Do you guys think this phone will have an outstanding developer support like the SGS2 has? Will Samsung release the bootloader stuff and all the good code from the start like the SGS2?
Samsung has recently built up a good reputation with the development community, it would be foolish for them to mess that up with their new flagship device. I'll be picking one up coming from the Evo 3D which hasn't had much going on for it as far as development so I'm excited to see how things play out.
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Samsung has recently built up a good reputation with the development community, it would be foolish for them to mess that up with their new flagship device. I'll be picking one up coming from the Evo 3D which hasn't had much going on for it as far as development so I'm excited to see how things play out.
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This is my same boat. I will be purchasing this device, and will be handing my MyTouch 4g Slide or HTC Doubleshot off to a family member... the phone has almost 0% development! I can only dream of a device that I will own with countless options. We don't even have a official CM7.
I miss having the option to flash pure AOSP, MIUI, CM, CM Supers, Always hated sense but it was nice to have the options that I did on other HTC devices I have owned.
Hopefully we rake in the devs. I really miss a good kernel dev as we have none really ... BUT.. to bigger and better things!
Development will be much much better, exynos is not new anymore for the developers , so we can expect some great things
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Development will be much much better, exynos is not new anymore for the developers , so we can expect some great things
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Plus it will be the most anticipated quad core and Sammies first go at a Quad Core beast. I see soo many epic things for our device!!!!!
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Yeah, I'd be surprised if Samsung locked the bootloader and given the amount of interest with the device so far I would expect a huge community following. (unless of course Samsung releases a dog. ---not gonna happen--- )
From the Samsung Vibrant...
I got burned with my Samsung Vibrant. I'm not sure if it was Samsung or T-Mobile who dropped the ball, but there were no official upgrades past Froyo. Since they never released the source to anything related to GPS, our latest AOSP/MIUI ports have horrible GPS performance and GPS-related wakelock/battery drain problems despite the best efforts of some really talented devs.
I've heard stories about HTC being either better or worse, depending on the day, but I don't have firsthand knowledge, so I'm not making my final S3 vs. OneX decision until there's a good AOSP port.
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I got burned with my Samsung Vibrant. I'm not sure if it was Samsung or T-Mobile who dropped the ball, but there were no official upgrades past Froyo. Since they never released the source to anything related to GPS, our latest AOSP/MIUI ports have horrible GPS performance and GPS-related wakelock/battery drain problems despite the best efforts of some really talented devs.
I've heard stories about HTC being either better or worse, depending on the day, but I don't have firsthand knowledge, so I'm not making my final S3 vs. OneX decision until there's a good AOSP port.
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That was definitely T-Mobile. The (international) Galaxy S was updated to Gingerbread by Samsung, but carriers are idiotic and decide to change everything about the phone and then take forever to update it.
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That was definitely T-Mobile. The (international) Galaxy S was updated to Gingerbread by Samsung, but carriers are idiotic and decide to change everything about the phone and then take forever to update it.
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No. Only T-Mobile is retarded. So bad
Which is adding to my pros about buyin a int. Phone.
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No. Only T-Mobile is retarded. So bad
Which is adding to my pros about buyin a int. Phone.
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Verizon is pretty bad with carrier updates as well (see: almost every US Motorola device)
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Verizon is pretty bad with carrier updates as well (see: almost every US Motorola device)
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Yes both are terrible..
Back on topic
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Killa357 said:
Samsung has recently built up a good reputation with the development community
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No they haven't, they neglect the dev community, just ask the cm9 dev's.
We need Gokhan on board. Surely
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Development will be much much better, exynos is not new anymore for the developers , so we can expect some great things
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Why do you think so? The platform will still be very different. I don't see what previous developers could be able to take with them from the S2.
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Why do you think so? The platform will still be very different. I don't see what previous developers could be able to take with them from the S2.
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I believe that's a good point - I also think in that point it also brings up the fact that - this is
A) probably the most anticipated phone I've seen in a while.
And
B) its the worlds first major quad core beast
So this will be a huge step from dual core kernel/dev work. Just like developers had to get used to the dual core kernels when they were used to single core devices way back when.
When u bring this up I think it means more development will come for the fact that its a major stepping stone as well as those who use the SGSII right now. Do u think this is valid?
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I believe that's a good point - I also think in that point it also brings up the fact that - this is
A) probably the most anticipated phone I've seen in a while.
And
B) its the worlds first major quad core beast
So this will be a huge step from dual core kernel/dev work. Just like developers had to get used to the dual core kernels when they were used to single core devices way back when.
