I have noticed on my XS today that on the front of the cap where the engraved xperia logo the plastic has sort of been rubbed so its now shiny and doesn't look matte. I thought it was just a bit of dirt or sweat from my hand but after wiping it, its still there.
I keep it in a screen protector and case, the only contact that part of the phone has with something else is when it's in my pocket, so is this the jeans causing it?
Rather annoying tbh, anyone experienced this?
I don't remember sony said that the phone is scratch proof
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I wouldn't expect it to be scratch proof, but JEANS!!! Come on, that's a joke...
Mines off for repair but I didnt notice anything on the bottom bezel(also the only "exposed" bit on mine.
Are your jeans very loose? Its a big phone and I tend to wear regular or skinny fit jeans so the phone moves very little, maybe with very large pockets it would rub more.
With 1 week of usage, my XS is really good in this point.
No problem here, my case fully protects the phone I guess
Not that loose, I think its more from the repetitive taking phone in out of pocket as it rubs against the inside of the pocket.
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I have noticed on my XS today that on the front of the cap where the engraved xperia logo the plastic has sort of been rubbed so its now shiny and doesn't look matte. I thought it was just a bit of dirt or sweat from my hand but after wiping it, its still there.
I keep it in a screen protector and case, the only contact that part of the phone has with something else is when it's in my pocket, so is this the jeans causing it?
Rather annoying tbh, anyone experienced this?
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I to have this problem. On mine, it's the smallest part on the left hand side of the plastic. Like you I thought it was some dirt or something but it wont rub off, so i'm assuming that its the crap plastic. Quite annoying though, had my x10 for 2 and a bit years and the only mark on it is where i dropped it and it took some of the plastic of both bottom corners.
Oh, and i don't ware particularly tight or loose jeans. But the pockets are not the same material as the jeans are they so could it be that?
I know that jeans can have a sandpaper effect.
I first thought when reading the title, that your phone had damaged your jeans
Because that is possible too (talking out of experience with another SE phone with less rounded edges)
@dclark16
Yeah its quite a joke, I've also just noticed that the corners and edges of the phone are a dark shiny black...
@kaizokan
Ahaa, yes that reminded me of my K850i which made a big white L shape in the top corner of the jeans pocket
Its impossible that jeans can damage any hard thing.
Maybe little sand in your pcoket or something?
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um...the jeans fabric is pretty abrasive, close to sandpaper.
So yes, nothing is scratch proof if you scratch it against a sandpaper.
The matte finish is a joke on this. Not durable at all, scuffs etc way too easy. I had mentioned a few weeks ago that under light use and good care that there were shiny areas appearing already. I have had other devices for 3 months that have looked better than my S after 3 weeks. (My X10 was far more durable)
Sony hasn't bothered to answer me at all, not that I really expected them too.
I have order a couple of more cases, etc but I will also be ordering a new bottom cap and battery back for when I resell it.
To be honest, I have seen some reviews of the One X that has the same issues, although not quite as bad.
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The matte finish is a joke on this. Not durable at all, scuffs etc way too easy. I had mentioned a few weeks ago that under light use and good care that there were shiny areas appearing already. I have had other devices for 3 months that have looked better than my S after 3 weeks. (My X10 was far more durable)
Sony hasn't bothered to answer me at all, not that I really expected them too.
I have order a couple of more cases, etc but I will also be ordering a new bottom cap and battery back for when I resell it.
To be honest, I have seen some reviews of the One X that has the same issues, although not quite as bad.
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Definitely agree with this, after all the noise sony made about how great the anti stain coating is...
I should take an eraser to the finish and see what happens... I'll bet it polishes it.
It's the same on mine and on the back cover around the camera. Shiny marks from the belt bag and a leather pouch. So the coating is very easy to get marks.
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Same thing happened to me.
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Definitely agree with this, after all the noise sony made about how great the anti stain coating is...
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well the anti-stain coating does not mean anti-abrasive.
the point is understand the texture of jeans fabric is very coarse and act like a sandpaper.
The plastic case is to cry..
I have an black one and its now like an 2 years used phone..
Also the backplate is cheap o plastic..
