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I have tried to flash both Mean ROM ICS and viperROM ICS, but all i get is bootloops. I get to the main screen but all it does is reboot and say Android is Upgrading. BTW: S-ON HBOOT:1.5 Recovery:4EXT Smartflash ON
This is how i flash a ROM
1)From Fastboot boot into 4ext Recovery
2) Install Modified_Superwipe
3)Install the ROM
4) GET BOOTLOOPS!
EDIT:SORRY MENT S-ON
Waffle97slayer said:
I have tried to flash both Mean ROM ICS and viperROM ICS, but all i get is bootloops. I get to the main screen but all it does is reboot and say Android is Upgrading. BTW: S-OFF HBOOT:1.5 Recovery:4EXT Smartflash ON
This is how i flash a ROM
1)From Fastboot boot into 4ext Recovery
2) Install Modified_Superwipe
3)Install the ROM
4) GET BOOTLOOPS!
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Hm. Maybe just try manually wiping everything from recovery instead? I never use superwipes and as long as I factory data reset x2, wipe cache/dalvik x2, I never have issues. That's just how I've done it on all my phones and I never have issues.
I just flashed Newts One S RC3. It took me a while but I finally found a method that worked. I did it once and got through set-up and was in play store downloading apps when it went into boot loop. I tried the same method again and it didn't work. I messed around with different methods for a while before getting the following to work.
What I'm using:
HTC Unlock method
Hboot 1.5
S-on
cwm recovery 4.0.1.4
I used a computer to fastboot to recovery. Did factory data reset, wipe dalvik, and cache all x2. I installed the .zip rom file from SD card. And then installed the .zip anthrax ics RLS5 kernel file from SD card. Then I rebooted and so far everything is working fine. I've been running it for a couple hours now. I manually downloaded my apps one by one from the play store for fear of repeating what happened to me the first time. And I've just finished signing in to everything I use and haven't had an issue yet.
I hope this helps.
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AmbrosiaLyn07 said:
I just flashed Newts One S RC3. It took me a while but I finally found a method that worked. I did it once and got through set-up and was in play store downloading apps when it went into boot loop. I tried the same method again and it didn't work. I messed around with different methods for a while before getting the following to work.
What I'm using:
HTC Unlock method
Hboot 1.5
S-on
cwm recovery 4.0.1.4
I used a computer to fastboot to recovery. Did factory data reset, wipe dalvik, and cache all x2. I installed the .zip rom file from SD card. And then installed the .zip anthrax ics RLS5 kernel file from SD card. Then I rebooted and so far everything is working fine. I've been running it for a couple hours now. I manually downloaded my apps one by one from the play store for fear of repeating what happened to me the first time. And I've just finished signing in to everything I use and haven't had an issue yet.
I hope this helps.
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Yes i herd about this but have you tried charging or connecting your phone to a computer, many people can't charge or connect to computer via USB because of this kernel
Idk before I sent my phone in a had been using that kernel. I had no trouble charging/connecting. But really what it comes down to is every one of these phones is different, then you throw in the hboot and other key factors and it just gets worse.
veladem said:
Idk before I sent my phone in a had been using that kernel. I had no trouble charging/connecting. But really what it comes down to is every one of these phones is different, then you throw in the hboot and other key factors and it just gets worse.
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I just flashed the viperROM ics and the kernel, HMMMM it seems like i got to the main screen and no bootloops.... ,,, one tiny problem, NO 4G
and yes 4g works for this rom,, well atleast it says so
Waffle97slayer said:
I have tried to flash both Mean ROM ICS and viperROM ICS, but all i get is bootloops. I get to the main screen but all it does is reboot and say Android is Upgrading. BTW: S-OFF HBOOT:1.5 Recovery:4EXT Smartflash ON
This is how i flash a ROM
1)From Fastboot boot into 4ext Recovery
2) Install Modified_Superwipe
3)Install the ROM
4) GET BOOTLOOPS!
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Turn off smartflash if you are s-off you dont need it.
