Just got my MHL adapter.
I noticed that while videos run perfect, the screen is laggy, and emulators run like crap.
Is this due to the hardware or Sense?
Also, when the MHL is connected, it automatically goes to landscape, and the kickstand is unusable because the display doesn't auto-rotate.
Is there a way to modify that?
I find emulators impossible to use. Input lag is ridiculousness
Yea I noticed that too haha.
I hope this is just because of Sense because I mainly got the adapter so I can play using the TV and a couple of controllers. D:
i used my GS2 (epic touch) with an MHL combo with n64oid and the performance was practically flawless. It might have been the smoothness of an exynos cpu but still it sucks to hear its not so on our next gen chipset
Got a PNY MHL adapter for $10 shipped no issues what so ever. I was really worried after all the feedback but like Mc Donalds says I'm lovin it!
Maybe it's the 720p phone display that's causing the slowdown
Can anybody with a GNex comment?
Let me clarify, it's not slow fps. It's input lag. I can't play games like metroid fusion because it's too slow to pick up when I am trying to input through the PS3 controller. The phone's screen is PERFECTLY playable. It's the HDTV mirror that isn't. So, input lag. Only on through HDMI
El_Colombiano said:
Let me clarify, it's not slow fps. It's input lag. I can't play games like metroid fusion because it's too slow to pick up when I am trying to input through the PS3 controller. The phone's screen is PERFECTLY playable. It's the HDTV mirror that isn't. So, input lag. Only on through HDMI
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yea that's what was happening to me. agh it's frustrating.
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Gents I bought a generic POWERED MHL cable and when I plug it into the S2 WiFi won't connect anymore to my network. What gives? I have googled a bit and seen a few issues regarding it, not sure if more have had the issue. I wonder if this is a software or hardware issue. I have 4 days to return this phone if it is a hardware issue.
Anyone else have the same issue? TV signal shows up fine.
In general section someone has this same problem. I believe they said it was a tethering issue so you might have to root
yup i saw that and posted. i called samsung. according to them when plugging in an MHL adapter it disables wifi (even though you may still see the wifi icon) so that it doesnt cause jerkiness of ur picture
Hmm... I'll need to retry. I know cell data worked fine. Will try wifi-only.
Did you get it figured out? I ordered up one last week and should have it tomorrow. I was looking forward to being able to stream netflix.
What I would like to know before I spend the money on the official Samsung one if it would do the same thing.
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Wifi works fine with my MHL adapter connected. There is a small overscan issue but nothing I can't work with (my screen is 1:1 ratio so it's the adapter or the phone output). Both the laptop and the phone reported the same external ip.
Using this MHL adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0608256
P.S. - I just checked (10/29 - 5pm EST) and it did 1080i output. Not 1080p like some suggest but it may not do that until an actual 1080p video is played. Mine was 1280x960 resolution. There were two other interesting observations made that I thought were good when the MHL adapter was connected.
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(Clarification: Below observations are during video playback using the Video app only!)
1) During video playback TV does output 1:1 resolution (no overscan issue)
2) TV doesn't mirror phone display. Just renders playback so you can use the phone like a remote.
3) Screen doesn't turn off automatically during TV out playback.
Now then the above are for the video app and just to put minds at ease here are for everywhere else.
1) Screen may overscan but it may be resolution or screen ration differences between phone and tv. Mine is 1920x1080 native.
2) The TV will mirror the phone display so you can play your games and what not on the TV (like in the youtube videos showing off the adapters)
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Now then samsung's claim about studdering during MHL TV out? That sounds like bs. I checked cpu usage during the mkv decoding work and it was at 25% at the highest point and that was done by the mediaserver process. The tvoutserver used less than 2% cpu time to do it's work. I connected via adb over wireless which would of been only possible if wifi was working.
shinji257 said:
Wifi works fine with my MHL adapter connected. There is a small overscan issue but nothing I can't work with (my screen is 1:1 ratio so it's the adapter or the phone output). Both the laptop and the phone reported the same external ip.
Using this MHL adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0608256
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I think that is the same one I ordered. As soon as I get it I will report back how it works for me.
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shinji257 said:
Wifi works fine with my MHL adapter connected. There is a small overscan issue but nothing I can't work with (my screen is 1:1 ratio so it's the adapter or the phone output). Both the laptop and the phone reported the same external ip.
