How is the development? Might trade for my HTC One X. - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

Right now the HTC one x development is pretty slow, and while I do have a great ROM I always love getting new devices and flashing new ROMs. I love having a lot of ROMs to cater to my flash addiction. Is this phones development going to last awhile? I know there will be a new note that will come up soon, and I don't want to be left behind. Has anybody don't this switch? Or has anybody played with body devices and can give some pros and cons? Thanks!

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Stud, awesome picture!
Need to add that as a wallpaper or shoot put it on the GNote super page, that pic is good to go, brother!
Get'n a Fix!

Note has great development and probably will for awhile
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thinking that the note will be around for a while....It has a large following, and good Dev support, not only on stock roms, but AOSP-AOKP as well.
We are just getting our feet wet on the note.
And the note 2 will bring ported content back for us also, including the X....
I'm staying here.....g

The development on the note is fantastic (JellyBean is 99% bug-free with h0tw1r3's CM10 kang and we have CM9, MIUI, Paranoid Android, AOKP and many other ROMs actively under development.

Shaddy-Z. said:
Right now the HTC one x development is pretty slow, and while I do have a great ROM I always love getting new devices and flashing new ROMs. I love having a lot of ROMs to cater to my flash addiction. Is this phones development going to last awhile? I know there will be a new note that will come up soon, and I don't want to be left behind. Has anybody don't this switch? Or has anybody played with body devices and can give some pros and cons? Thanks!
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Greg hit the mark with his reply, the note is a unique beast externally but all of Samsungs high end lte line of phones are fundamentally the same internally. This bodes well for an extended development cycle.
One quick question about the HTC One X. Samsung has been pretty good with source code releases, what is the current experience with HTC? Do you find them forth coming with source code and drivers. If that has been the case, what other factor(s) do you think could account for the HTCs One X lackluster rom development?
The hardware your phone carries is high end, impressive specs; I would have thought developers were all over it.
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Also curious about the HTC One X -- those are going cheap right now at least in my area, might need a good beater for those small-pocket days. Screen size is OK after using a Note, anybody?

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One quick question about the HTC One X. Samsung has been pretty good with source code releases, what is the current experience with HTC? Do you find them forth coming with source code and drivers. If that has been the case, what other factor(s) do you think could account for the HTCs One X lackluster rom development?
The hardware your phone carries is high end, impressive specs; I would have thought developers were all over it.
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We waited about 2 months to finally get a source code released. During this time period all members of the HOX community were sending ATT emails and constantly bombing their facebook mostly for the fact that our Bootloader was locked, and HTC stated they will provide official Bootloader unlocks on every phone they will release. Well HTC still hasn't kept up their promise and for new comers it's very hard to join the dev community because with the recent update there is no bootloader or root exploit. With the recent source code release I would like to think that development would be booming but I'm completely wrong. The code we got released wasn't even a full source code, but instead half. And to make matters worse it's already outdated, because the source that was released was 4.0.3 and we are on 4.0.4 now. The only bugs that we have been able to fix with the source code is Multi-touch on AOKP roms (thank god it really borked gaming on this device :good: ) We have one kernel that is released but it's not able to be used on a lot of ROM's because it's set on the old base, but everybody is on 4.0.4 now. The dev's are really working hard on making this phone the best they can, but HTC is making it very very difficult. The international version has a lot of dev support because of how powerful this phone can be. But I guess ATT is behind keeping back the updated source and an official BL unlock which makes me mad
The phone itself though is great. The screen is spectacular and I'd even go as far to say it's the best I've seen on a mobile device. The processor is very quick, and when I did have it overclocked to 2.1 ghz it reacted very well and I still got excellent battery life. My average battery life right now is about 3 hours of screen on time. I'm on CM9 ATM because it's the best vanilla experience we have. Hopefully that answers all your questions guys!

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What's next?