Then flash chads htc leak rls1 kernel, that stopped all the bootloops and problems for me its something about the stock kernel i am guessing. Everything worked fine after using that kernel. Anthrax rls5 says not to use it with sense 3.6, its right on androidfilehost. Chad said to use the leak rls1 instead for sense 3.6.
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wonder why every sense 4.0 ics rom i try to flash to my htc evo 3d... it always boot loop, i done tired everything everyone told me and the same thing happens.. only thing that really works on my phone is gingerbread... any suggestion??? really would appreciate it...
kameljr11 said:
wonder why every sense 4.0 ics rom i try to flash to my htc evo 3d... it always boot loop, i done tired everything everyone told me and the same thing happens.. only thing that really works on my phone is gingerbread... any suggestion??? really would appreciate it...
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In my case I can't get any ROM based on the leaked RUU to boot unless I changed the kernel, this applies to both 3.6 and 4.0 ROMs. I don't know if you're GSM or CDMA but I know the kernel from Shooter_Ice works for me which is a GSM ROM. I can flash that over just about any ROM and it works or I can install the ROM straight up and it works to. If you're GSM, try that, if you're CDMA then look for a similar ROM that isn't based on the HTC leak.
kameljr11 said:
wonder why every sense 4.0 ics rom i try to flash to my htc evo 3d... it always boot loop, i done tired everything everyone told me and the same thing happens.. only thing that really works on my phone is gingerbread... any suggestion??? really would appreciate it...
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Flash chad.goodman's RSL1 ICS KERNEL ,, worked for me
Boot loops on ics
I am also getting the same thing i am unlocked via the htc method cdma on hboot 1.5 whenever i try flashing a ics rom no matter which one it is I keep getting a boot loop to the htc screen any suggestions?
JonathanJ52 said:
I am also getting the same thing i am unlocked via the htc method cdma on hboot 1.5 whenever i try flashing a ics rom no matter which one it is I keep getting a boot loop to the htc screen any suggestions?
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ICS ROMs bootloop if you are Hboot 1.5 S-On (which you are if you unlocked via HTC). I recommend you get S-off using the wire trick or downgrade to 1.4 S-off. See the stickies in the CDMA Development section (or GSM development) to find information and steps on how to do it.
Waffle97slayer said:
Flash chad.goodman's RSL1 ICS KERNEL ,, worked for me
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Where Can I Download This. Not A Link Since U Cant Link From Other Development Sites, Just A Direction.
NexusS4gFreak said:
Where Can I Download This. Not A Link Since U Cant Link From Other Development Sites, Just A Direction.
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infectedROM is where Chad works out of.
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coal686 said:
ICS ROMs bootloop if you are Hboot 1.5 S-On (which you are if you unlocked via HTC). I recommend you get S-off using the wire trick or downgrade to 1.4 S-off. See the stickies in the CDMA Development section (or GSM development) to find information and steps on how to do it.
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+1, go s-off and you can flash anything you want
Loop FIX
Sometimes you will get boot loops even with 4ext.
One thing that I have found which works is flashing mean ROM 2.4 ICS as a base.
This ROM probably will not boot or will get stuck in a boot loop but that is fine in this case. From there on use 4ext to complete a "dirty install" of another ICS ROM. I recommend SOS De-Sensed Rom. Sometimes flashing a ICS ROM on top of another ICS ROM (booting or non booting) allows for install.
to bypass all the bs go straight to fastboot and flash 4ext recovery 1.00.5 and do the s off wiretrick and then try to flash the rom... when you get s off it releases more permissions for the kernel to flash to the rom without having to use flash image gui from joekrimz
try this
ok you need to flash the boot.img file trough the bootloader, if that doesnt work try flash image gui
Flash custom rom then pull out your battery, go to fastboot then try flash this boot.img with fastboot http://db.tt/kEUVhnvV
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Hey, i just installed the newest firmware and installed the stock rom and everything. Then i tried to install the deviltoast rom, it booted past the htc screen then once it got to the rom's boot logo, it played it for like a couple seconds then shut down and kept rebooting itself. I tried flashing multiple roms, and the same thing happens each time?? Anyone have any suggestions on how i can fix this?