But the screen is ok :thumbup:
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The plastic they use must be the usual glossy stuff but with a matte coating (the way matte LCD panels are made).
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After 20 falls , uncountable number of bumps... , keys and phone together ...
And finally today!!! My screen got scratched but just a teeny bit!
And its on the screen protector!!
All i can say is this phone is tooo durable...
Tell me your experiences with screen getting scratched
My back cover got a (very) little clicky after some drop from table to hard floor, just bend it hard with hand and no clicky now, lolz. The screen protector is covered with scratch now, not a problem.
But the soft touch started to peeled off on the corner now. I have another white back cover but it's not look as good as the black one (really wish for a glossy black one) anyone know how to convert the soft touch one to glossy?
The soft touch on my black jack (i607) in old days: bruised as hell but never peel off.
Me too facing the peeling of the back cover at the corners. Can anyone suggest from where i can buy another back cover ?
me too. im looking for someone who sells a back cover for my xperia ray
I got my camera sensor scratched (sort of, it looks like it lost a layer of plastic in a few spots), the back cover losing it's matte surface in the corners, and some of the paint in one of the metallic corners and I take maniacal care of it and never dropped it once.
I also had 2 white pixels and could not get it replaced because unless the screen has FOUR bad pixels on the same line they are not supposed to replace it as it's not defective.
That being said, do you think it's more likely to win at the national lottery or to have 4 dead pixels on the same line out of 409.920 pixels?
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Me too facing the peeling of the back cover at the corners. Can anyone suggest from where i can buy another back cover ?
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Back cover no, sorry; but after you get one, a gel cover like this one is handy. I'm very satisfied with it.
But i will become yellow after a time .
I have the same just buy one made in leather it cost 3 dollars with free shipping on ebay
I have buy back cover on ebay,.. original.
yeah I have a scratch on the screen, even is have a screen protector
(in whisper) isn't this the development forum?:silly:
WELL theres no General Forum for The Ray ...
Just two little visible scratches in the protector screen, and some more "invisible" (they're only visible at the sun).
Yes, very durable phone. I love it.
I have a little crack on my screen, don't even know what it's from..
actually i'm an ROTC Cadet which means all the things in your pocket usually bumps to stone whenever senior officers give you exercise. my ray never had scratches on the screen, but a lot of scratches at the back cover, i must say that this beautiful monster is really durable.
if you wear it inside a case there should be no need for other protections
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I had a few drops but was smart enough to have a rubber-plastic mixed cover for it. It has saved me from quite a few heart attacks.
I have dropped it a couple of times but the phone has not received any damage... but some days ago I noticed that the crystal of the camera sensor has some blur on it because of alcohol splatter (I don't think these marks could be removed ) and also two red pixels on the center of the screen that are only noticeable when I set a black background... other than those the phone is perfect
WELL theres no General Forum for The Ray ...
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Exactly, I can't see our phone in the general forum for mini/pro/active so...
OnT: Mine have managed too stay pretty shiny but I almost missed the bus going to work one day so I had to run my a%# off and suddenly I feel a jerky motion from my headphones and the music stops. Man did that phone fly or what, I think it was 10 feet between the phone, battery and backpiece :/
Just put everything together and it was like new besides a scratch on the screen (and I don't even use screenprotection )
Still, looks pretty good though.
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That looks like a screen protector to me on the second picture.
yeh looks like screen protectors
Lot's of scratches... I think the screen isn't so good what iphone 4 had but still better phone than any apple/samsung
Since owners have had the phone a for a bit longer now, I would like some feedback on those screen protector choices you have made.
Basically what I want is the common things:
*As invisible as possible.
*Smooth feeling to the touch is preferred.
*easy to apply is a plus
*I prefer to not remove the sony one already there.
So I was looking at M.glass, other ebay glass ones and then my usual choices like Zagg HD the case friendly version for the plasticky ones.
So what is working out for you guys?
I bought one off of ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/261323055474?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649. It feels nice when you put it on. I got something stuck under it though so if you are installing one make sure your phone is perfectly clean. I like the feel of it better than the normal screen. It was hard to install well for me but probably not as hard as I made it out to be. I had it perfect but removed it to get the thing from under it out and that is where things went wrong.
Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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i have the Armorz Stealth Extreme R on mine. a bit on the pricey side but i love it. I also have one of the ebay ones for the back glass. both were put on over the stock sony screen protectors. on the back piece, i actually soaked the back of the screen with a spray bottle before applying it. It was a pain in the ass pressing out all the bubbles, but it looks flawless after a bit of elbow grease.
I have Glass-M front+back for mine and I absolutely love it. (Removed factory ASF as well). My notes
* It is really smooth. Like freshly made toffee it is so smooth it feels faintly greasy (but it is not). On an almost completely flat table the phone will slowly slide across the surface by itself due to a slope you can't see (be careful)
* I believe touch sensitivity is improved. Finicky DPI sliders in Paranoid Android setups give me no trouble now - before jumping 239,243,241 when I really want 240 dpi exactly. Pencil also works perfectly as a stylus.
* I believe screen brightness and clarity are improved. Subjective and probably due to removal of the ASF (and its invisible tiny scratches)
* Extra glass makes the phone a bit thicker but also much stiffer and I liked this. I also have a Z1 and I miss how solid that phone felt in my hand. Ultra always felt a bit too flimsy (bendy). I also had to widen the slot on my DK30 (sandpaper glued to a flat stick aka big emory board)
* Getting alignment correct is tricky - glass-M slightly smaller than the phone screen edges. Mine went on crooked but I can live with that.
* No dust or bubbles in mine. Used the shower trick of old school film photographers. Long hot steamy shower will effectively clean the room of even tiny dust particles.
* Removing the ASF is a truly harrowing experience (see the other thread). Halfway through you *will* have an "Oh God what have I done" moment. Still totally worth it.
Hope my ramble helps someone. In summary really happy with the Glass-M. :good:
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Thats my problem too when installing myself..always some dust gets in somehow. I am thinking on trying to install inside the bath tub or something after running the how water for like 10 minutes to see if that helps...seriously lol
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Haha yeah I took it off and it made it way worse... ended up being a waste of money which has been happening a lot since my phone had been sent back for repair. I have wasted so much money. But yeah I bought another one and got it a couple of days ago but have not opened it. I will install it right when my phone gets back.
So when you guys go dual glass (front and back I mean) do you just carry it without a case? I mean, when I remove mine from the case it just feels SOOOO good to hold, like the case makes it feel not as ergonomic even though you will think is just one flat object
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So when you guys go dual glass (front and back I mean) do you just carry it without a case?
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Glass-M Front+Back and I carry mine "au naturel". Four weeks of sliding in and out of pocket + keys, coins, cig. lighter etc with no marring or scratches. Seriously it feels way better in my hand than the factory finish: smoother, bit thicker (2x 0.25mm glass + adhesives is a lot on a 6.5mm phone), and far more solid. Absolutely love its handling after placing the extra glass.
Downsides are metal sides will eventually pick up scratches and dents and also I don't like the proximity sensor cutout: messes with the Sony design and makes it look like everybody else's iPhone/Samsung/whatever with slots cut into the front of the phone. I don't believe the cutout is necessary for that sensor to work. (could be wrong about that)
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Glass-M Front+Back and I carry mine "au naturel". Four weeks of sliding in and out of pocket + keys, coins, cig. lighter etc with no marring or scratches. Seriously it feels way better in my hand than the factory finish: smoother, thicker (2x 0.25mm glass + adhesives is a lot on a 6.5mm phone), stiffer and more solid. Absolutely love its handling after placing the extra glass.
Downsides are metal sides will eventually pick up scratches and dents and also I don't like the proximity sensor cutout: messes with the Sony design and makes it look like everybody else's iPhone/Samsung/whatever with slots cut into the front of the phone. I don't believe the cutout is necessary for that sensor to work. (could be wrong about that)
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yup. I carry it without a case now. feels super classy. picked up some weight from the dual glass but I'm not worried about scratching the screen compared to using the phone fresh out of the box.
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Ah you guys are going to make me join the nudist colony!
Well I got too many cases already on the way but they will live in the car to be used when required, but for the most part I love the feel of it naked....and we are still talking about phones just before someone locks the thread
Does the glass go all the way to the edges of the phone? Like if I use one of those cases that go just above the screen (if those will even fit which I doubt) will it make the glass come off?
