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Just got off phone with Motorola and they confirmed the Photon has a LTE chip installed! I called sprint and they said it didn't. Somebodies lying, my bet is sprint.
My guess is that the Motorola rep is confusing that for 4G in general. I highly doubt the Photon has LTE.
Now, I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if it does, but I imagine that would have been in the FCC certification.
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I bet Motorola is lying... Because they want you to buy their product.
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I highly doubt this, but my buddy works at the mobile division in Libertyville IL (My town! Woot woot Google! ) and he works on the development of the LED flash for all the phones cameras. Im sure he will have insight about this, ill post back what he says.
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
I doubt they would have added an expensive piece of hardware just for the heck of it. The fact that it isn't touted as a feature to"future proof" the phone leads me to assume it isn't there.
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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27s said:
The build.prop in system has alot of refrences to an LTE radio...but then again it has quite a few refrences to VZW as well....
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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They probably just took the Atrix, redid the outer shell, modified code to work with Sprint, then threw it on the shelf.
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The hole in that thought is the matrix is on ATT(GSM) which is different from VZW in more ways then one.
The VZW references is due to the you can roam in VZW and a possible launch of the phone on VZW.
It seems that this phone has a lot of Q's surronding the radio freq's it uses so we are going to need to find a good tear down and look to that for answers.
Ok so in case people didn't know, LTE uses sim cards for the 4G. But it can't be in the photon, sprint wont have it for some time.
My buddy at Motorola replied to me "wimax". So I guess its not LTE ready and that moto rep is misunderstanding that sprints 4g is different. After all, this is the first moto android phone on sprint
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Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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ORam78 said:
Who cares though...by the time Sprint uses LTE the MoPho will be obsolete and something different will be in your hands.....
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Amen to that
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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i'm too lazy to search youtube, has anyone done a teardown of this phone yet? I mean its not magic, if there is a LTE chip inside you'd see it. Granted I'm not willing to doante my phone to such a process but I mean phones break, you'd think someone who broke their Photon had to have tore it apart by now to see its guts.
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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http://androidforums.com/motorola-photon-4g/398558-video-teardown-photon-4g.html
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All I can say is the Photon is Built like a brick shi%house
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What about us Sprint users roaming data using Verizon's LTE network. Now wouldn't that be sweet? Just dreaming out loud! lol
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If that's the case why aren't you on Verizon?
Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period. There is no argument here, find it for yourself. Sprint will have LTE but not for awhile, as for the Photon working on it, who knows, but I am damn sure that it is capable of it. If you are asking a Sprint Rep any questions about a phone, 97.38782% of them don't know much about them, yes there are a few who actually do their homework on each and every phone they come across but that is few and far between. ( And in case you work at Sprint and you are reading this, don't take it personal, I'm just saying that most reps sell phones, they don't study them and know them inside and out) As for Motorola, who knows, it all depends on who you talk to, but I would believe one of them over a random Sprint rep who 'sells' phones for a living, being that Motorola actually built the thing.
But all you really need to do is plug it in and look for yourself.
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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Now that is interesting indeed
It just might have a LTE radio. Maybe Sprint's plans are starting to show up in current and future phones? Here is an excerpt:
If Sprint were to tap into Clearwire’s LTE network it wouldn’t gain any additional coverage beyond its current 4G footprint. It would gain additional capacity, but it would come at a price. Since Clearwire’s LTE wouldn’t even cover existing WiMAX markets completely, Sprint will need to deploy dual-mode WiMAX and LTE devices. That’s already a tall order for device makers, but Clearwire is using an unpaired spectrum configuration for LTE, meaning Sprint will need LTE chips not only for Clearwire’s 2.5 GHz frequencies but in a time-division duplexing (TDD) mode that no other operator uses in the U.S.
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You can read the whole article here: http://connectedplanetonline.com/3g4g/news/sprints-4g-predicament-0823/index.html
Maybe Sprint actually has a 4g plan?
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Plug the photon in and look in device manager, it has an LTE modem period.
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There may be some logic to this from Moto perspective...
It 4g and it a world phone...it suports cdma and gsm...
But is it also the first "4g" "world phone"? having both wimax and LTE ?(you got the sim like verzion LTE phones need)
So for Moto one hardward build for all world markets...and would also make it one hell of a development phone for google android to test everything on
Would the EVO 3d and Samsung Galaxy 2 people crap if true....
