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First of all, hello to everyone. I have been reading through a lot of threads here in the last few weeks after getting my HD2, especially the ones about battery life.
I have never owned a smartphone, so I have no comparison but I'm barely getting through 1 day of use when fully charged! And I'm not even using it that much yet, Wifi is off, no data transfers, just some texting and calls. I have installed Bandswitch and Battlog, didn't really help though.
Got the phone brand new (T-Mobile US) and haven't done any major tweaking yet, it's still pretty much stock with a few programs that I installed so far.
Do you guys have a similar experience or is it completely different? I love the phone, but if I dont even get through one day of use (and I want to use the phone in the future, not just for surfing but for music streaming or web browsing), I would have to bring it back.
Any help appreciated!
It's just something you have to live with, buy a spare battery, or the extended battery, flash a lighter ROM, adjust screen brightness turn off push e-mails etc etc.
I can get 2 days battery from very light use. i.e. a few texts and calls a day, no Wi-Fi, bluetooth or internet browsing. That's just how smartphones are.
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
brutzel1 said:
So how do you do it on a daily basis?
My battery is fully charged in the morning and lets assume I'm using the phone for what I bought it for - some music streaming, gps here and there if I need it, some web browsing, calls and texts etc.
I haven't even started using most of the features of the phone and my battery has died twice on my already while I was out at night.
How can that be normal or acceptable? I can't charge my battery every 6h...
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Maybe you shouldn't have a smart phone? Battery technology is ****, it's a shame, but it's true. The only thing I can suggest is a spare battery, I carry one everywhere.
I generally watch an hour and a half of video a day on my phone, text, call, use the internet and I can still make a 9 hour day with 40%+ battery left, and just incase I am out and about in the evening before I have a chance to get the phone on charge I have the spare.
But with that said half hours charge from the mains will give you a good 30% topup I very seldom have to swap the batterys and I use a pretty juicy ROM.
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It's just something you have to live with
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or maybe not
Given his kind of use, 2 days should be normal. Right now I'm squeezing 3 days out of this battery, and that's only because I swap it out when it's at 10%, otherwise it could be a little longer... and a few calls here and there is not the only thing I did with it... it's still my work pda after all
Since it's pretty much stock, unless it gets better with time (the first recharging cycles are the worst) and even after a hard reset it won't get better, it probably is something wrong not software related.
Install battclock and check the standby battery drain, shouldn't be much higher than 4mA, up to 7mA could be normal, any higher than that, especially if significant, and you've got something wrong, and found the cause to the short battery life.
First off, buy a couple of cheap oem batteries from here...
Now, these eBay batteries have performed slightly better than the original battery...
Some of us smartphone users are so used to poor battery life we have power charging cradles at home work and car just to keep the charge up... And have spare batteries every in case of emergency...
I take my phone off the charger at 6am to go to work... My avg day is 6-10 calls, 20 reminders, an hour of UNO, an hour as a wifi router and I return home at 5pm with 50-60% battery life...
they are trying to make batteries smaller and thinner so they can make the phones thinner and smaller so battery life is compromised. But you do need to give it some time to settle in.
Back up batteries and cradles to charge them are cheap and an easy solution. So are extra chargers to keep at work, in the car, etc. Most people can charge their phone at least an hour during the day and that should give you all you need.
The only smartphone that I didn't carry an extra battery for was the moto q9c, because it came with an extended life battery. But on these phones, that probably isn't the best option.
So what did you guys do to improve the battery life of your HD2? Are there any specific programs (I heared about G-Profile) you are not supposed to use or did you guys just deinstall all the T-Mobile Apps?
If I can just get 1 day of actual use out of it I am OK with that. I just dont want to have die every second or third day if I use more often than normal...
Any suggestions or may tests I could do? I feel like I could stream music on Slacker for about 90 Minutes and the battery would be dead...
EDIT: Just did Battlog for about 15 Minutes, my phone uses between 15ma and 31ma when in standby. So where do I start, how do I find the culprit?
I love huge screen HTC devices and Im a power user, so my solutions for power issues are:
Callpod Fueltank Duo
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Mugen Extended-size High-capacity 2600mAh Battery for HTC HD2
http://www.mugenpowerbatteries.com/
There is a 15% discount right now, better hurry.
Extra chargers and thats it! Now I browse, calls, emails, music, videos, TV stream (Slingplayer) and maximize all of the other features of my HD2 t9193.