Using this MHL adapter - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA07R0608256
P.S. - I just checked (10/29 - 5pm EST) and it did 1080i output. Not 1080p like some suggest but it may not do that until an actual 1080p video is played. Mine was 1280x960 resolution. There were two other interesting observations made that I thought were good when the MHL adapter was connected.
1) During video playback TV does output 1:1 resolution (no overscan issue)
2) TV doesn't mirror phone display. Just renders playback so you can use the phone like a remote.
3) Screen doesn't turn off automatically during TV out playback.
Now then samsung's claim about studdering during MHL TV out? That sounds like bs. I checked cpu usage during the mkv decoding work and it was at 25% at the highest point and that was done by the mediaserver process. The tvoutserver used less than 2% cpu time to do it's work. I connected via adb over wireless which would of been only possible if wifi was working.
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You can't mirror the phone's display? What if I wanted to play a game on my TV - not possible? Does the hdmi out only display video playback?
I just got mine today. It mirrors the display on the phone. It works really well. Picture is way better than the RCA hookup i had for my cappy. WiFi works too. I am watching breaking bad on netflix. Works awesome.
Here is the one I got:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
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You can't mirror the phone's display? What if I wanted to play a game on my TV - not possible? Does the hdmi out only display video playback?
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I was specifically referring to the video app that's included on the phone (the samsung one). It mirrored the display everywhere else including in games so everything that showed on the phone showed on the TV.
owmygulay said:
I just got mine today. It mirrors the display on the phone. It works really well. Picture is way better than the RCA hookup i had for my cappy. WiFi works too. I am watching breaking bad on netflix. Works awesome.
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owmygulay, Can you control your phone with TV remote control (menu navigations, media transport functions, etc.)?
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owmygulay, Can you control your phone with TV remote control (menu navigations, media transport functions, etc.)?
Thanks
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Nope. None of that. Unless I an doing something wrong. It is just a larger display.
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Nope. None of that. Unless I an doing something wrong. It is just a larger display.
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I had the same experience with other unbranded MHL adapter. The Samsung MHL adapter provides all remote control functions.
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The Samsung MHL adapter provides all remote control functions.
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I didn't know that. Thats pretty sweet. You can plug the phone in, set it down and control everything with the tv remote? How does that work if you have to touch the screen to select stuff. That would be worth the extra cash for the samsung one over the cheap ones.
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I didn't know that. Thats pretty sweet. You can plug the phone in, set it down and control everything with the tv remote? How does that work if you have to touch the screen to select stuff. That would be worth the extra cash for the samsung one over the cheap ones.
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You can use navigation keys from the TV remote to navigate through the phone home pages and program list and select apps with the "Select" button on the remote, but it is impossible to select apps from the dock. It's not as fast as the touch screen , but it is manageable. My Sony TV is two years old, but works well with the Samsung MHL adapter. I borrowed one from my coworker to try, now I'm looking for a good online deal.
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I just got mine today. It mirrors the display on the phone. It works really well. Picture is way better than the RCA hookup i had for my cappy. WiFi works too. I am watching breaking bad on netflix. Works awesome.
Here is the one I got:
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10833&cs_id=1083314&p_id=8675&seq=1&format=2
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I'm the poster in the General forum with this issue. I have the monoprice adapter, and it disables my wifi.
That was stock, so I rooted the phone to disable any tethering app, and wifi is still disabled....did you have to do anything to get this to work?
This is really strange....maybe I should return the monoprice one and get the newegg one.
ferrocene said:
I'm the poster in the General forum with this issue. I have the monoprice adapter, and it disables my wifi.
That was stock, so I rooted the phone to disable any tethering app, and wifi is still disabled....did you have to do anything to get this to work?
This is really strange....maybe I should return the monoprice one and get the newegg one.
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I didn't do anything special. Just plugged it in. They had a couple different ones on monoprice. Did you get the same one I linked? It is the only one that says it will work with the sgs2. Mine works great and the picture quality is pretty good. I would try and just exchange it.
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I didn't do anything special. Just plugged it in. They had a couple different ones on monoprice. Did you get the same one I linked? It is the only one that says it will work with the sgs2. Mine works great and the picture quality is pretty good. I would try and just exchange it.
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Yeah, same one, item # 8675. Will try an exchange.
