S3 HDMI Adapter outputs at 1080I not 1080P? - Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi, i got the official S3 hdmi adapter and i only get 1080I, how can i get 1080P
I have a 1080P 55" sony 240hz led.
Or this adapter only outputs at 1080I?

0mega007 said:
Hi, i got the official S3 hdmi adapter and i only get 1080I, how can i get 1080P
I have a 1080P 55" sony 240hz led.
Or this adapter only outputs at 1080I?
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maybe it outputs 1080p (progressive) at 30 hz only

But my tv supports 30hz, how would i make it choose 1080p and not 1080i?
and the hz are selected automatically depending on the source.

I tried my dell 24" 1080P monitor, it displayed too at 1080I, not 1080P.
Help, i want 1080P

Afaik it's not capable of such a high-bandwith format, and "only" supports up to 1080i.
So no can do as a forum search should've shown.

some people have said it works at 1080p for them in other forums.

Anyone?

Well i think it has to do with how the phone communicates with the tv.
I am only able to get 720p output. I have a 2007 westinghouse 47inch 1080p capable tv. For comparison i have a samsung droid charge that has direct hdmi2hdmi ability, and on same tv i get 1080i output, i am using oem samsung hdmi mhl adapter.

radpp16 said:
Well i think it has to do with how the phone communicates with the tv.
I am only able to get 720p output. I have a 2007 westinghouse 47inch 1080p capable tv. For comparison i have a samsung droid charge that has direct hdmi2hdmi ability, and on same tv i get 1080i output, i am using oem samsung hdmi mhl adapter.
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I have the official MHL cable and it outputs at 1080p at 30hz, however i don't want this display type, ok yea great if i want to watch movies, but i want to play tekken with 2 pads, all i need is the mhl to do it's thing.
60fps would be amazing, however i don't believe that it's possible.
Being bottle necked at 30hz on 1080 i / p or even 720 p is just not acceptable, infact it's a kick in the teeth for the £27 i paid for the thing.
Movie's are great, games not so good, although the jelly bean update i just got did help somehow.
By the way i'm using a 47 inch 1080p capable 3D TV

You get full-hd (1080) resolution, but only at half the frequency of 1080p.
However you should keep in mind that
a) this is a phone
b) your eye is only capable of distinguishing ~24 images per second.
infact it's a kick in the teeth for the £27 i paid for the thing.
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Please tell me more about how the fact that your phone is capable of playing content at Full-HD on external screens is a "kick in the teeth"

d4fseeker said:
You get full-hd (1080) resolution, but only at half the frequency of 1080p.
However you should keep in mind that
a) this is a phone
b) your eye is only capable of distinguishing ~24 images per second.
Please tell me more about how the fact that your phone is capable of playing content at Full-HD on external screens is a "kick in the teeth"
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Because it is !!!
Other phones, ie: the iphone is capable of running games at their full potential speed using their AV link cable, which is just wonderful when i hear it from my friends who have iphones / ipads.
Movies is one thing, but to have the ability to have two pads linked to my phone via bluetooth, the ability to play an age old game on a psx emulator on my phone, I then go out and buy an MHL cable thinking that I can play it at the speed the phone is delivering and then it falls on it's arse and runs at a pitiful frame rate due to it running at 30hz and not mirroring fully, that in my opinion and many others is a kick in the teeth, it should have been thoroughly tested by samsung and not just thrown out there, and for it not to be properly looked at, the £27 price tag i paid for it, is overpriced and not worth the money.
Also about your thoughts on the human eye only having the ability to see 24 frames per second, that has nothing to do with it.
The human eye for all it's faults is still capable of seeing a difference between 24 - 30 or even 60+ fps so having a framedrop is not just noticable it's annoying.
Also the galaxy s 3 is not just a phone, it is a smart phone it is also worth £500 and capable of much more than just making and receiving phone calls, so no not just a phone, it's a device capable of much more.
When a device like the S3 has a peripheral like the MHL cable, promising mirroring of the device onto a HD TV, you tend to believe it, well i paid for it and i wished i hadn't because although it does what it says on the tin to an extent, however it does it with latency issues and input delay, rendering gaming obsolete, which is the main reason i bought this thing.

