How true is this myth, charging a new phone for 12 hours for optimal performace? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717

It has been allways said that when u get a new phone you must charge it for 12 hours in order to get optimal use of the device, how true is this.
A usual phone charge is for like 2 to 3 hours, i was told that when u first get a brand new phone you need to charge it for 12 hours for optimal performance. if u dont charge the phone for 12 hours later on the phone battery life will not be good moving forward, how tru is this.
For the record iam getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 5.3 ATT LTE, also i have another question.
Why is it that every android phone i ever had dies out so fast, but when it comes to a iPhone that phone can last for a long time, i really dont understand why it is like that, i have had many android phone HTC EVO 4G, G1, T-Mobile G2 and all these android phone die out really fast but the iPhone seems to last a very long time.
Why is that?

Dasin said:
It has been allways said that when u get a new phone you must charge it for 12 hours in order to get optimal use of the device, how true is this.
A usual phone charge is for like 2 to 3 hours, i was told that when u first get a brand new phone you need to charge it for 12 hours for optimal performance. if u dont charge the phone for 12 hours later on the phone battery life will not be good moving forward, how tru is this.
For the record iam getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 5.3 ATT LTE, also i have another question.
Why is it that every android phone i ever had dies out so fast, but when it comes to a iPhone that phone can last for a long time, i really dont understand why it is like that, i have had many android phone HTC EVO 4G, G1, T-Mobile G2 and all these android phone die out really fast but the iPhone seems to last a very long time.
Why is that?
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I always charge my battery on any phone for at least 6 hours because the software telling you its at 100 after 2 is wrong. The first charge is important because you are starting a cycle of charging and draining.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15631703
Read through this thread. It has a lot of good info. I hope i pasted the link correctly
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I'm sure glad we dont use Ni-Cad batteries any more....LOL

I've never had problems with my note dying fast. I charge my battery over night clear all my programs a few times a day and restart my phone once a day. I can go over 8 hours of heavy usage with no recharge. And I've been on iphone since the second generation iphone 4 was the worse battery on heavy usage but great on standby
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I always get a day and a half worth of use.
But seriously everyone do yourself a favor and turn off the battery percentage and just use the icon. Watching that percentage drop makes it feel like the battery goes faster. Ignorance is bliss.
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None answering the question the way it is asked, LOL, u know when u get a phone and the wireless providers allways tell you to charge the phone for a full 12 hours before use.

Dasin said:
None answering the question the way it is asked, LOL, u know when u get a phone and the wireless providers allways tell you to charge the phone for a full 12 hours before use.
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The second post answered it perfectly. The first charge on new software will not necessarily tell you accurately when it's fully charged, so you want to keep charging it after it says its full. 12 hours is probably overkill but it will definitely be fully charged, 6 hours probably will but maybe not.
So the answer is you should charge it as long a possible out of the box and after any factory reset or new rom to ensure the software doesn't cheat you out of some battery life later on.
And for the second part of your original question:
In my opinion, the Iphone is designed to run programs that are written to a very specific standard to use the hardware in a very specific way and to be used by the user in a very specific manner, and this it does very efficiently in both battery and performance. But it needs a user that is fine with being told exactly how to use the phone.
Android phones allow anyone to create programs to use the hardware in ways they weren't initially intended to be used as/for.
I think of it as a Turnpike and a regular highway. The Turnpike is much more efficient, safer and faster but you are very limited to where you can exit, what you can see along the way and it cost you more to get on it. It's good for what it is but I would rather enjoy the trip as long as I have to drive.

Ehh... I've never had it make any difference to me. Then again I use a CPU governor and custom UC/OC kernels ASAP.
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[Q] [polemic question]

