of it better.
Is it really boiling down to spam in the threads/dumb comments?
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I think everyone knows I respect your work a LOT. I know whats going on around XDA, but not so much behind the scenes. Can you help explain why it seems like a necessity?
Maybe if I understood that part of it better.
Is it really boiling down to spam in the threads/dumb comments?
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It really is frustrating a lot.
Most of the time, haters will refuse to register on your site so that's automatically a filter on it's own. Next you have complete power to do anything & everything with your site.
I really wish everyone could stay on XDA but it seems like the amount of dumb we get is increasing daily and it's like there's no way out of it.
Also, people tend to think you're a lot more "professional" if you have a site.
^ you da man. Makes sense, completely understand coming from your perspective.
The reason for the increase in "undesirables" is just in the numbers. The more android catches on the more total people are going to visit xda. That's includes all types. From the seasoned developer looking to learn about android to the person that knows nothing but wants to learn to the person that, no matter what, will not search out even the simplest answer to the out and out troll.
Its just that odds are we hear the most from the latter two as the first two are more apt to search for their answer and ask questions when they truly can't find the answer.
I'm no genius with this stuff but I will at least take the time to learn what the stuff I'm doing to my phone is and how to undo it or fix it if needed. There are more and more people that don't our won't.
XDA Mobile
s15274n said:
I've come dangerously close multiple times on picking up a Nook Color, is it a viable tablet on CM7?
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I have enjoyed playing with mine. Had it about 2 weeks now, absolutely no complaints, totally worth the money. Its impossible to brick and CM7 is running great.
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s15274n said:
yeah, I know what you mean... I don't know that I would say it so harshly... but it seems like the Q&A and General sections have nothing new to offer lately... work is surprisingly slow today and I was hoping XDA would fill this void... it hasn't.
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here is a question to if you don't mind
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1039152
a response awaits.
=)
ya I agree its been quiet here for the last few weeks. I running bi-winning and haven't found the need to switch. I'm thinking about picking up a Hd2 just to tinker with it. I'm having flash withdraws also my wife won't let me play with her Mytouch4g.
With so many issues being moaned about, it's difficult to be motivated to actually purchase this handset, let alone be excited for it to arrive, fearing the disappointment
I thought it'd be a nice diversion to have a thread for those who are actually happy with their device to let others know that it's not all doom and gloom!
So, please, if you're happy with your handset, please let everyone know!
As per similar posts 110% happy .
jje
I am happy with my Galaxy S II.
Fab
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It is like in every other Forum or discussion, there is always way more negative feedback than positive. People just like to complain
JJEgan said:
As per similar posts 110% happy .
jje
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As the maker of the similar post our mate here refers to..i am 70-30 happy for now..It would have been the best phone i ever owned, easily if it werent for the misserable battery life..my galaxy s 1 had easily 2-3 times more..other than that, its lightning fast,plays flash content unlike anything i have ever seen on a mobile device its really thin and light and the GPS actually works...I am going to hold on to it till they release 2.3.4 ..if this does not fix the disgracing battery life i am going to have to return it..
I am very happy with my S2
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zirouk said:
With so many issues being moaned about, it's difficult to be motivated to actually purchase this handset, let alone be excited for it to arrive, fearing the disappointment
I thought it'd be a nice diversion to have a thread for those who are actually happy with their device to let others know that it's not all doom and gloom!
So, please, if you're happy with your handset, please let everyone know!
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So you want a subforum with positive topics? You need to check your reasoning.
EXAMPLE TOPIC.
TOPIC SUBJECT: My SGS2's power button works!!
TOPIC BODY: Just bought a SGS2 and as of day 1 my power button works!!
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1st reply: My SGS2's power button also works!! I've been using my SGS2 since last yesterday.
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2nd reply: I'm also reporting my power button works. yey!
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100th reply: After 1 week of using my SGS2's power button still works!!