No 1080p and even no 1080i
Guys
Believe it or not the adapters that we buy from ebay or other outlets are not original although they seem to be. They have a galaxy s3 sticker on the box and Samsung usually does not produce a premium product with a sticker on the box to show it is for galaxy s3.
Anyway, even if they are original they are not able to output 1080p. TV reports 1080i but if you watch full hd (1920*1080) videos with them and you focus on the screen you can easily see that the video is played at 720p not even close to 1080p or i.
Samsung has announced that you can watch full hd videos and 1080p output. but these adapters are not able to provide such performance.
Apparently, the original packaging from samsung should look like this:
search for : "Samsung galaxy s3 OFFICIAL MHL cable HDMI unboxing" in youtube.
Please let me know your idea.

imansamga3 said:
Guys
Believe it or not the adapters that we buy from ebay or other outlets are not original although they seem to be. They have a galaxy s3 sticker on the box and Samsung usually does not produce a premium product with a sticker on the box to show it is for galaxy s3.
search for : "Samsung galaxy s3 OFFICIAL MHL cable HDMI unboxing" in youtube.
Please let me know your idea.
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Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCDr7q_v7CE

Dexter_Morgan said:
Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
The actual product looks similar but they must be copies since you can buy them for $20-$25 while the original product from Samsung is about $38. The original products have Samsung hologram on the box. However, have you investigated if the output of your cable is 1080p or not?
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imansamga3 said:
Dexter_Morgan said:
Interesting. Mine looks like the one in the video below and has a sticker on the box. I have only used it once and was happy with the result. Could it not be that Samsung hadn't produced the boxes for the earlier released product as my actual lead looks the same.
The actual product looks similar but they must be copies since you can buy them for $20-$25 while the original product from Samsung is about $38. The original products have Samsung hologram on the box. However, have you investigated if the output of your cable is 1080p or not?
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I have a hologram on mine, bought from a samsung retailer.
But either way i've seen different results yielded from the cable. On my Viera it's 1080i @ 60hz and on my LG it's 1080p @ 30hz, on some HDMI cables it doesn't work at all.
So yea it's a weird one.
Good for movies, utter useless for gaming. Unless it's a slow game, slight input lag.
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TV Out?

What resolution / color depth etc does the TV out give? Does it work properly with an AT&T Tilt 2 (I hear there are carrier restrictions).
Can it stream movies decently (SD card or online streaming, if bandwidth allows)? Where's a good place to get one?
Thanks
I've been using the tv out feature a lot on my tilt2. Works great! can watch movies using core player, play snes using morphgear, I even bought a little 7" tv for my car, and will be testing some different nav programs. sorry i don't know specs, but i would imagine its 800x680 like the phone. I used to use my laptop to play movies on the tv, and surprisingly the tilt2 does a better job. definately a worthy 12 $ investment! also, dont buy from china unless you want to wait 2 months!
TV out isn't a resolution in the sense of a computer screen (pixels). It is NTSC composite video, with a 4:3 aspect ratio and 525 scan lines, some of which are used for VBI and thus not on the screen. Which is fine for images/video and such but unsuitable for web browsing or anything with lots of small details.
Given the above, if your video file is not too high res for the TP2 to play in general, it should have no trouble showing it via TV out.
As for online, I have streamed using 3G both Youtube and Slingbox, and used TV out to display it on my Pioneer AVH-4000 in my car with no problems (other than the flicker that is discussed elsewhere).
Don't know about AT&T limitations since I have Verizon. Got my cable via Amazon.
ok, so no HD... I wonder, is it NTSC/PAL selectable for travelling?
The flicker issue in regards to the phone+cable, or the Pioneer unit?
Thanks
dzr said:
ok, so no HD... I wonder, is it NTSC/PAL selectable for travelling?
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Mine gives me the option to choose which one when I plug in the TV out cable.
So, how does it look on a widescreen HD TV (21")? Does it stretch, or is that up to the TV?
I've been using it on a 42" TV to show photos and it looks fine, no lag etc and it goes portrait mode.
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-AV-AUDIO-VI...wItemQQptZPDA_Accessories?hash=item45ee3e8640
might be what you looking for
I got this one from boxwave. It's great because it also has an adaptor so you can charge the mobile at the same time as using TV-out, and it's only $19.
http://www.boxwave.com/products/htctouchproavcable/sprint-touch-pro2-av-cable_3687.htm