Thanks to all developers for all The hard work to this comunity.
i think we all lile to come here and see a New Rom.
But in The end what is The diference from all of The roms here ?
No bugs or less bugs ?
More colours or less colours ?
I just want a stable rom with 24 hours of battery...but battery that let me use the SG2,,,use push mail , use GPS with acuracy , surf in The web ....
The iOS 4 let me do this...
I tried almost of The roms here...cant get more than 12 hours...diferent kernels...
I dont want set CPU , juice defender etc,,,i want a device that i dont want to think if i surf On The web ...i dont have battery for tonight.
I think The developers do a lota of effort..i think The sg2 is not good enough...
I bought 3 batterys ... All The same , waiting for The 2000mhn from Samsung ...last hope ...or i Will be back to iPhone .
Any advice On a good cobination / rom and kernel ?
Btw : The quality of The housing of The sg2 is poor..
Thanks for you advices , and thnks to all developers .
Cognition and ninphetamine
My SGS2 has better battery life than my iPhone. The only bad thing about the casing is the battery cover...that's the trade-off of having a removable battery. Sounds like you're using your battery wrong.
666fff said:
My SGS2 has better battery life than my iPhone. The only bad thing about the casing is the battery cover...that's the trade-off of having a removable battery. Sounds like you're using your battery wrong.
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What you mean wrong ?
What rom and kernel are you using ?
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Galinha, there must be something wrong with your setup. On an iPhone 4 I was getting 7-8 hours of battery life. SGS2 lasts me a day at least. I'm using stock ROM and kernel.
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Lol it was just a joke (remember iPhone-you're holding it wrong?).
I'm using cognition and ninphetamine. I took my phone off charge about 15 hours ago and my battery is at 73%. Made a few phone calls, sent a few messages, played wordfeud, used opera and some random stuff playing around in the phone. I suspect there might be something wrong with your phone or there's an app that isn't running correctly. Why don't you back up your photos etc and try a reset?
Definitely something is not right because for me the GS2 has the best battery life out of all the smartphones I've used!
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Lol it was just a joke (remember iPhone-you're holding it wrong?).
I'm using cognition and ninphetamine. I took my phone off charge about 15 hours ago and my battery is at 73%. Made a few phone calls, sent a few messages, played wordfeud, used opera and some random stuff playing around in the phone. I suspect there might be something wrong with your phone or there's an app that isn't running correctly. Why don't you back up your photos etc and try a reset?
Definitely something is not right because for me the GS2 has the best battery life out of all the smartphones I've used!
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Same, the atrix and the sgs2 spank the iPhone for battery life. Can't wait to see the iFail 5 so I can laugh at them invent dual core smart phones.
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Ok. Something is really wrong with mine....really wrong
galinha said:
Ok. Something is really wrong with mine....really wrong
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Whats the matter
Maybe dont matter to you but i spent 600 euros in a device that after 12 hours is dead....without bat , no matter rom or kernel i use...
Realy in terms of battery all cooked roms are equal...The rom and kernel that Will make The difference Will be The one that is really battery friendly ...
Mate my phone is the best for me. i was like you wondering what im doing wrong and i got **** battery. but i read about it and chopped and changed kernels till i found the best one for me. now i can use my phone for a day or two without charging it
I am coming from an SGS and have just snapped up an SGS2, both of which I am very happy with. I am a heavy smartphone user, I can't do without them because they have made my life easier and more enjoyable in a number of ways.
There often are occasions when I would never make a full day on a single charge, on *any* smartphone. Now, one of the iPhones' several showstoppers for which I could NEVER buy one and for which I think it's an absolute POS and it's really for people who do not need smartphones, is their non-removable battery! The SGS2 has a removable one so I can't understand all the talk about having to worry and limiting oneself in using one's smartphone!!
An original Samsung battery for the SGS and SGS2 costs around € 18 here in Italy and an original desktop charger is about € 20. I had 3 1500mah batteries for the SGS and have 4 1650 ones for the SGS2. However long I am out and about I NEVER run out of juice and however many batteries I use in any given day I just charge them once I am at home! What's easier and simpler than that????
Even when I have just used a single battery and still have some charge left by the end of the day I NEVER plug in my phone at night, I put it in airplane mode and keep it handy on the nightstand to use as an alarmclock and to quickly check whatever I may need after I go to bed (an appointment, a note, something on the net etc etc). Once the battery runs out (during the next morning or whenever) I switch batteries and charge the depleted one when I am back home. So even if you can make a whole day on a single charge having at least 2 batteries and a desktop charger which can charge your battery alone, you would never have to keep your phone on the leash of the powercord and limiting your freedom in using it!
Lighten up guys..
if you want a guide on the rom that you are using and how to get the best out of it follow the link below and hopefully that will help you out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1234264
Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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[Q] How's the battery life?

