I won my Nexus Q in a contest, along with all the other Google IO gifts. I don't have a modern TV, or computer monitor, can I still use the Q with my CRT TV?
Edit: I already have one of my laptops hooked to my old TV so I can watch Netflix and other online content.
There's not really a cheap way to do it. You have to buy a converter. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&key...er&rh=n:172282,k:rca to hdmi converter&page=1
Now aside from my answer, have you considered selling the device? I have been looking for one.
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There's not really a cheap way to do it. You have to buy a converter. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&key...er&rh=n:172282,k:rca to hdmi converter&page=1
Now aside from my answer, have you considered selling the device? I have been looking for one.
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I don't want to sell it, sorry. I was pricing tvs today, and I will just buy a new tv I guess. The q intrigues me so much, that I have to get a new tv!
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I actually bought a vga to composite video converter a while back so I could hook my laptop to my old tv (I found it out by the dumpster), so instead of buying yet another converter, I think it is about time I get a new tv, they are pretty cheap right now anyway.
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I actually bought a vga to composite video converter a while back so I could hook my laptop to my old tv (I found it out by the dumpster), so instead of buying yet another converter, I think it is about time I get a new tv, they are pretty cheap right now anyway.
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Yes buy a new TV, or even look for a second hand one. Just get something that has HDMI and get whatever speakers complement the Q so you don't have to buy a separate system.
Or if you have equipment to decode the signals elsewhere you could even use a monitor.
I'm using a 46 inch screen that I picked up second hand for a lot less than a TV would have cost me and though it only seems to do HDMI to 1080p it oddly enough will take a widescreen 1200 line input and its as crisp a picture as I've ever seen! I'll probably send the sound elsewhere as it is stereo and doesn't support all the bass boom additives of more modern systems. It was produced for large businesses to use for display purposes.
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What resolution / color depth etc does the TV out give? Does it work properly with an AT&T Tilt 2 (I hear there are carrier restrictions).
Can it stream movies decently (SD card or online streaming, if bandwidth allows)? Where's a good place to get one?
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I've been using the tv out feature a lot on my tilt2. Works great! can watch movies using core player, play snes using morphgear, I even bought a little 7" tv for my car, and will be testing some different nav programs. sorry i don't know specs, but i would imagine its 800x680 like the phone. I used to use my laptop to play movies on the tv, and surprisingly the tilt2 does a better job. definately a worthy 12 $ investment! also, dont buy from china unless you want to wait 2 months!
TV out isn't a resolution in the sense of a computer screen (pixels). It is NTSC composite video, with a 4:3 aspect ratio and 525 scan lines, some of which are used for VBI and thus not on the screen. Which is fine for images/video and such but unsuitable for web browsing or anything with lots of small details.
Given the above, if your video file is not too high res for the TP2 to play in general, it should have no trouble showing it via TV out.
As for online, I have streamed using 3G both Youtube and Slingbox, and used TV out to display it on my Pioneer AVH-4000 in my car with no problems (other than the flicker that is discussed elsewhere).
Don't know about AT&T limitations since I have Verizon. Got my cable via Amazon.
ok, so no HD... I wonder, is it NTSC/PAL selectable for travelling?
The flicker issue in regards to the phone+cable, or the Pioneer unit?
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Mine gives me the option to choose which one when I plug in the TV out cable.
So, how does it look on a widescreen HD TV (21")? Does it stretch, or is that up to the TV?
I've been using it on a 42" TV to show photos and it looks fine, no lag etc and it goes portrait mode.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AV-AUDIO-VI...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item45ee3e8640
might be what you looking for
I got this one from boxwave. It's great because it also has an adaptor so you can charge the mobile at the same time as using TV-out, and it's only $19.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/htctouchproavcable/sprint-touch-pro2-av-cable_3687.htm
I'd like that projector on my next Prime please! =D
The ultra-bright 15 lumens projector which can project images and videos (or any content) on a whooping 50" wide screen.
http://www.muktware.com/news/3353/samsung-announced-phone-built-projector-mobile-world-congress
heh heh
Now that would be cool. I saw that new phone unveiled at MWC that has that. Or at least a USB adaptable version.
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Now that would be cool. I saw that new phone unveiled at MWC that has that. Or at least a USB adaptable version.