Software and the end-user are the cause behind battery drain. I've got 2.5days out of moderate use so I don't think it's the hardware at all.
Methods for testing battery consumption and proof it is typically software related
Hi,
At the risk of looking like I'm trying to hijack this thread, I started a discussion on this particular subject a while ago as feedback on my finding after reading almost all the threads I could find regarding battery use on the HD2. Lude219 is 100% correct, the issue is always software related (yea, I know there might be exceptions to the rule) and my phone was a prime example of that.
See the thread below that explains how to measure your battery consumption, has logs and screen shots from users you have high consumption and also people who have systems where battery life is more than 48 hours so that you can compare your results.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718173
Regards
I'm also sure it's software related. My phone would use app. 2% overnight with all connections closed. This i tested over months. Then suddenly without me changing anything drastic software wise, it pulled 5% per 3-4 hours. So after going thru all the cleaning routines nothing helped exept a good "ram cleaning" . Somehow or other the phone starts processes over time wich consume alot of power. One would have to look into it with a process manager to find out what exactly it is. WinMo seems to be quite sofisticated looking at all the running processes. So my view is , keeping the system tidy might be the only way to save the extra power.This is where the huge diffrence to other platforms seems to be, it can take quite a while until you have configured your phone the way you need it. I am useing the stock rom 1.66 German
thanks you guys for participating and sharing your thoughts.
But now, here is a thinker:
Last night, I let my battery drain all the way to zero and then recharged it at night. The only other thing I did was installing BSBTweaks and Touch X Taskmanager. I also changed my Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before).
And I couldnt believe what I was seeing, I took my phone off the charger this morning around 8.30am and now at 7pm I am still at 84%!!! I did not use the phone heavily but sent and received a few texts, made 1 call and played around with it for a little bit. Similiarly to what I did in the beginning after I got the phone, but then the battery had almost died at 7pm!
I am super happy and hope it stays like that but cannot explain why all the sudden it is that different...
Hi everyone,
This is a very usefull thread, for me it is, thanks to everybody that answered.
regrding the last post, a noobish quesition is
”Bandswitch Settings to turn off data when not used and put it at 60 sec (instead of 500 sec before): how do i do this?”
I remember stumbling upon this setting the day i got the phone and started viciously going through it.
Somehow it didnt store in my memory the path i went that day so i can try doing what the man sugested.
So if anyone can lay a hand, much obliged.
Regards
i lost 12 pct over night in 9 hours with my radio turned off last night and only gmail and texts were open...
with battlog how do i do the test so it stays in standby? it keeps turning the screen on and off when i run benchmark
You may want to flash a new radio. Try a new one each day and measure battery life. I use radio 2.12.50 and have had a good experience.
yeah but with my radio turned off the radio shouldnt affect it shoudl it?
i use blackberry to stream pandora radio thru aux for about 8 hours a day and it still has 2 bars left after that.
HD2 just sits there and kills the battery lol
what kind of phone is that when you have to disable all its functions every time you dont use it?
seriously this is called unfinished product or poor design, that is beeing sold to customers as a next best thing.
you guys can argue with me all you want. i heard many excuses from users advocating the companies. such as. if you dont like this than pay more for a better product. well HD2 is a better product, its a 500 dollar phone damn it.
but you dont realize that even the "better" products suffer from same underdevelopment syndrome.
companies spend millions on consumer research and consumers spend millions on **** they dont need every year. cows eat grass, consumers eat garbage made by big companies.
where are the better products? they dont exist because it became "normal" to have a faulty OS or for your phone buttons to fall off, or battery to explode.
companies worked long and hard to make consumers get used to the idea that garbage is just a part of life, and worked long and hard to minimize costs of production, and cut corners.
which corners?
the final QA testing that is not beeing done by a company, so they can release the phone 3 months earlier, the consumers pay for the phone and test it.
we work for the company and we pay for it instead of getting paid.
the phone breaks oh how sad ,
company takes note(dont use this cheap glue or the buttons fall off, get a lil more expensive glue next year)
so they use better glue and cut another corner and we buy another "new and improved phone" and this time screen goes dim oh dang not again...and it continues.
do you disconnect your car battery every night so it doesnt die? or when you buy a lexus do you drive with your AC off because it cant pull the car around when ac is on same time as the stereo?
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Are the batteries in the Vibrant, Fascinate and Captivate identical. I need to get a spare battery today (if possible) and although the specs indicate it is the same exxact battery, I figure I'd better check with more knowledgable people.
