Which one is better?
I think quad-core is a waste if there are no games or app optimized for it. I'd rather have 2gb ram so I can have more ram hogging app open and less automatic app closing.
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legacytw said:
Which one is better?
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There is exact same thread in general section people discussing about the issue you are asking hence this thread is not needed. Also quad in gs3 is clocked at 1.4, not 1.5.
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I searched it, but didn't find it.
I'm a little iffy about upgrading .. now on G2, 1.2 with 1Gb ram. Is it worth spending the money for only .3 and 1 extra gig of ram?
I believe its the the epic 4g general section
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If you asked the guy with the exploding quad core I bet he says the dual core with 2gb lol......... But seriously, I'd say you get more use from more ram, for at least the next 6 months anyways, till all the devs start updating their apps to optimize the 4 cores. But I'd still rather have more ram really.
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I was asking myself the same question. Im going to go with the us variant, since there arent many apps (if any) optimized for 4 cores yet. I prefer the extra gig though because i run widgets like there no tomarrow
rather have the 2gb of ram...
ram is usually the bottleneck in computers
I like having a suped up dual core with TWO gigs of ram. And LTE , when it's available of course.
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I'd say both quad core and 2GB of ram are overkill.
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http://www.androidcentral.com/quad-core-2gb-lte-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-hitting-korea-july-9
how about a quadcore with 2gb of ram?
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I am not familiar with android os, so i wanted to ask people who have some knowledge behind it a question.
What do you see improving with the thunderbolt when gingerbread gets released?
Do you think the thunderbolt will be able to improve its chances to still stand out against the dual-core phones with the help of 2.3?
I love my thunderbolt, it is my very first Android OS device and i am glad to be an early adopter of the 4g LTE network, i do personally feel that i put myself in a rough position because i chose a phone with a single core. Should i feel this way?
Thanks XDA, i've spent so many hours learning about phones in general on this board. it is my new home!
No, single core is great.
1. Apps must be written to utilize dual core (the thunderbolt can be overclocked to 2ghz, which is much faster than needed)
2. Any phone you buy will be outdated in terms of current technology within 6 months. (Don't compare to other technology. Compare to apps you want to run. There are no foreseeable apps the thunderbolt can't run well)
Imho, dual core is currently just a gimmick to attract buyers and I don't think it will be necessary to own one for about 2 years.
I've used the attic, compared to thunderbolt you can't even notice a speed difference.
As for the usual bionic/thunderbolt debate. I believe the Ram is more important then dual core ATM. And if the bionic really only has 512, the thunderbolt will do perfectly fine stacked against it.
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the thunderbolt can be overclocked to 2ghz, aka the same speed as 1ghz dual core
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A 1GHz dual core processor is not 2GHz. Its 1GHz, both cores running at 500MHz.
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i've played with an Atrix before the TB came out. The dual core did nothing for it. My TB is noticeably faster than the Atrix was. Plus ATT 4G service is a joke.
As far as differences between 22 and 23, check this out:
http://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-android-2-2-froyo-and-android-2-3-gingerbread/
Probably not alot to to write home about, but i def like the gingerbread keyboard over the froyo keyboard.
Ive never seen a dual core referred to as the speed of the 2 cores added. Every dual core I've heard of refers to the speed of the individual processors. ie, all the new ones (tegra 2, exynos, evo 3d snapdragon) have 2 cores each at 1 ghz
Leading to the equation:
2 x 1 ghz cores != 1 x 2 ghz core != 2 x 500 mhz cores
You have nothing to worry about. The snapdragon CPU is second generation with great performance and low power, and It's coupled with adreno 205 graphics which is very capable. Your phone with be high end for easily 1.5 years matching the other phones out there. I'm not too worried about dual core CPU's yet because no software is taking advantage of it yet. And android OS won't be updated to utilize dual core till version 2.4. So you have nothing to worry about.
Hell my nexus one I still find top notch in my opinion.
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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papi92 said:
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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Quad scores mean very little to the end user experience go buy a desktop PC.
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miketoasty said:
Quad scores mean very little to the end user experience go buy a desktop PC.
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Lol, no he meant the quad cores processors coming out like the Tegra 3.
He said quad core not quadrant scores.
RogerPodacter said:
You have nothing to worry about. The snapdragon CPU is second generation with great performance and low power, and It's coupled with adreno 205 graphics which is very capable. Your phone with be high end for easily 1.5 years matching the other phones out there. I'm not too worried about dual core CPU's yet because no software is taking advantage of it yet. And android OS won't be updated to utilize dual core till version 2.4. So you have nothing to worry about.