When u bring this up I think it means more development will come for the fact that its a major stepping stone as well as those who use the SGSII right now. Do u think this is valid?
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Yes. The processor will be a quite different beast in terms of kernel functionally; if Samsung goes forward with their governor we can forget about adding any if the traditional ones. Each core will be hotpluggable plus there have been reports that each core will run on its own frequency, making this an symmetrical multi CPU design. I highly doubt there's anything similar at all which could be used, so basically in terms of platform specific things, this has nothing to do with the S2. I don't even understand what most of you understand with development, for me it means low level kernel changes in how the device will function, not silly ROM development or modding.
Initially, I think it also depends on the price of the phone, Samsung have some competition right now, the One X is only $600 at Expansys. I can imagine the SIII will be $800+.
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I got burned with my Samsung Vibrant. I'm not sure if it was Samsung or T-Mobile who dropped the ball, but there were no official upgrades past Froyo.
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If you buy a carrier locked device, or if you device is older than 9months, you should expect that. With that said, I run CM9 on my Vibrant and it was great.
I read Sony provides some of the most firmware updates for their phones.
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I read Sony provides some of the most firmware updates for their phones.
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this might be because they have the most security flaws.... you know Sony
This is why I buy unsubsidized now on.
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this might be because they have the most security flaws.... you know Sony
This is why I buy unsubsidized now on.
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Don't count on that either. It took a very long time for Google to even release ICS for the Nexus S, a developer device.
Would the verizon version be left in the dust since it runs a Dualcore s4?
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what i care about is future support
what ive seen is a lot of HTC love
will the S II be loved for a long time ?
for example cyanogenmod supports old HTC phones
and its always updated
but when u look at the Galaxy S it seems just "meh"
should i really care about this ?
or just wait for a HTC duel core
thanks
qwerty warrior said:
what i care about is future support
what ive seen is a lot of HTC love
will the S II be loved for a long time ?
for example cyanogenmod supports old HTC phones
and its always updated
but when u look at the Galaxy S it seems just "meh"
should i really care about this ?
or just wait for a HTC duel core
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If you don't mind having a rubbish screen its up to you. So far the galaxy s 2 has proved that it is a beast in day to day use, just as much as it is in benchmarks.
Coming from an s1, the community was always pretty good. I mean there was a tone of work done.
I mean the s2 already works well stock, something strange for most android phones.
Who can predict the future? I would hope that there will be good support. I see many devs are excited about this. Visit the development section to get a glimpse of the work being done. I think good for a newly launched phone. But it's your decision afterall.
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Who can predict the future? I would hope that there will be good support. I see many devs are excited about this. Visit the development section to get a glimpse of the work being done. I think good for a newly launched phone. But it's your decision afterall.
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ill buy one then
Hello,
I just want some opinions on how future proof people think the sgs2 is.
The prices have dropped a bit.
but im mainly concerned over the new hardware that is coming in early 2012, as well as the galaxy nexus as an alternative..
Thanks
its one of the fastest smoothest phones available today it can support Ice Cream sandwich and who keeps a phone more than a couple of years anyway the early quad cores are coming soon so it's good for a couple of years reckon I'll get a an sgsIII when my contract runs out next august depending on specs etc
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Hello,
I just want some opinions on how future proof people think the sgs2 is.
The prices have dropped a bit.
but im mainly concerned over the new hardware that is coming in early 2012, as well as the galaxy nexus as an alternative..
Thanks
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The Galaxy S II is pretty future proof, one of the reasons I bought it.
I remember one of the first reviews mentioned it as a 'plus'. Its future proof.
One of the reasons is it contains so many things, like bluetooth 3.0, DNLa, MHL (HDMI), Wifi Direct and a lot of crap of wirless options.
Second it has still one of the best dual core processors. While quad core processors might start showing up in phones in 2012, everything is still being optimized for dual core. At the end of 2012/beginning of 2013 it may be smart to buy a quad core phone. The idea is this dual core processor wil be good for at least another 1,5 year.
The screen is nice, its no HD 720p resolution but that doesnt mean our WVGA res isnt future proof.
Anyways... Ice Cream Sandwich has been officialy confirmed by Samsung. And after that, we have XDA that will put out perfect ROMs with the future Android versions.
Anyways... I would say its future proof. As long as you dont mind not having 'the latest of everytjing'. Because sooner or later better phone's will come out (that doesnt mean the S II will not be excellent anymore!)