[Q] Atrix webtop resolution issues - stretched and blurry on several monitors

Love the atrix. bought the doc and its all high quality stuff..
issue: when i plug in the dock it seems like my monitors must be old or something because on my main 42" lcd, it can't display the correct resoluion, and on the other computer monitors it can only display the 'wrong' resolution meaning my 1920x1200 monitor can do the 720 tall, and the other 1080p monitor gets forced on the 768 tall res..
is there a way to set the resolution so it matches natively with one of our monitors resoluion standards? i plan on makin this phone my media center but its all outa wack on aspect ratio and blurry as hell due to the re-scaling. can't seem to find the resolution setup anywhere. when you first hook up a new monitor, it gives you the option (maybe 2 mabye 6 different res to choose from) but none of those work except the bad stretched out ones.. and hell yo ucan't get back to that screen ever again!
Nope. It really only works well with a big television or a really small LCD monitor. In which case, why not just get a PC? Im finding it difficult to use this dock for anything really. It isnt good at any single thing.
psufan5 said:
Nope. It really only works well with a big television or a really small LCD monitor. In which case, why not just get a PC? Im finding it difficult to use this dock for anything really. It isnt good at any single thing.
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Im going to take the hdmi cable w me to wallmart and try a bunch of cheap lcd tv's.. one of them will work. Ill report out.
twistedneck said:
Im going to take the hdmi cable w me to wallmart and try a bunch of cheap lcd tv's.. one of them will work. Ill report out.
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got a super cheat dynex 1080p tv that supports the phone webtop application perfectly. nice and clear. now my main issues are as follows:
1. upnp - mkv's wont play
2. hulu is a bit sluggish but does play smoothly when it gets moving.
3. samba working great but again, need way to play mkv's on android
4. netflix states that the browser version is not compatible! sucks.
works great for a back room media server and the cool factor is tops.
Convert the mkvs to WMVs. That seems to work the best for me and keeps original quality. I had to convert my 1920x1080 movies to 1920x1020 because the webtop seems to zoom every move on my plasma and I cant do anything about it. So by reducing the height of the video, it now fits perfectly on a 50 inch plasma.

Beware MHL HDMI Adapter Scam! Poor Quality!

I have recently purchased an "OEM" Samsung MHL adapter. it functions as described and gives decent video quality and good audio however what they don`t tell you is that it will only output at 24hz! this means no matter how powerful your phone is it will always be limited to 24fps. this makes videos jittery especially sports and games lag like @#$%. This adapter is FAKE even if it has samsung on it. you can tell because the fake cable has the input cable in the middle. What you want to be buying is the legit Samsung adapter that outputs crystal clear 1080p video at 60hz (60fps) with great audio. it has the input cable offset to one side. Just a warining before people buy the wrong item.
good to know
Where did you buy it from?
Nice share, mate..
Did you used this for your 3vo?
I wanna know why don't you buy the adapter that provide by HTC? Few weeks ago I have a little chat with Htc customer service, and she said that htc are not recommend to use any attachments or accessories that they don't provide or provided by an unknown third party.. At the first time I was thought it was only their bloody marketing strategy.. But, later when I wanna buy a power bank for my 3vo my friend told me that he got a trouble when use it and it brick his blackberry battery like a hell.. So I think it make sense why did they suggested me to use an accessory which they provide and developed.. But a rough case is an exception, eh?
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I don't think the adapter has anything to do with the framerate of the video. The adapter is literally just an adapter, taking the video signal from the 5 pin usb and outputting it to the hdmi port.
yes i did test it on my evo 3d on both stock rom and leedroid. actually the adapter itself can affect the quality because i have seen adapters that only output to 720p.
Who has a good one and where did you get it?
GO into a bit more detail on the differences between the good and the bad.
I got mine from an ATT store, or was it a T-Mo store..
Got mine from T-mo..and it works great.
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in my case the bad adapter outputs to 1080p (more like 1080i) but the quality is a bit fuzzy with alot of jagged edges whilst the oem adapter produces actual 1080p full resolution and does not lag due to it supporting the full 60hz that the phone is capable of outputting. audio quality is about the same for each. it is not the hdmi cable i am using because i have used several including one that supports 3d @ 120hz.
How are you reading the 60 fps? I have 3 adapters, a monoprice and 2 no-name brand adapters - and all 3 report output of "1080/30P" on my LG TV.
ryanjsoo said:
I have recently purchased an "OEM" Samsung MHL adapter. it functions as described and gives decent video quality and good audio however what they don`t tell you is that it will only output at 24hz! this means no matter how powerful your phone is it will always be limited to 24fps. this makes videos jittery especially sports and games lag like @#$%. This adapter is FAKE even if it has samsung on it. you can tell because the fake cable has the input cable in the middle. What you want to be buying is the legit Samsung adapter that outputs crystal clear 1080p video at 60hz (60fps) with great audio. it has the input cable offset to one side. Just a warining before people buy the wrong item.
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Please post about the actual FPS - and how you're reading the 60fps. I'm concerned that you might be spreading misinformation. After reading this thread, I decided to buy an official Samsung MHL adapter - even though I now have 3 no-name adapters.
On my LG HDTV - all outputs report as 1080P/30FPS, at least coming out of the Evo 3D. I'll continue doing testing on all 4 adapters - so I can post a comparison thread in the accessories subforum. But for now - I see no reason that I'd want to spend $25 for the Samsung MHL adapter I just received, as opposed to the $6 EBAY special I already have.