A phone with all these radios cdma, gsm, wimax and LTE would be hacker heaven
Who knows could be source of unlocked 4g issues that just the Photon seem to have ... that bootstrap has an extra radio to set up
===One other thing I recall Sprints Touch pro 2 "world phone" was not certified for GSM by FCC for US so radios were not listed on FCC doc...but it had them
Other thing in all the Photon "tear down" ive seen...ive never seen the chips because of how the lable sits in the battey compartment covers the chips...you would need to destroy the phone to see
Why does t Sprint just continue to build their wimax network? Merge or buyout clearwire and continue with what they already got?
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Dont even get me started
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Dont even get me started
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Ok just stay out of it then lol
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Dont even get me started
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im with you. we beat this horse enough!
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because sprint has their own lte network? lightsquared was just a regional addon
Thanks, Shabbs! Yay, hopefully it gets LTE Approval, do you know if it has already?
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The point of lightsquared was to broadcast lte from satellites. Was essentially going to give them near 100% coverage in the us with the flip of a switch.
If they are out of the picture then we are back to getting 4g from towers which will take years. To build out.
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i read from some recent articles, Lightsquared has been stating a pretty solid argument (in my opinion) that the first test was purposely rigged, a board member on fcc or somethin was from a GPS company, they used old out dated gps devices that was being interfered with because of careless manufacturing (faulty design) fcc took it to courts/congress to help investigate while also redoing the testing of their network and gps interference
i probably left a lot out ill try to find links
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Sounded like a Bull**** deal
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Wimax is limited next to Lte
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Wimax is limited next to Lte
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Sprint is limited
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Why does t Sprint just continue to build their wimax network? Merge or buyout clearwire and continue with what they already got?
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Haha because Wimax blows and I would rather rely on Sprint to build out a 4G network than Clearwire to execute a 4G plan. We all know how Clearwire did with Wimax and lets just say its not complete. Also I would rather have Sprint on a 4G standard that is compliant to every other major carrier and follows the 3GPP standard and plus LTE is much better than Wimax.
Also I am tired of the 2.5 Ghz poor indoor penetration spectrum. I would rather have Sprint's 800 and 1900 Mhz spectrum for LTE and only rely on Clearwire for supplemental LTE capacity instead of relying entirely on Clearwire. I hope Clearwire succeeds and becomes really profitable because that just means that Sprint will be more profitable since it owns a 54% stake.
Maybe when clearwire is profitable they can begin to start expanding again but I don't see this happening until 2015-2016 at the very earliest but they need to focus on getting back into the black.
Light squared may be doomed but sprint still had clear. They are worth a hell of a lot more now since Verizon's huge priced spectrum buy a few months ago. They were set to be gobbled up by sprint but now the value of their spectrum is greater than sprints market cap. Having spent some time with a network engineer for clear, they aren't doing as bad as people think. Sprint will probably end up with much more spectrum than att has now for lte at least with their partnership. Clear will contract out bandwidth to many companies though. You have to remember that even Verizon is pretty limited and will face some problems as lte is more widely adopted. They have only about 10-15mhz of bandwidth.
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This is annoying they dont have 4G in Hawaii yet.
but my phone says 4G
damn u ATT and ur false adversting HSPA+ is not 4G....
really att does to much to lie and cheat u...
such as blocking google wallet -_-
makes me wanna unlock and go t mobile ><
i know its a stupid thing to complain about its just a icon blah blah blah...
but hey if it says 4G then i want my damn 4G speeds not HSPA+ speed att
and no i dont hate my phone i LOVE it
i just HATE ATT
there's a few post about this already if you would have searched you would have known that when its just the 4G icon its HASP+ and then when there is lte under the 4G icon you're on 4G
try searching next time
Come on man, you seriously didn't know that att calls hspa+ 4g? sprint calls Wimax 4g etc... Not false advertising, they clearly call out hspa+ vs. lte in the commercials
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Come on man, you seriously didn't know that att calls hspa+ 4g? sprint calls Wimax 4g etc... Not false advertising, they clearly call out hspa+ vs. lte in the commercials
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Did you even read his post? He knows fully well anything you could tell him. According to carriers HSPA+ is 4g.