What ROM are you running? I tried both bare stock and Serendipity.
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Yeah, same one, item # 8675. Will try an exchange.
What ROM are you running? I tried both bare stock and Serendipity.
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I am running unnamed. I think I used it when I was stock though. I can't remember.
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Does anyone or has anyone ever used the HDMI cable with their X2 and noticed lag when playing a movie on a tv? I'm trying to watch a 720p HD movie and its lagging on my LCD tv but looks just fine on the phone. I bought the cable with the phone when it first came out and honestly this is the first time i've actually used it.
I got cable from Amazon though it would
be cool to see on big screen.
I connected it once to my 23" LG LED monitor.
The thrill was short lived no lag, picture not
that Impressive. Now I have a $10 shoelace lol.
like video lagging behind the audio? jittery video? wtf do you mean by "lag"?
let's say you run HDMI from the phone to the TV and then plug audio from the headphone jack into a stereo receiver, your audio will be getting to your ears anywhere from 55ms to 500ms before the video hits the screen, that's kinda the nature of all these newfangled flatpanel HDTVs (especially LCDs) there is an inherent delay between the video signal going into the TV vs. when it is actually displayed on the panel.
here's a good test for your TV's "lag" get one of those cheap battery operated atari games (the ones built into a joystick w/ the yellow red and white cables coming out) hook that up to your TV, you'll IMMEDIATELY notice the amount of latency present in your TV.
I think this is probably one case where the phone is not the problem, it's your TV. you can go into the TV's setup menu and look for a "game mode" which basically bypasses extra picture features and filters that for the most part make your picture look like crap.
but, you really need to define what you mean by "lag" 'cause I could be way off in left field here, but mine looks just fine on my panasonic plasma or my samsung LCD monitor when I use an HDMI to DVI adapter, and I've plugged it into all kinds of other displays (I use it as an HDMI signal generator almost everyday at work) granted I rarely watch video on it using the other displays (usually test patterns for projector alignment and calibrating video walls) but whenever I'm in a hotel with a TV that has HDMI, I use it, and it works just as good as my computer does. (but I do always set the TV up properly)
oh, and if you have any of that 120hz/240hz smoothmotion garbage enabled on your TV, turn that crap off.
I have the same problem!
But I have got another mobile i9105p, I know isn't the correct site, but, when I plug my MHL to the TV, the image shows a bit of DELAY, and when I run an application, is more like 500ms to 600ms...
I don't know if the problem is the mobile Broadcom Video core IV, or the MHL adaptar I bought from china.
Greetings.
This is a bit more of a TV aficionado question but also applies to our Rezound. I recently was given, as a gift, the MHL adaptor. Like any good new toy i hooked it up with various videos and began tinkering.
One of the things i did was downloaded (rented) a movie from HTC Watch. I wanted to see how good the quality was through the app and through the MHL. To my surprise it actually looks great however it seems as is there is black crush in the picture; almost like either the phone or the MHL adapter is sending the wrong color/picture signal.
For instance, if you have a PS3 you have in your options for color either RGM or Limited. Generally one is for the TV color space and the other is for computer monitor color space. If you use the wrong one of your TV typically you end up with DEEP blacks but you "crush" them and it darkens the picture too much and lose a lot of shadow detail.
The above "seems" to be happening using HTC Watch and the MHL adapter. Wanted to know if anyone else tried this out and are getting the same thing?
As a quick aside, i tested the "stock" HD videos that come with the rezound, a downloaded HD youtube video and also a 720p mpg through MX Video player of an episode of American Horror Story. None of the above videos experienced the "black crush" and all played smooth and properly with the exception of the AHS audio not being in sync on my TV but being in sync on my device; probably a decoding thing.
This makes me believe it could be a HTC "Watch" issue and not a MHL problem. BTW i am using the official HTC MHL adapter.
Thanks for any help with this.
try detethering the kernel to the locked frames
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try detethering the kernel to the locked frames
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Thanks for the response but I don't know what that means lol. Also I'm not rooted.
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Hey guys. I have GNote and I've been searching for days for a solution to the framerate issue when attempting to play a game via the MHL to HDMI adapter. The framerate is great when watching movies or videos. However, when I fire up GTA 3, FPSE, N64oid, or any other game, the framerate is awful. I would say I am averaging less than 10fps and it's almost unplayable. However, the framerate on the phone screen is fine. I'm sure this is due to the resources needed to render both displays but I haven't seen any way to disable the phone display while gaming. I don't need the phone screen on since I'm using a wireless PS3 controller. Any ideas?