Still trying to work out how to get a full day (8 hours) out of a charge (my only major complaint about the Vibrant - it is a great phone).
Thanks!
njblackberry said:
Searched to see if this was already asked but didn't it.
Are the batteries in the Vibrant, Fascinate and Captivate identical. I need to get a spare battery today (if possible) and although the specs indicate it is the same exxact battery, I figure I'd better check with more knowledgable people.
Still trying to work out how to get a full day (8 hours) out of a charge (my only major complaint about the Vibrant - it is a great phone).
Thanks!
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I know they are between the fascinate and the vibrant. My wife has a fascinate and we switch batteries all the time when mine is low.
Unfortunately I can't seem to find one at any retail stores. Tried a compnay owned AT&T and T-Mobile store (they had next to nothing as far as accessories) and Best Buy and Radio Shack.. Nada.. Guess I have to wait for the one I ordered from Amazon.. Really need one for Monday. Oh well.
Maybe I can conserve battery life by not using it :-(
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Still trying to work out how to get a full day (8 hours) out of a charge (my only major complaint about the Vibrant - it is a great phone).
Thanks!
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This may be a bit extreme, but I've had much better battery life after switching to this custom ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782027
There are other tips as well, such as having your email check every 30 minutes instead of using "push" email, etc.
This is my first Android phone and I'm not comfortable (yet) with updating the ROM.
Without push e-mail, I may as well go back to my BlackBerry. I am already giving up Office Communicator and I can't give up push e-mail.
Unfortunately this reminds me of the early days of the iPhoney; battery life was dreadful there. Difference is, I like the Vibrant. And it has a replaceable battery.
Downloaded and installed JuiceDefender and purchased UltimateJuice. See how they work. Seems like a lot of work (between that and shutting off WiFi and BT and then remembering to turn them on). So it goes.
So far, battery life has been a disappointment.
IDtheTarget said:
This may be a bit extreme, but I've had much better battery life after switching to this custom ROM...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=782027
There are other tips as well, such as having your email check every 30 minutes instead of using "push" email, etc.
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I've always read that push was significantly BETTER for your battery than checking email at a fixed interval.
This is now depressing... Battery was 100% charged; 90 minutes later it is 70% charged. No phone calls. Very few e-mails (and I get a ton during the week). Two text messages. 10 minutes of web browsing...
So now I am uninstalling apps that I wanted like FaceBook and Twitter to see if I can find the major drain. And I won't be able to so I'll have to go back to my old phone. Very depressing. I checked with someone else in my group. Same thing.
How do people who need push e-mail and IM deal with this? I am 100% positive it will get better in the future, but I can't wait
Check ebay. I got two batteries and a battery charger for around fifteen bucks. Works great....also try calibrating your battery meter by letting the phone completely drain then completely charge it. Doing that a few times every now and then defin helps my battery meter
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I ordered a spare battery but it won't be here by Monday. I won't be anywhere near a power outlet Monday and can't have this thing die at 11AM...
Extended battery
I bought an extended battery from mugenbattery.com. It's for the Galaxy S i9000, but since both that phone and the Vibrant are practically identical inside and out, it fit perfectly. After unplugging my phone for about 8 hours, after light use (bluetooth on for about 30 mins and a few email checks), my battery was down to about 92%. With the stock battery it was down to the upper 70's. Also all the gel cases and leather cases for the i9000 will fit the vibrant (i have one of each). Mind you, the phone with the extended battery will feel heavier and will be about twice as thick, but I don't care. I got juice now for pandora and angry birds all day baby
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
Recruiter1 said:
I've had my Flyer a few months now and in the last few days the battery seems to be draining very quickly. I charged it full again last night and this morning it was at 88%.
I've turned everything off so just the bare bones of the device are alive and i'm using Juice Defender, and still no joy. It's only started doing this in the last few days so i presume the battery is on the way out very quickly.
I've let it drain to 10% and charged it, and it's made no difference.
I'm not going to mess about with settings and more waiting to see what it does etc...., I really just want to get a new battery and be done with.
Where can i buy a new battery? I've had a look on fleabay and no joy.
Any suggestions where to get one, part no. etc...?
Many thanks in advance
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happened with me also....10% battery drained overnight...
what app is using most of ur battery?
sometimes push service in some free market apps drains a lot of battery and it keeps running even when app is closed... check running processes... well i uninstalled that app with push service and all became normal
Thanks for that but i've had a look through and it would seem that there isn't anything happening over night that i'm not expecting or that is being very hard on the battery.