Damn, quit *****ing! Would you rather just have hsdpa without the option of hspa+? And It boggles my mind how you would consider going to T-Mobile knowing damn well you would be on edge. You knew at&t calls hspa+ 4g, they are not trying to trick anyone. I'm sure you would rather have that then edge or 3g man. So I don't get why you hate them for that.
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Eric-1987 said:
Did you even read his post? He knows fully well anything you could tell him. According to carriers HSPA+ is 4g.
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to many US carriers lie way to much hell even there 4G isnt true 4G yet they call even HSPA+ 4G just ranting thats all lol....
just want honest carriers here in the US not some bull****
but where in US what can we do nothing but greedy ****s and **** goverment here
thanks all for ur time
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to many US carriers lie way to much hell even there 4G isnt true 4G yet they call even HSPA+ 4G just ranting thats all lol....
just want honest carriers here in the US not some bull****
but where in US what can we do nothing but greedy ****s and **** goverment here
thanks all for ur time
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What does it matter what they advertise it as? Us geeks know the truth. Be lucky you arent on the iphones ****ty 14.4 chip.
I do wish it would show the exact mode it is in
G - GSM
E - Edge
H - HSDPA
H+ - HSDA+
L - LTE
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makes me wanna unlock and go t mobile ><
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So you're saying T-Mobile doesn't do false advertising? What is T-Mo 4G using?
Hint, T-mo is the first one to label HSPA+ as 4G.
Yes tmobile is the reason that hspa+ is referred to as 4g. Once they started marketing it like that, the other carriers hands are basically forced. They can't have consumers thinking that only Tmobile has that speed.
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Quite the potty mouth Sheon###...you are either very young or uneducated.
Also, HSPA+ is 4G .
BackIn 2010 the ITU (International Telecommunication Union) said yep, it is.
Andrawer can you post a link?
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Quite the potty mouth Sheon###...you are either very young or uneducated.
Also, HSPA+ is 4G .
BackIn 2010 the ITU (International Telecommunication Union) said yep, it is.
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Not young not un educated
Yes I'm a potty mouth as u call it who cares
Be happy with what you have. I am stuck with edge in Delaware.
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Andrawer can you post a link?
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There is no need for link. It was widely reported back then. At first, ITU defined only the LTE Advanced (100mbps+) can be called 4G. Then all carriers world wide complained. Then, ITU changed its mind and let carriers call whatever they want as 4G.
4G as a term is meanless these days. It's a name only to the clueless mass. It's like in the early days of gaming console, there were 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit (and even 128-bit IIRC) game consoles. Nowsdays, none of the consoles on the market mention this anymore.
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There is no need for link. It was widely reported back then. At first, ITU defined only the LTE Advanced (100mbps+) can be called 4G. Then all carriers world wide complained. Then, ITU changed its mind and let carriers call whatever they want as 4G.
4G as a term is meanless these days. It's a name only to the clueless mass. It's like in the early days of gaming console, there were 8-bit, 16-bit, 32-bit, 64-bit (and even 128-bit IIRC) game consoles. Nowsdays, none of the consoles on the market mention this anymore.
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I dont see how you compare consoles graphics capability with the network speeds. What else are they suppose to call it? Faster network? And I would like a link because last I heard 4g was technically only LTE.
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Quite the potty mouth Sheon###...you are either very young or uneducated.
Also, HSPA+ is 4G .
BackIn 2010 the ITU (International Telecommunication Union) said yep, it is.
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No, they did not. LTE isn't even officially 4G.
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Welcome to the machine.
And I completely agree. If you're on HSPA+, it should say "H+".
4g = LTE. plain and simple.
I'm amazed people are *****ing about such simple things as 4g icons and not serious issues with the phone. Put a 1x on my screen and give me the same 7-12mb/s speed and I'll take it. Seriously people, if you don't like it, start cooking roms and fix the icons. My skyrocket had 3g icon for h+ and 4g for lte. Not that I cared because I'm aware enough to tell the difference anyway.
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I dont see how you compare consoles graphics capability with the network speeds. What else are they suppose to call it? Faster network? And I would like a link because last I heard 4g was technically only LTE.
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My point is calling a network 4G is similar to the old days calling a game console 64-bit. Neither have any relationship to the speed of the network or speed of the game console.