Nothing is future proof... Better question is, what will hold its resale value.
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I think that SG2 is best you can buy at the moment and for the next 1 year it will be one of mostly wanted phones......
The only thing it lacks for future proof is an HD screen and a quad core. However, SMAOLED+ is the best looking screen technology out right now and Exynos is the fastest dual core SoC.
Basically, the SGS2 will be good for another year but after that I would consider upgrading.
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I also like to think that A LOT of geeks decided to upgrade to this phone when it was released. It was hyped a lot before release, and it just said BOOM! It is now the best android mobile out there.
-Because of this this exact mobile is going to have an incredible amount of fans out there developing roms, tweaks and whatnot...
It sure will be future software wise, and if you really think about what the hardware specs are good for - I don't think you will disappointed in the next two years or so
Thats my opinion anyway...
This phone is like htc desire in his time, it was relased 14.5.2010 and now year and a half from then is still great phone so i think that SGS2 will be great for next year and more....
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jukosic said:
This phone is like htc desire in his time, it was relased 14.5.2010 and now year and a half from then is still great phone so i think that SGS2 will be great for next year and more....
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The desire users have now all run into it's limitations, mainly a huge lack of internal storage space. Only tweakers will start using a2sd+, so most people will just live with the limitations.
Android 2.2 is also one of those limitations, only tweakers will be able to upgrade to anything higher.
And physical buttons that lose functionality as well, not to mention the crappy camera!
So, it's not about what Mr. XDA can do with the phone, it will be whatever Joe/Jane average will be able to do with it 12-18 months from now compared to new smartphones what will determine the value.
I was youst saying about hardweare specs, desire had the best HW spec for his time and he last for quite some time now....
2013, sgs2 still going strong ICS is old news... JB now, lol...
Why resurrect this thread?
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its not future proof at all in fact official software updates will end after 4.2.1/4.2.2
and roms such as cyanogen mod will not upgrade to the next android version since samsung doesn't provide support
Nothing is future proof... We're always looking for and creating something new... This is a good phone, the only thing that can out do it is hardware... Android is running out of things to apply or implement into phones... They didn't even come up with a new name for 4.2.x... I look forward to see what exotic dessert they'll name the next, lol...
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I look forward to see what exotic dessert they'll name the next, lol...
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I thought Key Lime Pie name for the upcoming release was already known, was it not?
It's funny, digging up a thread from 2011 about how future-proof this phone is... By now, I think the time has shown that in 2011 it was quite future-proof indeed. I'd say at the moment it's still very capable device, which in the world of tech and electronics is truly amazing.
Alright, so I saw that SingTel has only a few smartphones available for now and I would like to ask if I should go for this phone. Obviously its cheaper than the Galaxy S II and should be umder my budget. My question is:
Will it be worth it to buy even in next year April. Cos I'm not sure of what is going to be developed on the phone and what are the things that would bbe developed on this phone for (like MIUI ICS and ICS based ROMs or even ICS Update)
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Alright, so I saw that SingTel has only a few smartphones available for now and I would like to ask if I should go for this phone. Obviously its cheaper than the Galaxy S II and should be umder my budget. My question is:
Will it be worth it to buy even in next year April. Cos I'm not sure of what is going to be developed on the phone and what are the things that would bbe developed on this phone for (like MIUI ICS and ICS based ROMs or even ICS Update)
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Unless I am seriously stupid (high probability) your statement about when you are planning to buy it was ambiguous, and needs clarity. So you are asking if you should buy now, or would it still be worth buying in April?
The evo 3D has good hardware, it is no longer bleeding edge or cutting edge in terms of its hardware or performance but currently is still very much a device that has good performance and value for its price.
Now, in April if the reason you are asking if it is still worth buying because you have some partial or full discount upgrade and want to know if it is still worth buying in comparison to the current or future device releases before or around April, then I am going to suggest differently. I have not read or searched for any up coming devices, but without looking I think I could accurately say with confidence that there will be a device released before or around April that has better performance than the evo 3D, and also would come stock with ICS. If that is the case that ends up being true then I recommend you wait for one of those devices. Just my opinion of course
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Unless I am seriously stupid (high probability) your statement about when you are planning to buy it was ambiguous, and needs clarity. So you are asking if you should buy now, or would it still be worth buying in April?
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I'm confused on the same thing! (So either we both are stupid or it really doesn't make any sense) I would pick HTC over Samsung because I'm not a fan of the AMOLED screens. The vividness of them is nice, but almost seems too fake to me. Defiantly not better then the qHD and HD screens. And if you compare the communities, I think we here in the EVO 3D community have a good strong bond and a lot to offer. If your looking for a phone now, I'd go with the EVO 3D, if your going to wait till April, then id hold off.