Long story short, I bought the HTC EVO 4G LTE (The US carrier, Sprint's variant on the HTC One X). Sprint has a 14 day return policy. For me, it ends on Saturday. I'm considering the GSIII.
But the most important thing is, how's the battery life? How well does it do when you're using 3G?
But most importantly, how badly does heavy texting (as in, new text messages every minute for about 4 hours) effect the battery?
I text all day long from 8am to 8pm (medical school ) and WhatsApp/xda app. Lasts the whole day. But I run in edgge not 3g
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Mine lasts all day too. Very impressed with the sgs3
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WiFi_N said:
Long story short, I bought the HTC EVO 4G LTE (The US carrier, Sprint's variant on the HTC One X). Sprint has a 14 day return policy. For me, it ends on Saturday. I'm considering the GSIII.
But the most important thing is, how's the battery life? How well does it do when you're using 3G?
But most importantly, how badly does heavy texting (as in, new text messages every minute for about 4 hours) effect the battery?
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I'm in the same boat as you. I love the screen on the Evo but the battery life and multitasking issues have got me strongly considering the GS3.
I've been haunting the forums here and it seems like people are getting amazing battery life. There are many people posting screenshots of 5-6 hours screen on time. I've even seen some that exceed that. By contrast my Evo has been running 3.5-4 hours. That's less than what I was getting on my OG Evo (of course it was rooted and running a custom ROM/kernel ).
I just went and spoke with my Sprint representative about what I'd need to do to make the exchange. I'm 95% sure I'm going to pull the trigger on this switcharoo.
Best of luck in your decision!
Was quite bad at first, but something changed.. now it's awesome. 15 hours and 70% left. Moderate usage and 3G/HSPA+
Do you know what changed to your phone?? 15 hours with 70% left is amazing How often were you using the phone ?
The battery life is fantastic. Just turn off the crappy S-Voice features that wait for your voice input.
How long is the screen-on time? I seriously doubt texting requires heavy usage of the radio. So, the screen is obviously going to be the biggest drain on the battery.
Battery life is misleading straight out of the box. The starting charge is completely out of sync with the phone.
I had to run my battery dry and full charge it to calibrate the battery properly. Once I did, then battery% values balanced out and phone has been a dream ever since.
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Do you know what changed to your phone?? 15 hours with 70% left is amazing How often were you using the phone ?
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it was with moderate usage (lots of texts, a few calls, a bit of game play, but not much) and I turned on power saving when I wasn't using the phone(don't know whether this actually does anything when the phone is asleep anyway... and off when I was). Don't have s-voice running (disabled it manage applications menu), turned off motion as I never used it, turned off NFC, S-Beam and Wifi-Direct (some of which were turned on by default! and this is SUCH a battery killer)...
Basically turned off everything that I don't use.. and saved a hell of a lot of juice.
Karnalsyn said:
Battery life is misleading straight out of the box. The starting charge is completely out of sync with the phone.
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Ill have to try that with my phone to see if I notice a difference.
bortak said:
Basically turned off everything that I don't use.. and saved a hell of a lot of juice.
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I think the longest I got was almost 30 hours, thats using whatsapp, heywire, facebook and skype here and there and tinkering around in the marketplace. I had most of the settings switched off as you did...just noticed I had nfc on...switched that off too now. I just joined the android community, switched over from my Iphone this week when I got the SG3 so im still getting used to it
I think because of the quad procesor the 2.100mah wasent enough.It is very good!All day from the morning with 100% with full brightness,wifi,download gameloft games,gps, and i had 20% the next morning!!With custom roms will improved more!!
alexanter the great said:
I think because of the quad procesor the 2.100mah wasent enough.It is very good!All day from the morning with 100% with full brightness,wifi,download gameloft games,gps, and i had 20% the next morning!!With custom roms will improved more!!
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Amazing!
WiFi_N said:
Long story short, I bought the HTC EVO 4G LTE (The US carrier, Sprint's variant on the HTC One X). Sprint has a 14 day return policy. For me, it ends on Saturday. I'm considering the GSIII.
But the most important thing is, how's the battery life? How well does it do when you're using 3G?
But most importantly, how badly does heavy texting (as in, new text messages every minute for about 4 hours) effect the battery?
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check thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27351690#post27351690
24 hours gets me to about 20%. That's with WiFi on all the time. Pretty good yea?
Almost 24 hours with heavy usage, on my previous S II it took two charges or extra battery for same (smsing, surfing, calling, half of time on wifi etc...) always on 3g
There's a whole thread on battery life here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681873
Probably didn't need to start a new one..
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I will agree with the above statements. I use the 2x battery app and I have moderate daily use which gets me at the end of the day around 10:30 from 8am to around 45-48%. That is with 3g when the screen is unlocked a bit of wifi, web browsing and tapatalk, a phone call or 2 etc. I have disabled all apps i don't use as well and run the stock kernel and no roots
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I managed to get the 99% battery issue sorted!
I have used he external battery charger on my 2nd battery and today I thought of trying the new battery for the first time to get some cycles on. Guess what?
The samsung desktop charger powers the battery all the way. I have now 100% on the new one and it dropped as I'm typing now after a good 5minutes of operation, unlike it used to do which was immediatelly after unplugging the charger from the phone.
So I presume that goes with the original assumption that the phone does not overcharge the battery for lifespan purposes. Why would the desktop charger would though?
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I managed to get the 99% battery issue sorted!
I have used he external battery charger on my 2nd battery and today I thought of trying the new battery for the first time to get some cycles on. Guess what?
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I'm now giving this method a try.
Charging up my spare battery with the Samsung desk stand/charger.
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Interesting.
I've found the same as above with the 99% issue.
Having charged my spare battery up in the phone, I've then put it in the external charger, which after another 10-15 minutes charge, the LED turned from red to green.
Having now put that battery back into the phone, the battery is still on 100% after being unplugged for more than 30 mins.
Usually, the battery would have dropped to either 99% or 98% as soon as it was unplugged.
So, it would seem that the desktop charger does charge the battery up to the full capacity, while the phone itself, seems to stop at 97-98%. Weird.