See this link http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2374564,00.asp.
Folks, before I get flamed for posting that and before a Moderator closes my thread, please read what I have to say.
I live in Atlanta, where LTE supposedly is everywhere. Or so I thought "supposedly" when I had the Evo because ever since I got it, I've only seen it connected once(I thought maybe it just wasn't available yet.)
Then I thought maybe it was my phone since people were reporting getting 4G speeds a lot in Atlanta, so I argued my way into getting another one from Sprint. Same thing. Never connected.
Then I got myself a Galaxy Nexus. The phone was great (til I broke it) and it was always connected to 4G.
(I even made a thread about it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846041)
When my brother came to visit me, I even tested his Evo LTE. Same thing.
Then I broke my Galaxy Nexus and bought a Galaxy S III. To my surprise, it also always connected to 4G.
I went to Sprint and compared it to an Evo LTE to see if that one would connect. I checked the settings to make sure LTE is on and it still wouldn't connect.
Even my 3G speeds on the Samsung devices are better.
Thus, I learned so far that Samsung's antenna's are a LOT better than HTC antenna.
(FYI, I do not work or am endorsed by Samsung in any means. Matter of fact, I think their phones feel like cheap plastic pieces of sh*t and I wish I could have my HTC again (in working condition.))
Maybe we need to pressure HTC into putting in better antennas in our phones.
Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.
I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed
Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330
^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
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Are you sure you were on LTE on the Samsung phones? Correct me if I'm wrong but I think the EVOLTE is an LTE only phone and doesn't connect to Sprint's legacy 'faux-g' hspa network while I believe the Sammy phones do. My first Samsung phone was the intercept ( a miserable failure) and my second was the nexus s 4g(terrible reception but great phone). I've had much better luck with HTC phones when it comes to hardware.
I've only been to ATL once on a business trip and managed to connect to LTE before Sprint officially launched it so I was impressed
Edit: http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/HTC-EVO-4G-LTE,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7019,6330
^Here is a decent source to prove it. I blame Sprint for being d***headed enough to insist on having an exclusive version of the One-X with features that didn't leave enough room for all the radios we need. They should have just taken the One-X as it was intended by HTC. Personally there us no 4g in my area at all so the Evo works fine picking up 3g
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I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.
Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.
And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.
At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.
So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.
I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
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I see where you're coming from but yes these are both LTE.
Galaxy Nexus was Sprint's first LTE phone launched, then Evo and I believe then GS3.
And the speeds I'm getting (in good areas) are 20MB plus.
At work, I get a constant 3-5MB.
So I do not think it's T-Mobile's HSPA that I'm connecting to but actual LTE.
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Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
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Even if it's true, false, or up for debate, you won't get a good discussion on it here.
I foresee posts about plastic phones, pentile screens, and TouchWiz.
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I know. I figured. I was think perhaps someone could come up with a better answer here. On Samsung section, I would only get things like "Yeah Samsung all the way!!!" Etc.
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Well the point is that I think Sprint has a bigger hspa footprint than LTE so you may be getting hspa and then LTE when you enter its range(thus the good 20mb spots). Even if the Samsung radio is slightly better you should still be able to connect on the Evo...
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I see what you're saying.
Also, I agree with the Evo should still be connecting. Not sure why it wasn't 3 Evo's at that.
(I tried all 3 different radios. Even lost my S-OFF and my Root in order to try the latest radio because I was that desperate for answers.)
Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
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Sprint doesn't have a hspa+ network.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
And honestly, Samsung vs. HTC aside, the problem is more on the carrier than HTC... Or both I guess. I used 2 friend's One X and GS3 next to each other in hspa+ 4G and they both were very close as far as load times. The GS3 person ended up swapping in her gs3 for the One X after seeing the software difference though Sprint just forced HTC to skimp on the radios with the extra evo features jammed in.
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Yeah that's what I thought too. Isn't T-Mobile the only one left with HSPA?
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At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.
The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
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Sprint doesn't have a hspa network. There are no phones that connect to Sprint’s previous 4G network (wimax) and their current 4G (LTE) network.
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Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
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I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
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At&t uses a hspa+ network for 4G as well as LTE.
The connection issues are well documented and have been known to Sprint since at least April.