Support TrevE! Fah Q CIQ!!
Whoops sorry. My english standard is too low to understand I guess
I don't want to have anything a very high specs since I don't really require as much juice as 1.5Ghz, and just wanted to know if by April 2012 the phone would get the ICS Update from HTC, if so I would go ahead and get it as the top priority now for considering to buy a phone is whether or not the phone would be getting the ICS Update.
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Whoops sorry. My english standard is too low to understand I guess
I don't want to have anything a very high specs since I don't really require as much juice as 1.5Ghz, and just wanted to know if by April 2012 the phone would get the ICS Update from HTC, if so I would go ahead and get it as the top priority now for considering to buy a phone is whether or not the phone would be getting the ICS Update.
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That's ok, I understand English as a second language must be difficult. Thanks for trying either way! I have not read any reports on whether or not it will get ICS officially or not, but it will definitely get ICS as a custom ROM before then. I believe the drivers for the evo 3D are being released at the end of December (this is what is currently holding back its development for the 3D). If you are willing to root and flash a custom ROM then I would say yes ICS is coming before April.
Alright, I am not here to discuss the hardware of the HTC Amaze. I am in the workings of getting a new phone obviously my choices lay between the Amaze and Galaxy S2. I have had an android phone since the G1 and now have the G2. My question (and I am not hating) even though this phone is in the early stages of its lifecycle, do you guys think that the dev support for this phone will be like it is for the G2?
I realize the hard work the devs are doing for this phone (xboarder) and like, I appreciate all the work they do, cause without them we would have nothing. If I knew half the things you guys do about the android file system I am just wondering what the possibilites are?
Please no flaming or trolling, very disrespectful.
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Alright, I am not here to discuss the hardware of the HTC Amaze. I am in the workings of getting a new phone obviously my choices lay between the Amaze and Galaxy S2. I have had an android phone since the G1 and now have the G2. My question (and I am not hating) even though this phone is in the early stages of its lifecycle, do you guys think that the dev support for this phone will be like it is for the G2?
I realize the hard work the devs are doing for this phone (xboarder) and like, I appreciate all the work they do, cause without them we would have nothing. If I knew half the things you guys do about the android file system I am just wondering what the possibilites are?
Please no flaming or trolling, very disrespectful.
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I think that most members around here would agree that the devs are waiting for ICS to be released for the Amaze before they start doing some hardcore stuff.
The ROMs are here, don't get me wrong but we only have about 3 or 4 devs by my count that are pushing out all those ROMs.
Xboarder himself has got like 4 to 5 that he already has out or is working on.
I'd like to believe that when ICS hits we would draw other devs.
Although that's not a for sure thing.
Either way, having it announced that ICS WILL come to the Amaze is enough of a reason to pick it up as your first choice, right?
To sum it all up we're waiting for ICS and true S-Off.
I'm sure with those two things in hand ROMs will take off.
Hope that helps.
I totally agree on the count of ICS, a lot of the devices are going through the same "dry spell." It does help, it nice to have a little reassurance, you know?
Thanks
The Amaze has great dev support (albeit from one, but he's awesome) but I don't think it'll be anything like the G2 was. The G2 had two main things going for it: first, it was a stock Android experience. Second, Steve Kondik (cyanogen) had told many people that he was going to be using the device as a daily driver. So many devs flocked his way. Let's just say the only reason I have the Amaze right now is because my G2 stopped working and I didn't know where to get another one. It was all the phone I needed at the time, and was trying to hold out for the Nexus.
I think the GS2 has better support for now, but that should change once ICS drops. If you really want a ton of development support, I say go for the Nexus. Me, I'm happy with the Amaze and QuickSense!
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The Amaze has great dev support (albeit from one, but he's awesome) but I don't think it'll be anything like the G2 was. The G2 had two main things going for it: first, it was a stock Android experience. Second, Steve Kondik (cyanogen) had told many people that he was going to be using the device as a daily driver. So many devs flocked his way. Let's just say the only reason I have the Amaze right now is because my G2 stopped working and I didn't know where to get another one. It was all the phone I needed at the time, and was trying to hold out for the Nexus.
I think the GS2 has better support for now, but that should change once ICS drops. If you really want a ton of development support, I say go for the Nexus. Me, I'm happy with the Amaze and QuickSense!