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USB adaptable version? Ooooh that sounds interesting. A plug in projector for the Prime TF201.. Yeh yeh that's the ticket!
I bet it is from these guys http://www.microvision.com/ I remember them promoting a pint sized projector for cell phones. it is rgb lasers which always keeps it in focus
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I'd like that projector on my next Prime please! =D
The ultra-bright 15 lumens projector which can project images and videos (or any content) on a whooping 50" wide screen.
http://www.muktware.com/news/3353/samsung-announced-phone-built-projector-mobile-world-congress
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While that is a cool feature, I think I would much rather have a projector as a standalone accessory, preferably one that connects to a phone/tablet via USB or HDMI.
If that phone is selling at the standard $200-299 contract price, you have to ask yourself:
"What hardware did they downgrade to be able to put this projector in and maintain their price?"
I would much rather have a kick-ass phone sans-projector and have to buy a projector at an additional expense than have a mediocre phone that contains a mediocre projector because Sammy had to build a combo device to a specific price point.
I have recently purchased an "OEM" Samsung MHL adapter. it functions as described and gives decent video quality and good audio however what they don`t tell you is that it will only output at 24hz! this means no matter how powerful your phone is it will always be limited to 24fps. this makes videos jittery especially sports and games lag like @#$%. This adapter is FAKE even if it has samsung on it. you can tell because the fake cable has the input cable in the middle. What you want to be buying is the legit Samsung adapter that outputs crystal clear 1080p video at 60hz (60fps) with great audio. it has the input cable offset to one side. Just a warining before people buy the wrong item.
good to know
Where did you buy it from?
Nice share, mate..
Did you used this for your 3vo?
I wanna know why don't you buy the adapter that provide by HTC? Few weeks ago I have a little chat with Htc customer service, and she said that htc are not recommend to use any attachments or accessories that they don't provide or provided by an unknown third party.. At the first time I was thought it was only their bloody marketing strategy.. But, later when I wanna buy a power bank for my 3vo my friend told me that he got a trouble when use it and it brick his blackberry battery like a hell.. So I think it make sense why did they suggested me to use an accessory which they provide and developed.. But a rough case is an exception, eh?
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I don't think the adapter has anything to do with the framerate of the video. The adapter is literally just an adapter, taking the video signal from the 5 pin usb and outputting it to the hdmi port.
yes i did test it on my evo 3d on both stock rom and leedroid. actually the adapter itself can affect the quality because i have seen adapters that only output to 720p.
Who has a good one and where did you get it?
GO into a bit more detail on the differences between the good and the bad.
I got mine from an ATT store, or was it a T-Mo store..
Got mine from T-mo..and it works great.
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in my case the bad adapter outputs to 1080p (more like 1080i) but the quality is a bit fuzzy with alot of jagged edges whilst the oem adapter produces actual 1080p full resolution and does not lag due to it supporting the full 60hz that the phone is capable of outputting. audio quality is about the same for each. it is not the hdmi cable i am using because i have used several including one that supports 3d @ 120hz.
How are you reading the 60 fps? I have 3 adapters, a monoprice and 2 no-name brand adapters - and all 3 report output of "1080/30P" on my LG TV.
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I have recently purchased an "OEM" Samsung MHL adapter. it functions as described and gives decent video quality and good audio however what they don`t tell you is that it will only output at 24hz! this means no matter how powerful your phone is it will always be limited to 24fps. this makes videos jittery especially sports and games lag like @#$%. This adapter is FAKE even if it has samsung on it. you can tell because the fake cable has the input cable in the middle. What you want to be buying is the legit Samsung adapter that outputs crystal clear 1080p video at 60hz (60fps) with great audio. it has the input cable offset to one side. Just a warining before people buy the wrong item.
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Please post about the actual FPS - and how you're reading the 60fps. I'm concerned that you might be spreading misinformation. After reading this thread, I decided to buy an official Samsung MHL adapter - even though I now have 3 no-name adapters.
On my LG HDTV - all outputs report as 1080P/30FPS, at least coming out of the Evo 3D. I'll continue doing testing on all 4 adapters - so I can post a comparison thread in the accessories subforum. But for now - I see no reason that I'd want to spend $25 for the Samsung MHL adapter I just received, as opposed to the $6 EBAY special I already have.