We have bolt now, samsung charge droid next week...
What's coming soon with 4g? Trying to decide should I get bolt or what?
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If your a believer in Bionic actually coming to being, that's on the horizon.
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If your a believer in Bionic actually coming to being, that's on the horizon.
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Well, isnt the Atrix the sister of Bionic? I heard from VZW that it was delay due to melting issue. Over heat in situation due to the dual core it uses.
Motorola phones are pointless if you care about aosp kernels etc
Also you are supporting the company that wants root community to die...screw them
I like the fascinate, I dont like samsung, the samsung charge looks a lot like the fascinate, with LTE, and front facing camera, I think is better than the thunderbolt, but again, what good is it to have an unencrypted bootloader if the source codes are not released by samsung, see how we have managed with the fascinate, just hunting for leaks, fortunately we have better releases from our devs than from samsung or verizon, and it is very true what Nitsuj17 wrote, we dont want to support a company that wants to control how you use your owned and purchased with your hard earned money phone, screw motorola.
in simple words, I think I am leaning towards samsung charge
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I like the fascinate, I dont like samsung, the samsung charge looks a lot like the fascinate, with LTE, and front facing camera, I think is better than the thunderbolt, but again, what good is it to have an unencrypted bootloader if the source codes are not released by samsung, see how we have managed with the fascinate, just hunting for leaks, fortunately we have better releases from our devs than from samsung or verizon, and it is very true what Nitsuj17 wrote, we dont want to support a company that wants to control how you use your owned and purchased with your hard earned money phone, screw motorola.
in simple words, I think I am leaning towards samsung charge
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Wasn't the source code for the Charge released already? And I've been hearing HTC is slowly following Moto's footsteps in locking their bootloaders.
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Wasn't the source code for the Charge released already? And I've been hearing HTC is slowly following Moto's footsteps in locking their bootloaders.
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Correct and correct. Cyanogen (of all people) has actually picked LG over HTC for his next phone because of this.
I have been with samsung since my first cellphone back in 2004, I will be getting the charge when the price drops.
I think all of them will eventually lock bootloader. Either that or suck.**** on release like samsung. Tbolt looks promising, so is charger.
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Had omina, had omina 2, now fascinate. Not sure if sammay will be next again
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smilepak said:
Had omina, had omina 2, now fascinate. Not sure if sammay will be next again
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Same here. I think I'm addicted to the AMOLED screens (cause it sure isn't TouchWiz, using SPB Mobile Shell on the Omnias and LauncherPro on the Fascinate).
The Charge is the new 'big brother' to the Fascinate. The same guts more or less (nothing has changed profoundly), but the 4.3" SuperAMOLED+ Screen vs the 4" SuperAMOLED screen is sexy. Then you sprinkle a little 4G in there and some new cameras, and bam, you have the Charge.
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With the OTA 2.2 update tho I'm pretty damn happy with my Fascinate once again. I really think it'd take a screamin' dual core 4G phone to make me really want to jump to a new on.
Yeah I think a dual core would make me more likely to upgrade even sooner.
The charge originally was supposed to be a dual core, but alas it was not to be.
$300 is steep, but if you think about it, its the exact same price as a 32gb iphone.
Think how much better a charge will be than an iphone:
almost 1 inch larger next gen screen.
lte
not stuck on inferior os
etc etc
If you think about it that way, the price seems much more palatable.
I just hope they make the physical buttons better than the DX. Those were flimsy.
That is steep. All of my last four phones were all under 250. Charge has less ram than tbolt. So what warrant the price?
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nitsuj17 said:
Motorola phones are pointless if you care about aosp kernels etc
Also you are supporting the company that wants root community to die...screw them
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Agreed 100%!!!!!
I'll be making my next purchase in December, or Q1 2012, and who knows what will be out to public by then. Tegra 3 please.
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I'll be making my next purchase in December, or Q1 2012, and who knows what will be out to public by then. Tegra 3 please.
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Tegra 3 on cellphone is overkill. I dont want explosion in my pants.
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[Q] CM9 for the Legend?