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Hey guys. I have GNote and I've been searching for days for a solution to the framerate issue when attempting to play a game via the MHL to HDMI adapter. The framerate is great when watching movies or videos. However, when I fire up GTA 3, FPSE, N64oid, or any other game, the framerate is awful. I would say I am averaging less than 10fps and it's almost unplayable. However, the framerate on the phone screen is fine. I'm sure this is due to the resources needed to render both displays but I haven't seen any way to disable the phone display while gaming. I don't need the phone screen on since I'm using a wireless PS3 controller. Any ideas?
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I'm running the Official AT&T ICS Rom (rooted) btw. I removed a lot of the bloatware.
nobody?
I have this issue too, and it's a bummer. I assumed it was purely a hardware limitation and moved on... bought a GameKlip
Get a real gaming console
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Get a real gaming console
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I have a real gaming console but it's nice to have a mobile gaming device in my pocket at all times. Especially since I bought a GameKlip last week.
Themajesticking said:
Hey guys. I have GNote and I've been searching for days for a solution to the framerate issue when attempting to play a game via the MHL to HDMI adapter. The framerate is great when watching movies or videos. However, when I fire up GTA 3, FPSE, N64oid, or any other game, the framerate is awful. I would say I am averaging less than 10fps and it's almost unplayable. However, the framerate on the phone screen is fine. I'm sure this is due to the resources needed to render both displays but I haven't seen any way to disable the phone display while gaming. I don't need the phone screen on since I'm using a wireless PS3 controller. Any ideas?
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Can you pair a ps3 controller with the gnote!?
Did you tried another custom rom woth hw acceleration?
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vijovame said:
Can you pair a ps3 controller with the gnote!?
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Yes, by using the "Sixaxis Controller" app in the market.
I posted these questions in AT/T forum but got no answer probs due to lack of consumers actually using the official adaptor, so would love to ask u guys here since im really aiming at using the cable for presentations etc (and spent 50 dollars on it);
1) How do i fix the borders cut off in landscape mode when connected to TV?? If u look at youtube videos every user regardless of TVs have the screen bit cut off even thou phone's resolution is 16:9 720p?
2) Why does it display in 1080p not 720p (screen on galaxy s3 is 720p)? (my laptop using same hdmi cable without adaptor shows as 720p on TV) id like to be able to adjust it
3) My galaxy s3 heats up to 55 Celsius when playing with the phone and mirroring games. Is this normal? (although my alienware laptop heats up same also when connected to TV)
4) There is a abit of a lag between TV and a phone, the phone also seems to lag more when connected to TV (my laptop doesnt experience this)
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Most TVs default mode is to cut off the borders, I find that odd with HDTV because it's digitial. With the analog TVs they would cut off a little border because the edges of the signal weren't always of the best quality, and it makes the picture look a little "bigger" too. On my Samsung TV there is a "P.Size" button (picture size I presume), and I push that until "screen fit" comes up, which shows the full image. On other TVs I've heard using the HDMI port labeled for PC/laptops will come by default setup to not cut the borders, if it's not labeled that way it's normally the port that shares or is right next to the DVI port.
I have the 1080p display issue with the horrible lag as you've seen. If you come across a solution let me know, because it drives me nuts and some games are basically unplayable which is one of the major reasons I got my MHL adapter. For videos and web it works well enough, since a video isn't interactive you don't notice the delay.
The heating up is probably normal, a phone a very dense compared to a PC and doesn't have fans like a PC has, and I bet the display cloning and charging takes up a bit of power.
Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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Just got my new sammy tv with mhl support and more stuff, but have the same problem as you guys. Choppy playback at 1080p30, that really sucks. It shall be at 1080p60. I will give it a try with the other 2 hdmi slots, maybe it will work then. If not, I'm screwed and have to sell my hdmi-mhl-adaptor -.-'''
Really not cool and I cant explain it to myself, why it shouldnt work ((
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It seems max output is 1080p30, yet the phone is really nice and smooth on a tv with 720p or 1080i, as it's 60hz. Really annoying that there aren't any settings for the HDMI output to simply select an output resolution!