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- It's actually stupid to report the expected working things in this forum. And much stupid to actually keep reporting it's still works after a few days.
For the price I paid ... 70% happy.
110% happy with mine. You tend to find people with no problems have little reason to post threads saying they are happy. Whereas the small percentage that have issues will post in an attempt to resolve their issues. This is basic human nature and common with any product not just the SGS2.
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zirouk said:
With so many issues being moaned about, it's difficult to be motivated to actually purchase this handset, let alone be excited for it to arrive, fearing the disappointment
I thought it'd be a nice diversion to have a thread for those who are actually happy with their device to let others know that it's not all doom and gloom!
So, please, if you're happy with your handset, please let everyone know!
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The best handset ever until... SGS 3
Techno79 said:
110% happy with mine. You tend to find people with no problems have little reason to post threads saying they are happy. Whereas the small percentage that have issues will post in an attempt to resolve their issues. This is basic human nature and common with any product not just the SGS2.
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Agree, and it seems even worse when people keep making daily new threads about those same issues.
Happy with mine, only slight - is the battery but with my spare one I really can't complain, when it takes 30 secs to switch and restart the phone.
Who's moaning? Generaly what I see is that people are very pleased with their handsets. It's just, like always, there are some minor points which need improving. Some of which can be done through software updates and for others we need to wait for the S3.
For everyone who talks about these problems, and just read this.
So what? Some might have a tiny yellow line when the brightness is low, and others may have a minor problem with the battery.
But now, think about how great and fast the phone really is, and stop thinking about these minor problems above you barely notice.
So yeah, I love my GS2. It awesome.
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There are a lot of complainers, but I'm not one of them. I love my sgs2!
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super happy . totally love it . From htc camp .
sg2 all the way
Have a browse through any forum on XDA and you'd struggle to believe anyone is actually happy with their handset. Unfortunately the internet is where everyone comes to moan and complain, be it about phones, tablets or socks!
99% of people turn to forums in search of problem resolution, so it is a disproportionate representation you see when looking through. Have you ever been compelled to come online and create a thread to simply say, "Phone is Awesome!"
You know what, I'll say my part......
"Phone is Awesome"
Regards.
I am 98% happy with this phone.
2% - I am coming from dell streak and miss the 5inch screen and already going back
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As the maker of the similar post our mate here refers to..i am 70-30 happy for now..It would have been the best phone i ever owned, easily if it werent for the misserable battery life.. its lightning fast,plays flash content unlike anything i have ever seen on a mobile device its really thin and light and the GPS actually works...I am going to hold on to it till they release 2.3.4 ..if this does not fix the disgracing battery life i am going to have to return it..
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This is my first Android experience. I upgraded from iPhone 3G which was, with the most current OS, not running properly.
If I use my Galaxy S2 like I did my iPhone, with all communications services running, then my phone lasts less than one day. Recharging the battery takes so much time as well, typically 3-5 hours time. I was at a street festival yesterday and wanted to take a few photos. I launched the camera app and it warned me I didn't have enough disk space (I also have an almost empty 32GB microSD card installed). There are no settings to save photos to the SD card by default. All of a sudden, today, the camera app is now saving photos to the SD card... couldn't it have chosen that option yesterday, when I wanted to take photos? For me the GPS isn't working that well.
Very happy camper here!
Yes I know wrong section. But this absolutely MUST go out to as many kernel devs as possible. I see alot of kernel activity today, and im just saying. BFS + dual core...
You even state its the wrong thread. Shame on you.
If you need it, make it.
we need members to post in correct areas!
Questions or Problems Should Not Be Posted in the Development Forum
Please Post in the Correct Forums
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"Alot of kernel activity..." ???
All I see is bnice's added today...
Glad to see his bc as far as kernels go we have been lacking lately. Remember in evo4g after source is out net and others would b on top of it within a week and have ton of stuff added.