The newest hboot is not compatible with devil toast or VM leak ROMs, or GB.
Option 1: If you are s-off (or get s-off), you can downgrade your hboot in bootloader to flash those.
Option 2: Flash a ROM based off the new ota. I suggest MeanROM.
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coal686 said:
The newest hboot is not compatible with devil toast or VM leak ROMs, or GB.
Option 1: If you are s-off (or get s-off), you can downgrade your hboot in bootloader to flash those.
Option 2: Flash a ROM based off the new ota. I suggest MeanROM.
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oh alright, well ill try meanrom for a bit. thanks!
Picked a 3D up on CL, clean ESN, $50, I couldn't pass it up. In great shape, so I'm a couple weeks into this, read, read, read, and managed to get the wire trick to work on 1.58 so I'm S-Off. Now what?
I guess my main question is, I'm reading S-off trumps all, but how exactly does your HBOOT version affect what ROMs you can load? Is it tied to Kernel basically? Or the base the ROM works on?
This hasn't been so clear in my search education.
I'm running Trib's SolidROM ver 2.1, at the moment (which is stellar), but I'm a flashaholic in need of a fix every few days... and there are so many options, but I can't seem to see the forest for the trees...
Thanks in advance. This place rocks.
trouinky said:
Picked a 3D up on CL, clean ESN, $50, I couldn't pass it up. In great shape, so I'm a couple weeks into this, read, read, read, and managed to get the wire trick to work on 1.58 so I'm S-Off. Now what?
I guess my main question is, I'm reading S-off trumps all, but how exactly does your HBOOT version affect what ROMs you can load? Is it tied to Kernel basically? Or the base the ROM works on?
This hasn't been so clear in my search education.
I'm running Trib's SolidROM ver 2.1, at the moment (which is stellar), but I'm a flashaholic in need of a fix every few days... and there are so many options, but I can't seem to see the forest for the trees...
Thanks in advance. This place rocks.
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Well there are very few rom's that are compatible with the 1.58 hboot so if your a flashoholic then you better off going to hboot 1.40 since with 1.40 hboot you can run both ICS & GB. GB has better compatibility in fact it can only play the 3d games and older gameloft games.
If you downgrade to a lower hboot please let me know how it went because I am thinking of upgrading to 1.58 to try out a new rom but I am afraid to because I am already s-off hboot 1.4.
trouinky said:
Picked a 3D up on CL, clean ESN, $50, I couldn't pass it up. In great shape, so I'm a couple weeks into this, read, read, read, and managed to get the wire trick to work on 1.58 so I'm S-Off. Now what?
I guess my main question is, I'm reading S-off trumps all, but how exactly does your HBOOT version affect what ROMs you can load? Is it tied to Kernel basically? Or the base the ROM works on?
This hasn't been so clear in my search education.
I'm running Trib's SolidROM ver 2.1, at the moment (which is stellar), but I'm a flashaholic in need of a fix every few days... and there are so many options, but I can't seem to see the forest for the trees...
Thanks in advance. This place rocks.
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90% sure of the following information.
Roms that are based directly on the Sprint ICS OTA require 1.58, some roms have used some tricks to let it run on 1.50 like SolidROM did.
1.58 for you means u can flash any ROM and not bootloop.
S-OFF means u can flash a rom FULLY, some of these ROMS have custom Kernels, and without flashing the kernel u get bootloops. u can also add your own Kernel.
so in conclusion your in good shape. u can flash Gingerbread- VM ICS - sprint ICS.
just be sure to stay away from changing your HBOOT, especially any VM firmware!
Hboot 1.58: Can load the new ICS kernel and all sense ICS ROMs. Cannot load AOSP and GB ROMs.