I'm pretty confident the battery is the culprit here. Sourcing a new battery however is proving to be a problem. Somebody somewhere must be selling them.
I've just been on to HTC in the UK, they have a service centre not very far away from me and they won't sell me a battery or even give me a part no. for the battery.
Come on, somebody must know where to get one.
I think i might have found somewhere in China...
Battery - BG41200
3.7v - 4000mAh
If the prices were cheap enough how many of you would be interested in buying a battery for your Flyer.
Perhaps do a group buy?
i thought flyers battery is not user replaceable?
It's very replaceable and easy to do.
Here......
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-flyer/6256123
I'm going to have to look at getting a new battery sooner or later. It's getting to the point hat the battery is always running low by the time I get home in the evening or even running out. With pretty much the same use it used to be good for a day and a half easily. Flyer was purchase may or june 2011 so it really needs to last another 16 months or so.
Well......I ask again. If anyone knows of where to buy an internal Flyer battery please post a linky.
I posted this thread earlier today
"I just wanted to know what people are getting out of their batteries. I unplug mine around 7:30 am when i leave for work. When I get to work i turn on my wifi (rooted thunderbolt) and leave that on all day. I have the setting to turn wifi off (flyer) when screen is off. When I get home around 5:30 i switch to my home network and by 8-10 my battery is pretty much gone. Is this normal battery life or are there any tricks I'm not aware of that will help with battery. My wife has an Ipad 1 and she seems to get days of use out of it before she needs to charge it.
Also, I don't watch movies or video at work... most of my use is surfing, twitter and email."
I'm trying to figure out if what is normal battery life and If mine came with a bad battery. If so Yes I would be interested in getting a new one.
The Ipad battery has much longer life and is a much bigger capacity battery. The new HTC Jetstream also has a much bigger capacity battery as well. I think HTC have learned lessons on how much battery power these flyers use, but unfortunately have used Flyer owners as guinea pigs, rather like the first Apple iPhone but that had terrible battery issues as well although they've gotten better over time.
When my Flyer was brand new the battery lasted for ages and i couldn't understand what people were on about the battery not lasting for very long. So up until a few weeks ago my battery was doing fine and then almost within a day or two the battery started to run down quickly and has been doing so ever since. I've since loaded/unloaded new ROMS and done all the usual procedures for deleting the battery stats etc..., and still no joy.
I think the problem is with the battery not being man enough for the job at 4000mAh, and the drain is such that the battery is being worked hard since September last year (in my case) to a point where it is now progressively failing. I'm not so sure either that it's all that good in terms of quality.
Most of that time it has been charging from one source or another. If my Flyer isn't in the car or in the house it's not often being used battery only unlike most other people probably use the battery only a lot, so i can't understand why the battery is failing when it's not even that old.
This is a big issue with the Flyer and for what the device cost i would have expected a lot better. I think the Flyer in itself is a fantastic piece of kit that i will no doubt keep for a very long time as i did my XDA IIi but i never had problems buying another battery for my IIi. HTC will not sell me a battery, they insist i send the device to them and they will swap it but will cost about £50-£60 for the pleasure. I flatly refuse to pay that!!
What is required is a bigger capacity battery (6000-8000mAh) in the same packaging as the current battery however, i think for now i would happily settle for another of the same battery if i could just get hold of one.
So far it's proving an impossible task!!
Just to add: Once you've made sure there aren't apps being opened at startup that don't need to be opened until you're ready to use them, also make sure wifi/bluetooth, mobile data is all off when not required, and all the usual tweakes to make sure animations are off, screen is on the lowest brightness etc..., then there is not a lot more you can do. I don't know how much use something like Juice Defender will be as that only makes sure your data connections are off at night and other times you specify. I've tried it and it didn't help at all so i don't know what else to suggest apart from turning the radio part of the phone off completely at night if it isn't on charge.
If i leave my phone off charge all night, having fully charged first, i wake up in the morning and it's down to around 86-88% battery.
It has been allways said that when u get a new phone you must charge it for 12 hours in order to get optimal use of the device, how true is this.
A usual phone charge is for like 2 to 3 hours, i was told that when u first get a brand new phone you need to charge it for 12 hours for optimal performance. if u dont charge the phone for 12 hours later on the phone battery life will not be good moving forward, how tru is this.
For the record iam getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 5.3 ATT LTE, also i have another question.