Spoiled back then I guess. LOL
But to ur point about BFS, I tried those so many times and the battery like effect was never worth the slight performance bump over using cfs. Just my opinion on it.
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jeez guys... take it easy.
lol.
just a desperate plea for BFS.
I love the theory in BFS but CFS just feels far faster (and more immediate) IMHO.
Yuck, no we don't.
BFS has always produced terrible results on phones-- that usually result in very strange issues and battery problems. CFS all the way.
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Yuck, no we don't.
BFS has always produced terrible results on phones-- that usually result in very strange issues and battery problems. CFS all the way.
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+100000.
Maybe we can mark the "end of an era" here on XDA, when there officially are NO more silly BFS kernels worked on by Devs or even, possibly, demanded by users. These kernels were begun to be produced originally because of users' strange fixation on the 5% of "missing" battery life they were "getting screwed out of" every time they unplugged after a full charge.
The appropriate reaction by developers over the first complaint of this years ago SHOULD have been "so what? It's 5%. That's actually a safety feature that's there to protect your battery and to make sure you don't burn down your house.... ".
Why the whole "BFS!-here's-a kernel-that-will-keep-charging-that battery-until-it-glows-or-explodes" thing ever became a thing in the first place is beyond me.
Cmon guys... Here's our chance.
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I win the idiot award for this fantastic piece of work. I'm SO leaving it up, though... lol.
mazook98 said:
+100000.
Maybe we can mark the "end of an era" here on XDA, when there officially are NO more silly BFS kernels worked on by Devs or even, possibly, demanded by users. These kernels were begun to be produced originally because of users' strange fixation on the 5% of "missing" battery life they were "getting screwed out of" every time they unplugged after a full charge.
The appropriate reaction by developers over the first complaint of this years ago SHOULD have been "so what? It's 5%. That's actually a safety feature that's there to protect your battery and to make sure you don't burn down your house.... ".
Why the whole "BFS!-here's-a kernel-that-will-keep-charging-that battery-until-it-glows-or-explodes" thing ever became a thing in the first place is beyond me.
Cmon guys... Here's our chance.
<<This space for rent>>
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..... You mean SBC.
COME ON, Zook... I would hope you know the difference between the SBC (superior battery charging) kernels and the BFS (Brain F*ck scheduler).
....COME ON!!
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..... You mean SBC.
COME ON, Zook... I would hope you know the difference between the SBC (superior battery charging) kernels and the BFS (Brain F*ck scheduler).
....COME ON!!
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This is soooo funny.. ppl trying to write smart articles about BFS, without even knowing what it is hahaha.... F*ckin funny!
- Coz i just saw it in 3D with the Shooter -
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This is soooo funny.. ppl trying to write smart articles about BFS, without even knowing what it is hahaha.... F*ckin funny!
- Coz i just saw it in 3D with the Shooter -
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Edit.... didn't have my coffee when I wrote this.
Congrats Mo on 602!
dashrink said:
This is soooo funny.. ppl trying to write smart articles about BFS, without even knowing what it is hahaha.... F*ckin funny!
- Coz i just saw it in 3D with the Shooter -
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Haha... Sorry guys... I just woke up and saw my fatal error...
Go ahead, yuk it up..., (I would)...
Anyway, I read the OP wrong, obviously...
I was talking about an SBC kernel...
(That concept, I know I'm against, by definition.)
And I am familiar with the concepts of BFS/CFS... Honestly, though, I could never tell much of a difference between the two when using different variations of the same kernel on my EVO4G.... (I've got a CFS kernel with CM7 in there right now, I believe, that's never given me issues, though.
So, once again, sorry for the goof, sorry to the OP because my opinion was misguided..
I didn't read it correctly, and thought I knew what I was talking about.
Ps, thanks Chef, for taking up for me though, but, while I definitely know more about Android than I did a year ago, I still am learning every day, and that's because of everyone else that's here every day too.