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Good point, I wish I could wait for the Nexas, but I am selling my G2 to a family member and I told them I would this month. <-Dilemma
What made you choose the Amaze, if you don't mind me asking? I love my HTC phones, it would be different having a Samsung.
I made the same lineage, g1 to g2. And tbh I couldn't imagine using a phone that isn't htc (quality wise), I know the dev'ing will never be @ the g2 level, but we have some awesome devs and a strong device with promise of ics.
The zero lag shutter and unified sense 3.0 ui was an easy sell for me. If Samsung had produced the all white ver. sans that terrible touch wiz at the time of my purchase I might have made a different choice.
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Good point, I wish I could wait for the Nexas, but I am selling my G2 to a family member and I told them I would this month. <-Dilemma
What made you choose the Amaze, if you don't mind me asking? I love my HTC phones, it would be different having a Samsung.
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It compared them side by side in the store and for all the hype of the SAMOLED+ screen, it kinda reminded me of the original iPhone - less pixels stretched over a bigger screen. The Amaze looked great. PPI is where it's at!
I would rather have had the Samsung from a development standpoint (no locked bootloader and such) but the screen in the GS2 sucked balls.
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It compared them side by side in the store and for all the hype of the SAMOLED+ screen, it kinda reminded me of the original iPhone - less pixels stretched over a bigger screen. The Amaze looked great. PPI is where it's at!
I would rather have had the Samsung from a development standpoint (no locked bootloader and such) but the screen in the GS2 sucked balls.
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^agreed on both counts^
Which is why I'm still considering the Nexus... no locked bootloader BS and it has an even higher PPI than the Amaze (over 300 vs ~250). The best of both worlds!
I for one believe development is doing great for the lack of open sources. The thing is that the amaze is really great straight out of the box that little development actual needs to be done except we all want custom kernels which would help our battery life and heck make it even smoother.
A lot of other phones development section has a lot of support but not all the roms and kernels being developed are being used, so you shouldn't compare and say since some phones has a lot of roms it has better support. I for one want quality over quantity.
But honestly once things are fully released for the amaze, developers will come. However, not many would want to compile a ROM or kernel from scratch like x and faux are working on. remember this phone is barely 2 months old. You'll see a huge expansion by January.
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I made the same lineage, g1 to g2. And tbh I couldn't imagine using a phone that isn't htc (quality wise), I know the dev'ing will never be @ the g2 level, but we have some awesome devs and a strong device with promise of ics.
The zero lag shutter and unified sense 3.0 ui was an easy sell for me. If Samsung had produced the all white ver. sans that terrible touch wiz at the time of my purchase I might have made a different choice.
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Can't you just install Launcher Pro (or similar)? That should replace Touchwiz.
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Can't you just install Launcher Pro (or similar)? That should replace Touchwiz.
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TouchWiz and Sense both are throughout the entire OS. Replacing the launcher only really fixes the homescreen.
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TouchWiz and Sense both are throughout the entire OS. Replacing the launcher only really fixes the homescreen.
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Ah. I thought the problem was with the homescreen arrangement. I acutally like the Sense enhancements like the extra widgets & etc.
Last month I was forced to decide between an Amaze and a Galaxy S2.
I also had a G1 and a G2. I used the vibrant for a while but i preferred my G2 mainly b/c of the keyboard. I played with the Amaze and the S2. I preferred the amaze because i would choose sense over touchwiz. And what really drew me to the amaze was the qHD resolution. If the s2 had a qHD resolution, i think i'd still be deciding what i want. Hope this helps
Do you guys think well get the s3 apps like the camera and the s talk and eye tracking and all that like would it be possible or is the stuff based on hardware cause in my opinion since the s3 lte is going to probably be the same processor of the note I feel the note with the s3 futures will be either a very good competition or actually be a better phone for those who can use big phones
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Knowing Samsung history its very doubtful.
Would it be possible fir a developer to somehow get the futures from the s3 and put them on the note?
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Do you guys think well get the s3 apps like the camera and the s talk and eye tracking and all that like would it be possible or is the stuff based on hardware cause in my opinion since the s3 lte is going to probably be the same processor of the note I feel the note with the s3 futures will be either a very good competition or actually be a better phone for those who can use big phones
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If anything the GS3 would be using the S4 snapdragon which is the MSM8960 paired with the adreno 225, unlike the Note which uses the S3 snapdragon MSM8660 (IIRC) paired with the adreno 220. So not exactly the same chips...