Why is it that every android phone i ever had dies out so fast, but when it comes to a iPhone that phone can last for a long time, i really dont understand why it is like that, i have had many android phone HTC EVO 4G, G1, T-Mobile G2 and all these android phone die out really fast but the iPhone seems to last a very long time.
Why is that?
Dasin said:
It has been allways said that when u get a new phone you must charge it for 12 hours in order to get optimal use of the device, how true is this.
A usual phone charge is for like 2 to 3 hours, i was told that when u first get a brand new phone you need to charge it for 12 hours for optimal performance. if u dont charge the phone for 12 hours later on the phone battery life will not be good moving forward, how tru is this.
For the record iam getting a Samsung Galaxy Note 5.3 ATT LTE, also i have another question.
Why is it that every android phone i ever had dies out so fast, but when it comes to a iPhone that phone can last for a long time, i really dont understand why it is like that, i have had many android phone HTC EVO 4G, G1, T-Mobile G2 and all these android phone die out really fast but the iPhone seems to last a very long time.
Why is that?
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I always charge my battery on any phone for at least 6 hours because the software telling you its at 100 after 2 is wrong. The first charge is important because you are starting a cycle of charging and draining.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15631703
Read through this thread. It has a lot of good info. I hope i pasted the link correctly
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I'm sure glad we dont use Ni-Cad batteries any more....LOL
I've never had problems with my note dying fast. I charge my battery over night clear all my programs a few times a day and restart my phone once a day. I can go over 8 hours of heavy usage with no recharge. And I've been on iphone since the second generation iphone 4 was the worse battery on heavy usage but great on standby
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I always get a day and a half worth of use.
But seriously everyone do yourself a favor and turn off the battery percentage and just use the icon. Watching that percentage drop makes it feel like the battery goes faster. Ignorance is bliss.
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None answering the question the way it is asked, LOL, u know when u get a phone and the wireless providers allways tell you to charge the phone for a full 12 hours before use.
Dasin said:
None answering the question the way it is asked, LOL, u know when u get a phone and the wireless providers allways tell you to charge the phone for a full 12 hours before use.
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The second post answered it perfectly. The first charge on new software will not necessarily tell you accurately when it's fully charged, so you want to keep charging it after it says its full. 12 hours is probably overkill but it will definitely be fully charged, 6 hours probably will but maybe not.
So the answer is you should charge it as long a possible out of the box and after any factory reset or new rom to ensure the software doesn't cheat you out of some battery life later on.
And for the second part of your original question:
In my opinion, the Iphone is designed to run programs that are written to a very specific standard to use the hardware in a very specific way and to be used by the user in a very specific manner, and this it does very efficiently in both battery and performance. But it needs a user that is fine with being told exactly how to use the phone.
Android phones allow anyone to create programs to use the hardware in ways they weren't initially intended to be used as/for.
I think of it as a Turnpike and a regular highway. The Turnpike is much more efficient, safer and faster but you are very limited to where you can exit, what you can see along the way and it cost you more to get on it. It's good for what it is but I would rather enjoy the trip as long as I have to drive.
Ehh... I've never had it make any difference to me. Then again I use a CPU governor and custom UC/OC kernels ASAP.
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XDA is no longer worth my time.
This was a tough decision for me, but today I bit the bullet and got the Maxx hd. I am posting this in the DNA forum because that is the phone I wanted. I truly wanted that phone.
DNA pros, and why I wanted the phone:
Fastest, most efficient processor available.
Best screen available.
I like sense and the dialer it comes with.
Solid cell signal in weak areas (this fact eliminated Samsung for me, but neutral with Motorola)
Reviews say great build quality.
5 inch screen
I prefer the physical buttons rather than on screen
Great camera
$100 less
I like the stock music app
Why I didn't want the Maxx hd:
Old specs
I don't like pentile screens, my eyes notice the little dots
Terrible reviews on the camera
Not a fan of blur
Not updated to 4.1, doubt it will come before the year like they promise
Why I bought the maxx hd:
I travel a lot and am a heavy user, especially when traveling. I figured I would be cussing the battery way more than cussing the screen and camera.
I want an sd slot, or more than 11gb of free space.
I really like the notification light. I frequently work in a conference room with other people and hated the tbolt light, couldn't see it while sitting on my desk. DNA is in the grill too, tho I hear it is easier to see. The one on the back is a waste to me.
Those are my thoughts. Both great phones, tho I am truly bummed. If there was an sd slot and 2500 battery rather than 2020, I would have the DNA tomorrow. If I didn't travel like I do, I probably would have gotten the DNA because the wireless charging would negate the small battery.