I guess I should just not use a case but gosh I bought a couple of nice ones already LOL
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Does the glass go all the way to the edges of the phone? Like if I use one of those cases that go just above the screen (if those will even fit which I doubt) will it make the glass come off?
I guess I should just not use a case but gosh I bought a couple of nice ones already LOL
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incipio feather worked with front glass. it worked with back glass too but feels super snug.
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Thats a very nice looking case...I just wish they would have left the charging port open..kind of strange they did not make a cut for that :/
Well, I guess I use it without a case at home and at work right now anyway since with my case it wont fit on the DK30 but still, if I were to use a single cable, that case wouldnt let me charge.
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Thats a very nice looking case...I just wish they would have left the charging port open..kind of strange they did not make a cut for that :/
Well, I guess I use it without a case at home and at work right now anyway since with my case it wont fit on the DK30 but still, if I were to use a single cable, that case wouldnt let me charge.
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I modified the case to leave opening for magnetic charging port. some use a dremel. I used a razor blade. came out looking how it was supposed to be, but since I got the back glass, I don't use it anymore. lol
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yeah maybe I bought cases for decoration now LOL We shall see.
I just thought of one possible issue if I get the Glass-M vs getting a single one for the screen only....I want to get one of those extended batteries case combinations.
So if I get that, I am pretty sure it wont fit with the Glass-M but maybe it will fit if I only get one glass for the front?
I'm getting my glass-m protectors today. I'll post my opinion tomorrow some time
Cool!
I got one of the front glass only protectors from ebay. Still waiting for it to arrive to see if I can deal with it.
I should have gotten the Glass M but I dont feel like modding the DK30 which I will probably have to do anyway
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Cool!
I got one of the front glass only protectors from ebay. Still waiting for it to arrive to see if I can deal with it.
I should have gotten the Glass M but I dont feel like modding the DK30 which I will probably have to do anyway
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Got my Glass-M protector yesterday put it on this morning. It works great. Its' pretty comparable to the spigen tr I had on my S4 maybe a littler thinner. It includes the front and back glass protectors, rear camera cutout was perfect. The front appears to cover the camera. There is a cutout for something to the left of the camera but I'm not really sure why. Maybe I am misunderstanding the layout? Luckily it laid down well enough that its not causing any distortiong.
It actually feels nicer and seems more fingerprint resistant than the stock bare screen with its ASF film. It's an expensive kit but considering both front and rear protectors are glass it seems like its worth the money to me.
Shipping was also really fast considering it came from hong kong....about 5 days.
So I ended up trying this glass one:
Protector
The feeling and quality of the image is so pristine compared to my previous regular plastic like protector!
I did have to sand paper the DK30 a bit to make it fit but all is good. I still can use all my cases if needed and I left the plastic protector for the back part.
So overall, I think I will keep this one because with the dual Glass M ones, I dont think my cases will work nor the Charging case combo I want.
With the size of this phone and the Explosion proof glass...I feel like Captain America now
Sk this makes me very sad but i can't be sad about it as it is ENTIRELY my fault, so i got a z ultra eventually fell in love with it's the design everything, it was my baby as i already own a z1 i had already planned to peel the anti shatter proof film off it just makes it look cleaner with no logo, my z1's film was as simple as that to peel off.
i had also managed to scratch this film when writing on it with a pen AS you are supposed to do, anyway i expected a quick and easy carefully push a needle under then drag as easy as that.
When i tried i got a big chunk that i was able to use to peel it off, so i tried then it just dissappared i wonderd what happaned, so i kept on trying untill i finally managed to discover that the film litterally breaks into pieces as i had already begun the freak of nature operation i couldn't stop.
So i spent over 4 hours carefully pushing a needle under every bit of film not breaking it, once i was done i was faced with IMPOSSIBLE glue so i started panicking, but i read aceton does the trick so i asked my dad if we had it we didn't but he had a different slightly stronger color removal solution, so i used it and the glue came off quite well the screen was shiny after getting most of it off but the edges (too scared to go there as this stuff melts plastic)
Anyway i cleaned my phone with a tiiiny bit of soup and some fairly warm water, good as new untill i noticed with horror that i had managed to make 3 small tiiiiny line scratches only visible under a light and when the screen is off.