Hi
anybody knows if there will be a CM 9 for Legend or is it not capable of running due to low RAM and ROM
It is capable to run it, but no one is going to port it. CM dropped support.
alright...well i guess it is understandable.. it is after all not a very high powered phone albeit it was qutie expensive...
Thx...time to upgrade
I can't wait!!
from http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
Our goal is to provide continued support to all CM7 devices back to the QSD8250 series of devices such as the Nexus One.
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HTC Legend has Qualcomm MSM7227, which is older than QSD8250 (the first Snapdragon) stated in the quote above. It's unlikely that Legend will get CM9.
@Mangosharp ผมไม่คิดว่า CM9 สำหรับ Legend จะมาเร็ว ๆ นี้นะครับ ... อาจจะไม่มาเลยด้วย
PS. MSM7x30 stated in the link above is not the same as other MSM7000-based SoC. It's a Snapdragon series SoC. Don't let the name fool you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3FSomVYrr0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Although we may not have the backing of the CM team, we can always hope for this. Although I personally will not. I'm happy with Gingerbread and although I can imagine ICS running quite smoothly on our Legend (in comparison to the Hero), maybe it's time to settle and switch.
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ICS on our Legends
Well, I'm not quite sure what to think atm. Ali Ba, the official maintainer of CM Legend port stated in his blog that he already compiled ICS!
It's about 100 megs zipped, 140 on system, no problem for the Legend.
Reading the official cm post with dropping all older devices from continued support is totally the opposite direction.
I strongly believe that we will see ICS on our Legends sooner or later, maybe not as a CM release but I expect Ali Ba to finish a ROM.
Ali Ba never said all these.... (any source with you) . ??
Read this post -- >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19723325&postcount=3665
Fact is Legend is Old, dead and dumb for ICS
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Ali Ba never said all these.... (any source with you) . ??
Read this post -- >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19723325&postcount=3665
Fact is Legend is Old, dead and dumb for ICS
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First of all thank you for kind and very polite answer.
The source can be found here http://derhofbauer.at/blog/ but after reading the post you provided and noticing it's newer, I think the time to switch has arrived.
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Thats not the android way... Legend will evenctually get ICS...
I believe in Ali Ba !!! Our legend might not be powerful but afterall it has decent processor and can be overclocked to around 800mhz, which i think can flawlessly run ics for everyday use... it has been shown in gingerbread custom roms today plus our xda devs are getting smarter every day lol.. anyway i do believe Ali Ba will release an ICS custom rom for our device, if its not cyano.. it would be sumthin else sooner or later and ICS will also be released in otherel phones, that makes the chance higher for the dev to compare codes and built one for us i believe in Ali Ba !!!
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Thats not the android way... Legend will evenctually get ICS...
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Who's going to port ..? You ??
Well getting ICS compiled for the device does not necessarily mean it could run on the device. All of us can get the ICS code from Google and build the image ourselves, but it's far from having the actual thing run on the device.
We could get the image, flash it to the device, and have another nice legendary paperweight (well at least in the worst case). Who knows ?
I'm getting the AOSP code since last night (it's horribly 6GB of code), just for the sake of studying how system applications are written (you don't really need it, anyway). If I have some spare time, I might try to build one.
Hello, still it would be nice to have port, b'cause I like my Legend. ICS on Samsung galaxy tab looks very nice.
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please check this link its says.....cm9 is there in development!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1521367
hey the Legend is going to get the ICS..
the port has already begun
refer thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1505017
This chart here from the CM G+ Page should address everyone who asks that tiresome question:
https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/XzbMYgotkmy
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Check out nearly full working ROM (except GPS and Camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562595
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Check out nearly full working ROM (except GPS and Camera):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1562595
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Just to mention: For me VOICE SEARCH not work at all!