I understand that some people need more battery life than the DNA gives, but when flying aren't you able to plug your phone in? (it's been ~10 years since I've flown) If you had to in between flights that would be horrible but I personally wouldn't care much during... well, maybe if I wanted to use the phone landscape since the plug is on the bottom. If you're traveling by car, you can plug it in pretty easily as well. Just my .02. You have a good 2 weeks to decide and there's a lot of cons for the Maxx HD for you.
flaring afro said:
I understand that some people need more battery life than the DNA gives, but when flying aren't you able to plug your phone in? (it's been ~10 years since I've flown) If you had to in between flights that would be horrible but I personally wouldn't care much during... well, maybe if I wanted to use the phone landscape since the plug is on the bottom. If you're traveling by car, you can plug it in pretty easily as well. Just my .02. You have a good 2 weeks to decide and there's a lot of cons for the Maxx HD for you.
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Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
2001400ex said:
Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
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I'm surprised every seat doesn't have an outlet by now. That's dumb. Guess I forget how lousy airlines are.
flaring afro said:
I'm surprised every seat doesn't have an outlet by now. That's dumb. Guess I forget how lousy airlines are.
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Some overseas flights do. When I went to Dubai earlier this year, I had a plug in, tho there was also a tv for every seat and no internet so no need to use the phone. Lol
2001400ex said:
Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
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Honestly how do you manage to go through a whole battery in a trip.
Assuming you for some reason you only travel with no other electronics except for a phone and refuse to plug it in during the trip, how can you possibly use more than this.
Get to the airport with 100% battery
Use it for maybe a half hour, so you may be at 85% now if you were playing some games for that time
Get on the plane and put it on airplane mode, you may be at 70% by the end of the flight if it was long and you were playing some more games
You have a layover so you eat some lunch, check up on some emails, surf the web for a bit and call your wife and chat for a bit, so your at 60% now
Next flight comes around, put it back in airplane mode, by the end of it your at 45 if you played some more games.
Now your at your destination, but your a half an hour from your hotel but your company loves you and pays for a driver, you play even more games, your now at 25% battery.
Now your at your hotel, you can plug your phone in and watch some TV and never got a battery warning.
2001400ex said:
Ya I fly every week, And I am often not by a charger. I could have bought a battery pack and thought about going that route. Like I said, for me, the battery was highest priority and once a week I would be cussing the DNA.
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why not spend $50 on a really good battery pack rather than an extra $100 for a bit more battery in the phone? I personally carry a small 5600 mAh external battery that cost me $35 as to render battery life a non-issue
2001400ex said:
I travel a lot and am a heavy user, especially when traveling. I figured I would be cussing the battery way more than cussing the screen and camera.
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I If I didn't travel like I do, I probably would have gotten the DNA because the wireless charging would negate the small battery.
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I never understood the travel argument. First all airports have charging ports. 2nd, if you travel that much...why are you using a phone at all? Get a Nexus 7 or dare I say an iPad. Way better battery life and experience for when you fly. No need to use your phone anyway.
However I'm glad you're happy with your choice. Moto is a complete non starter for me these days with Ft Knox bootloaders and I refuse to to be at their mercy for updates.
ML417 said:
why not spend $50 on a really good battery pack rather than an extra $100 for a bit more battery in the phone? I personally carry a small 5600 mAh external battery that cost me $35 as to render battery life a non-issue
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The Razr Maxx HD is only $200 on Amazon - $180 with a new plan. The price of the phone dropped substantially the day after its release. I'd also personally find the battery charger annoying to carry around and plug in and would rather buy a phone with the battery life I need.
Bigandrewgold said:
Honestly how do you manage to go through a whole battery in a trip.
Assuming you for some reason you only travel with no other electronics except for a phone and refuse to plug it in during the trip, how can you possibly use more than this.
Get to the airport with 100% battery
Use it for maybe a half hour, so you may be at 85% now if you were playing some games for that time
Get on the plane and put it on airplane mode, you may be at 70% by the end of the flight if it was long and you were playing some more games
You have a layover so you eat some lunch, check up on some emails, surf the web for a bit and call your wife and chat for a bit, so your at 60% now
Next flight comes around, put it back in airplane mode, by the end of it your at 45 if you played some more games.
Now your at your destination, but your a half an hour from your hotel but your company loves you and pays for a driver, you play even more games, your now at 25% battery.