So here comes the panick, i wish i didn't do this i really do, but how was i supposed to know they changed this? and how the heck do you scratch a dragontrail glass screen using a normal needle, i did use some moderate maybe hard force and slowly scraped the screen but there was a huge layer of glue ontop of it.
I feel like crying but i DID not know, makes me think sony did this just to punish people removing this film
Yep from all accounts it is a right dog to get the ASF off our Ultras, the best way I have seen is a little heat (hair-dryer?) a razor and acetone.
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Yep from all accounts it is a right dog to get the ASF off our Ultras, the best way I have seen is a little heat (hair-dryer?) a razor and acetone.
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what do i do about the scratches my ocd is crying and panicking will a liquid glass protection make the scratches invisible i am so sad
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what do i do about the scratches my ocd is crying and panicking will a liquid glass protection make the scratches invisible i am so sad
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Pass.
You could try not to try and catch the light on the screen when it's off
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what do i do about the scratches my ocd is crying and panicking will a liquid glass protection make the scratches invisible i am so sad
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Think not the liquid glass protector will not make the scratches gone .....but you could do one thing order a new asf from aliexpress put it carefully on cause it's very difficult here's a video of z1 ............http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toIEvqsPSHY
and after that don't know mess up your phone bootloader or something hard brick it and return it to sony they will give you a new one that's what I did when I scratched my Z1 while removing the asf.........you had to have very careful while installing the asf it is very difficult procedure i mess up two asf's the third one was golden for me ...................
If the OP would have read upon removing the ASF, he would have known just how difficult and time-consuming it is. I personally refuse to take on this task and just put on a high quality screen protector on.
here comes the panick if only life was nicer to me
it seems to me that the glass has moved theres a tiny opening at the bottom you can fit a needle in it it is between the edge of the glass and the frame
so the horror story of accidently pushing down that strong liquid comes to mind but from what i remember i pretty much stayed away from the edges as i didn't want the plastic to melt so WHYYYYYYYYYYYY
it seems the waterproofing is still intact though i have cleaned this phone several times without noticing any problems but yeah i am about to lose it i am i really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really AM!
please tell me it's supposed to be open a little at the bottom compared to the top where it's sealed shut
here comes the tears i WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THIS KIND OF THING IF I KNEW THEY HAD CHANGED EVERYTHING!
the film was scratched from using a pen on it
WHY DO THESE THINGS ALWAYS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO ME WHY CAN'T THINGS GO RIGHT IN MY LIFE EVER EVER EVER EVER GO RIGHT
i hate myself so much my poor baby i loved that phone i got it on sale so it wasn't a 600$ loss but a 200 or so
i hate my life in more ways you can imagine
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here comes the panick if only life was nicer to me
it seems to me that the glass has moved theres a tiny opening at the bottom you can fit a needle in it it is between the edge of the glass and the frame
so the horror story of accidently pushing down that strong liquid comes to mind but from what i remember i pretty much stayed away from the edges as i didn't want the plastic to melt so WHYYYYYYYYYYYY
it seems the waterproofing is still intact though i have cleaned this phone several times without noticing any problems but yeah i am about to lose it i am i really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really AM!
please tell me it's supposed to be open a little at the bottom compared to the top where it's sealed shut
here comes the tears i WOULD HAVE NEVER DONE THIS KIND OF THING IF I KNEW THEY HAD CHANGED EVERYTHING!