Hboot 1.4 (and others): Can load most ROMs (sense with vm leak kernel, GB, AOSP). Cannot load the new ICS kernel (or any ROM with that).
hboot 1.5 s-off
How can I go back to my original hboot 1.5 s-off, the other day I flashed MeanROM ICS v2.6 and upgrade my hboot to 1.58, for the 2.89 kernel
I also try out SOS M | VER 2.6, and ZR3DX-Sense 3.6, wifi teather will not work on none of those roms, any one know how to get the teathering working. I'm thinking of going back to hboot 1.5 s-off any one know how to go back to 1.5 s-off.
cc2278 said:
How can I go back to my original hboot 1.5 s-off, the other day I flashed MeanROM ICS v2.6 and upgrade my hboot to 1.58, for the 2.89 kernel
I also try out SOS M | VER 2.6, and ZR3DX-Sense 3.6, wifi teather will not work on none of those roms, any one know how to get the teathering working. I'm thinking of going back to hboot 1.5 s-off any one know how to go back to 1.5 s-off.
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Go to juopunutbear website and download hboot for GB. Rename to PG86IMG.zip and place at root of SD card. boot to boot loader. Select yes and then reboot. Don't forget to delete from SD card root!
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plaidcounty said:
Go to juopunutbear website and download hboot for GB. Rename to PG86IMG.zip and place at root of SD card. boot to boot loader. Select yes and then reboot. Don't forget to delete from SD card root!
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I'll try that thanks.
cc2278 said:
How can I go back to my original hboot 1.5 s-off, the other day I flashed MeanROM ICS v2.6 and upgrade my hboot to 1.58, for the 2.89 kernel
I also try out SOS M | VER 2.6, and ZR3DX-Sense 3.6, wifi teather will not work on none of those roms, any one know how to get the teathering working. I'm thinking of going back to hboot 1.5 s-off any one know how to go back to 1.5 s-off.
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I answered you on the other place you posted this.
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plaidcounty said:
Go to juopunutbear website and download hboot for GB. Rename to PG86IMG.zip and place at root of SD card. boot to boot loader. Select yes and then reboot. Don't forget to delete from SD card root!
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Thanks! This worked great. My research had me thinking the only way to do this was a ridiculously complex 15 step process.
I did the OTA update to ICS and hboot 1.58 and was trying to flash to PagePlus but ran into problems doing "APN Backup and Restore"; it's not allowed on ICS, I tried to go back to a gingerbread ROM but it kept bootlooping because I had hboot 1.58. Your advice got me back to hboot 1.50, then I installed an old cyanogenmod ROM, so I can do the APN backup.
Running Viper3D 1.0.0 Nightly on my Evo, I think I updated it in August or September last. I know they push light updates here and there that add new features or bug fixes, but lately I haven't been able to acquire a recent update. I went to the infectedrom forum where the Viper3D is posted and when I click the Nightly folder on androidfilehost there are about 8-10 posts. Now at the beginning of the posts they say like Oct 12, Oct 15, Oct 19, etc. But they also have a 88kb zipmd5 file below each 600+mb zip file which confuses me. Before androidfilehost changed, it just had one specific file that you download, flash, and done. But I tried to open the .zip file and the zipmd5 file and it comes back with error (bad). I'm using 4ext testing rc by the way.
Also, I recently s-offed using JBear (don't know how to spell it off hand) using the wire trick and installed the custom JBear hboot and for some reason when I place a PG86IMG.zip on the root of my SD card and boot into fastboot, it says "CID Incorrect update failed" for some reason.
If anyone can give me a pointer as to what I'm doing wrong or to what I need to do, please take the time and tell me. Much appreciated. Thank you.
if you look closely you'll see that the files on androidfilehot have a particular revision number too. the latest right now is r202. so it would look something like this "Viper3D_19Oct12_0656_r202_s.zip". theres no need to download the md5 zip.
people get corrupted zips mostly because they use IDM to dl. I'd suggest you dl from your browser (chrome or firefox)
As for the PG86IMG issue i'm not sure. If you are a gsm user you should downgrade to 1.49 using this method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1906172
Hey guys, what's up? I'm also running viper 3d on sprint with the latest radios s-off. In the latest update r202 in the settings, the system update option is missing. Along with firmware, data profile, and prl update are missing too. The last update r192 had them but not the new one. I reflashed the Rom a few times and still the same thing. Does anybody know what files and apks are missing and how I can implement them into the Rom to make it work again?