[Q] Battery Life

So what's the final verdict on the s3 battery life?
I have read articles that claim that it is great.
I have read articles that talk of a bug that causes battery drain.
I have read articles about official and unofficial fixes.
And I have read articles of these fixes not working.
I'm considering getting one -and I'm not interested in voiding my warranty or risk bricking it, because I already had an issue with a note and when I took it to the shop they told me that they couldn't service it because I had updated the software myself. They stole the inner components. (When I took it to the shop, the phone would still turn on but not boot, but when they gave it back to me ten days later -it wouldn't even blink. I took it to another shop, and they told me that it had been tampered with and parts had been replaced).
So, is the battery life a crapshoot ?
Nothing wrong with the battery life. Even with heavy use you will get a day. Having come from an sgs and sgs2 I have to say this is amazing!
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For me i thought it was dreadfully low when i first got it. but then again i was on it 24/7 when i first got it n still got a full day of use.
I get about 2-3 days now with daily use. mainly because ive tweaked the display brightness (which accounts for ~50% of battery use) and switched to a dark theme.
I can get up to 7 hours of on screen time. Compare that to my 4 hour screen time on my One X.
So the issues of battery drain have been masterfully dealt with, or are you guys the few lucky exceptions?
Because I've read a lot of articles complaining about battery life (and some kind of bug on the international version of the S3).
But if it's as solid as you guys are saying, I may go pick one up, today.
I can't go more then a full day with medium usage.
I do however like my screen BRIGHT as the sun, good for outdoor use. Gone are the days of 3310 where after a week i remember the thing needs charging lol.
Don't forget, you can always carry a spare battery if your away for a while, juice defender helps too
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I get around 14 hours per day which is good, but what I get around 3-3.5 hours screen time, compared to my desire HD that's heaven. Brightness about 25/30%
And seriously people I don't know how you get that timings like 7 hours and such. Are you guys on stock/unrooted? If yes, then please someone tell me how.
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Asseel said:
I get around 14 hours per day which is good, but what I get around 3-3.5 hours screen time, compared to my desire HD that's heaven. Brightness about 25/30%
And seriously people I don't know how you get that timings like 7 hours and such. Are you guys on stock/unrooted? If yes, then please someone tell me how.
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I am on 50% brightness.
Rooted stock ICS ROM. Tegrak overclocked to 1.6Ghz.
Tons of bloatware removed.
Touchwiz frozen with Titanium Backup.
I get anywhere from 5-7 hours of on screen time depending on what I am doing.
After having owned the device for a few days, I concur with the general consensus. The battery will give you about a waking day's worth at moderate use. You definitely need to charge it every night, if you're going to use it anywhere near the way it was designed/meant to be used. But for intensive use, this will not give you a full working day, so you need to be able to charge it in the work place.
The battery life of SIII is much better than it's compititors like One X.
muhammad.ali123 said:
The battery life of SIII is much better than it's compititors like One X.
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I have both. On screen time is about 6-7 hours on GS3 and I can get 5 on a good day with the One X.
Still, there are things I like about both of them.
I can hit 5 hours screen time with 2x% left with some moderate browsing and wifi constantly on