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Was not aware. It's not just signal issues. It's HTC signal issues, correct??
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Well, I could be wrong then.. Whatever tech they used for their old fauxG is what I'm talking about. Is there really no phone that can use both?
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You're talking WiMax.
And GS3 is not WiMax compatible.
sobaked2921 said:
I'm in dallas and my evo drops 4g left and right. Even when I find a strong siginal it switchs back to 3g. I'm currently lookin to sell mine an gettin a gs3 as I type this. It's bull**** payim 10$ extra for **** u can't use
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Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.
Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sp...e-else-having-sprint-gs-iii-radio-issues.html
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/96470
http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/92898
Honestly though, both phones are getting threads like this daily so I'm having a hard time believing any signal related complaints anymore.
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Just be aware, on GS3 you'll still have to pay the $10 fee.
Only way you won't is if you switch to a non 4G WiMax or 4G LTE phone.[/QUOTE]
I know but at least ill get better connection as I impatiently wait for sprint to finish the LTE lol
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I'm honestly torn between HTC and Samsung, sometimes. I love how an HTC phone feels in my hands, nice and solid. Sense looks good but can sometimes be a performance hog. Samsung does some pretty unique stuff to their devices (multiscreen, s-pen, etc) and I like that. I hate how the whole damn thing is just a bar of plastic, just don't like what it feels like compared to HTC. But software wise, Tocuhwiz isn't that bad, IMO. It's much closer to AOSP than any other OEMs version of Android.
But if you want a good read on the upcoming struggles with Samsung's Exynos-based devices, read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1922613&page=2
Start around post 16, some really good info from a CM dev. I like Samsung for always getting out their source early, but if it's broken and doesn't compile, then it doesn't matter. And if they can't help with any low level processor stuff because it's proprietary to them, they're not helping the community as much as they try to show that they are. Just my 2 cents.
Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
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Radio aside, how do you like the GS3 compared to the EVOLTE?
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Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.
I wish I had my Evo back sometimes.
Very solid phone. GS3 freezes. My keyboard can't keep up with my typing and I end up with words like "whuoi dasu unjhoos" (this matters to me. I text a LOT.. like 500 or so texts per day.)
The speaker phones sounds terrible.
It's durable as a cold butter stick.
Feels very plastic-y.
However pros:
Service,
More developers available for it on XDA,
Very light.
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Don't really wanna answer cuz I think you're a POS but no, I don't.
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LOL!
I've actually come close to trading my EVO for a GS3 a couple times. No LTE here, so that's never factored in.
Basically 3 things have kept me from doing so:
1. People want way too much +$
2. Most that I've come across not in mint condition
3. I'm lazy
Oh, and also been trying to sell a car on CL, so haven't reposted my EVO for GS3 ad in awhile.
Doesn't most of the EVO's LTE connection problem stem from software? Bc last I heard the next ota is going to address it?
Personally, I won't have LTE for another few months at the earliest. So, it doesn't matter much to the majority of the US. Granted there are a lot of EVO users in the LTE startup cities. But does this mean a mass exodus from the EVO for 4g connectivity?
I can wait to see if an ota fixes the issues. I mean what are we gonna do, go to Verizon? Hahahaha.
If I wanted to take my ELTE and switch to Verizon's pre-paid plan do kneed to do anything special with the phone? I want to hold off getting a contract plan until the nexus 5 comes out.
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There is a guide for tgat all u need is root
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I already am root and I'm already running on Verizon's 3g but still with sprint. Its switching to vz full time I'm wondering how to do
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You won't be able to use their LTE no matter what you do short of getting a VZ device... So why bother even trying to keep the evo
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Im not really concerned with 4g per se. I'm wanting to go ATT but really feel the phone I want is the Nexus 5 based on the rumors. I like my evo 4g because of its camera. Honestly right now it is plenty fast for everything. In running meanbean on it and there doesn't appear to be anything I can't handle just fine.
I hate sprints service so I flashed the Verizon prl and after putting 5gb on it this week I should be getting terminated before too long.
ill need a service to jump on and Verizon's month to month is $70 with 2gb. That should be plenty for me. ATTs month to month sucks and I dont care for their phones right now. My goal is the Nexus 5 anyway. I'd rather just use verizons monthly with my current phone. Just depends how things work out. I also get 22% off Verizon plans so hoping that translates to a good deal.