Thanks for keeping me in check, fellas.
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I was totally just flipping you **** zook. Lol. I figured you where sleepy.. or drunk or something haha.
we need less wikipedia-search inspired technical threads.
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we need less wikipedia-search-inspired technical threads.
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I agree. I thought BFS was a British sports cable tv station.
Congrats Mo on 602!
cobraboy85 said:
we need less wikipedia-search-inspired technical threads.
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I agree. I thought BFS was a British sports cable tv station.
Congrats Mo on 602!
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here is the WikiPedia listings for BFS in case anyone is curious..
i personally like this one: BFS, a revival of the 1970s British band Blackfoot Sue
thats what we are looking for in a kernel right?? the revival of the 1970s British Band Blackfoot Sue.. yeah.. that sounds about right.. please devs give us some more Blackfoot Sue in our kernels.. please
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here is the WikiPedia listings for BFS in case anyone is curious..
i personally like this one: BFS, a revival of the 1970s British band Blackfoot Sue
thats what we are looking for in a kernel right?? the revival of the 1970s British Band Blackfoot Sue.. yeah.. that sounds about right.. please devs give us some more Blackfoot Sue in our kernels.. please
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Ahhhhh... touche.
Congrats Mo on 602!
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Ahhhhh... touche.
Congrats Mo on 602!
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honestly i thought it sounded like a british sports channel.. but i had to post some sort of sarcastic comment.. wikipedia - inspired techincal threads.. silly..
To Enable/Disable Fast Dormancy on ICS add the appropriate line to your build.prop. build.prop can be found in system/app folder. To edit just press on build.prop and then edit with a text editor. Place the edit at the very bottom of your build.prop.
Enable: ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=1
Disable: ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=0
You do not add the word Enable:/Disable: just add ro.ril.fast.dormancy.rule=#
I know I already posted this on another thread but a lot of people (not all) do not read the threads but still wanna know the fix so I thought it would be easier to start another thread and put it in the first post so nobody has to search for an answer. Fast Dormancy is believed to save battery life when disabled.
Just to make sure... I want it enabled... right?
JohnnyQ1964 said:
Just to make sure... I want it enabled... right?
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Disabled for better battery life.
Why can't we just get a simple on or off
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dude6595 said:
Why can't we just get a simple on or off
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Because of carrier support. If they use it, they assume you want it on. Its a networking implementation for traffic control.
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Because of carrier support. If they use it, they assume you want it on. Its a networking implementation for traffic control.
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I understand that....need a list cause one person says one thing and then another says something different about the same carrier
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How about a explanation of what it exactly is! Rather then post 2 build props...so a user has an idea what it is????
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How about a explanation of what it exactly is! Rather then post 2 build props...so a user has an idea what it is????
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Hi, my name is Google Search. I'm new around here... we should hang out sometime!
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...martphone_networking_and_battery_performance_
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&gl=US&ie=UTF-8&source=android-browser&q=fast+dormancy
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How about a explanation of what it exactly is! Rather then post 2 build props...so a user has an idea what it is????
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Cause I assume with all the threads about Fast Dormancy on XDA and many other sites most people have heard of it and know what it is used for. I can give an explanation but you can also ask for an explanation or simply do a google search. Here is a link about Fast Dormancy that gets strait to the point about why people wanna use this feature on the I717 Note. Read the last paragraph.
http://www.wirecast.org/r/awesome-product-highly-recommended/9924.xml
I know what it is.. but as you see you had a member ask if its supposed to be enabled or disabled...it just helps a little more when making threads to perhaps explain what it is.. or what it could do..Just helps the inexperienced users to learn..
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Why can't we just get a simple on or off
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On Android 2.#.# there is a few simple way to turn it on and off but on ICS its not as simple. I'm thinking about making a script so that it can be turned on and off at anytime.