Hell my nexus one I still find top notch in my opinion.
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Totally agree Roger. The real problem with dual core is Android software is not written to take full advantage of both cores. This was evident when I had a chance to play with my friends LG Optimus 2X. FPS was fantastic on nenamark averaging just below 80. All games in the Tegra zone played great. However, when it came to day to day stuff it lagged. For example, sometimes it took two swipes for the screen to register a touch. Web pages with heavy flash had awful load times.
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A 1GHz dual core processor is not 2GHz. Its 1GHz, both cores running at 500MHz.
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Uhh No. Its a Single Processor with 2 cores both running at 1ghz. none are run at 500 mhz.
and As for Quad Cores and Dual Cores, Im Loving the Battery life they are gonna bring to us. The Point isn't just performance but also low Energy Usage.
papi92 said:
I be worried about the quad cores coming out by the end of q3. That's what I want. I love my tb. I won it in a local contest and I still have my upgrade. Can you say win
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Win indeed sir. I'm a VZW employee and can upgrade every 9 months
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Can you imagine the epic tears that will flow for quad core battery issues?
... just sayin'
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Uhh No. Its a Single Processor with 2 cores both running at 1ghz. none are run at 500 mhz.
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+1
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And while applications might not be specifically written for dual core, the OS is. That alone provides some improvement.
But whatever. Our processor will be fine for quite some time.
And correct, a 1GHz dual core runs at 2x1GHz, not 2x500Mhz
Anyway we're not going to see gingerbread here for at least 4 months
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As for the OP, I don't think enough improvements from 2.2-2.3 are going to be done to make it the same as an optimized dual core. Also, I don't think stock HTC Sense 2.3 will have much of a visual difference than stock 2.2 Sense. Once the 2.3 update comes out, I'll probably still stick with a custom ROM that is 2.2 until the 2.3 custom ROM's come out.
What I hope that HTC fixes is the GPS issues. The "fix" that is in the development forum (turning off Google Location Services) has worked wonders for me, but I'm hoping HTC just fixes it in a firmware or software update sometime in the future.
ajftl said:
Anyway we're not going to see gingerbread here for at least 4 months
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Gb is reportedly hitting thunderbolt in q2!
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Here is a link to a script that makes your phone smoother and less laggy. It works for all phones and is easy to install. Everything you need is here in this link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=991276
Please tell others what settings worked best for you.
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This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Mrperf3ct said:
This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Thanks for letting me know
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I used to use this on my G2x, my quadrants and all benchmarks JUMPED with it, and worked REALLY well for it. But with the Amaze (I've already used it etc etc) I don't see any difference, the amaze's amount of ram is probably a big contributor to that fact but also probably the version of Android also, as my G2x was running 2.3.3....
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I used to use this on my G2x, my quadrants and all benchmarks JUMPED with it, and worked REALLY well for it. But with the Amaze (I've already used it etc etc) I don't see any difference, the amaze's amount of ram is probably a big contributor to that fact but also probably the version of Android also, as my G2x was running 2.3.3....
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It's the ram and the cpu the g2x is a 1Ghz dualcore we have 1.5Ghz dualcore the g2x only has a couple hundred MBs or ram amaze is 1GB... And that's why u see no improvement...
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It's the ram and the cpu the g2x is a 1Ghz dualcore we have 1.5Ghz dualcore the g2x only has a couple hundred MBs or ram amaze is 1GB... And that's why u see no improvement...
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I thought that's what I said.. hehehe probably not so much the CPU though as the script only modifies ram management.
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Mrperf3ct said:
This script was not written for high end devices such as this one... Or anything with a dual core CPU... You might see a difference using a single core but this script was written for Ram management on lower end devices and devices with little ram... Using on a 1.5Ghz dualcore phone with 1GB of ram might imo be a waste of time...
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Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
zeppelinrox said:
Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Whoa newer version then I have currently, thanks Zep. Hah I don't have that option.. haven't checked for a long while I guess. I'm gonna go try it, yay.
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Cool feel free to post your findings
zeppelinrox said:
Ya... explain that to dual core Atrix users...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1257574&highlight=supercharger&page=221
Comments such as "it's pretty mind blowing" probably warrants investigation despite recommendations from people who have never tried it.
Oh... and the lower end device cannot choose this option:
Code:
9. 1000HP Super UnLedded{6,12,200,225,250,300}
Since it's designed for high end devices too, I prevent low end devices from going too over the top
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Ay smart guy they don't have a full gig of ram... You will not see any difference in performance on this device and thats why the EVo 3D didn't waste their time on it...
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Doesn't matter.