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Im not really concerned with 4g per se. I'm wanting to go ATT but really feel the phone I want is the Nexus 5 based on the rumors. I like my evo 4g because of its camera. Honestly right now it is plenty fast for everything. In running meanbean on it and there doesn't appear to be anything I can't handle just fine.
I hate sprints service so I flashed the Verizon prl and after putting 5gb on it this week I should be getting terminated before too long.
ill need a service to jump on and Verizon's month to month is $70 with 2gb. That should be plenty for me. ATTs month to month sucks and I dont care for their phones right now. My goal is the Nexus 5 anyway. I'd rather just use verizons monthly with my current phone. Just depends how things work out. I also get 22% off Verizon plans so hoping that translates to a good deal.
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I doubt you will get any discounts on a prepaid plans
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ToiletDucky said:
Im not really concerned with 4g per se. I'm wanting to go ATT but really feel the phone I want is the Nexus 5 based on the rumors. I like my evo 4g because of its camera. Honestly right now it is plenty fast for everything. In running meanbean on it and there doesn't appear to be anything I can't handle just fine.
I hate sprints service so I flashed the Verizon prl and after putting 5gb on it this week I should be getting terminated before too long.
ill need a service to jump on and Verizon's month to month is $70 with 2gb. That should be plenty for me. ATTs month to month sucks and I dont care for their phones right now. My goal is the Nexus 5 anyway. I'd rather just use verizons monthly with my current phone. Just depends how things work out. I also get 22% off Verizon plans so hoping that translates to a good deal.
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The problem is getting Verizon's system to recognize a Sprint phone. You can take GSM phones from carrier to carrier because all you have to do is transfer the SIM card, but that doesn't work with CDMA carriers since there's no SIM card. You'd actually have to get Verizon to provision a Sprint phone for their system, and somehow I don't see them doing that.
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maxpower7 said:
The problem is getting Verizon's system to recognize a Sprint phone. You can take GSM phones from carrier to carrier because all you have to do is transfer the SIM card, but that doesn't work with CDMA carriers since there's no SIM card. You'd actually have to get Verizon to provision a Sprint phone for their system, and somehow I don't see them doing that.
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Even if you could swap Sims it wouldn't help ya as the device itself is not provisioned to work on all of VZ freq.... Namely LTE... Lot more to how devices connect than the SIM cards...
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Call verizon customer service tell them you want to open a prepaid account and port the phone and they will help you. See the only real difference between the verizon 4g phones and sprint are the lack of sim card and imei. But you can still program it to work on verizons network. All customer service agents aren't the same by the way. So if one doesn't know how to help you then another one will and you will get your phone on their. Also if you take a look in this same section this really cool guy wrote a guide on flashing a evo 4g lte to verizon prepaid.
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Even if you could swap Sims it wouldn't help ya as the device itself is not provisioned to work on all of VZ freq.... Namely LTE... Lot more to how devices connect than the SIM cards...
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That was my point. Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA providers and it's not as simple as just swapping out the SIM like you can do when you move from one GSM provider to another (e.g. AT&T to TMobile).
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That was my point. Sprint and Verizon are both CDMA providers and it's not as simple as just swapping out the SIM like you can do when you move from one GSM provider to another (e.g. AT&T to TMobile).
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as long as you can get verizon to accept the ESN number your good. verizon has been known to be more accepting of sprint ESNs than visa versa. Though you will not get anything higher than 3g which will top out around 3-5mbps. Also you have to get the phone to accept verizon prls but i think someone has a guide for that..signal should be good though paying 70 for prepaid verizon 2gb i'd rather just get tmobile at 30$ for 5gb of AWS signal just pick up a sony xperia Z
syaoran68 said:
as long as you can get verizon to accept the ESN number your good. verizon has been known to be more accepting of sprint ESNs than visa versa. Though you will not get anything higher than 3g which will top out around 3-5mbps. Also you have to get the phone to accept verizon prls but i think someone has a guide for that..signal should be good though paying 70 for prepaid verizon 2gb i'd rather just get tmobile at 30$ for 5gb of AWS signal just pick up a sony xperia Z
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You'll never get 3-5mbps using Verizon 3g. More like 1-2. Still way better than Sprint 3g though.
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