Now your at your hotel, you can plug your phone in and watch some TV and never got a battery warning.
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Yeah, that is about how it goes, minus the showing up at 100%. My thunderbolt with the 2750 battery sometimes was on its last legs getting home Friday night starting at 90%. I usually have a 3 hour layover Friday nights.
flaring afro said:
The Razr Maxx HD is only $200 on Amazon - $180 with a new plan. The price of the phone dropped substantially the day after its release. I'd also personally find the battery charger annoying to carry around and plug in and would rather buy a phone with the battery life I need.
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Ya but I wanted to keep unlimited and you can't do that thru amazon using the second line trick.
2 other reasons I forgot to mention in my original post is foxfi works in the maxx and voice / data work on 3g. I am often in 3g only areas and talk on the phone while tethered.
My post as in no way bashing the battery life on the DNA. I read pretty much every review it there and the 25 page thread on the DNA on this site. My tbolt got me 4-6 hours of in screen time, I know the maxx is more like 5-7 hours on screen time and the DNA is closer to 3. I am impressed reading about what they have done to increase battery life, it looks like they accomplished a lot since the tbolt and rezound days. And if my wife were looking for a phone, that's the phone I would get her today. And I think the battery works for probably 95% of the users it there. If I have a friend looking for a phone, that's the one I'll recommend.
Just not for me.
I tend to rely on one of those ZaggSparq portable chargers to give the little more unmpf I need to finish the flight or day with my TBolt and expect the same with the DNA.
I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
I work construction and there's constant battles over there never being enough outlets, besides do you want your $600+ phone sitting there with 40-50 strangers walking past it? I went almost a year carrying a 5000mah battery pack for my RAZR and it's a royal PITA pulling that whole mess out of your pocket every time you get a call, message or just want to skip a song on Pandora. TuneIn radio can kill a 1700 battery by 1 pm.
You have no idea how liberating it is to not have to jump through hoops trying to do everything you can to save battery life. Turning on/off lte, gps, wifi, and airplane mode when it's needed, brightness to minimum, trying to plug in for a minute here and there to get that precious charge.
Anyone that tells others to jump through all those hoops obviously lives and works next to power outlets 24/7 or their life is so dull that they look forward to babysitting their settings like having another child.
A big freaking battery just works. No merry go round swapping of settings or constantly eyeing the battery meter. Put your settings where you want, leave lte on, then just unplug it when you get up then plug it in when you go to bed.
Do i wish i had the guts of the DNA? Of course. Would i give up the huge battery and 48gb of storage for it? Not even if it was free. I will never be chained to an outlet again.
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I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
I work construction and there's constant battles over there never being enough outlets, besides do you want your $600+ phone sitting there with 40-50 strangers walking past it? I went almost a year carrying a 5000mah battery pack for my RAZR and it's a royal PITA pulling that whole mess out of your pocket every time you get a call, message or just want to skip a song on Pandora. TuneIn radio can kill a 1700 battery by 1 pm.
You have no idea how liberating it is to not have to jump through hoops trying to do everything you can to save battery life. Turning on/off lte, gps, wifi, and airplane mode when it's needed, brightness to minimum, trying to plug in for a minute here and there to get that precious charge.
Anyone that tells others to jump through all those hoops obviously lives and works next to power outlets 24/7 or their life is so dull that they look forward to babysitting their settings like having another child.
A big freaking battery just works. No merry go round swapping of settings or constantly eyeing the battery meter. Put your settings where you want, leave lte on, then just unplug it when you get up then plug it in when you go to bed.
Do i wish i had the guts of the DNA? Of course. Would i give up the huge battery and 48gb of storage for it? Not even if it was free. I will never be chained to an outlet again.
Sent from my Droid RAZR HD MAXX using the XDA Developer App
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I again agree with all this. I have a rezound and don't babysit my settings unless I'm outdoors and knowing I'm not going to be using it, I'll swap it to 3g only. I use the extended battery and have 7 of them in the house between the wife and I to use (thunderbolt for her, uses same extended). I don't need the battery life, but it is nice to have.
No phone is perfect right now (not even the iphone and its small screen). All of them comprimise something. If there was a perfect phone, it would be a no brainer on what to get, but everyone will have to choose what is best for them. For me, I think I'm going to try a note 2 first, see if the reception issues are a problem for me (live in a big city so hoping not). If it doesn't work for me, then the DNA will be plan B. I survived with the HD7 which was worse for battery life and still only 16gb so I know I can do it.