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Officially? No. Unofficially? Yes.
This is Samsung's way to get people to purchase new phones. In other countries outside the US, 2 year contracts dont exist which frees customers to upgrade phones as often as they wish. Releasing new features for new phones keeps people buying the newest Samsung phones. Here in the states, its a different story.
FOR THE MOST PART, this is one of the few areas where Apple has done it right, firmware updates are generally speaking fast and frequent giving new features and functionality nearly every month or two. Yes, there are exceptions (most recently, Siri) but Apples' business model is based on the US cell model.
HOWEVER, this doesnt mean these features wont be ported by the community, just as Siri is now available unofficially for just about all Apple ipads, iphones and itouches.
Of course, this is my opinion, all speculation.
I wondered the same thing as the OP. And I agree with littlewierdo. I think it may be possible for these new features, which are mostly software, to be ported over to the Note. Only time will tell.
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I doubt Samsung will ever port any of the new software features over from the SGS3 they just sent out ICS and premium suite to the carriers I think thats all the software upgrades we'll see from Samsung to our phones. But I do think we have some really great Devs on here that will port some of the SGS3's software features to our devices in Mods or Roms. As to when this will happen I'd guess not til late fall 2012 after the SGS3 source code is out and the Devs have had enough time to figure out and write those features for our device. But like I said we have some great Devs on here so who knows they keep surprising me perhaps will see those roms/mods earlier.
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... they just sent out ICS and premium suite to the carriers I think thats all the software upgrades we'll see from Samsung to our phones....
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Id really like to know where the notion that Samsung has sent ICS to carriers came from. To my knowledge, there has been nothing officially stated that I know of except that Samsung stated Notes would BEGIN seeing ICS in Q2 of this year, but ICS will likely roll out STARTING in Korea and move to different regions over time, as has been the case with EVERY roll out Samsung has done. The Captivate didnt see Gingerbread until nearly a year AFTER it started rolling out in Korea.
I could very well be wrong here but based on Samsung's track record for releases and the fact that there has not been anything official that I know of besides a vague statement by Samsung about a Q2 update, I dont see anything happening. It might feel like something is coming but we dont even have a ready for prime time leak yet...
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Officially? No. Unofficially? Yes.
This is Samsung's way to get people to purchase new phones. In other countries outside the US, 2 year contracts dont exist which frees customers to upgrade phones as often as they wish. Releasing new features for new phones keeps people buying the newest Samsung phones. Here in the states, its a different story.
FOR THE MOST PART, this is one of the few areas where Apple has done it right, firmware updates are generally speaking fast and frequent giving new features and functionality nearly every month or two. Yes, there are exceptions (most recently, Siri) but Apples' business model is based on the US cell model.
HOWEVER, this doesnt mean these features wont be ported by the community, just as Siri is now available unofficially for just about all Apple ipads, iphones and itouches.
Of course, this is my opinion, all speculation.
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you are right.. Koreans are very trendy people. My cousin and his friends change phone every 6 months or so.
There is that "official" update link that Samsung mobile usa on twitter keeps referring people to, but that only shows one device with official update as of now.
As far as the OP question, it is very likely that we will see someone port these over since most of the new software uses the same base hardware (i.e. NFC in conjunction with wifi direct, or front facing camera for eye tracking, etc). I realize that the cameras may be different or the exact model of the NFC chipset or other hardware may differ, but it is software and can be changed to utilize our device specific hardware. Since these new programs were built on existing technology(that the note shares) it is highly likely to eventually see these incorporated.
It will take talent and time, but it is very likely that in later stages of development we will see potential unlocked... Or unwrapped, lol
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I'm sure someone will be able to port it at some point, but I wouldn't count on it happening anytime soon, and probably not even this year. I'm not basing this on a ton of information, but I've been following the Note forum for awhile since I decided to hold out for the S3 and as far as I know there still isn't a great leak without bugs for ICS, which was pretty much "guaranteed" by all the forum members as soon as the Note released in the US.
I could be wrong, but that's just what I've seen.
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I'm sure someone will be able to port it at some point, but I wouldn't count on it happening anytime soon, and probably not even this year. I'm not basing this on a ton of information, but I've been following the Note forum for awhile since I decided to hold out for the S3 and as far as I know there still isn't a great leak without bugs for ICS, which was pretty much "guaranteed" by all the forum members as soon as the Note released in the US.
I could be wrong, but that's just what I've seen.
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Well once the full official update comes out, we will be golden. Would be nice if CM9 supported our phone and not just the international.
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