"Gurus" always say the same thing... last time it was that it won't do anything on a device with 512MB of ram...
How much ram does a SGS II have, smart guy?
Actually, seems the specs are close to this device... so here you go...
Android Spin article... author is using the SGS II
http://androidspin.com/2011/11/02/v6-supercharger-the-android-memory-fixer/
Bookmark it so you can read it whenever your phone lags
It's nice to see that people still don't get the concept of "work smarter, not harder" because it makes it easier for those that do work smarter to get ahead.
My settings don't "stick" after a reboot, and the help file is blank, 0 bytes.
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Did you run the latest update 9 RC3.2?
If not, use that.
Pretty sure that problem doesn't happen anymore with the newest versions.
no, I was using version 8, but I'll give the new one a try. thanks for the reply
Ok cool... there are alot more options so if you're unsure about what an option does, just select it and it will give an explanation before it does anything.
Anyone knows if Samsung has plans to release updated version of international SGSIII with 2GB RAM like they are doing with US/Japan version?
1GB is not nearly enough for heavy multitasking...
Heavy multitasking?
Whatever do you actually use that
Require such hardware for a phone?
Galaid said:
Anyone knows if Samsung has plans to release updated version of international SGSIII with 2GB RAM like they are doing with US/Japan version?
1GB is not nearly enough for heavy multitasking...
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Lol, but last year 1G of RAM was more than enough. Where getting crazy. Duel-Core, and 1G of RAM was perfect, and still is. Quad-Core, and 1G of RAM is Over kill. Just trollin' it up. I'm sticking with Duel-Core until the next Nexus. If Google releases a Quad-Core, then I'll get a GSIII. But as of now, I'm enjoying the "Basic" Duel-Core with 1G of RAM.
Edit: Sig is from my ROM, running a port. Has a XE build prop.
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fieskmask said:
Heavy multitasking?
Whatever do you actually use that
Require such hardware for a phone?
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I'll be using my phone as a dock for work. That means that I'll need browser that keeps tabs (at least 5 of them) and MS OFfice opened with gmail, exchange, gtalk and occasionally gallery
I can watch my p0rn and play gameloft games and Tapatalk together on 1GB ram
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sahibunlimited said:
I can watch my p0rn and play gameloft games and Tapatalk together on 1GB ram
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Ahem*Clears throat*,actually you can *cough cough*.
Galaid said:
Anyone knows if Samsung has plans to release updated version of international SGSIII with 2GB RAM like they are doing with US/Japan version?
1GB is not nearly enough for heavy multitasking...
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Completely agree. 1GB of RAM is NOT enough for power multitasking. I will be waiting for 2GB version too. I am currently working with SWAP Partition in order to "FIX" low memory issues... i hope with SGS3 no more.
i hate when folk are like "DUH WHAT DO YOU NEED TWO GIG OF RAM FOR?"
what difference does it make what its for, we want it ok?
why wouldnt we want it?
its like saying what do you want a ferrarri for when you have a volvo in the drive?
or asking what do you want a million dollars for when you only need ten for your lunch?
HULK SMASH
Very unlikely... But what do u want to do with ur phone that u say 1 GB is nor enough.
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I think it may be 2GB RAM on GSM GSIII but probably near the end of the year.
I'm upgrading from a Galaxy Fit, which has less than 200MB usable RAM; so I think I'll be happy with only 1GB RAM.
I just upgraded to EVO LTE and is very nice its fast quick beautiful screen very smooth but can't figure out what's is using my ram I'm using 400 and have mabe 270 left to used but when I combine those it doesnt equal 1gb of ram
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htc sense use ram also i don't know how much but it's alot. Don't worry about the ram cause the system will end whatever you have open and not using to make more ram.
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Alright thanks
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I think the gpu probably uses some too which might be why it didn't add up to 1024mb
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I think the gpu probably uses some too which might be why it didn't add up to 1024mb
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Possibly, but when I add my used and unused ram together I only come up with
660 which is way short or 1gb ram
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Possibly, but when I add my used and unused ram together I only come up with
660 which is way short or 1gb ram
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I think I remember the EVO 3d with more ram. Like 720 something.
Well, there are plenty of hidden system settings. The number that you see in Task Manager or Settings is how much RAM that can be used for anything. The ram you do not see available is being used by things that are UNABLE to be removed from RAM because they are essential to the system running. That is the reason why we see nothing close to 1GB.same thing goes for computers, you can either see Installed Memory or you can see Usable Memory. Installed Memory on LTevo would be 1GB and Usable Memory on Stock would be around 670MB(IIRC) for me.