the film was scratched from using a pen on it
WHY DO THESE THINGS ALWAYS HAVE TO HAPPEN TO ME WHY CAN'T THINGS GO RIGHT IN MY LIFE EVER EVER EVER EVER GO RIGHT
i hate myself so much my poor baby i loved that phone i got it on sale so it wasn't a 600$ loss but a 200 or so
i hate my life in more ways you can imagine
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http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org
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http://www.suicidepreventionlifeline.org
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you have no idea how right you are
Post a pic of the bottom edge. My glass is ever so slightly lower and to the right
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Post a pic of the bottom edge. My glass is ever so slightly lower and to the right
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that gave me a little hope but no i think i ruined the waterproofing and it is now waterdamaged the speakers sound odd with static the screen and the rest works fine but it seems to me the speakers are different
i loved this phone so much and look what i did too it i highly doubt the z2 ultra will be as beautiful as this one this one was perfect and i had it then i had to ruin it
So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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So i have read rants on the Z1 having self breaking glass, and alittle on the ultra. Most of the threads on the ultra though have been, slight to moderate abuse (sat on)(backpack of stuff) causing breaks. Not the classic Z1 of "took phone out of front pocket". My normal routine is only having the phone in my front pocket when going from my desk to the car. Other than that its on my desk or left in my car (i hate walking around with a phone in my pants).
Mines coming this week and i kinda want to take some preventive steps, and wondering if sony really is replacing "not blown to bits" screens under warranty in at least the USA.
I hear it comes with a factory "screen protector" that you should leave on, and put another screen protector on top of it. Is that true or is the factory protector just the stock "tabbed" film that should be removed right after opening the box? I have a front/back screen protector coming, but wanted to know if i should peel off the factory one first.
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one year in, and no glass breaking
your routine won't break the phone, i'm sure
screen protector, i have one on top of the anti shatter film provided with the phone, both front and back, and both scratched to hell, but too lazy to replace
Definitely put a aftermarket screen protector over the anti shatter film. The ASF is too soft, but is a pain in the arse to remove by all accounts
I've had my ZU for about 9 months now and have dropped it 3 times onto concrete, once without any screen proctor or case, the other two times has been with a wallet/flip case. The last time I dropped it the case even broke - still the screen is intact.
I too thought it wont happen to mine, till it really did, of course it's not self breaking glass for no reason, but more likely the most logical reason I could think of is, the stress accumulated from the daily use, a bit of pressure while in pocket, or backpack, along with the heat / cold temperature, whatever other bull crap from regular use, over a period of time, that stress cause the glass to be broken.
I pretty much babied my Z Ultra, have back casing, Glass M on the front, Skinomi on the back, never dropped, all in like new condition. Then last Sunday I was on my bike ride, put it inside my backpack, along with my wallet, then couple hours later, took it out from my backpack only to find the glass, under the M Glass screen protector, under the original ASF, has a hairline crack, and pretty much as good as brick, since it wont register any touch, I can see a call coming in, but cant answer it since the display doesnt work.
OP said it happens with Z1, I read that it happens with Z2, and it happens with my Z Ultra, so I think it's just something on their glass quality along with their full glass design, it is impacting a small number of them, not all, just small number, but still the problem indeed does exists.
But I still buy another Z Ultra in a heart beat without much thinking, as a matter of fact already got another one from expensys, with the price is so cheap now, the smoothness, the crisp display, the waterproofness, it still worth every penny.
Mine broke in the pocket, and so did others.
It can break. But with that said, the risk yours will break in the pocket with no abuse is small.
Sony aren't very consistent in handling these cases. Sometimes they get it fixed on warranty, sometimes they're not. But if you get a first negative answer just send in a complaint and they might turn around (as in my case).
I just got mine back. I had the asf removed on the previous one, I'm not taking it off now. And I'm doubling up with tempered glass protectors.
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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There is so much wrong with this post.
boystuff said:
i personally recommend removal of the anti shater layer, if you live in humid climates, as it can cause the residual moisture and oils from your fingers to cause key presses. i had a bad issue with this till i spend an hour with a razor blade removing it.
some people also claim that removing the layer voids your warranty, but i had the phone replaced about a month back with my extended warranty and had no issues with replacement regardless of having the film removed.
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i live right on the equator, and have not had any problems with this (i also use a screen protector on top of the antishatter film). do you mean to say by removing the anti-shatter film, the glass doesn't pick up any fingerprints and oil? a screen can only be oleophobic for so long.
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
luceri84 said:
To those who have had the screen crack in their pockets: were you using a hard case to provide rigidity to the device?
I also just received a Z Ultra and read through the massive threads on Sony's forums on these problems. It just seems the device is so thin it has too much flex in the pocket. I'm even hesitant to use the leather flipstyle case if it doesn'tt provide enough rigidity.