Okay thank you very much for clearing that up for me. before androidfilehost changed I used to download them from my phone using Dolphin Browser and they seemed to flash fine... Until now. I downloaded the latest and when it got to 633mb it said download failed. What is IDM or whatever you mentioned? Also, what's with the zipmd5 files then?
I'm using the Virgin Mobile Evo V. (CDMA) hboot 1.57. I think it might have something to do with JBear's custom hboot, but then again I could be wrong.
TheKnux said:
I'm using the Virgin Mobile Evo V. (CDMA) hboot 1.57. I think it might have something to do with JBear's custom hboot, but then again I could be wrong.
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That is important information. Since you have an Evo V instead of the Sprint model, the CID in the android-info.txt file that's included in the PG86IMG.zip files intended for that phone is SPCS_002 instead of SPCS_001. There is a note regarding this on the OP of the Viper 3D ROM thread.
Changing that will allow you to flash the PG86IMG.zip, but be very careful since flashing files intended for other phones can cause serious problems.
You might want to review this thread to see how other people with the Evo V have handled it.
ramjet73
Its happening with me too...
I have downloaded r195 and r202 like 5-6 times from every browser..and the dl completes but whenever i open the zip it gives error
[Viper3D_1.0.0_R284.zip] Phone Stuck while boot up
I have tried several flashing the latest rom by viper3d and the phone gets stuck after it says HTC EVO 3D, and then it flips over and it has a picture of a viper with the words VIPER 3D. It just stays there. I've never had a problem with their previous roms. I'm not sure what is wrong. Can someone please help me. Here is my recovery information.
-Revolutionary-
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.40.1100
RADIO-0.97.10.0530
eMMC-boot
Jun 8 2011, 17:20:22
HTC EVO 3D » virus » root » Viper3D » Nightly »
Ironman_1218 said:
Can someone please help me. Here is my recovery information.
-Revolutionary-
SHOOTER XC SHIP S-OFF RL
HBOOT-1.40.1100
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Check the OP (or several recent posts) in that thread. The current version (r284) requires hboot 1.58 or JBear 1.58.5858 to boot, although virus posted recently that he found a way to remove that restriction so the next version may not.
ramjet73
ramjet73 said:
Check the OP (or several recent posts) in that thread. The current version (r284) requires hboot 1.58 or JBear 1.58.5858 to boot, although virus posted recently that he found a way to remove that restriction so the next version may not.
ramjet73
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is there an easy way to upgrade my hboot to 1.58 or JBear 1.58.5858? Or do you suggest that I stay at my lower hboot version?
Ironman_1218 said:
is there an easy way to upgrade my hboot to 1.58 or JBear 1.58.5858? Or do you suggest that I stay at my lower hboot version?
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Pretty easy since you are S-OFF.
ramjet73
Iv got hboot 1.4 and s-off
but when i load a JB rom it gets stuck in the loading screen.
what am i missing that i need to do?
thanks
mike
birddseedd said:
Iv got hboot 1.4 and s-off
but when i load a JB rom it gets stuck in the loading screen.
what am i missing that i need to do?
thanks
mike
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I suggested in another thread that you should try 4EXT recovery and use the "format all partitions except SD card" option before flashing the ROM.
Have you tried that yet?
ramjet73
you need s-off, non-ics bootloader and updated radio. 4ext recovery is good for evo 3d
where do i get the bootloader and radio? i installed 4ext and formatted all partitions and now jb roms just restart at loading screen.
OK, the same exact thing happened to me the other day, even though i had the newest radio and Hboot 1.4, JB roms still wouldn't boot.
I tried everything, but the only thing that fixed it was to run an RUU, then reflash Hboot 1.5 or lower (i am using 1.04 ENG), after that, (using 4EXT recovery) JB roms would boot!