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I see now it makes more sense now
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I noticed this also, coming from the EVO 3d (also with 1gb of ram) vs the 4gLTE. IIRC the 3d shows 804mb total vs 680mb. I figured it had to do with the 3d running gingerbread/sense 3.5 vs the 4gLTE running ICS/sense 4.0. My friend who has a galaxy nexus also with 1gb of ram, shows around the same amount of ram in the task manager.. either way I am absolutely amazed with this phone, not one issue or hiccup so far..
I see many people on xda posting ridiculous methods of freeing up Ram and frying the phone
I was once one of them, but its too much nuisance to tolerate when its again and again repeated, I found this very cool thread for noobs:
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
Hi,
LOL...
viking37 said:
Re,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904023
http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
And there are a bunch of others like these...
This is the placebo effect, you see more free RAM (oooh a high number !!!) and you think it is better so you feel it's better.
Sometimes higher is not better...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
In before lock.
cmd512 said:
In before lock.
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Absolutely pointless post. ^^
Interesting article. Thanks op.
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Thanks for post. Many users don't know this
I'm waiting for someone to come in to this thread and try to tell us why you need 50 gigs of Ram and how his US variant with 2 gigs of RAM is far superior to the international, I own both so before this even comes to light lets be clear,clean,cut and dry the international version is smoother than the US variant no matter how many of you RAM fanatics want to tell me that 2 gigs is master race. Further Android manages RAM very well on it's own you can probably run just about anything with 512mb of RAM, but a whole gigabyte that's just butter on my toast. I hope people will actually read this thread and learn how their devices work instead of just yelling about how they need more RAM and wonder why they have no battery life when a task manager constantly clears the cache. I would appreciate it if one of the more informed members of XDA can make a simple write up of how Android manages RAM and why more free RAM is not always better :highfive:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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stierney said:
Whilst I agree with the comments here it sometimes helps by not being rude to people who aren't as knowledgeable with android as some of us and who are asking questions like I have seen in some threads.
Whilst the adage free RAM is wasted RAM is generally correct with android there is no harm in freezing of uninstalling apps that you know you don't use.
For example I never use svoice and chat-on so there is no harm in freezing those or preventing them from loading if they will never be used.
Whilst unused RAM IS wasted RAM,,, RAM used by unused apps is also wasted ram
Go easy on the noobs and have a good weekend.
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While I do agree with this post no one here was implying that you shouldn't uninstall or Freeze bloatware, best wishes.
Ram, that's made by Dodge right?
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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imranb_001 said:
I was cursing sammy for not providing 2 gigs in s3 (int)but now it seems fine. But since ram is cheaper what in the world would had hapnd if sammy had provided 2 gigs.
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If I'm not mistaken the architecture of the version supporting HSPA does not support 2gb, that's why the Korean variant is slightly different and has 2 gigs of RAM, essentially It wouldn't have made any difference, the 32nm a9 process is about as far as it's going to go. (also I think the Korean version has 2 gigs of Ram due to LTE taking up more resources)
op, maybe it is not the issue of free-ing up RAM.. it also save up some battery...
eg: before you went to slp... make sure all are shut down.. and hv a minimal prog open for sync/phone..
of course now all OS have RAM optimism, but then sometime/some of the OS are not so profession on this.
most of the time due to the OS rooted/JB, which will have different methodology for optimizing the RAM.
Well, you can't deny the fact that more ram equals better multitasking. With less than 200mb of free ram after several days of use, my browser has to reload whenever I minimise it to check messages. But that wouldn't be the case if I had more free ram, ie when I've just rebooted the phone.
viking37 said:
Hi,
LOL...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1812620
But... wait... Another thread about memory management... ouch, do you think that the noobs will read it or use it?
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I hope they do
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Apparently, you've never met the Joneses and don't know how hard it is to keep up with them, let alone surpass them...
quattro_rs said:
If 2gb is not necessary on a phone, then explain having a quad core phone?
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Will your car also have more performance when you go to the gas station and fill it at max rather than half? Thats what this thread is about
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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If more RAM doesn't matter, then why do I get booted out of Tintin and other heavy gameloft games whilst having had to run other program before the games were started? The only way to play without the game crashing is first be clearing cache. Would it be low RAM, Samsung's fault(no good optimizations), or gameloft's fault(no good optimizations)?
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I would say both in my experience games from gameloft are always having poor support for samsung devices, and many other also
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I'm just saying having more ram would make the gs3 more future proof especially when games and apps get bigger and better and more resource hungry, plus ram is cheap and it wouldn't hurt adding 1 more gb......
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