[Q] asop or stock gb

anyone working on a stock gb or asop rom for this device?
I use go launcher and it is a lot better than the samsung touchwiz default launcher. the other samsung touchwiz items do not bother me
That actually has nothing to do with what the thread was created for.
Give it time, people will start to develop for this phone as time passes
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I doubt anyone will bother with AOSP GB, most people seem to be waiting to do ICS roms, which is what this device should have come with anyway.
Most will be waiting to dev ics? That's honestly the most bs answer I've ever received on this site in my life. That's like saying they are going to develop yellow snow in hell but waiting for it to snow....
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Most will be waiting to dev ics? That's honestly the most bs answer I've ever received on this site in my life. That's like saying they are going to develop yellow snow in hell but waiting for it to snow....
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Assume what you will, but if I were a developer and I had any inkling that an OS update was on the horizon for the phone I'm using, I'd probably opt to not develop for an OS that will be obsolete, since it's likely that no one would even use the ROM once ICS is out.
In other words, if I were a developer, I'd wait for ICS too.
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Most will be waiting to dev ics? That's honestly the most bs answer I've ever received on this site in my life. That's like saying they are going to develop yellow snow in hell but waiting for it to snow....
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Am i wrong in saying that lol
Rom devs need source code to work from.
Alot of what you see going on right now is piddly because without source code, not much can be done (based on my limited understanding of how this all works).
Not to discount the one or two roms out there now, its a good start but Samsung needs to give up the goods.
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Rom devs need source code to work from.
Alot of what you see going on right now is piddly because without source code, not much can be done (based on my limited understanding of how this all works).
Not to discount the one or two roms out there now, its a good start but Samsung needs to give up the goods.
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The sources have been out for a while now.
https://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=search&searchValue=SGH-I717
Being the source code for all the i717 models are listed here i didn't know what it would take for an asop version of gb for the note
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Assume what you will, but if I were a developer and I had any inkling that an OS update was on the horizon for the phone I'm using, I'd probably opt to not develop for an OS that will be obsolete, since it's likely that no one would even use the ROM once ICS is out.
In other words, if I were a developer, I'd wait for ICS too.
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The problem with this statement is you say "update on the horizon" when it is in fact a ways away..
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I honestly wish someone would put out a cm7 version for our notes to gives us something better than stock at least until ics comes out, not saying that saurom and tpc aren't nice and trust me I'm pretty happy with saurom rom in my note, but coming from my htc hd2 that had dozens of roms to choose from , and coming from cm9 before I got my note , kinda leaves me hoping for just a bit more rom developing that we have at the moment, if I didnt work 50+ hours a week and had kids to take care of I would take a crack at my own rom but just don't have the time for that level of development.

Rez Development; happy yet?

It's a [Q] but seems general enough. I was tooling around Rez xda and realized we've got a lot of action going on right now.
Remember when we all took the time to complain and complain and complain some more about the lack of development & devs working on Rez? Well, I just went from chingy51o's ineffabilis to chad0989 & mbobino's work on cm9 downloaded and pondered antp121's kang, then back to ineffabilis, flashed Sebastians kernel, applied therev29's redzound skin, who mike d's wallpaper and added zph pilot's coded splash screen.. that's utilizing a small portion of the devs work on the Rezound (which by the way is only $79 with contract now). I've got a nexus 7 and love it but still have way more love for the Rezound.. I'm using 5 different dev posts/releases for my setup right now (so no complaints here, and never really did b4 but many of us did).. how much RezDev's work are you utilizing now that we've got many options?
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Im still running Scotts CleanRom DE. Its stable, great battery life and im running zhp pilots red alert theme. Love the red on red look. Wish i could get on some new kernels but i have no idea what they do lol. Like i said i like the way my phone runs so im not trying to mess it up but it would be nice if it could somehow make my phone even better than it is now!
Once i get some project butter on my rez i'll be set till i updgrade next year!
All you gotta do is follow the aosp developer only thread, and you'll see a ton of devs working on just aosp. I'm sure there are at least that many doing sense stuff. I make minimum wage so I'm donating a little at a time, but I keep using more devs' work so I'm falling behind lol.
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It is true. I had a Thunderbolt before this Rezound and the developement was awesome. Once we got s-off and ICS source code for the Rezound things are happening at an amazing speed. The developers for the Rezound are great in my opinion. It is just a hard phone to deal with. I am sure future phones will be even harder to crack!
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All you gotta do is follow the aosp developer only thread, and you'll see a ton of devs working on just aosp. I'm sure there are at least that many doing sense stuff. I make minimum wage so I'm donating a little at a time, but I keep using more devs' work so I'm falling behind lol.
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I feel the donation whoas.. I could never donate enough and rarely get to.
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Loving seeing these kernels, and starting to drool over who's ROM I'm gonna flash next!
Amen. Loving the activity going on right now. I know this community has had its issues but in general I think we can say that we have a pretty damn awesome bunch of folks working their magic on the Rez.
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Amen. Loving the activity going on right now. I know this community has had its issues but in general I think we can say that we have a pretty damn awesome bunch of folks working their magic on the Rez.
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Haha I feel it. I've been here since release, it has been a good time. With all the fighting and Markus haha. Good times good times . I'll miss the devs and supporters here when we move on to the next great thing
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I've never complained about lack of development.
I can't wait to see this thing run Jelly Bean though, it is running fantastic on my Gtab 10.1, my old Dinc 1, and my wife's old Fascinate I can only imagine how well it will run on the rezound.
The jellypocalypse only lasted for about a month, and wasn't just for our phone.
You know, when everyone was jelly for jelly bean (bad pun I know).
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I won't be happy until I have Android Rasberry Pie and Sense 7.9
I kept telling people not to leave just because development slowed for a few weeks.