Any way to use the Nexus Q with a CRT TV?

I won my Nexus Q in a contest, along with all the other Google IO gifts. I don't have a modern TV, or computer monitor, can I still use the Q with my CRT TV?
Edit: I already have one of my laptops hooked to my old TV so I can watch Netflix and other online content.
There's not really a cheap way to do it. You have to buy a converter. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&key...er&rh=n:172282,k:rca to hdmi converter&page=1
Now aside from my answer, have you considered selling the device? I have been looking for one.
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TheIowaKid said:
There's not really a cheap way to do it. You have to buy a converter. http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8&key...er&rh=n:172282,k:rca to hdmi converter&page=1
Now aside from my answer, have you considered selling the device? I have been looking for one.
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I don't want to sell it, sorry. I was pricing tvs today, and I will just buy a new tv I guess. The q intrigues me so much, that I have to get a new tv!
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I actually bought a vga to composite video converter a while back so I could hook my laptop to my old tv (I found it out by the dumpster), so instead of buying yet another converter, I think it is about time I get a new tv, they are pretty cheap right now anyway.
yellowjacket1981 said:
I actually bought a vga to composite video converter a while back so I could hook my laptop to my old tv (I found it out by the dumpster), so instead of buying yet another converter, I think it is about time I get a new tv, they are pretty cheap right now anyway.
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Yes buy a new TV, or even look for a second hand one. Just get something that has HDMI and get whatever speakers complement the Q so you don't have to buy a separate system.
Or if you have equipment to decode the signals elsewhere you could even use a monitor.
I'm using a 46 inch screen that I picked up second hand for a lot less than a TV would have cost me and though it only seems to do HDMI to 1080p it oddly enough will take a widescreen 1200 line input and its as crisp a picture as I've ever seen! I'll probably send the sound elsewhere as it is stereo and doesn't support all the bass boom additives of more modern systems. It was produced for large businesses to use for display purposes.

[Q] 1080p over MHL?

Can anyone achieve full 1080p over MHL with their DNA?
I have tried two different MHL cable/adapters (A red Skiva aftermarket cable and the PNY MHL Smart Adapter w/monster cable HDMI cable) and I can only get 720p. I have tried this on two tv's (50" Pioneer Plasma and a 42" Visio LCD) that support 1080p.
I know what the hardware is theoretically capable of, however I wish to know if anyone has personally achieved full 1080p HD output.
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As far as I can tell videos play in 1080p but everything else only shows in 720p. Pretty disapointing because that's one of the reasons I got this phone, I assumed everything would be 1080p but as it is there's no difference between the output of this phone and the one x on mhl .
I have a 46" Toshiba LCD and when I plug in the mhl adpter I got from monoprice.com. The tv shows a 1080p signal whether I am on the home screen or watching a video.
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Just as nrage, my rocketfish MHL adapter from Best Buy is always displaying 1080p, no matter what screen is showing on my phone.
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Yes my tv also says "1080p" up in the corner when I connect the phone through hdmi, however the quality of what I see on the screen is most definitely not 1080p. Looks more like 720p when I'm in any part of the OS or even the browser or most other app, and when I fire up the Netflix app it looks like 480p at best. Now when I play a HD youtube video or a personal video shot in 1080p you see it right away, BIG difference! Crystal clear picture as if I was watching a blue ray. So technically its on 1080p but for whatever reason it looks degraded except for youtube and videos. This is exactly the way the HTC One X acted, 1080p on youtube and vids and 720p or below everywhere else. The thing is that the One X has a 720p screen so I didn't expect to see 1080p in the OS or regular apps cause it's just mirroring whats on the phones screen, the DNA as you all know has a 1080p so it was a bummer to see the degraded quality in hdmi out. Who knows, maybe it's my cheap ebay adapters fault but I doubt it cause if that was the case then it probably wouldn't show youtubes in good quality either.

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