45 minutes battery life

My Galaxy S II (and pretty much any Android evice I've picked up) has a usable battery life of 45 minutes. I unplug the phone at 9 A.M. in the morning after charging it to 100%. By 12 in the afternoon I would have browsed the Internet, checked social apps and played a few rounds of a game for what feels like 45 minutes in total. By then the battery is at 30% and I have to put it away in fear of it dying before I get home. The phone is useless for the rest of the day. My iPhone 4 with its 3 year old battery lasts 2 days like this.
No wakelocks, 99% deep sleep. I have a 3200mAh battery which feels like it lasts 1.5 hours before I have to put it away in fear. Basically the phone is not usable at all due to the user being in constant fear of the battery dying.
If I don't use the phone at all it's down to 20% by the end of the day with no wakelocks and 99% deep sleep. If I don't use my iPhone 4 with its 3 year old battery, it still lasts 20 days.
KurianOfBorg said:
My Galaxy S II (and pretty much any Android evice I've picked up) has a usable battery life of 45 minutes. I unplug the phone at 9 A.M. in the morning after charging it to 100%. By 12 in the afternoon I would have browsed the Internet, checked social apps and played a few rounds of a game for what feels like 45 minutes in total. By then the battery is at 30% and I have to put it away in fear of it dying before I get home. The phone is useless for the rest of the day. My iPhone 4 with its 3 year old battery lasts 2 days like this.
No wakelocks, 99% deep sleep. I have a 3200mAh battery which feels like it lasts 1.5 hours before I have to put it away in fear.
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Well, or you buy a new battery for the S2 or you keep going with your "stylish" i phone. The world is not complicated and phones are not rocket science.
And by the way, games drain battery hard, very hard.
Charge at work, upgrade the battery or stick with your iPhone.
I tip my hat to you and wish you a good day.
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Mine lasts up to 2-3 days with little usage.
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Edvin73 said:
Well, or you buy a new battery for the S2 or you keep going with your "stylish" i phone. The world is not complicated and phones are not rocket science.
And by the way, games drain battery hard, very hard.
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Like I stated, I have a newish 3200mAh battery which is safe to use for 1.5 hours before you have to put the phone away so it lasts the rest of the day.
KurianOfBorg said:
Like I stated, I have a newish 3200mAh battery which is safe to use for 1.5 hours before you have to put the phone away so it lasts the rest of the day.
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I hope you checked with BBS, if so and as you said "99% of deep sleep", it means that the games are draining your battery.Well, sometimes even a "newish" battery can be faulty.Try with different battery,I mean a good one for sure.And if your results are the same, stop playing those freakin' games.
mckeowngoo said:
Charge at work, upgrade the battery or stick with your iPhone.
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I do. The battery actually drains while charging if I'm using the phone.
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I hope you checked with BBS, if so and as you said "99% of deep sleep", it means that the games are draining your battery.Well, sometimes even a "newish" battery can be faulty.Try with different battery,I mean a good one for sure.And if your results are the same, stop playing those freakin' games.
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Yes I use BBS and have completely disabled all bloatware using Autostarts. I have the original battery and the Mugen Power 3200mAh battery. The battery life is proportional to with the capacity of the batteries I've used.
The primary use of my phone is mobile gaming. I don't care about the phone part except for receiving push notifications for email, IMs etc. which I then reply to on the PC anyway.
My SG2 and pretty much every Android device I pick up has 45 minutes of battery... Either you have won the lottery and got a defect phone several times or there is something fishy going on..
My sg3 lasted for 24 hours, my s4 last for a couple of days, my motorola razr lasted a week and my iphone 4 went for a day and sometimes 24 hours..
Even if I stress test my sg4 and s3 all the time it would last for a lot loooonger than 45 minutes..
I know the games will use a lot of juice but 45 minutes? Something is wrong...
What kind of games are we talking about? I do not play so much myself, just online poker, some tetris and so on, my iphone and android phones is pretty similar when talking about these games...
You could go for a Nintendo Game Boy etc
That said I taught ICS used less battery than JB. And it's pretty weird if you have the mugen battery. My Razer had a 3300 battery and that would go for days, even with heavy usage.
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mr.lysgaard said:
My SG2 and pretty much every Android device I pick up has 45 minutes of battery... Either you have won the lottery and got a defect phone several times or there is something fishy going on..
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I've extensively used the Galaxy S, Galaxy S II, Galaxy Note, Nexus One, Nexus S. All of them can be used heavily (3G, gaming) for just 45-60 minutes before the battery is low and you have to save it for the rest of the day.
Simply listening to music for 2 hours in the gym drains 35% battery! WTF? This is without any equaliser and while using an external headphone amplifier. I could listen to music for 2-3 hours a day for 1 week on my old iPod touch before needing to charge it.
mr.lysgaard said:
What kind of games are we talking about?
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I'm currently grinding in Punch Quest.
mr.lysgaard said:
You could go for a Nintendo Game Boy etc
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Those currently suck. No more AAA games like the PSP had.
mr.lysgaard said:
That said I taught ICS used less battery than JB. And it's pretty weird if you have the mugen battery. My Razer had a 3300 battery and that would go for days, even with heavy usage.
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With zero usage and I mean barely switching on the screen once or twice to check the time, my 3200mAh Mugen battery is at 55% by evening. No wakelock, full deep sleep. The original battery will be below 20% or dead with zero usage.
KurianOfBorg said:
With zero usage and I mean barely switching on the screen once or twice to check the time, my 3200mAh Mugen battery is at 55% by evening. No wakelock, full deep sleep. The original battery will be below 20% or dead with zero usage.
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Maybe you usually install a battery discharger app?
Never had such behaviour.
bernie279 said:
Maybe you usually install a battery discharger app?
Never had such behaviour.
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If I enable Aeroplane mode it's still at 99% after a day.
KurianOfBorg said:
I do. The battery actually drains while charging if I'm using the phone.
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Possibly a crap battery, but im going to suggest you don't use the samsung charger. The phone holds a wakelock whilst charging, keeping the phone running at 200Mhz, so unless you are delivering 650mA, your phone will die. Therefore I suggest you are using an unofficial charger, which doesn't deliver the needed 650mA, or you have an unofficial battery which wont accept 650mA. Either way, if you're not using Samsung appliances you shouldn't really be complaining about crap battery.
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Possibly a crap battery, but im going to suggest you don't use the samsung charger. The phone holds a wakelock whilst charging, keeping the phone running at 200Mhz, so unless you are delivering 650mA, your phone will die. Therefore I suggest you are using an unofficial charger, which doesn't deliver the needed 650mA, or you have an unofficial battery which wont accept 650mA. Either way, if you're not using Samsung appliances you shouldn't really be complaining about crap battery.
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I am using the original Samsung charger and the original Samsung battery. I have an additional 3200mAh Mugen Power battery.
It drains faster than the charge rate only if I'm playing games.
Could be many things then, but as you say BBS doesnt report wakelocks, it would all just be conjecture. Try and pull a logcat after an hour or so of deepsleep and see if you notice anything untoward. Also, have you done simple things like turn WiFi off when you're not using it? That scans every 15 seconds or something. Or if you're in a crap phone signal area, your phone will keep scanning for and trying to connect to a better signal.
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TheReverend210 said:
Or if you're in a crap phone signal area, your phone will keep scanning for and trying to connect to a better signal.
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It's the phone obviously. Like I said if I put it in Aeroplane mode than the battery is still at 99% at the end of the day. If it's in normal mode it drains severely. I don't have this problem on any other phone. I've flashed the latest modem for my region and tried older modems for my region as well.
Not sure but it sounds like you have technical issues with your phone.
I have the official Samsung uprated battery and I loose about 60% out of the phone battery a day with heavy usage. Usually doesn't get to that point as I charge at work or home when not in use.
I take it as a given that all smart phones, tablets or laptops have ****e battery life.
Blanket generalisations about specific OS' or brands being superior to others is just silliness.
Saying that, when it comes to battery life, my HP Touchpad running CM 10.1 pisses all over any iOS device and the ghost of Steve Jobs agrees with me!
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mckeowngoo said:
I have the official Samsung uprated battery and I loose about 60% out of the phone battery a day with heavy usage.
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I take it as a given that all smart phones, tablets or laptops have ****e battery life.
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60% at the end of the day is a joke. It's unacceptable. Without use My iPhone 4 is at 95% at the end of the day with everything switched on and every possible syncing enabled. Why is it so hard for Samsung to produce a properly working phone after 5 years? I am 100% sure their latest phones like the Galaxy S 4 behave exactly the same way no matter what PR bull**** they try to spin.
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60% at the end of the day is a joke. It's unacceptable. Without use My iPhone 4 is at 95% at the end of the day with everything switched on and every possible syncing enabled. Why is it so hard for Samsung to produce a properly working phone after 5 years? I am 100% sure their latest phones like the Galaxy S 4 behave exactly the same way no matter what PR bull**** they try to spin.
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Seems the iPhone is the device meant for you, for me in normal usage it lasts 2 and a half days altogether with the stock battery, heavy usage like a gameplay of Gamelofts Modern Combat series or N.O.V.A gives me 3 hours of continuous play after which the battery reaches around 7-10%, wifi in JB sadly kills my battery only gets around 6 hour's with continuous usage which was greater in my GB and ICS days.
But 95% at the end of the day for the iPhone 4 with everything ON is a bit of an exaggeration(the hell kind of unremovable battery is that?) don't you think?
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But 95% at the end of the day for the iPhone 4 with everything ON is a bit of an exaggeration(the hell kind of unremovable battery is that?) don't you think?
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Everything on with no use. Thats the drain in standby. My SGS2 drains whether I use it or not with everything on. In aeroplane mode, it stays at 99% without use.