I've been thinking about it and when you look at it the price may be a decent. Yeah an Apple TV is only $99 compaired to the $299 that the Nexus Q is. While on the other side of the coin The Nexus 7 is $199 to the $499 that a new iPad is. If you want a whole Apple vs Google ecosystem in your house the Google system is actually slightly cheeper when you look at it like this.
(Of course you still have the older iPads that are $399 but that's for an old device and we all know how Apple people feel about having the 'new' thing)
I'm not even going to go into the cost differences between iPhones and Android phones. But just for a Google or Apple brand tablet and tv device It's about equal to probably being in Androids favor just looking at it quickly.
The Nexus Q also has features that you don't get in an Apple TV but instead you'd have to purchase a Sonos device. Those can be more pricey Than the Q.
I don't know the specs on them exactly or even all their options but I do know they are expensive enough that I would never consider them as they kinda just do the one thing.
The amp feature in the device was deffinatly strange to me at first. Especially with it only being a 2.0 system. $300 for just a stereo is to much.
So I really need my own sound system for suround sound to my home theater. That's cool it has an easy connection but then the amp is worthless. But if I wanted to buy a second and play music around my whole house or put put it with my secondary tv the smaller one that I don't care about surround sound with then the amp thing is acutaly pretty nice.
I'm not trying to push anyone and I doubt I'll buy one (at least right away) as I have a Roku, and a couple HTPCs doing different things. I gave my boxee to my parents. There are lots of options out there.
If I ever wanted to wire up my whole house for audio as well as connecting my tvs a couple Nexus Q's costing about $600 doesn't sound like to bad of an option.
The problem is not the price in general but the features which cause this price.
Me and many other people don't need an integrated amp... If they would sell a version without the amp i'm quite sure it could be better priced ( i'm certainly interested in paying more to support the fact that it's build in the usa although i'm not from the us myself).
I'm actually having the opposite concern than most people apparently. I don't have a stereo or surround system, so i would absolutely use the amp. Only trouble is, i also want an audio passthrough so i can pipe my xbox audio through there too. i wish the optical out was an optical in.
I have one and have been playing with it. As far as the amp, I hooked it up to a pair of pretty good Cambridge Soundworks bookshelf speakers and it sounds quite good -- but like most people I already have a 5.1 surround system for my main stereo, so this would need to be for another room if the amp was going to be useful.
I don't think most people have a pair of regular-wire speakers laying around, so I'd really like to see it have a 3.5mm jack for the more common small, powered speakers. As others have said, it also needs to play local & other network content (Netflix, Hulu, Vudu, ...) before I could see it taking off.
Definitely a cool design though!
My question would be if you hook up it's own speaker system, AND an optical system, could you get it so that you get the same room choice option when you choose music to play? (AKA use each of the speaker systems in a different room).
I love the Google ecosystem and I love the design of the Q, but the price is too high. period. No logic of iEco vs. NexEco is a sound justification (no pun intended). Google missed the mark here big time. If they would have hit the $99 price point that it should be at, I would buy 3: media room, bedroom, and bathroom. At this price point, I buy 0. When it comes down to $99 in 12/mo I may buy it.
Google needs to add the Q functionality to these new low cost google tv boxes like the Co-star. This will speed up adoption and new use cases.
The capabilities of the Q could be the best thing ever, but if you never see anyone use one, you will never buy one. By having Google Music /Movie Party something that anyone can realistically use with commodity hardware, more people will buy into the PLAY ecosystem.
The Q should be the audiophile product, and make a cheaper Q to use like a Sonos Bridge so people like me will buy one for every room in their house that hook up to 3.5mm speakers.
If nothing else, I hope the Dev community figures out how to use Q style functionality on just tablets and phones, that way I can take me box of old android phones, hook up computer speakers, connect them to my wifi, and have multiroom , multi zone audio.
Pricey!
Yeah I agree on the price being a little bit high. Yes it does come with a bunch of features, but in my opinion, who needs a built in amp? I want to pump this bad boy into my surround sound unit. I mean Apple TV is only $99 and it has some killer features, minus the built in amp. I guess I'll have to see one in action to see if it is actually worth it.
To me it's just that you don't get enough for the price. I'm not opposed to spending $300 for a device that can handle multimedia in a great way but the Q, as it stands, does nothing respective of a $300 device. Sure, the AppleTV is fairly limited considering it's $100 price tag...but there are plenty of other options out there. Boxee, WDLive, Roku, etc... all cost *significantly* less than the Q and offer far more functionality.