Don't worry, you will remain S-OFF after the RUU.
iv yet to find an RUU that works for my phone
the problem with ruu is my phone is cloned to run on boost. if i ruu that will be undone
just to keep everything straight ill post waht iv done so far.
shooter xc ship s-off rl
hboot 1.40.1100
radio 1.09.00.0706
eMMC-boot
Jun 8 2011, 17:20:22
4ext recovery v1.0.0.5 rc8
i believe i have the latest firmware.
last roms tried were android revolution HD 2.0.1
and slimbean 1.1
revolution will go to htc quietly briliant screen and hang there for a while then reboot.
slimbean reboots quite quickly at the same screen.
i cannot think of anything else other than ruu and start over from scratch. 150 bucks later.
any help or ideas are much appriciated
birddseedd said:
just to keep everything straight ill post waht iv done so far.
shooter xc ship s-off rl
hboot 1.40.1100
radio 1.09.00.0706
eMMC-boot
Jun 8 2011, 17:20:22
4ext recovery v1.0.0.5 rc8
i believe i have the latest firmware.
last roms tried were android revolution HD 2.0.1
and slimbean 1.1
revolution will go to htc quietly briliant screen and hang there for a while then reboot.
slimbean reboots quite quickly at the same screen.
i cannot think of anything else other than ruu and start over from scratch. 150 bucks later.
any help or ideas are much appriciated
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I guess it comes down to how badly you want to run the JB ROM's. If you know for sure that flashing the RUU will mess up your boost flash then I wouldn't do it, but if you don't know then only you can decide if it's worth risking $50 for a Boost re-flash if it doesn't work.
ramjet73
Can you recommend any good ics roms? i was using d3rp's lights out but some people, myself included, have issues with the phone and messegening having lag.
birddseedd said:
Can you recommend any good ics roms? i was using d3rp's lights out but some people, myself included, have issues with the phone and messegening having lag.
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I mentioned this is in the ROM discussion thread already, but I suggest giving the Negalite BluROM a try, and there are many other good Sense 3.6 ICS ROM's in the development forum.
ramjet73
I tried that one. i couldnt seen nto find the app for messegening tho. iv got a couple. guess ill have to keep digging till i find what i need.
birddseedd said:
I tried that one. i couldnt seen nto find the app for messegening tho. iv got a couple. guess ill have to keep digging till i find what i need.
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My advice would be to stay on a ROM that seems promising for at least a week and try to get some help in that thread to resolve whatever issues you have rather than bouncing around from thread to thread. Any ROM is going to take a little time to settle in and for you to get more familiar and comfortable with it.
ramjet73
i did like that one, but the lag was a problem it had since hte beginning and seems to be sparatic from different users experiencing it. i dotn knwo if there are multiple versions of hte evo 3d or maybe ther eare just some conditions that are different from soem people that are hard to track down. but that is a specific problem they had over 3 versions.
CCCRRAAAAPPPP...... i think updating the firmware broke my phone. my account cannot be validated.....
well. seems iv already hosed my phone..... can i get the link to those ruu's again and maybe some help figuring out which one is for my evo 3d?
if its already hosed suppose theres no harm in the ruu now.
ok. with ramjet73's guidance i have gotten up and running with a stock rom. i should be unrooted. i am s-off. hboot 1.58. no working recovery
what do i need to do to root and get jb roms working. hopefully not doing whatever it is i did wrong before.
thansk for the help.
Just to give an update, i flashed an ruu and have s-off. i did install teamwin recovery and can run ics roms it appears. however it seems jb roms still cannot boot.
i am stuck and not sure where to go from here.
Did you flash Hboot 1.04, 1.4, and or 1.5? JB roms will only boot using them.
Boris Spektor said:
Did you flash Hboot 1.04, 1.4, and or 1.5? JB roms will only boot using them.
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Yes. however it still would not work. i ended up having to ruu the phone back to stock (thanks to ramjet73 for pointing out which version of the many i tried that was the correct one) and redoing the whole proccess. i still had problems, but it is working now (just gotta figure out why i only have 1x data access)
here is a hint for anyone that may be having the same trouble. i do not know if this was the issue, but install 4ext last. it was after a reinstall of 4ext that it started working. i do not know if this is what did it or if i just got lucky. as i read some people jsut have troubles and have to ruu adn do it all over again to get it to work. before doing this, just in case, try re installing 4ext. maybe that is a hint to what people cannot seem to find the problem as it does not happen often. maybe, i dont know. just glad its working.
mike