Just thought I might add, the "huge battery improvements" have no credibility for the most part unless screen on times are included. 60+ hours means nothing if you're only getting like 2 or 3 hours of screen on time. OP or whoever has done this build prop edit should run a few tests with and without it enabled and show the great increase in screen on time, or most people will continue to be confused about this.
That being said, I can see where it can increase standby battery life, but I doubt that it makes much of a difference in screen on time, which is what matters most to anybody who has a charger on hand every night.
*******edit******** meant to post this in the bounty thread about fast dormancy where the op hasn't done anything but complain and make ridiculous claims without much proof.
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so I have made ridiculous claims with no proof huh..... and I have just complained. Well a big kiss my booty to you.
Please look here mr positivity starting with post 821. Then read post 823, 826, 827, 831 and more to come.
I will say it again, it works for me in my every day use. The pattern is the same and before it was 8 to 12 hours now its up to 30. If you don't believe it then dont bother with disabling it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170&page=83
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so I have made ridiculous claims with no proof huh..... and I have just complained. Well a big kiss my booty to you.
Please look here mr positivity starting with post 821. Then read post 823, 826, 827, 831 and more to come.
I will say it again, it works for me in my every day use. The pattern is the same and before it was 8 to 12 hours now its up to 30. If you don't believe it then dont bother with disabling it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1669170&page=83
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Actually, no, you still haven't shown anything regarding screen on time, which is arguably the best indicator of battery life. My note could get 30 hours bone stock if I barely used it. I get about 14-15 hours with almost 4 hours of screen on time in a usual day, and haven't touched fast dormancy. Show me your 30 hours with 4 hours of screen on time, and I'll eat my words.
In the mean time, you should probably grow up a little, as we like to keep things mature and civil around here. Also, you should probably get on with paying that 25 dollar bounty you posted; its only fair to porkenheimer and the guy who unbricked you.
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ok here we go... first I have nothing I need to prove to you. My every day use is generally the same. Prior to FD being disabled, I would get a total of 12 to 15 hours of batter between charges. Now its 30 hours plus. Thats good enough for me and anyone else who cares.
Secondly, I dont know of many phones (especially this size) that four hours plus of continuous on screen time is going to get there.
as for the bounty, I ask for a dev to come up with a solution and I will gladly split it between the two. But I find it funny that you and so many truly doubt its value so does that mean they really deserve a bounty.
And I might remind you, I am grown up but you were the first to make baseless accusations in a thread I wasnt even a participant in. Talk about an unfair fight or is that your M.O.
ta ta
P.S. do some thread searching on me. The same results were posted (even better) when I had my international note
P.S.S. purely ridiculous what goes on over trying to extend our battery life. You would think we are debating world peace. up...tight.........
I will once again charge over night and run a FULL cycle and then post. If you eat or dont eat I could care less but at least others can decide for themselves
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ok here we go... first I have nothing I need to prove to you. My every day use is generally the same. Prior to FD being disabled, I would get a total of 12 to 15 hours of batter between charges. Now its 30 hours plus. Thats good enough for me and anyone else who cares.
Secondly, I dont know of many phones (especially this size) that four hours plus of continuous on screen time is going to get there.
as for the bounty, I ask for a dev to come up with a solution and I will gladly split it between the two. But I find it funny that you and so many truly doubt its value so does that mean they really deserve a bounty.
And I might remind you, I am grown up but you were the first to make baseless accusations in a thread I wasnt even a participant in. Talk about an unfair fight or is that your M.O.
ta ta
P.S. do some thread searching on me. The same results were posted (even better) when I had my international note
P.S.S. purely ridiculous what goes on over trying to extend our battery life. You would think we are debating world peace. up...tight.........