I'm thinking maybe the aluminum bumper case with GlassM protectors on both sides would work nicely together. Hopefully the aluminum won't degrade the signal quality too harshly.
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Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
nightanole said:
Those hair thin aluminum bumper cases wont do squat, the thick glassM m shields wont do squat. The device is just too long and think. Your best bet is to treat it like a full size tablet. Dont sit with it in your pocket, dont put it in your bag without being in a separate compartment. The poor thing is like 1/4" thick and made out of aluminum and glass. I still dont know why they choose this glass. I can take my droid incredible with gorilla glass and pound the screen on the corner of a desk over and over, no scratches. This sony phone just doesnt have any flex for the glass.
I just through an iLLumiShield on the front and back so i can throw it on the table and not worry about scratches.
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But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
luceri84 said:
But if flex is the issue then wouldn't a solid metal frame that doesn't bend around the perimeter of the phone rectify such concern?
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Yes but the aluminum bumper case is very flimsy stamped aluminum. You would need something with zero give like aircraft grade. An aluminum or plastic shell would be the way to go, but That bumper case is just to prevent chiping of the sides, and give a mm lip when laying the phone on its front/back.
I just use a rubber back cover and THAT'S IT. No problems for me. And yes i keep it in my jeans' pocket most of the time. It does hinder my movement a little though
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The better way to deal with the size is not to put in jeans pocket. In winter, jacket pockets I guess are ok. In summer, I guess the best way would be to buy a camera bag or something for this. I think that would solve this problem.
I just got the phone and I am kinda surprised to see how thin it is. Definitely not a phone you should stress too much.
I've had my Mist Blue XC for less than 3 days. I've done nothing but lay it on flat surfaces being very careful with it until a case I ordered arrives. Now I noticed there are a ton of fine scratches on the back of the phone.
Brilliant move choosing to use glossy plastic on this thing, Sony...
Sorry to hear that, what case did you order ( link please) are there any third party cases , beside the original ones ?
Can you please post photos of the scratch? Probably have to use screen protector on both sides. And then use a case
Hard to shoot the scratches. They are really fine scratches on the gloss coat I assume.
I ordered this cheap case on Amazon until something better comes out.
https://www.amazon.com/Xperia-Compa...a+x+compact+case"&refinements=p_85:2470955011
Strange , the link you posted is states" X Compact Case" but the pictures are from the Z5 compact Ringke Fusion
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Strange , the link you posted is states" X Compact Case" but the pictures are from the Z5 compact Ringke Fusion
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Pictures have been updated on the item now. Doesn't look like the previously advertised case (top and bottom edges are open). I ordered one, and I'm not impressed the item changed.
Yeah, Not happy they changed the images but it will do until something better comes out.
uchosen said:
I've had my Mist Blue XC for less than 3 days. I've done nothing but lay it on flat surfaces being very careful with it until a case I ordered arrives. Now I noticed there are a ton of fine scratches on the back of the phone.
Brilliant move choosing to use glossy plastic on this thing, Sony...
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yeah... it does seem to scratch rather a bit too easily. At least (so far on mine) the screen doesn't have the same scratchability as the back:fingers-crossed: . Maybe sony will release some carnauba based polish when support folks start suggesting that the little fine scratches will just buff out...
so anyone could get a glass panel for the back of this phone? anything to put there might do the job actually
Glossy plastic is highly underrated. It looks good and is light and cheap. Won't shatter like glass, less slippery than metal, and the inevitable scratches are...quickly and cheaply repaired to bring the surface to like new condition. How? take a minute to apply a little wax polish with a soft cloth and rub until dry.
I have used Novus Fine Scratch Remover (#2), but I would think car wax would work just as well. I removed some marred patches from when I dropped the phone on hardwood floor and it skidded a bit, and not only did those patches disappear, but so did the fine scratches.
I don't think this would be wise for the screen, however, as it would probably harm the oleophobic coating.
This is why I put stickers on the back (and eventually sides) to protect the phone, and also make it less slippery in my hands, you can see some photos here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=74286145&postcount=7