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Hello Group,
At what battery drainage amount to you connect your LGV30 to a charger?? I got mine last weekend and to me the charge is decent but not great for being new at least to what I have been used to.
I use the charge cable that came in the LGV30 box and I also use my daughters wireless charger that she got for her Samsung Galaxy 8 since she doesn't use it and they both work great.
I generally charge it when it gets around 50-60% I dont know why but I cant stand my phone to ever get low even though certainly it will at times
Thanks, Jake
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I got mine last weekend and to me the charge is decent but not great for being new at least to what I have been used to.
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Are you talking about the speed of charge? For me the battery is so good I don't even look at it. At the end of the day, I put it on my slow wireless charger, and take it off in the morning when I go to work. Can't remember the last time I used the wired charger that came with the phone, but I thought it was super fast.
I normally plug in around 3%. Even though I know that's a bit low.
Here's todays battery usage.
I've been leaving high accuracy GPS on which is why my battery drains so quickly...
But I used my phone to stream music all night at work with GPM.
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Hey Group,
Good news, well I took my phone back to AT&T (they suck) and trying to explain that there is something wrong with the battery on a 1 week old new phone with one of the mindless helpers there is like trying to pick the correct 6 numbers on a lottery ticket.
I could tell pretty much as soon I I had brought it home (the bad one) but I decide to wait a week and give it time to see it get better even did the Oreo update. So anyway the young lady tells me that its me and I must have to many apps working in the background, I tell her, thanks but I dont have anymore then I always run and I basically use it for social media and some web surfing and I rarely do any games on it as I am a hard core computer gamer.
She again tells me that OH! you must have to many apps running in the background, I'm like (sigh) so I explained what I had just typed and so we go back and forth and she did not stop telling me about the apps in the background. I was going to get the Galaxy s9+ because I didnt want to deal with these jokers anymore but I decided to stick with my LGV30.
So now she tells me that the manager says I can just swap it out for another one if it passes their battery diagnostic test first, I said WHAT? so again I tell her from last night until this morning (about 5 hrs) when not being used it dropped almost 30% charge.
and of course it failed their "State of the Art" diagnostic test so I had to fork over another $45.oo to complete the deal but these phone is doing great.....theres more but this is the short version! btw, ATT&T is the DEVIL
Regards, Jake
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ATT&T is the DEVIL
Regards, Jake
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Actually it's Verizon, but postpaid AT&T is close second.
I try to never fully charge or discharge. High of 80-90% ... low of 20% or so ....
Best battery life I've had so far on a phone.

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