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Again, you have said nothing about your screen on time with it enabled vs. disabled. For all anybody knows, you just got more conscious about conserving battery once you have it disabled on a device, and a little conservation can go a long ways in improving standby time if you have very little screen on time. Screenshots prove legitimate improvements of screen on time, of which, you have provided none. You can say your battery life increased as much as you want, but unless that screen on time improves, you haven't said much. And if you would have read my first post, I meant to post it in your thread but made a mistake. My intention wasn't to go behind your back. And as far as I'm concerned, my accusations are more based in fact from my experience with my past two androids and their forums regarding battery life than your claims of ridiculous battery life are. Screen on time matters because your screen is on when you're using your phone. Anybody who lives in a modern city with access to a power outlet could give a hoot about your standby time increasing, as that's most likely the case. And about the bounty, somebody did come up with a solution. And people question the legitimacy because they haven't seen solid, set in stone, improvements that are proven...hell, most people don't know what it is.
All I asked for was some screen time values, and a comparison of enabled vs. disabled with respect to screen time, that is all. You can either oblige, or I guess I'll try it myself. No need to argue and clutter up porkenhimer's thread.
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I am not going to oblige you. I think you are perfectly capable of running your own test. If you feel what I have given so far is inconclusive, bogus or usefulness to everyone else then your entitled to that opinion. This is still a place where others can try the same course I took and if they get a result then great. if they dont then its a failure.
But your decision to deride it unless it has an a-b is just that, another accusations. I have said at least three or four time for me I have seen major increases in the time between charges. Perhaps your basis of "we all know putting on a charger every night" is the sole argument why you think this isnt valid. Again, others are free to decide not you.
Thats it for me folks. Carry welchertc all you want but I think from my perspective I have said all I care to address with you.
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I am not going to oblige you. I think you are perfectly capable of running your own test. If you feel what I have given so far is inconclusive, bogus or usefulness to everyone else then your entitled to that opinion. This is still a place where others can try the same course I took and if they get a result then great. if they dont then its a failure.
But your decision to deride it unless it has an a-b is just that, another accusations. I have said at least three or four time for me I have seen major increases in the time between charges. Perhaps your basis of "we all know putting on a charger every night" is the sole argument why you think this isnt valid. Again, others are free to decide not you.
Thats it for me folks. Carry welchertc all you want but I think from my perspective I have said all I care to address with you.
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Not trying to take sides here but I have seen a small increase but too its only been a few hours and not a full battery run down...
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no sides to take mate. Try it and if it works great, if not you can easily turn it back on
I'll just be blunt and ask: what was your screen-on time during the 30 hours?
Screenshots would be cool, too.
I'm genuinely curious!
Okay I'm just posting this to help some of you out. Has your battery life been subpar compared to mm? Try this it gave me the best battery life I've ever seen. Even on mm
Btw bad is like 4hrs sot good is like 4.7-5 hrs and excellent is 6+
Steps:
1. Flash pure nexus the January 21 build only, the one after had worse battery
2. Flash Franco kernel
3. Get ex kernel manager
4. Get wingoku battery profile I'll attach it to this forum credits go to the owner not me obviously
5. Apply the profile in the ex kernel manager
Wait 2 days and hopefully your battery will be a lot better. That's my current set up.
I attached a screen shot of me getting 6hrs sot
Oh if you see a theme it's the "dna dark" substratum theme it's amazing I highly recommend you get it it's also free!!! 10/10
This fix shut down problems?
I use Chads uber ROM and faster angler kernel and the same governor profile
Try Moonpie MIUI8 Rom, based on MM, battery life is epic, i almost touched 8 hrs without greenify and without any tweaks.
hany0u said:
This fix shut down problems?
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Custom kernel and governor profile won't fix early shutdown issue.
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Custom kernel and governor profile won't fix early shutdown issue.
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Thx ;(
Sot is useless. You might be getting 6 hours because you have brightness all the way down or might be in an area where your service is always full bars and so on. Many factors go into it.
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Sot is useless. You might be getting 6 hours because you have brightness all the way down or might be in an area where your service is always full bars and so on. Many factors go into it.