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I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
I work construction and there's constant battles over there never being enough outlets, besides do you want your $600+ phone sitting there with 40-50 strangers walking past it? I went almost a year carrying a 5000mah battery pack for my RAZR and it's a royal PITA pulling that whole mess out of your pocket every time you get a call, message or just want to skip a song on Pandora. TuneIn radio can kill a 1700 battery by 1 pm.
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While your point is valid, it's also a special use case. Everyone is different and you can't expect everyone to have your lifestyle. I'm not defending OEM choices, but the vast majority of people don't have that kind of situation and you can't expect them to invest extra money into things the majority of people don't need. The beauty of Android is choice. If you found a phone that suits your needs, great. I'm not sure why you feel the need to come here and hate on people giving options to help make their lives easier in different situations. I have spent a great deal of time in my career working in stats and analytics, and some of the most rewarding pieces are showing people who so staunchly "can't believe" this or that exactly how big and different the world is outside their backyard.
I would by a battery pack and wifi drive before I get the Maxx HD. The screen and the S4 Pro processor is reason enough.
zepfloyd said:
I never understood the travel argument. First all airports have charging ports. .
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Are you a member of the Admiral's club or something? I travel a lot and there is a fight to get to an open outlet - often you'll find one on the floor by the window where no seats are. I've been to a couple of airports that have some outlets but for the most part there is about 1 outlet per 100 passengers.
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Are you a member of the Admiral's club or something? I travel a lot and there is a fight to get to an open outlet - often you'll find one on the floor by the window where no seats are. I've been to a couple of airports that have some outlets but for the most part there is about 1 outlet per 100 passengers.
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Most airports I've been to have those Samsung branded charging stations everywhere. LOL for Admirals club...
Zodwraith said:
I find it interesting when there's a battery life discussion there's always someone saying "all you need to do is A, B, and C and you should get through your day".
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Well said. For many of us, we just want a phone that works reliably for a 24 hour period with normal use. We don't have to buy a thicker battery for it, buy a spare battery for it, buy a car battery and strap it under our shoulder, walk within the radius of an extension cord or only turn our phone on when we have to actually use it or scheduled an incoming call.
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Most airports I've been to have those Samsung branded charging stations everywhere. LOL for Admirals club...
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And how many people at JFK, LaGuardia, OHD, ATL, LAX, DFW etc do you see fighting for access? Do you see one at every gate?
2001400ex said:
Yeah, that is about how it goes, minus the showing up at 100%. My thunderbolt with the 2750 battery sometimes was on its last legs getting home Friday night starting at 90%. I usually have a 3 hour layover Friday nights.
Ya but I wanted to keep unlimited and you can't do that thru amazon using the second line trick.
2 other reasons I forgot to mention in my original post is foxfi works in the maxx and voice / data work on 3g. I am often in 3g only areas and talk on the phone while tethered.
My post as in no way bashing the battery life on the DNA. I read pretty much every review it there and the 25 page thread on the DNA on this site. My tbolt got me 4-6 hours of in screen time, I know the maxx is more like 5-7 hours on screen time and the DNA is closer to 3. I am impressed reading about what they have done to increase battery life, it looks like they accomplished a lot since the tbolt and rezound days. And if my wife were looking for a phone, that's the phone I would get her today. And I think the battery works for probably 95% of the users it there. If I have a friend looking for a phone, that's the one I'll recommend.
Just not for me.
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Many sources have cited that the DNA gets about 4.5 hours of screen on time. Not 3.
Also, how the hell did you get 4-6 hours of screen on time with the Thunderbolt? That has the worst battery/power management I've had of any phone.
trebb said:
Many sources have cited that the DNA gets about 4.5 hours of screen on time. Not 3.
Also, how the hell did you get 4-6 hours of screen on time with the Thunderbolt? That has the worst battery/power management I've had of any phone.
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I had the extended battery that was 2750. After the updates, it got much better battery life and has a good radio.
And from what I understand is the 4.5 hours was unplugging it and 4.5 hours straight. That doesn't translate to unplugging at 6:30 am, screen on for 4.5 hours, then be at 10% at 10:00 at night.
My first day today with the Maxx, I unplugged at 3:00 am, talked on the phone for an hour, and had 5.5 hours on screen time by 9:00 pm when I plugged it in. I was on it playing with settings a lot and reading while I was fixing a computer with its 20 reboots. I am guessing the DNA would have been dead at 3:00 pm. Lol