In the future, this device could be worth the cost...but at the present moment that's just not true. If we had the ability to "Airplay" it might be different...but as it stands very few people could even make use of the *existing* features of the device. When people come over and want to stream stuff to the device I can't expect them to only stream from Google servers...very few people actually *HAVE* anything on the Google servers.
Made in the USA. Our labor costs a lot more
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Made in the USA. Our labor costs a lot more
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Exactly. Everyone complains about **** made in China, and says "make it here, bring manufacturing back to America!" Well here is your Made in America price tag. When I get a chance I will buy to support the fact it is made here.
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Exactly. Everyone complains about **** made in China, and says "make it here, bring manufacturing back to America!" Well here is your Made in America price tag. When I get a chance I will buy to support the fact it is made here.
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Not actually true. There have been recent reports where with shipping and rising laboe costs in China where it is getting to be cheaper and more practical to make it back here in the USA. So the making it here is not the reason for the increased price. I do beleive that they are trying to push a Google dominated thing based on Apple. But I believe that will back fire on them as that is the kind of thing we dilike about Apple. It looks to me like they want you to buy both the Q and the Nexus and be tied to the Google lay store this is why they aren't offering other choices like Hulu and Netflix however they do seem to be allowing the other Dev's out there to supliment that on thier own so they won't block someone figuring out how to stream Netflix or Hulu but they aren't going to help either.
I have all 3 devices. I think the Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus are priced very reasonable and cheap in my opinion. The Nexus Q though is way over prices. I have an apple TV (only apply product) and it's much better when jailbroken of course. The Q I get google movies, youtube, and the option to listen to music. Not worth 300 dollars but if it had the full android interface with a remote then yes for sure it would be a great device to surf the web and play games on and watch all kinds of movies.
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I'm actually having the opposite concern than most people apparently. I don't have a stereo or surround system, so i would absolutely use the amp. Only trouble is, i also want an audio passthrough so i can pipe my xbox audio through there too. i wish the optical out was an optical in.
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amp is gay to me. anybody buying speakers today should be active speakers. Unless they are huge home theather then you buy a discrete amp and use pre-outs on your AVR. You could buy active large home theater speakers but they are rare and more expensive
"bookshelf" speakers need to have their own amp. the speakers were engineered to work with the amp and not some random amp in a nexus Q. amp would only be nice for head phones
any speaker that could be powered by 25 amps is going to have it's own amp in it most likely unless they are some ****ty computer speakers
Hi, i got the official S3 hdmi adapter and i only get 1080I, how can i get 1080P
I have a 1080P 55" sony 240hz led.
Or this adapter only outputs at 1080I?
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Hi, i got the official S3 hdmi adapter and i only get 1080I, how can i get 1080P
I have a 1080P 55" sony 240hz led.
Or this adapter only outputs at 1080I?
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maybe it outputs 1080p (progressive) at 30 hz only
But my tv supports 30hz, how would i make it choose 1080p and not 1080i?
and the hz are selected automatically depending on the source.
I tried my dell 24" 1080P monitor, it displayed too at 1080I, not 1080P.
Help, i want 1080P
Afaik it's not capable of such a high-bandwith format, and "only" supports up to 1080i.
So no can do as a forum search should've shown.
some people have said it works at 1080p for them in other forums.
Anyone?
Well i think it has to do with how the phone communicates with the tv.
I am only able to get 720p output. I have a 2007 westinghouse 47inch 1080p capable tv. For comparison i have a samsung droid charge that has direct hdmi2hdmi ability, and on same tv i get 1080i output, i am using oem samsung hdmi mhl adapter.
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Well i think it has to do with how the phone communicates with the tv.
I am only able to get 720p output. I have a 2007 westinghouse 47inch 1080p capable tv. For comparison i have a samsung droid charge that has direct hdmi2hdmi ability, and on same tv i get 1080i output, i am using oem samsung hdmi mhl adapter.
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I have the official MHL cable and it outputs at 1080p at 30hz, however i don't want this display type, ok yea great if i want to watch movies, but i want to play tekken with 2 pads, all i need is the mhl to do it's thing.
60fps would be amazing, however i don't believe that it's possible.