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Wow no really? That's why i wasn't definitive. I gave you relative performance numbers. Why is there always someone like you on every battery thread coming and saying ermergerdddd sot doesn't matter. Dude please stop. I told everyone in the post saying pre tweaks i got 3hrs sot after which i got 6hrs consistently so TAKE IT AS YOU WILL obviously i didn't change my phone habits or cell reception the only thing to change was what I flashed that's why i said hey try these tweaks i didn't say you WILL GET 6HRS FOR SURE i did it improved for me and might for you guys now get over yourself
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Wow no really? That's why i wasn't definitive. I gave you relative performance numbers. Why is there always someone like you on every battery thread coming and saying ermergerdddd sot doesn't matter. Dude please stop. I told everyone in the post saying pre tweaks i got 3hrs sot after which i got 6hrs consistently so TAKE IT AS YOU WILL obviously i didn't change my phone habits or cell reception the only thing to change was what I flashed that's why i said hey try these tweaks i didn't say you WILL GET 6HRS FOR SURE i did it improved for me and might for you guys now get over yourself
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But to be honest, logical, and to the point, he is right. SOT is meaningless. Either battery life improved or not solely for you. I can turn data off, brightness down and just read on a PDF for hours straight right after unplugging and get 9 hours SOT on stock. Should I write that the 6P gets 9 hrs SOT? It varies immensely based on usage, you'll be surprised how much variability there is.
It's like a car, you can get 30mpg or 10 mpg for the SAME car. In terms of "tweaks", there has been build.prop "tweaks" that supposedly improved battery life for some people only to find out that the build.prop tweaks were actually not working. Placebo is powerful. Same thing for overclocking for some devices that actually never worked but people swore up and down that they felt the speed difference before the dev announced that the overclocking never worked.
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But to be honest, logical, and to the point, he is right. SOT is meaningless. Either battery life improved or not solely for you. I can turn data off, brightness down and just read on a PDF for hours straight right after unplugging and get 9 hours SOT on stock. Should I write that the 6P gets 9 hrs SOT? It varies immensely based on usage, you'll be surprised how much variability there is.
It's like a car, you can get 30mpg or 10 mpg for the SAME car.
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Like i said why do you guys try to sound like you know better than everyone else? So you can claim to have the most e-peen knowledge? LMAO chill tf out, OBVIOUSLY i dont turn my brightness all the way down and look at a blank screen. I watch youtube, browse fb on chrome, read articles, go on whatsapp all the time etc normal user type things check google+, i have 3 gmail accounts synced etc like no special ****
like i said you dumbass, 3 hrs before hand and after tweaks 5.5-6 hrs. How about you stop trying to talk **** and actually maybe take my advice your attitude might change if your battery life gets better LMAO
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Like i said why do you guys try to sound like you know better than everyone else? So you can claim to have the most e-peen knowledge? LMAO chill tf out, OBVIOUSLY i dont turn my brightness all the way down and look at a blank screen. I watch youtube, browse fb on chrome, read articles, go on whatsapp all the time etc normal user type things check google+, i have 3 gmail accounts synced etc like no special ****
like i said you dumbass, 3 hrs before hand and after tweaks 5.5-6 hrs. How about you stop trying to talk **** and actually maybe take my advice your attitude might change if your battery life gets better LMAO
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There's no reason for you to take it so personal. I'm basically sharing my experience with Android phones since Android's induction. Being uncivilized and spewing out names isn't helping your argument.
Involving SOT in battery talk is useless as it has no measurement for improvement for others. You're basically saying that you DOUBLED your battery life and implied that everyone should expect 2x battery life. No, that's not how it works. You either have increased battery life, or not which is what you should say. But involving metrics like SOT is useless. You don't install an intake on a car and say " I have 40mpg on my car now"....
I emphasized on placebo because there were lots of "tweaks" back in the day that did absolutely nothing that lots of people actually fell for. Just making you aware of that....Now if you want to continue going back and forth with name-calling and attacks on other users instead of focusing on the actual argument, this isn't the place for it.