Stock Samsung S4 sold by Google

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In case you haven't been keeping up with Google I/O, one of the BIG announcements was the release of a complete stock, unlocked, open Samsung Galaxy S4.
It will come with 4.2.2 I believe. It will get updates direct from Google.
However, it is a GSM device. What do you all think about it? Anyone been on the fence about switching phones? Anyone reserve a Verizon S4?
I think it's cool, and I hope Google drops more phones in this manner.
It's cool, but no real reason to get it above a regular s4 imo.
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It's cool, but no real reason to get it above a regular s4 imo.
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Not even unlocked an bootloader and updates straight from Google when they are released?
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Not even unlocked an bootloader and updates straight from Google when they are released?
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Half the s4's have an unlocked bootliader anyway and most people will be using custom roms, so the ota updates really don't matter.
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Not even unlocked an bootloader and updates straight from Google when they are released?
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It also not working on Verizon is a big reason why I won't be getting one. Also, it's $650.
Will the fact this S4 will have Stock android help out the devs for the Carrier's Models? CM etc..? Once all of the sources and what not are dropped by google?
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It also not working on Verizon is a big reason why I won't be getting one. Also, it's $650.
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$650 is lower compared to the DNAs full price at launch.
It not working on Verizon really does suck, perhaps some devs will port the ROM over to the CDMA version. I want complete and utter stock experience.
This phone pleases the Android purist in me. I so wish I could have it on my current phone, but I must be patient.
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$650 is lower compared to the DNAs full price at launch.
It not working on Verizon really does suck, perhaps some devs will port the ROM over to the CDMA version. I want complete and utter stock experience.
This phone pleases the Android purist in me. I so wish I could have it on my current phone, but I must be patient.
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Point being, I have an upgrade. So I can just get the GS4 for $199.
I imagine that since this exists, it would be pretty close to trivial for an almost complete stock experience on any GS4, as from past experience.
Huge letdown in my opinion.
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I think it's pretty amazing (and definitely surprising) that Samsung agreed to stock Android.
Hopefully this will set a trend with other manufacturers as well.
I would have been more excited if Google chose the GS4 AND the HTC One for its pure Nexus-like version. Even at full price a HTC One w/ pure AOSP would be a very very very compelling option for high end users. Arguably the best software paired with THE best hardware. That could be worth $650
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I would have been more excited if Google chose the GS4 AND the HTC One for its pure Nexus-like version. Even at full price a HTC One w/ pure AOSP would be a very very very compelling option for high end users. Arguably the best software paired with THE best hardware. That could be worth $650
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Agreed... But HTC doesnt have the "stones" to do that. Its led around by the nose from the carriers... snapping their fingers.. "here boy...here boy...cmon".... LOLOLOL....
Ex.... 16 gigs memory... no sd slot.... not helping devs (on the DL) to unlock phones. Now that would be epic. Till then they will always be second or even third consideration for me. I had a TBolt, Rezound, and now DNA. Loved all phones but Nooka please....get some ballz HTC!!!
I'd buy it in a heartbeat if it was compatible with Verizon. I'll have to settle for the normal one with Cyanogenmod.
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Doesn't this also mean that (so long as the bootloader remains unlockable) vzw s4 users can have 100% compatible aosp as son as the source is released? I don't know how different the models for each carrier are.
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