Being bottle necked at 30hz on 1080 i / p or even 720 p is just not acceptable, infact it's a kick in the teeth for the £27 i paid for the thing.
Movie's are great, games not so good, although the jelly bean update i just got did help somehow.
By the way i'm using a 47 inch 1080p capable 3D TV
You get full-hd (1080) resolution, but only at half the frequency of 1080p.
However you should keep in mind that
a) this is a phone
b) your eye is only capable of distinguishing ~24 images per second.
infact it's a kick in the teeth for the £27 i paid for the thing.
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Please tell me more about how the fact that your phone is capable of playing content at Full-HD on external screens is a "kick in the teeth"
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You get full-hd (1080) resolution, but only at half the frequency of 1080p.
However you should keep in mind that
a) this is a phone
b) your eye is only capable of distinguishing ~24 images per second.
Please tell me more about how the fact that your phone is capable of playing content at Full-HD on external screens is a "kick in the teeth"
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Because it is !!!
Other phones, ie: the iphone is capable of running games at their full potential speed using their AV link cable, which is just wonderful when i hear it from my friends who have iphones / ipads.
Movies is one thing, but to have the ability to have two pads linked to my phone via bluetooth, the ability to play an age old game on a psx emulator on my phone, I then go out and buy an MHL cable thinking that I can play it at the speed the phone is delivering and then it falls on it's arse and runs at a pitiful frame rate due to it running at 30hz and not mirroring fully, that in my opinion and many others is a kick in the teeth, it should have been thoroughly tested by samsung and not just thrown out there, and for it not to be properly looked at, the £27 price tag i paid for it, is overpriced and not worth the money.
Also about your thoughts on the human eye only having the ability to see 24 frames per second, that has nothing to do with it.
The human eye for all it's faults is still capable of seeing a difference between 24 - 30 or even 60+ fps so having a framedrop is not just noticable it's annoying.
Also the galaxy s 3 is not just a phone, it is a smart phone it is also worth £500 and capable of much more than just making and receiving phone calls, so no not just a phone, it's a device capable of much more.
When a device like the S3 has a peripheral like the MHL cable, promising mirroring of the device onto a HD TV, you tend to believe it, well i paid for it and i wished i hadn't because although it does what it says on the tin to an extent, however it does it with latency issues and input delay, rendering gaming obsolete, which is the main reason i bought this thing.
No 1080p and even no 1080i
Guys
Believe it or not the adapters that we buy from ebay or other outlets are not original although they seem to be. They have a galaxy s3 sticker on the box and Samsung usually does not produce a premium product with a sticker on the box to show it is for galaxy s3.
Anyway, even if they are original they are not able to output 1080p. TV reports 1080i but if you watch full hd (1920*1080) videos with them and you focus on the screen you can easily see that the video is played at 720p not even close to 1080p or i.
Samsung has announced that you can watch full hd videos and 1080p output. but these adapters are not able to provide such performance.
Apparently, the original packaging from samsung should look like this:
search for : "Samsung galaxy s3 OFFICIAL MHL cable HDMI unboxing" in youtube.
Please let me know your idea.
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Guys
Believe it or not the adapters that we buy from ebay or other outlets are not original although they seem to be. They have a galaxy s3 sticker on the box and Samsung usually does not produce a premium product with a sticker on the box to show it is for galaxy s3.
search for : "Samsung galaxy s3 OFFICIAL MHL cable HDMI unboxing" in youtube.
Please let me know your idea.
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Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDr7q_v7CE
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Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
The actual product looks similar but they must be copies since you can buy them for $20-$25 while the original product from Samsung is about $38. The original products have Samsung hologram on the box. However, have you investigated if the output of your cable is 1080p or not?
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Dexter_Morgan said:
Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
The actual product looks similar but they must be copies since you can buy them for $20-$25 while the original product from Samsung is about $38. The original products have Samsung hologram on the box. However, have you investigated if the output of your cable is 1080p or not?
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I have a hologram on mine, bought from a samsung retailer.
But either way i've seen different results yielded from the cable. On my Viera it's 1080i @ 60hz and on my LG it's 1080p @ 30hz, on some HDMI cables it doesn't work at all.
So yea it's a weird one.
Good for movies, utter useless for gaming. Unless it's a slow game, slight input lag.
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