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There's no reason for you to take it so personal. I'm basically sharing my experience with Android phones since Android's induction. Being uncivilized and spewing out names isn't helping your argument.
Involving SOT in battery talk is useless as it has no measurement for improvement for others. You're basically saying that you DOUBLED your battery life and implied that everyone should expect 2x battery life. No, that's not how it works. You either have increased battery life, or not which is what you should say. But involving metrics like SOT is useless. You don't install an intake on a car and say " I have 40mpg on my car now"....
I emphasized on placebo because there were lots of "tweaks" back in the day that did absolutely nothing that lots of people actually fell for. Just making you aware of that....Now if you want to continue going back and forth with name-calling and attacks on other users instead of focusing on the actual argument, this isn't the place for it.
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You seem to be confused, you are nothing. It doesnt matter what you think lol i put this post out here out of the straight goodness of my heart because i know a lot of people have had **** battery since nougat and im posting this for them if you dont want to follow my advice please by all means exit yourself from this thread and let other people atleast attempt my steps
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You seem to be confused, you are nothing. It doesnt matter what you think lol i put this post out here out of the straight goodness of my heart because i know a lot of people have had **** battery since nougat and im posting this for them if you dont want to follow my advice please by all means exit yourself from this thread and let other people atleast attempt my steps
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Just FYI, what you have in the OP is what some people already get on stock...
But have at it.
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Just FYI, what you have in the OP is what some people already get on stock...
But have at it.
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LMAO thread title "My personal best battery life setup"
can a mod ban this dude lol? What a troll.
zee24 said:
LMAO thread title "My personal best battery life setup"
can a mod ban this dude lol? What a troll.
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Great, then you can appreciate "my personal" input as well. I was merely trying to get you out of the "SOT" before others give you an explanation as to why it's worthless. You can either understand it or not, but if you want to take the low road and resort to insults and abnoxious "LMAOS", then that's your prerogative. Insulting others trying to help you understand and name-calling will in fact get you banned. Just FYI.
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Great, then you can appreciate "my personal" input as well. I was merely trying to get you out of the "SOT" before others give you an explanation as to why it's worthless. You can either understand it or not, but if you want to take the low road and resort to insults and abnoxious "LMAOS", then that's your prerogative. Insulting others trying to help you understand and name-calling will in fact get you banned. Just FYI.
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You really need to stop Bro. He's just trying to help people out and there is no reason to start saying this and that.
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You really need to stop Bro. He's just trying to help people out and there is no reason to start saying this and that.
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I'm sorry, but if I see someone that misunderstands something or is wrong, I feel obligated to either help or correct the person. In this case, I was attempting to help him understand the significance of SOT since he used that as a measurement in the OP (ex: 4hrs SOT is bad) before people start thinking that something is wrong with their phone because they are getting 4hrs SOT. Purpose was not to attack him, say he's wrong, or whatever else you, or he, may think.
The same way he's trying to help people is the same way I'm trying to help him, which made the thread way more "eventful" than it needed to be for misunderstanding the point I was conveying.
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I'm sorry, but if I see someone that misunderstands something or is wrong, I feel obligated to either help or correct the person. In this case, I was attempting to help him understand the significance of SOT since he used that as a measurement in the OP (ex: 4hrs SOT is bad) before people start thinking that something is wrong with their phone because they are getting 4hrs SOT. Purpose was not to attack him, say he's wrong, or whatever else you, or he, may think.
The same way he's trying to help people is the same way I'm trying to help him, which made the thread way more "eventful" than it needed to be for misunderstanding the point I was conveying.
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I understand that and yes I get that you are right in some ways but you two could've just left it and now the thread is full of this petty drama. I'm not trying to attack you or anything I'm just saying if you two disagree then just keep it to yourself Have a good day!